Did your father beat you because he loved you? Do you love him for it?

The God of the bible demanded child sacrifice.

But, was that a new thing or was it common?

Hehe you all know it was common, so, Abraham was obying the norms of the day.

Hmm, how does Jesus work, as a Father? They made him a boy sacrifice in Roman light when he left the world scene, so, we don't get to see him as a man, just a dead little boy.

But I don't think he died, I don't need his sacrifice. I do not need any man to die for me. For me, Jesus was a father, and that's just the true scandal of history.

You're just trying to demonize fathers. You just might be a shill.

(waves hand)

This is not the thread you're looking for...move along.

What does it matter if it was "common" or not?

It goes on today. It is common. Is that ok?

The God of the bible demanded child sacrifice.

But, was that a new thing or was it common?

Hehe you all know it was common, so, Abraham was obying the norms of the day.

Hmm, how does Jesus work, as a Father? They made him a boy sacrifice in Roman light when he left the world scene, so, we don't get to see him as a man, just a dead little boy.

But I don't think he died, I don't need his sacrifice. I do not need any man to die for me. For me, Jesus was a father, and that's just the true scandal of history.

I edited my post OP. You should give it a read and consider the ramifications it presents toward your line of question. Thanks.

I want you to consider how sick that is and to please read the thread below. I am not trying to make you believe anything. Just to get you think in a different way.

People are told that "god" loves us when he tortures us and causes us to suffer.

These are just Stockholm Syndrome victims. They love their own abusers!

You know that is wrong.

Thread: The whole idea that we have to be tortured and suffer to grow into enlightened beings is insane.

No of course it's not okay, I am just asking if it was new for YHWH to need that.

Did Abraham think "Wow, YHWH has never asked this of me before"

OP you are the one who calls himself clever, so be that.

I agree. Very few will understand it.

I don't read quotations from a book of fantasy.

Think for yourself.

No, I never called myself clever. Ever.

No HE didn't. The story of Abraham and Isaac was an exception, a painful test of Abe's faith.
Isaac was never touched, God stopped his hand and provided a ram for the sacrifice.
If you want to lie on someone, I can think of safer marks than God.

It would have been helpful had the title been truer to your intentions. Had it said something like

"god is a jerk", "gob blah blah", "i hate god" etc. then you probably would have had more useful replies as to your intention.

Instead you pulled the old bait and switch which no one really cares for and unfortunately it undermines you because it communicates that you are disingenuous at best, dishonest at worst, and/or you admit your idea can't stand on its own merits without using deceit to try to communicate your idea.

Suddenly I have a hankering for an apple...

Bye! Enjoy your quest and may God bless you!

OMG! You babies cry about everything!

Geez, hell I was whooped by my principal.

Then he called Dad and I got whooped again when he got home!

I've been whooped on bare ass and had to count the licks out loud. If I missed one, we started over!

I've been whooped with a switch that I had to pull off the bush!

I've been whooped with a fence picket, a weight lighting belt, and a wooded triangular drafting ruler on both the palms of my hand and the soles of my feet!

Most of you punks don't understand the the word whooping let alone have experienced it!

And don't even get me going on how many times I was slapped!

Yup, bunch of damn cry baby pussies these days.

And of course I still love my dad, he is my dad you know.

:smack10:

It caught you.

The ways of God are, well, not for us to question! If suffering is my ticket to heaven than I say bring it on!

He did, but I don't know why. He may have thought it was out of love.

No, I hated him for it. Now that he's dead I don't worry about it.

Read the fucking thread.

In that case, I deserve anything He does to me or for me, because He is never wrong.

What? You think every reply is meant for you?

Fucking moran!

It physically pains me to think that there are people like you who think this way. God gave you a brain, the real God, not the beast of the Bible that you worship. You should use it. Question everything.

If it feels wrong, IT IS wrong.

Well yeah. It is my thread...

the damn crazy schoolteachers were the ones who beat us

My dad only beat me worse than I got beat at school one time. When he found out that I had buried about half his guns so that we would have them in the end times.....
I was about 10, he was pissed.

My dad got carried away once or twice but he never beat the shit out of me or anything. I think I am better off for it.

Only thing I would change is that I wish he had spent more time with us.


I feel I am a better person because I got my ass beat a few times. It teaches respect and builds character.

I think that's allot of what's wrong in this world. Children who never got a proper ass whoopin.