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Be proud, humanity: West Antarctic glacier loss: 'We have passed the point of no return'

 
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We seem to have done it. And yet, we were warned many years ago. Tokyo, Copenhagen... all to no avail. Much lip service, hypocrisy, and some outright denial and refusal of cooperation... and here we are.

As I already noted in another thread recently, a sea level rise of only 1 m would make the sea advance inland in Belgium to the city of Bruges (which according to historians effectivaly was the situation as recently as the Middle Ages). Picture the same for the eastern US seaboard, Gulf of Mexico included.

"Two studies released Monday signal that five glaciers in West Antarctica are undergoing irreversible decline over the next several hundred years, signaling sea level-rise of nearly four feet.

By Pete Spotts, Staff writer / May 12, 2014

The Thwaites Glacier in Antarctica is seen in this undated NASA image. Vast glaciers in West Antarctica seem to be locked in an irreversible thaw linked to global warming that may push up sea levels for centuries, scientists said on May 12, 2014.

Five glaciers that feed continental ice from Antarctica into the Pacific sector of the Southern Ocean – glaciers long seen as the soft underbelly of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet – are undergoing irreversible decline, two new studies indicate.

The glaciers flowing into these waters, Antarctica's Amundsen Sea, carry enough ice to raise sea levels by 1.2 meters (3.9 feet), with effects that cascade to other sections of the ice sheet."

And as if this wasn't enough, more at

[link to www.csmonitor.com]
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It is called calving when there is so much ice growth that it creates massive icebergs that fall off into the ocean.
[link to iceagenow.info]
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Re: Be proud, humanity: West Antarctic glacier loss: 'We have passed the point of no return'
Climate change is natural not man made.
If it was man made the Ice Age and the subsequent heat following the Ice age would have never happened.
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As long as NYC gets buried, it sounds good. But the ice age is coming, so I am not too worried about Al Gore's fairy tales.
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It is called calving when there is so much ice growth that it creates massive icebergs that fall off into the ocean.
[link to iceagenow.info]
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It is called calving when there is so much ice growth that it creates massive icebergs that fall off into the ocean.
[link to iceagenow.info]
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The link is Antarctic sea ice 50% above previous record.
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Arctic ice hitting records....

In the Southern Hemisphere, autumn is well underway, and sea ice extent is growing rapidly. Antarctic sea ice extent for April 2014 reached 9.00 million square kilometers (3.47 million square miles), the largest ice extent on record by a significant margin. This exceeds the past record for the satellite era by about 320,000 square kilometers (124,000 square miles), which was set in April 2008.

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Blah blah blah, more enviro-communist Al Gore claptrap.

Like everything else the climate is cyclical, it has been here before and will be again...

But that would give the communist bastards the excuse they seek to oppress us even further.
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lame
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Re: Be proud, humanity: West Antarctic glacier loss: 'We have passed the point of no return'
It's true !!! It's true !!!
Some big scientist from Cali forn ia says so! buayaa!
I will only take 900 years!
You just don't want to save the Earth, do you?
Tinfoil hat wearing climate change deniers!!!
Conspiracy theorist!
see! see!

Estimates of the timing involved for the retreat of one of the two largest glaciers, the Thwaites Glacier, range from 200 to 900 years, according to another study, set to be published Friday in the journal Science. Through the rest of this century, the study anticipates relatively modest additions to sea level from Thwaites, after which the glacier's retreat accelerates.

Regardless of the time span, however, the loss of the glaciers is virtually unstoppable, the researchers say.
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Re: Be proud, humanity: West Antarctic glacier loss: 'We have passed the point of no return'
Regardless of the time span, however, the loss of the glaciers is virtually unstoppable, the researchers say.


Not if we are going into a minor or major ice age, which we are in the process of doing. I farm and therefore pay close attention to the daily heat patterns, it is getting colder not warmer which is bad for those of us that grow food.
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Puleeeze. What a lot of horse puckie. The only way it would happen is if they were using a giant hair dryer on it.
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Re: Be proud, humanity: West Antarctic glacier loss: 'We have passed the point of no return'
You do know that the Antarctic is a DESERT, right?

If a short period of warmer weather comes along and causes the glaciers to melt some, it takes a HELL of a lot longer period for them to grow back than for them to melt. Try hundreds to thousands of years to grow back.

Here's one for ya. If you or any of the screwed up glaciologists or climatologists can show irrefutable
data every 100 years for the amount of glacier ice in Antarctica going back 50,000 years, then you and they would have a valid argument.

But guess what? They aren't even sure of what caused the younger drias period. Or What caused the previous ice ages. Or sure of what caused the Medieval Climate Optimum.

Even faced with the massive amount of uncertainties and miniscule data in their own view of historical causes and effects of past climate change, the politicians, government grant dependent scientists and scientific organizations, and a bunch of nitwits that would not know the difference between a cumulus cloud and their brain, jump up and down that this is absolutely settled, and the science and history is absolute and should not be questioned. This type of shit makes my stomach crawl.

Enough of this running around like stupid chicken little and screaming the "The Sky is Falling!"

Even the scientists have too little information to be sure.

They all see a change and want to cash in on it fast and to hell with reality. What a bunch of greedy scum.

Last Edited by Housedad on 05/13/2014 03:03 AM
There's always an Arquillian Battle Cruiser, or a Corillian Death Ray, or an intergalactic plague that is about to wipe out all life on this miserable little planet, and the only way these people can get on with their happy lives is that they DO NOT KNOW ABOUT IT!

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Re: Be proud, humanity: West Antarctic glacier loss: 'We have passed the point of no return'
firstly, the changing climate is a natural event.. otherwise how to explain the Roman Warm period which saw a number of locations being swallowed by the sea/lost to water at the end of the period.

The Scilly Isles off the coast of Britain where created when the island was inundated by the sea around 300-400AD

The Dian Kingdom (China) was lost to water in around 300AD

Llys Helig (Wales)vanished around 300-400AD

the city of Pheia (Greece) was submerged by earthquake around 300AD

Hannibal crossed the Alps because it was during a warm period..

We can find many correlations between major events and the end of warm periods, and blaming man seems silly..

for example the type of period we are in now saw very similar storms lash Europe in the 1200s, although with modern technology/defences the damage has been minimal..

But these are ultimatly natural events..

What is sad is that the steps being taken do nothing to change the balance, those who bang on about climate change and what must be done tend to never look at what they are actually doing, it all sounds good, nice self congratulatory pats on the back which do nothing.

Take the Waste Electrical, while we might not be burying the products to contaminate the earth we are instead using the plastic as a fuel source to reclaim the rare earths in a bid to combat Chinas growing supremacy in rare earths.. the outcome of which is that instead of saving the planet by not burying crap that crap is being pumped into the atmosphere instead...

Which just leaves me thinking the greenies believe in simply sweeping things under a rug so they can say what a good job they have done when the reality they have done nothing but partake in a corporate money raising scheme that does not change anything.
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Re: Be proud, humanity: West Antarctic glacier loss: 'We have passed the point of no return'
Climate change deniers are like lemmings running together right off the fucking cliff. I'm not sure if it's terminal stupidity or just self-serving assholes who fear thier lifestyle is gonna take a hit.
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Re: Be proud, humanity: West Antarctic glacier loss: 'We have passed the point of no return'
Climate change deniers are like lemmings running together right off the fucking cliff. I'm not sure if it's terminal stupidity or just self-serving assholes who fear thier lifestyle is gonna take a hit.
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There is no proof climate change is caused by humans.
Climate change has been happening for millions of years without human interaction you sir are a sheep.

sheeplebah

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Re: Be proud, humanity: West Antarctic glacier loss: 'We have passed the point of no return'
It is called calving when there is so much ice growth that it creates massive icebergs that fall off into the ocean.
[link to iceagenow.info]
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OK, thank you for letting us know it is called calving.
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Climate change deniers are like lemmings running together right off the fucking cliff. I'm not sure if it's terminal stupidity or just self-serving assholes who fear thier lifestyle is gonna take a hit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57982104


There is no proof climate change is caused by humans.
Climate change has been happening for millions of years without human interaction you sir are a sheep.

sheeplebah
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Said the lemming.
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Climate change deniers are like lemmings running together right off the fucking cliff. I'm not sure if it's terminal stupidity or just self-serving assholes who fear thier lifestyle is gonna take a hit.
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If all of the climate believers are smart, and the deniers are stupid, then please explain this:

[link to www.spiegel.de]

Yeah, all lemmings because that is all you have to throw at us. Out of ammo already? Shame.

Last Edited by Housedad on 05/13/2014 03:40 AM
There's always an Arquillian Battle Cruiser, or a Corillian Death Ray, or an intergalactic plague that is about to wipe out all life on this miserable little planet, and the only way these people can get on with their happy lives is that they DO NOT KNOW ABOUT IT!

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Climate change deniers are like lemmings running together right off the fucking cliff. I'm not sure if it's terminal stupidity or just self-serving assholes who fear thier lifestyle is gonna take a hit.
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And how are you helping? recycle your waste electrics? yeay, don't bury that crap burn it instead in a furnace and pump that shit in the atmosphere.. yeay sounds like a brilliant idea, so green, so healthy, that'll help stop a natural climate change... plank.
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Re: Be proud, humanity: West Antarctic glacier loss: 'We have passed the point of no return'
Climate change deniers are like lemmings running together right off the fucking cliff. I'm not sure if it's terminal stupidity or just self-serving assholes who fear thier lifestyle is gonna take a hit.
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There is no proof climate change is caused by humans.
Climate change has been happening for millions of years without human interaction you sir are a sheep.

sheeplebah
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Said the lemming.
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Re: Be proud, humanity: West Antarctic glacier loss: 'We have passed the point of no return'
Climate change deniers are like lemmings running together right off the fucking cliff. I'm not sure if it's terminal stupidity or just self-serving assholes who fear thier lifestyle is gonna take a hit.
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There is no proof climate change is caused by humans.
Climate change has been happening for millions of years without human interaction you sir are a sheep.

sheeplebah
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^^^ THIS ^^^
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Re: Be proud, humanity: West Antarctic glacier loss: 'We have passed the point of no return'
Climate change deniers are like lemmings running together right off the fucking cliff. I'm not sure if it's terminal stupidity or just self-serving assholes who fear thier lifestyle is gonna take a hit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57982104


There is no proof climate change is caused by humans.
Climate change has been happening for millions of years without human interaction you sir are a sheep.

sheeplebah
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Said the lemming.
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Say Hi to your Buddy Al for me, if you can ever find the damn hypocrite not in his jet or burning up the entire electrical supply of a 3rd word nation in his mansion.

a-holes.
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How can mankind stop climate change?

Since the last inter glacial maximum 20,000 years ago, the oceans have risen hundreds of feet.
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Re: Be proud, humanity: West Antarctic glacier loss: 'We have passed the point of no return'
Climate change deniers are like lemmings running together right off the fucking cliff. I'm not sure if it's terminal stupidity or just self-serving assholes who fear thier lifestyle is gonna take a hit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57982104


There is no proof climate change is caused by humans.
Climate change has been happening for millions of years without human interaction you sir are a sheep.

sheeplebah
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Said the lemming.
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Say Hi to your Buddy Al for me, if you can ever find the damn hypocrite not in his jet or burning up the entire electrical supply of a 3rd word nation in his mansion.

a-holes.
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You sound like a man with a paper asshole. Quit listening to rush and hannity and try to educate yourself.
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Re: Be proud, humanity: West Antarctic glacier loss: 'We have passed the point of no return'
Climate change is natural not man made.
If it was man made the Ice Age and the subsequent heat following the Ice age would have never happened.
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Whether it's natural or man-made, makes no difference to the land that'll be sunk!
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Re: Be proud, humanity: West Antarctic glacier loss: 'We have passed the point of no return'
Climate change is natural not man made.
If it was man made the Ice Age and the subsequent heat following the Ice age would have never happened.
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Whether it's natural or man-made, makes no difference to the land that'll be sunk!
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If it's natural there is nothing that can be done.
I am not going to worry about something we can't stop.
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Re: Be proud, humanity: West Antarctic glacier loss: 'We have passed the point of no return'
Some of us remember the 1970's when global cooling was the fear.

1977 Time Magazine Cover, how to survive the coming ice age.

[link to www.abacusnews.com]

Actually, if you look at the the full history of satellite images of about 40 years (not the edited politically correct version), it shows the ice-caps shrinking, growing much larger, then shrinking again.
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Re: Be proud, humanity: West Antarctic glacier loss: 'We have passed the point of no return'
BTW; it was Enron that came up with the whole idea of trading carbon credits. Might want to watch the movie "The Smartest Guys in the Room" and take a look at how easily people are scammed on a large scale - what Enron did as a body corporate to California, etc. You will be surprised. Also recommend this movie. Will open your eyes to how media really works.

[link to www.youtube.com]
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We seem to have done it. And yet, we were warned many years ago. Tokyo, Copenhagen... all to no avail. Much lip service, hypocrisy, and some outright denial and refusal of cooperation... and here we are.

As I already noted in another thread recently, a sea level rise of only 1 m would make the sea advance inland in Belgium to the city of Bruges (which according to historians effectivaly was the situation as recently as the Middle Ages). Picture the same for the eastern US seaboard, Gulf of Mexico included.

"Two studies released Monday signal that five glaciers in West Antarctica are undergoing irreversible decline over the next several hundred years, signaling sea level-rise of nearly four feet.

By Pete Spotts, Staff writer / May 12, 2014

The Thwaites Glacier in Antarctica is seen in this undated NASA image. Vast glaciers in West Antarctica seem to be locked in an irreversible thaw linked to global warming that may push up sea levels for centuries, scientists said on May 12, 2014.

Five glaciers that feed continental ice from Antarctica into the Pacific sector of the Southern Ocean – glaciers long seen as the soft underbelly of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet – are undergoing irreversible decline, two new studies indicate.

The glaciers flowing into these waters, Antarctica's Amundsen Sea, carry enough ice to raise sea levels by 1.2 meters (3.9 feet), with effects that cascade to other sections of the ice sheet."

And as if this wasn't enough, more at

[link to www.csmonitor.com]
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So? You know there are many ancient man made structures under the oceans already. This so called melt has been going on for thousands of years. Were their SUVs and factories responsible for that thousands of years ago? This planet is constantly changing temperature, up, down, up, down and these cycles take thousands of years. Population explosion during these warm ups, then declines during the ice ages. We just happen to be nearing the end of a so called warm up and this likely still has hundreds of years to go. People move or adapt to the changes. Thats the way it is. Stop thinking insignificant man can stop the power of Mother Nature. A damn carbon tax sure isn't going to help. In fact, it would harm the ability of people to "adapt".
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Re: Be proud, humanity: West Antarctic glacier loss: 'We have passed the point of no return'
What can I as an individual do to stop the Antarctic slide?





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