Obama birth certificate - easy proof of forgery | |
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(OP) User ID: 32691470 United States 05/17/2014 06:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What, you mean the futile discussion of irrelevant mainstream media endorsed topics? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58181413 While this whole discussion is ultimately futile I still think it's important to at least KNOW these things. I also think it's important to have something online that people can at least verify themselves and not just be like "I saw it on the internets!". Having hard evidence you can point to is powerful in a discussion with people who don't follow this stuff or just assume every conspiracy theory is something some guy pulled out of his ass from his basement bunker which many are. The popular radio talk show host Michael Savage actually calls Obama an "impostor". Last Edited by TexasPaleo on 05/17/2014 06:52 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58098837 United States 05/17/2014 06:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58098837 I'm not complaining. I enjoy this thread and look forward to what the OP has to say(my bad, type. I'm sorry if I confused you) I'm just saying that I wouldn't go to a bar I hated and pout and criticize knowing full well it's my on doing that brought me here. you're the one doing the pouting bud. this is a debate. if you can't defend your beliefs or let them stand up to criticism and scrutiny, maybe you need to reexamine them. What's being debated? the validity of this whole "movement" And what are my beliefs on this so-called "movement"? |
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User ID: 6730370 United States 05/17/2014 06:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ignore the thread if you don't like it. It could easily have been skipped over. Obama is illegally president and whether or not the US does something doesn't matter. It provides more evidence that the government is fixed and strings are being pulled allowing more people to open up to a new way of understanding the world. Complain on another thread, bumping this thread doesn't help you out at all. I never said that I didn't like it. I often enjoy reading B.S. I didn't say you didn't like it. I said if. And I'm telling you that I enjoyed reading it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58098837 United States 05/17/2014 06:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58098837 Ignore the thread if you don't like it. It could easily have been skipped over. Obama is illegally president and whether or not the US does something doesn't matter. It provides more evidence that the government is fixed and strings are being pulled allowing more people to open up to a new way of understanding the world. Complain on another thread, bumping this thread doesn't help you out at all. I never said that I didn't like it. I often enjoy reading B.S. I didn't say you didn't like it. I said if. And I'm telling you that I enjoyed reading it. I'm glad |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58181480 France 05/17/2014 06:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58181480 you're the one doing the pouting bud. this is a debate. if you can't defend your beliefs or let them stand up to criticism and scrutiny, maybe you need to reexamine them. What's being debated? the validity of this whole "movement" And what are my beliefs on this so-called "movement"? kinda hard to tell since you just keep getting angry but I would assume you think there's a point to this birth certificate nonsense |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28285524 United States 05/17/2014 06:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | give it up. even if it is fake, what fucking difference does it make? are you not fucked, regardless? is the president not just the figurehead of corporations? there is no real left or right in American politics, that is only bread and circus for us plebs. at the end of the day, all politicians are of the same class, go to the same country clubs and get bankrolled by the same pieces of shit. obsessing over irrelevant minutiae is exactly what they want us to be doing and this whole stupid birther movement is just another means of distraction. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58181480 maybe to you, truth does not matter. hehehehe truth matters. this shit doesn't. Maybe if all you "feel good" kneejerk liberal Obama supporters would stop reflexively bashing people("RACIST!") who have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt something "funky" is going here. We could get a court to uphold the law and sort this country out again.But you insist on enabling their fundamental change to our 200+ year old constitutional republic. Useful idiots who foment revolution only live as long as they are needed by the state. Then you become excess mouths to redistribute to. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58181480 France 05/17/2014 06:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | give it up. even if it is fake, what fucking difference does it make? are you not fucked, regardless? is the president not just the figurehead of corporations? there is no real left or right in American politics, that is only bread and circus for us plebs. at the end of the day, all politicians are of the same class, go to the same country clubs and get bankrolled by the same pieces of shit. obsessing over irrelevant minutiae is exactly what they want us to be doing and this whole stupid birther movement is just another means of distraction. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58181480 maybe to you, truth does not matter. hehehehe truth matters. this shit doesn't. Maybe if all you "feel good" kneejerk liberal Obama supporters would stop reflexively bashing people("RACIST!") who have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt something "funky" is going here. We could get a court to uphold the law and sort this country out again.But you insist on enabling their fundamental change to our 200+ year old constitutional republic. Useful idiots who foment revolution only live as long as they are needed by the state. Then you become excess mouths to redistribute to. amazed that you know so much about who I support and what side of the political spectrum my beliefs lie. all of that because I think the OP was making a silly point? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58098837 United States 05/17/2014 06:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58098837 kinda hard to tell since you just keep getting angry but I would assume you think there's a point to this birth certificate nonsense When have I gotten angry? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58181413 United Kingdom 05/17/2014 06:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What, you mean the futile discussion of irrelevant mainstream media endorsed topics? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58181413 While this whole discussion is ultimately futile I still think it's important to at least KNOW these things. I also think it's important to have something online that people can at least verify themselves and not just be "I saw it on the internets!". OK so the birth cert is a forgery, its undeniable and there are multiple reasons other than there being a copy and pasted B in there. But the point of the matter is this It doesn't matter its a forgery because A) the president can do it for national security reasons. B) the potus does not need to be born on the land of america to qualified. there is however a qualication for the potus to be natural born citizen , you know the opposite to a artificial dead corporation, as in flesh and blood and has become an employee of u.s.a. inc. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58181480 France 05/17/2014 06:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | kinda hard to tell since you just keep getting angry but I would assume you think there's a point to this birth certificate nonsense When have I gotten angry? when you got all pissy at me and the Brit for chiming in |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58181413 United Kingdom 05/17/2014 06:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What, you mean the futile discussion of irrelevant mainstream media endorsed topics? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58181413 While this whole discussion is ultimately futile I still think it's important to at least KNOW these things. I also think it's important to have something online that people can at least verify themselves and not just be "I saw it on the internets!". OK so the birth cert is a forgery, its undeniable and there are multiple reasons other than there being a copy and pasted B in there. But the point of the matter is this It doesn't matter its a forgery because A) the president can do it for national security reasons. B) the potus does not need to be born on the land of america to qualified. there is however a qualication for the potus to be natural born citizen , you know the opposite to a artificial dead corporation, as in flesh and blood and has become an employee of u.s.a. inc. but i know yet again this will go right over most peoples heads. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58181413 United Kingdom 05/17/2014 06:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | kinda hard to tell since you just keep getting angry but I would assume you think there's a point to this birth certificate nonsense When have I gotten angry? when you got all pissy at me and the Brit for chiming in i have enjoyed their trolling attempts.. not too taxing. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58181480 France 05/17/2014 06:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58181480 kinda hard to tell since you just keep getting angry but I would assume you think there's a point to this birth certificate nonsense When have I gotten angry? when you got all pissy at me and the Brit for chiming in i have enjoyed their trolling attempts.. not too taxing. confirmation we're doing something right :) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58098837 United States 05/17/2014 06:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | kinda hard to tell since you just keep getting angry but I would assume you think there's a point to this birth certificate nonsense When have I gotten angry? when you got all pissy at me and the Brit for chiming in I wasn't angry and I apologize if that's the impression you got. You guys give bad criticism. Prove the OP wrong, don't reduce it down to childish insults. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58098837 United States 05/17/2014 06:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58181480 kinda hard to tell since you just keep getting angry but I would assume you think there's a point to this birth certificate nonsense When have I gotten angry? when you got all pissy at me and the Brit for chiming in i have enjoyed their trolling attempts.. not too taxing. Haha, you guys have a viewed perception of what "trolling" is. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 56228116 United States 05/17/2014 06:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've made a living creating digital work since the time Adobe Illustrator was in beta testing. When the story about his birth certificate finally being released broke, I went through it forensically too. There is no doubt it is manufactured. Great job O.P. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58068865 United States 05/17/2014 06:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | DI offers a metaphor as to why people just WILL NOT believe certain things and he's right: "I feel like the cow who runs into the field screaming: Hey, you know that truck that takes some of our friends away every month? Well they don't take them to another field like we thought. They shoot them in the head, bleed them dry, cut them up, and put the pieces into packets. Then those humans buy them and eat them! Imagine what the reaction of the rest of the herd would be: You're crazy man. They'd never do that. Shut up, you're making waves." People are SO WORRIED about what OTHER PEOPLE will think of their views that they sit quietly and try to herd the others into silence with them... as to not rock the boat. OP has given us yet ANOTHER example of the false identity of Barry (something we already knew but awesome detective work by the OP no less ) and people are still like.... 'nope. just a bunch of conspiracy theorists trying to make stuff up'. Eventually, at some point, people wont be able to deny it and I CANT WAIT FOR THAT FUCKING DAY!!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58181413 United Kingdom 05/17/2014 06:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i have enjoyed their trolling attempts.. not too taxing. Haha, you guys have a viewed perception of what "trolling" is. maybe i was sent to troll you ? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58181480 France 05/17/2014 06:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58181480 kinda hard to tell since you just keep getting angry but I would assume you think there's a point to this birth certificate nonsense When have I gotten angry? when you got all pissy at me and the Brit for chiming in I wasn't angry and I apologize if that's the impression you got. You guys give bad criticism. Prove the OP wrong, don't reduce it down to childish insults. I don't need to disprove him. My point is that the discussion isn't worth having and is ultimately harmful and a distraction from actual issues. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58098837 United States 05/17/2014 06:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | DI offers a metaphor as to why people just WILL NOT believe certain things and he's right: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58068865 "I feel like the cow who runs into the field screaming: Hey, you know that truck that takes some of our friends away every month? Well they don't take them to another field like we thought. They shoot them in the head, bleed them dry, cut them up, and put the pieces into packets. Then those humans buy them and eat them! Imagine what the reaction of the rest of the herd would be: You're crazy man. They'd never do that. Shut up, you're making waves." People are SO WORRIED about what OTHER PEOPLE will think of their views that they sit quietly and try to herd the others into silence with them... as to not rock the boat. OP has given us yet ANOTHER example of the false identity of Barry (something we already knew but awesome detective work by the OP no less ) and people are still like.... 'nope. just a bunch of conspiracy theorists trying to make stuff up'. Eventually, at some point, people wont be able to deny it and I CANT WAIT FOR THAT FUCKING DAY!!! It's already undeniable. The sheep are just worried about what's on tv rat her than taking a couple of minutes to see that their "leader" is illegitimate. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58098837 United States 05/17/2014 07:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Haha, you guys have a viewed perception of what "trolling" is. maybe i was sent to troll you ? I sure do hope so, mister. I wasn't angry and I apologize if that's the impression you got. You guys give bad criticism. Prove the OP wrong, don't reduce it down to childish insults. I don't need to disprove him. My point is that the discussion isn't worth having and is ultimately harmful and a distraction from actual issues. Then don't have the discussion. I find the discussion of an illegitimate president is actually very important. |
RightNut User ID: 58158483 United States 05/17/2014 07:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BULLSHIT!!! The Birth Cert is LEGITIMATELY A FRAUD. You guys are paranoid delusional conspiracy theorists. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57222486 Fixed that for you AC. Now everything you said is truth. :truestory: Well done Monkey and OP. I liked what the OP said and believe it. Even so....it is just the tip of the ice burg. Alls ya gotta do...is look. Thank You OP! Regards |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58181480 France 05/17/2014 07:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | maybe i was sent to troll you ? I sure do hope so, mister. I wasn't angry and I apologize if that's the impression you got. You guys give bad criticism. Prove the OP wrong, don't reduce it down to childish insults. I don't need to disprove him. My point is that the discussion isn't worth having and is ultimately harmful and a distraction from actual issues. Then don't have the discussion. I find the discussion of an illegitimate president is actually very important. I shall leave you to it. Though I'm going to go out on a limb and assume that you had no issues with the legitimacy of the previous president, regardless of the fact that he wasn't actually elected. Enjoy! |
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(OP) User ID: 32691470 United States 05/17/2014 07:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've made a living creating digital work since the time Adobe Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56228116 Illustrator was in beta testing. When the story about his birth certificate finally being released broke, I went through it forensically too. There is no doubt it is manufactured. Great job O.P. Thanks!!! Do you think the Adobe layering is part of the forgery itself or can OCR'ing a scanned image create the layers? Do you think the forgery is the supposed scanned document itself? Do you think the image actually represents a scanned document? We are told (or at least as I understand it) that the image itself was from microfilm because supposedly the original paper copies were ditched after filming. They xerox copy (project) the B&W film image onto the funny green pattern paper, stamp it certified, then send it to whoever wants it. I have 20 years experience in genealogy and records research so I kinda know how it works. Last Edited by TexasPaleo on 05/17/2014 07:07 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58098837 United States 05/17/2014 07:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58098837 Haha, you guys have a viewed perception of what "trolling" is. maybe i was sent to troll you ? I sure do hope so, mister. and I apologize if that's the impression you got. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58098837 You guys give bad criticism. Prove the OP wrong, don't reduce it down to childish insults. I don't need to disprove him. My point is that the discussion isn't worth having and is ultimately harmful and a distraction from actual issues. Then don't have the discussion. I find the discussion of an illegitimate president is actually very important. I shall leave you to it. Though I'm going to go out on a limb and assume that you had no issues with the legitimacy of the previous president, regardless of the fact that he wasn't actually elected. Enjoy! You assume wrong. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58181480 France 05/17/2014 07:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | class='quoteo'> ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58181480 I don't need to disprove him. My point is that the discussion isn't worth having and is ultimately harmful and a distraction from actual issues. Then don't have the discussion. I find the discussion of an illegitimate president is actually very important. I shall leave you to it. Though I'm going to go out on a limb and assume that you had no issues with the legitimacy of the previous president, regardless of the fact that he wasn't actually elected. Enjoy! You assume wrong. then I apologize and wish you a lovely evening |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58181413 United Kingdom 05/17/2014 07:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | maybe i was sent to troll you ? I sure do hope so, mister. I wasn't angry and I apologize if that's the impression you got. You guys give bad criticism. Prove the OP wrong, don't reduce it down to childish insults. I don't need to disprove him. My point is that the discussion isn't worth having and is ultimately harmful and a distraction from actual issues. Then don't have the discussion. I find the discussion of an illegitimate president is actually very important. why would they be illegitimate? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 57638833 United States 05/17/2014 07:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You guys don't know me from Adam, but I used to work with Adobe Acrobat pro and Illustrator on a daily basis. It is totally forged. 10000% without a doubt. It had like a dozen layers and was very poorly done. They forgot to flatten the file, so you could dissect every layer. It literally blows my mind that this has been done and that that fraud is still in office. It basically proves that the Constitution has been suppressed by the real people in power. |