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Tallman User ID: 47003753 United Kingdom 05/18/2014 05:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All you have there is a sequence of four chords descending in pitch , repeated twice , the rest of the song then finishes in the major key. Stairway to heaven is in a minor key and has a different chord change and sequence. SO any band or musician could be able to sue anyone else who uses the same or similar chords arranged in a similar sequence, and if that was the case then all blues , blue grass and country and western singers would be screwed . NOTHING TO SEE HERE. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 53158374 United Kingdom 05/18/2014 05:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All you have there is a sequence of four chords descending in pitch , repeated twice , the rest of the song then finishes in the major key. Stairway to heaven is in a minor key and has a different chord change and sequence. Quoting: Tallman 47003753 SO any band or musician could be able to sue anyone else who uses the same or similar chords arranged in a similar sequence, and if that was the case then all blues , blue grass and country and western singers would be screwed . NOTHING TO SEE HERE. Status Quo made a whole living out of re-hashing the same song over and over again. They could sue themselves. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 50330002 United States 05/18/2014 05:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The band members of Spirit will be riding the stairway to heaven before this lawsuit gets resolved... Jeez did they wait long enough to pursue this? Quoting: ANHEDONIC The lead guitarist is already dead, in a tragic act of heroism: [link to www.independent.co.uk] To celebrate the New Year, Randy California and his 12-year-old son Quinn went swimming off the coast of Molokai, in Hawaii. A tidal wave caught them both but California managed to push his son away from the riptide before he was himself pulled out to sea It may be possible that one of the reasons for this lawsuit is to provide for his son. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 45981465 United States 05/18/2014 05:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Spirit toured with Led Zeppelin as the opener in 1968, when the latter band were making their American debut. They argue that the tour is the time Jimmy Page heard a riff from their song "Taurus", and re-worked it into the opening notes for ‘Stairway'. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56595248 [link to www.led-zeppelin.org] As you will hear at 0:44, Spirit may have a strong case for copyright infringement: [link to www.youtube.com] The start of this song is In The Evening, another Led Zep song. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 58082028 United States 05/18/2014 06:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All you have there is a sequence of four chords descending in pitch , repeated twice , the rest of the song then finishes in the major key. Stairway to heaven is in a minor key and has a different chord change and sequence. Quoting: Tallman 47003753 SO any band or musician could be able to sue anyone else who uses the same or similar chords arranged in a similar sequence, and if that was the case then all blues , blue grass and country and western singers would be screwed . NOTHING TO SEE HERE. Still very interesting... the cords are close, but not the same... copywrite lawsuits are very much like patent suits... if you change something by 15% you can patent it.. |
Éireann
User ID: 58168905 United States 05/18/2014 06:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The band members of Spirit will be riding the stairway to heaven before this lawsuit gets resolved... Jeez did they wait long enough to pursue this? Quoting: ANHEDONIC The lead guitarist is already dead, in a tragic act of heroism: [link to www.independent.co.uk] To celebrate the New Year, Randy California and his 12-year-old son Quinn went swimming off the coast of Molokai, in Hawaii. A tidal wave caught them both but California managed to push his son away from the riptide before he was himself pulled out to sea It may be possible that one of the reasons for this lawsuit is to provide for his son. Wow. What an amazing thing it must be to be a parent. He probably did that without even a thought for himself at all. Thanks for sharing that, Zen. Eireann~ I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. - Galatians 2:20 |
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User ID: 57409289 United Kingdom 05/18/2014 07:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All you have there is a sequence of four chords descending in pitch , repeated twice , the rest of the song then finishes in the major key. Stairway to heaven is in a minor key and has a different chord change and sequence. Quoting: Tallman 47003753 SO any band or musician could be able to sue anyone else who uses the same or similar chords arranged in a similar sequence, and if that was the case then all blues , blue grass and country and western singers would be screwed . NOTHING TO SEE HERE. Right...that's it, then...I'm suing everybody who uses the I,IV,V progression from now on. The chariots of God are tens of thousands, and thousands of thousands. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 58199704 United Kingdom 05/18/2014 07:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All you have there is a sequence of four chords descending in pitch , repeated twice , the rest of the song then finishes in the major key. Stairway to heaven is in a minor key and has a different chord change and sequence. Quoting: Tallman 47003753 SO any band or musician could be able to sue anyone else who uses the same or similar chords arranged in a similar sequence, and if that was the case then all blues , blue grass and country and western singers would be screwed . NOTHING TO SEE HERE. Status Quo made a whole living out of re-hashing the same song over and over again. They could sue themselves. Fuckin' three-chord wonder band! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 42079795 United States 05/18/2014 08:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Spirit toured with Led Zeppelin as the opener in 1968, when the latter band were making their American debut. They argue that the tour is the time Jimmy Page heard a riff from their song "Taurus", and re-worked it into the opening notes for ‘Stairway'. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56595248 [link to www.led-zeppelin.org] As you will hear at 0:44, Spirit may have a strong case for copyright infringement: [link to www.youtube.com] Makes me wonder... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 56583180 United States 05/18/2014 08:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This A minor chromatic pattern is present in hundreds of different songs and many different time signatures. For example it is clearly heard in different Latin American tunes, Stevie Wonder, and others. The Beatles have played it in the key of E minor in songs like "I'm only Sleeping," and others. George Harrison uses in within the song "Something in the Way She Moves." It is a standard bridge for songs. Quoting: SpaceCommand THIS ^^ Exactly what I was thinking. I learned how to play Stairway from knowing "Something" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58197853 Finland 05/18/2014 08:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Led Zeppelin Babe I'm Gonna Leave You: Joan Baez - Babe I'm Gonna Leave You (Anne Brendon) Dazed and Confused: Jake Holmes - Dazed and Confused Black Mountain Side: Bert Jansch - Black Water Side How Many More Times: Howlin Wolf - How Many More Years / Albert King - The Hunter / Jeff Beck - Bolero Communication Breakdown: Eddie Cochran - Nervous Breakdown Your Time Is Gonna Come: Traffic - Dear Mr. Fantasy Led Zeppelin II Whole lotta love: Muddy Waters (Willie Dixon) - You Need Love / Small Faces - You Need Loving Lemon Song: Howlin' Wolf - Killing Floor / Robert Johnson - Travelling Riverside Blues Moby Dick: Bobby Parker - Watch Your Step Bring it on Home: Sonny Boy Williamson - Bring it on Back Led Zeppelin III Since I've Been Loving You: Moby Grape - Never Hats Off: Bukka White - Shake 'em on Down Led Zeppelin IV Stairway to Heaven: Spirit - Taurus Physical Graffiti Custard pie: Sleepy John Estes - Drop Down Mama In my time of dying: Bob Dylan - In my time of dying (Blind Willie Johnson) Presence Nobody’s Fault But Mine: Blind Willie Johnson - Nobody’s Fault But Mine |
*Ozone Baby*
User ID: 53904957 Canada 05/18/2014 08:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All you have there is a sequence of four chords descending in pitch , repeated twice , the rest of the song then finishes in the major key. Stairway to heaven is in a minor key and has a different chord change and sequence. Quoting: Tallman 47003753 SO any band or musician could be able to sue anyone else who uses the same or similar chords arranged in a similar sequence, and if that was the case then all blues , blue grass and country and western singers would be screwed . NOTHING TO SEE HERE. ^^ This. Spirit doesn't stand a chance. Billions of people in the world, even more songs written, and only so many notes on a fret board. There is bound to be some duplication of the odd riff here and there. Elvis made his living ripping off three-chord progression guitar riffs. I can't begin to name how many others did as well. Nope, I don't believe there is a case here. Shame on Spirit. The entire Stairway song is a masterpiece, as is the majority of Zeppelin's music. No doubt people want a piece of the success to call their own. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Resident Led Zeppelin Expert (ask me anything!) Traveler of both time and space Fuck Trudeau. mRNA-Free and Proud. "The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.' ~ Chris Hitchens |
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User ID: 53904957 Canada 05/18/2014 08:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This A minor chromatic pattern is present in hundreds of different songs and many different time signatures. For example it is clearly heard in different Latin American tunes, Stevie Wonder, and others. The Beatles have played it in the key of E minor in songs like "I'm only Sleeping," and others. George Harrison uses in within the song "Something in the Way She Moves." It is a standard bridge for songs. Quoting: SpaceCommand THIS ^^ Exactly what I was thinking. I learned how to play Stairway from knowing "Something" Yes!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Resident Led Zeppelin Expert (ask me anything!) Traveler of both time and space Fuck Trudeau. mRNA-Free and Proud. "The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.' ~ Chris Hitchens |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 46285418 United States 05/18/2014 08:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All you have there is a sequence of four chords descending in pitch , repeated twice , the rest of the song then finishes in the major key. Stairway to heaven is in a minor key and has a different chord change and sequence. Quoting: Tallman 47003753 SO any band or musician could be able to sue anyone else who uses the same or similar chords arranged in a similar sequence, and if that was the case then all blues , blue grass and country and western singers would be screwed . NOTHING TO SEE HERE. Agree. Even if he was inspired by it, I just don't think it's that similar. I had to listen twice. |
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