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Mexico: Coincidence Jade Helm-Chapo ?? [update p.3]

 
Zapata  (OP)

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 Quoting: Zapata

Thank you for this link. I think you know already that we really don't hear very much of what's going on in Mexico and our proximity isn't helping. The federales have always been enemies of the people! They are only thugs being trained by other thugs. There's a lot more history of bad federales in Mexico than there ever was of 'bad drug gangs' but not many Americans know it. Perhaps seeing our own government acting no better will encourage more of us to compare notes with other countries on the same modus operandi. Let us hope that 'seed' germinates well and becomes a big forest.
 Quoting: A-Mazed


This is important:

"...I think you know already that we really don't hear very much of what's going on in Mexico and our proximity isn't helping..."

One of the things that is going on is that mexican government is not doing anything to stop immigrants that reach Mexico´s south border. Yep those people of Central America [Guatemaltecos, Salvadoreños, Hondureños, Costarricenses, Panamenos etc..] arrive to Mexico with the idea to reach USA later.

But Mexican government do nothing...in fact help them to reach USA through many "humanitarian" organizations. But this is not the worse. Crime groups as LOS MARAS SALVATRUCHA have free transit in the south border

This happened last week:

Civil Honduras National Police (PNC) revealed that there are serious indications that Los Zetas, one of the largest and most dangerous organized crime mafias in Mexico are supplying large quantities of weapons to the Mara Salvatrucha and Barrio 18 gang operating on Honduran soil, to strengthen their ties in drug trafficking and other criminal procedures that plague Central America.

The police spokesman, commissioner Julian Hernandez, told to "The Universal" that arms trafficking is hitting "not only in Honduras but throughout Central America, where we are suffering from the same affliction. Perhaps it is stronger in some countries than in others, but all have the same headache, "he said.

"They are doing research" on the penetration of Los Zetas, with a strong presence in Guatemala, and other Mexican cartels as arms suppliers youth gangs, said."

The Southern Command of the U.S. Army stationed in Florida revealed that some 900 tons of cocaine a year pass through Central America Caribbean, about 80% are trafficked from Honduras to Mexico and the U.S.

A police report circulated in Honduras showed that more than 1.8 million firearms, move between crime in that nation and that over 75% have no official record or are illegal. In recent seizures, PNC found automatic handguns and grenades exploding and expanding in areas with strong criminal presence and the camera, such as the Caribbean.

There´s a secret war in the USA backyard...time will tell if it reach american streets...a war caused by the poverty.




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Last Edited by Zapata on 05/26/2014 04:22 PM
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Why aren't those Mexicans in the US? Did they not get the memo?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32712582


hmm

Most of them go to California...but California doesn´t have water...or Texas where the people is drinking water recycled from wastewater — including the water flushed down toilets.

[link to www.salon.com]

So i imagine americans an mexicans have a BIG problem with water...in fact the world.
 Quoting: Zapata

Both Americans and Mexicans have a big problem with fucking corporations and the immoral politicians they pay off. Thing is, the 'governor' doesn't own that water and cannot sign it off to anybody. This is only a case of 'might makes right.'

I heard some of the drug cartels down there don't have as much to do now that some U.S. states are legalizing pot, so maybe they could go help those people against the governor's gestapo?
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One dollar is the cost for central american people [including children] for crossing of the Suchiate river in Chiapas, the Mexico south border... there´s not mexican authority that stop them from arrive to the US-MEX border.

The inmigrants just have to board the train called "the beast" to travel from Chiapas to Oaxaca and then across Mexico. During their journey they are victims of organized crime and corruption.





how is possible that children arrive to the border if not with the help of mexican authorities and smugglers.

At the end of the XIX Regional Conference on Migration held in Managua, which participated Mexico, Central America, United States and Canada, the countries signed a declaration to protect the human rights of children in their journey, dismantle gangs traffickers and deploy media to end the rumor that sparked the exodus of the poor with the false promise of being legalized to reach U.S. soil campaigns.


"The smugglers make parents think that paying $ 5000 to $ 7000 pesos [usd 500+-] can get them to have a better life in the United States," said Carmen Guillén Vicente, Undersecretary for Population, Migration and Religious Affairs of the Ministry of the Interior of Mexico during the conference.

human traffic is BIG business without doubt.
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Mexican Government says that there´s a humanitarian crisis with the immigrant children and that this is a TRAGEDY!!

So it´s possible that the Government ask for money to USA to stop this "tragedy". Money that indeed will finish in the pockets of politicians and with buying guns to fight the smugglers...

But there´s something else very very macabre...what happens with the children whose journey is other place far from USA?

Well there´s a black market of human organs. Is this the real reason of the immigrant children in the USA? Did they discover a net of organs traffic?

Did you know that mexican drug cartels traffic organs to USA also?



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biological war!!
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The Cartel called Knights Templar is a Mexican criminal organization composed of remnants of the defunct La Familia Michoacana drug cartel based in the Mexican state of Michoacán.

With the Sinaloa Cartel and Gulf Cartel, formed a short-lived joint enforcer gang called Cárteles Unidos (United Cartels) or La Resistencia, composed of well-trained gunmen dedicated to kill and expel Los Zetas Cartel.

The Knights Templar cartel is a pseudo religious organization also like a brotherhood... with rituals based on catholicism.
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Water WARS - this won't be the last - I hear of this type of thing happening in South America a lot now - industry pushing around the locals over water rights - sad, so sad
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Do you think that Mexican Government cares about what you think of the border crisis?


"President Enrique Peña Nieto launched the Southern Border program to protect and safeguard the rights of migrants who enter Mexico in order to cross to USA.

Accompanied by Otto Perez Molina, President of Guatemala, Peña Nieto said that the Program has five pillars:

1. Care Centers for Transit
2. Social and health care
3. Protection against Organized crime
4. Special mechanism for migrant children traveling alone.
5. Creation of a center for Comprehensive Care migration in Southern Border.

Undocumented immigrants may be in Mexico for only three days in neighboring municipalities to Guatemala

This is crazy!!!

Let the inmigrants cross Mexico´s south border so they can rest and then travel to USA when exist the possibility that they might be returned to their countries!!!

mujer


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Chronicles of the unseen wars of Mexico against its own people.

Hello this is happening in San Bartolo Ameyalco a village near Mexico city.

Over 1,000 policemen are closing entries to the town. They broke in schools and are assaulting young women and older adults.

Why? Because the people is protesting against the construction of a conduct of water.

The village is unique in the City which has the only natural spring and the goverment is diverting the water to a corporate area.

This natural spring satisfy the village´s water need. Order were given by Mexico city governor Miguel Angel Mancera




 Quoting: Zapata


Mexico needs to stay out of our business and our nation and fix their own damn country!!! Stop telling us what to do and take care of your people
zzcat

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Chronicles of the unseen wars of Mexico against its own people.

Hello this is happening in San Bartolo Ameyalco a village near Mexico city.

Over 1,000 policemen are closing entries to the town. They broke in schools and are assaulting young women and older adults.

Why? Because the people is protesting against the construction of a conduct of water.

The village is unique in the City which has the only natural spring and the goverment is diverting the water to a corporate area.

This natural spring satisfy the village´s water need. Order were given by Mexico city governor Miguel Angel Mancera




 Quoting: Zapata


Mexico needs to stay out of our business and our nation and fix their own damn country!!! Stop telling us what to do and take care of your people
 Quoting: zzcat


this is forum... are you stupid or stonned? Im not telling what to do. stop smoking juana if you dont control it.
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Para Mancera, con Amor.

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Mexican Government says that there´s a humanitarian crisis with the immigrant children and that this is a TRAGEDY!!

So it´s possible that the Government ask for money to USA to stop this "tragedy". Money that indeed will finish in the pockets of politicians and with buying guns to fight the smugglers...

But there´s something else very very macabre...what happens with the children whose journey is other place far from USA?

Well there´s a black market of human organs. Is this the real reason of the immigrant children in the USA? Did they discover a net of organs traffic?

Did you know that mexican drug cartels traffic organs to USA also?



 Quoting: Zapata


This is so sad. :( Having lived in Arizona for a long time, I used to keep up with what was going on in Mexico...to me, it was important. Lately, not so much time to do so.*sigh* I had no idea about the trafficking of organs. Thank you for this information. I will have to start paying more attention and reading again.
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Mexico needs to stay out of our business and our nation and fix their own damn country!!! Stop telling us what to do and take care of your people
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And you do not think the United States involves itself in Mexican affairs? "Allowing" Drug trafficking...Weapons trafficking...human trafficking?? What the hell is NAFTA all about. (sarcasm)

Not sure if there is truth to this, however, I recall reading in a book ...I believe by Charles Bowden...about a treaty the US has with Mexico, that we have rights to their water. I will have to go down the rabbit-hole on this one to substantiate it. My mind is rusty.
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Meant to post under my username...not as a coward.


Mexico needs to stay out of our business and our nation and fix their own damn country!!! Stop telling us what to do and take care of your people
 Quoting: zzcat



And you do not think the United States involves itself in Mexican affairs? "Allowing" Drug trafficking...Weapons trafficking...human trafficking?? What the hell is NAFTA all about. (sarcasm)

Not sure if there is truth to this, however, I recall reading in a book ...I believe by Charles Bowden...about a treaty the US has with Mexico, that we have rights to their water. I will have to go down the rabbit-hole on this one to substantiate it. My mind is rusty.
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MEXICO CITY — A day that's supposed to celebrate the anniversary of a revolution is instead turning into one of mass protests against political corruption and outrage over violence that probably left 43 missing students dead.

"There's a feeling of being fed up that's been building for some time," said law student Esteban Santillán, 24, who marched in Mexico City last month. The case of the missing students "is the best example of the rot that there is in the country's political class."


Students, parents and supporters of the missing plan protests in Mexico City and across the country Thursday, when Mexico normally marks the anniversary of the Revolution of 1910, which resulted from discontent over a lack of democracy and farmers' desire for land and liberty.

Protest organizers promise to block access to the international airport. Revolution Day parades have been canceled in parts of Guerrero and Michoacán states for security reasons. Government buildings have been burned in Guerrero state, and stores and delivery trucks have been looted since the students went missing.


[link to www.usatoday.com]


HOODED TRYING TO ATTACK MEXICO CITY AIRPORT


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Mexican First lady Angelica Rivera, former actress, owns a 7 million dollar house... is impossible that she had bought a house of that value with her salary as an actress.

Mexico’s first lady has said she will sell her interest in a personal home built and still owned by a company that has gained millions in contracts under President Enrique Peña Nieto, in an apparent effort to quell a conflict-of-interest scandal that has surrounded the couple.

Angelica Rivera, a former actor, laid out her earnings as a soap opera star in a video statement posted on her website and explained how she came to build the multimillion-dollar home in Mexico City’s most exclusive neighbourhood.

“I have nothing to hide,” she said, adding at the end of her seven-minute address: “I have taken the decision to sell my interests in the purchase contract of the house.”

[link to www.theguardian.com]
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Live feed:


Here is my secret. It is very simple: one sees well only with the heart. The essential is invisible to the eyes.
- The Little Prince, by Antoine de Saint Exupéry

Subterranean homesick alien excommunicated from the brotherhood of man to wander lonely as a puzzled anagram...
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This is a comparison between the value of the homes of some actresses with the value of the house of the Mexican First Lady


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Well, that sucks. How are supposed to get their water?
 Quoting: indiandave


MOVE HERE, OBVIOUSLY.

Its policy to drive the Mexicans north of the border or they wouldn't be here.
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Protesters throw petrol bombs at government palace and face police

[link to tv.milenio.com]
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Damn white people and their drug problems!
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This "uprising" was timed with obamas amnesty to send even more to the border
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This "uprising" was timed with obamas amnesty to send even more to the border
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idiotic comment like if everything has somethig to do with US.

putin
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The 'hacienda oligarchy' that controls everything in MX is allowing the country to slide comfortably into a failed state with a low quality of life ranking and one of the lowest humanitarian response efforts in the world.

There might be resistance if the mestizos were not encouraged to head north.
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Looks well organized, better than Venezuela, a little less than Ukraine.
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My analysis so far
Revolution to overthrow corrupt regime
removal of Church influence, and certain cartels not allied to CIA
increase of immigration and later intervention by USA
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Not that my side (if i am on any) is saying this will lead to a Novorussia type situation...who knows, we might say an actual Knight Templars state lol





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