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How does one find grace in suffering?

 
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How does one find grace in suffering?
I ask this not necessarily for me, but for all others who suffer! I have a body racked with pain from auto accidents,various disease processes and the like and carry a heavy burden I have my ways of dealing with it and I am just looking for the inspiration for others who suffer for whatever reason. How do you find the grace to carry a heavy cross day after day and year after year? Ideas and opinions wanted! Thanks
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Thanks for the 5stars!!
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Thanks for the 5stars!!
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Well, it's a worthy subject, so I pinned it as well.

We all 'have our crosses to bear' as some people say.


This, too, will pass.
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Re: How does one find grace in suffering?
Suffering is the pathway that leads us to grace. It teaches us the path that we walk on. We were never promised an easy road and some have had some very hard lives with trials. Train your eyes and your mindset find the blessing in it,humble yourself to it and it will lead you to grace. hugs
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Thanks for the 5stars!!
 Quoting: Guitarguy55


Well, it's a worthy subject, so I pinned it as well.

We all 'have our crosses to bear' as some people say.


This, too, will pass.
 Quoting: Shoot-Straight Johnny


All things do and I am looking for the inspiration for others who may be having a hard time!!
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In your darkest hour, you strike gold.
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Re: How does one find grace in suffering?
Be a tzadik

" One whose merit surpasses his iniquity "

Don't let your obstacle be your defeat, but the key to your victories
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In your darkest hour, you strike gold.
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We all hope that's the case!
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Re: How does one find grace in suffering?
Alcohol.
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Alcohol.
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Probably not the best way but thanks!
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Re: How does one find grace in suffering?
quietly, in a humble way, and with much humility.
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Re: How does one find grace in suffering?
one could also say that Grace finds you, if you deserve (to see) it
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All things that happen to us has a reason. You didn't just get your body when you were born at random. You picked your life before you were even born. To work out old karma, at lest that are my feelings.
I do hope your pain gets better hf
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hugsgrouphughugspope
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Re: How does one find grace in suffering?
one could also say that Grace finds you, if you deserve (to see) it
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I think all who truly suffer deserve some modicum of grace to be able to hold ones head up each and every day!! Don't ya think.
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Re: How does one find grace in suffering?
All things that happen to us has a reason. You didn't just get your body when you were born at random. You picked your life before you were even born. To work out old karma, at lest that are my feelings.
I do hope your pain gets better hf
 Quoting: MONSTER


Thanks and I must have been Atilla the Hun in a past life to be paying off this gigantic Karma Debt bill I'm payin!!lol
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Re: How does one find grace in suffering?
...you know, as well, it always helps to put things into perspective by reminding yourself that others have led and continue to lead far harsher lives

As crappy as my life has been, I still have 2 arms and legs, I can still hear and see, I have a roof over my head, food to eat, etc.
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Re: How does one find grace in suffering?
...you know, as well, it always helps to put things into perspective by reminding yourself that others have led and continue to lead far harsher lives

As crappy as my life has been, I still have 2 arms and legs, I can still hear and see, I have a roof over my head, food to eat, etc.
 Quoting: Isaac's name


There will always be someone far less fortunate than you or I, and I guess that sometimes when you are awoken in the middle of the night by pain or whatever your problems may be that line of "perspective" may become blurred just a little.
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Re: How does one find grace in suffering?
My sweet grandma used to say, "the person you are sitting next to may have it worse than you." So when I feel down trodden, I don't dwell on my own burdens, I try to find something nice to do for others. Big boost for the fuzzy happy feeling.
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Re: How does one find grace in suffering?
All things that happen to us has a reason. You didn't just get your body when you were born at random. You picked your life before you were even born. To work out old karma, at lest that are my feelings.
I do hope your pain gets better hf
 Quoting: MONSTER


Thanks and I must have been Atilla the Hun in a past life to be paying off this gigantic Karma Debt bill I'm payin!!lol
 Quoting: Guitarguy55


I've come to think that there is nothing to be learned from all the suffering. That karma stuff and choosing it stuff...I'm just not so sure. It's one of those nice answers that might be like that pretty log in the forest that you had better not roll over and see what is squirming underneath it.

However. We choose how we deal with the pain. Trying to live with grace and dignity is certainly the best way to go about it. It's actually a kindness to others that they usually are not even aware of.

We learn sympathy for others with our pain. If we don't break and turn cruel to others, as happens sometimes with mental anguish and physical pain.

So....the point of a whole world full of suffering???
You got me. I don't think there is one, to tell you the truth. Like everyone else who has a life like this, you just keep on truckin' and hopin' for the best, because what else can you do? Many people turn around and create more pain, and it's continuous...not good.

Best wishes for you, OP, and all others who are in the same boat in one way or another.
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“Nothing forces us to know
What we do not want to know
Except pain”
― Aeschylus, The Oresteia


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Re: How does one find grace in suffering?
one could also say that Grace finds you, if you deserve (to see) it
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I think all who truly suffer deserve some modicum of grace to be able to hold ones head up each and every day!! Don't ya think.
 Quoting: Guitarguy55


most people choose not to see things for what that all, so they miss their instruments of salvation
lead a horse to water etc etc
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Re: How does one find grace in suffering?
All things that happen to us has a reason. You didn't just get your body when you were born at random. You picked your life before you were even born. To work out old karma, at lest that are my feelings.
I do hope your pain gets better hf
 Quoting: MONSTER


Thanks and I must have been Atilla the Hun in a past life to be paying off this gigantic Karma Debt bill I'm payin!!lol
 Quoting: Guitarguy55


I've come to think that there is nothing to be learned from all the suffering. That karma stuff and choosing it stuff...I'm just not so sure. It's one of those nice answers that might be like that pretty log in the forest that you had better not roll over and see what is squirming underneath it.

However. We choose how we deal with the pain. Trying to live with grace and dignity is certainly the best way to go about it. It's actually a kindness to others that they usually are not even aware of.

We learn sympathy for others with our pain. If we don't break and turn cruel to others, as happens sometimes with mental anguish and physical pain.

So....the point of a whole world full of suffering???
You got me. I don't think there is one, to tell you the truth. Like everyone else who has a life like this, you just keep on truckin' and hopin' for the best, because what else can you do? Many people turn around and create more pain, and it's continuous...not good.

Best wishes for you, OP, and all others who are in the same boat in one way or another.
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Thank you for your honest answer!!!
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Re: How does one find grace in suffering?
You find grace in suffering through the value of it. Most people are incredibly stupid and near sighted so they require pain and suffering to learn. That is your grace. A free education.
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GOD!
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At first I thought it was karma and punishment (which some of it may have been). But now when I find myself feeling frustrated by all that I've been through I tell myself that I'm destined for something greater and that God gives the hardest battles to his strongest soldiers. Hang in there.
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Re: How does one find grace in suffering?
You find grace in suffering through the value of it. Most people are incredibly stupid and near sighted so they require pain and suffering to learn. That is your grace. A free education.
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I didn't say I haven't found mine!! Just looking to give others hope if they cannot find it!!
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Suffering is an unnecessary aspect of the human experience. It is not only
unnecessary, it is unwise, uncomfortable, and hazardous to your health. Make higher choices as how you perceive life. hf
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It is what it is. Grace is found in living with those things that one cannot do anything to alter. Look around you, few people live without pain. Acceptance. Gratitude that things are not worse than they are.

Look at the alternative; is living wearing the yellow ribbon of suffering on your forehead any better?
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These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world. John 16:33
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Re: How does one find grace in suffering?
By realizing that there's no one there to suffer. That is the grace. When you realize there's no "identity" that can suffer, you realize that "suffering" is just a story, and in its happening, it's just a moment.

Pain is one of the quickest pathways to god/universe/spirit/Tao, if you're willing to surrender the suffering to it and realize you ARE it.





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