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How does one find grace in suffering?

 
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I ask this not necessarily for me, but for all others who suffer! I have a body racked with pain from auto accidents,various disease processes and the like and carry a heavy burden I have my ways of dealing with it and I am just looking for the inspiration for others who suffer for whatever reason. How do you find the grace to carry a heavy cross day after day and year after year? Ideas and opinions wanted! Thanks
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I always thought that you choose your life before your born. Maybe to be forgiven of a previous wrong, maybe to get to a higher level spiritually or in heaven.

You may think only you notice the grace with which you handle suffering, but others do notice and in time you will be thought of as a hero by someone and it will change their life.

Grace is a gift few truly have and there is a special place for them.
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I ask this not necessarily for me, but for all others who suffer! I have a body racked with pain from auto accidents,various disease processes and the like and carry a heavy burden I have my ways of dealing with it and I am just looking for the inspiration for others who suffer for whatever reason. How do you find the grace to carry a heavy cross day after day and year after year? Ideas and opinions wanted! Thanks
Guitarguy55
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We all suffer, one way or another. If not now, later. The only thing that ennobles suffering is giving it to God because He can do unimaginable things with it. Both for your soul and the souls and lives of others. God bless.
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Suffering is the pathway that leads us to grace. It teaches us the path that we walk on. We were never promised an easy road and some have had some very hard lives with trials. Train your eyes and your mindset find the blessing in it,humble yourself to it and it will lead you to grace. hugs
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In your darkest hour, you strike gold.
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We all hope that's the case!
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No hope involved.

It's a fact.
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My sweet grandma used to say, "the person you are sitting next to may have it worse than you." So when I feel down trodden, I don't dwell on my own burdens, I try to find something nice to do for others. Big boost for the fuzzy happy feeling.
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So you help people to make yourself feel good?

I don't think I've ever heard a more egocentric thing in my life...and I'm 40.
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...you know, as well, it always helps to put things into perspective by reminding yourself that others have led and continue to lead far harsher lives

As crappy as my life has been, I still have 2 arms and legs, I can still hear and see, I have a roof over my head, food to eat, etc.
 Quoting: Isaac's name


There will always be someone far less fortunate than you or I, and I guess that sometimes when you are awoken in the middle of the night by pain or whatever your problems may be that line of "perspective" may become blurred just a little.
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I've never been able to take comfort in knowing that others feel worse. :-(
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Water
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Mantras/ affirmations that invoke what you believe in
Self massage
Ho'oponopono
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We each have our burden to bear. You identify suffering because of your pain of the body. Someone else suffers through divorce. Some cancer or another illness. Some suffer the loss of house, car, job. I suffer through the loss of my only child. How do I suffer this grief and survive ? through hope, through what faith I can muster each day with the knowing beyond this Earthly life I will see my child again. What gets me through each day. Proverbs 3:5-6

I'm not in control of this life. This is not my home. I'm just passing through. Ready to move on would be a grand understatement.
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Suffering is an unnecessary aspect of the human experience. It is not only
unnecessary, it is unwise, uncomfortable, and hazardous to your health. Make higher choices as how you perceive life. hf
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A most excellent answer!

Those who believe suffering brings learning are more likely to inflict it on others, especially the helpless and young.
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All things that happen to us has a reason. You didn't just get your body when you were born at random. You picked your life before you were even born. To work out old karma, at lest that are my feelings.
I do hope your pain gets better hf
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Thanks and I must have been Atilla the Hun in a past life to be paying off this gigantic Karma Debt bill I'm payin!!lol
 Quoting: Guitarguy55


I have thought that way a few times myself, though not with the pain you have to bear.

I think it is working out past karma, past wrongdoing, past hurtful and selfish behavior.

My blessings go in your direction...

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We each have our burden to bear. You identify suffering because of your pain of the body. Someone else suffers through divorce. Some cancer or another illness. Some suffer the loss of house, car, job. I suffer through the loss of my only child. How do I suffer this grief and survive ? through hope, through what faith I can muster each day with the knowing beyond this Earthly life I will see my child again. What gets me through each day. Proverbs 3:5-6

I'm not in control of this life. This is not my home. I'm just passing through. Ready to move on would be a grand understatement.
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I am truly sorry for your loss and thank you for your heartfelt response!! You understand the question when I asked about "others" who suffer, not that everyone else didn't but you suffer to me the unsufferable which is the loss of ones child and may you find peace!! I truly hope that for you
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How does one find grace in suffering?


Guitarguy55
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By uniting your suffering to Our Lord's suffering on the Cross, and offering it up.
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Re: How does one find grace in suffering?
My sweet grandma used to say, "the person you are sitting next to may have it worse than you." So when I feel down trodden, I don't dwell on my own burdens, I try to find something nice to do for others. Big boost for the fuzzy happy feeling.
 Quoting: Canned_unicorn


So you help people to make yourself feel good?

I don't think I've ever heard a more egocentric thing in my life...and I'm 40.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28592230


Oh, please, I bet you love to find fault in things expressed by those who are not finding fault.
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Re: How does one find grace in suffering?
...you know, as well, it always helps to put things into perspective by reminding yourself that others have led and continue to lead far harsher lives

As crappy as my life has been, I still have 2 arms and legs, I can still hear and see, I have a roof over my head, food to eat, etc.
 Quoting: Isaac's name


There will always be someone far less fortunate than you or I, and I guess that sometimes when you are awoken in the middle of the night by pain or whatever your problems may be that line of "perspective" may become blurred just a little.
 Quoting: Guitarguy55


I've never been able to take comfort in knowing that others feel worse. :-(
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46975225


You misunderstand what has been expressed. It is not "taking comfort" in another's misery, it is comprehending that while we think we will not survive what it is that we experience, we come into an understanding that others Are carrying larger or more painful burdens so we see them carry on and realize we have a lot less to deal with than we thought.
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Re: How does one find grace in suffering?
Wow. This is a pretty profound question, kinda slapped me in the face.


As for emotional suffering.....I have walked through it the best I can. I do not know how graceful I have been. I have at times used various means to try and numb myself to certain issues. None of which helped in the long term but honestly without them I may have killed myself. I look back and wonder how I got through it. During these times I abandoned my faith as much as I felt God abandoned me. Its still hard for me to wrap my head around some things, but not as bad as I have been in the past. I am on the other side of the heartache and emotional pain, for now.


I am kind of in the same situation with physical pain.The hardest part of this is that there are some things I just cannot do any longer as much as I want to, I have to concede and accept things the way they are. When you have things working against you, obstacles that you can do nothing about....it's a very hard pill to swallow.I just do the best I can to get through it and I ask God to give me strength. I go to church a couple times a month, it gives me some comfort. The first Sunday of every month they do communion, that helps me on a spiritual level and a psychological one as well.


True story:

My mom had gone in for surgery to remove a kidney. They brought her back to her room, told us she had stage 4 cancer, inoperable and there was no treatment for it. She was dying.

A nurse told me the next day that the young surgical intern came to see her after we had left for the night. She told me he broke down crying, telling my mom how sorry he was and he had his head in my mothers lap and she was comforting him. She died 3 weeks later and she was as graceful the whole time. And her faith in God never faltered.

She is my hero and now when I feel like I can't go on, I think of her courage and grace. I can only hope to be that graceful....


Ok I am done, emotional overload. Need a break
"We are locked in a battle. This is not a friendly, gentleman's discussion. It is a life and death conflict between the spiritual hosts of wickedness and those who claim the name of Jesus Christ."

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Re: How does one find grace in suffering?
My sweet grandma used to say, "the person you are sitting next to may have it worse than you." So when I feel down trodden, I don't dwell on my own burdens, I try to find something nice to do for others. Big boost for the fuzzy happy feeling.
 Quoting: Canned_unicorn


So you help people to make yourself feel good?

I don't think I've ever heard a more egocentric thing in my life...and I'm 40.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28592230


Well I am 45 and I don't think that is egocentric at all. So I win right?
"We are locked in a battle. This is not a friendly, gentleman's discussion. It is a life and death conflict between the spiritual hosts of wickedness and those who claim the name of Jesus Christ."

"The Saints are Sinners that keep on trying"
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Re: How does one find grace in suffering?
Suffering has given me much more compassion for others. That is grace.

grouphug

17 The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise.

wave


3 Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

4 Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.

5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.

6 Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.

7 Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.

8 Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.

9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.

10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.

12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.
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Re: How does one find grace in suffering?
Suffering is the pathway that leads us to grace. It teaches us the path that we walk on. We were never promised an easy road and some have had some very hard lives with trials. Train your eyes and your mindset find the blessing in it,humble yourself to it and it will lead you to grace. hugs
 Quoting: ByFaithAlone


seal You are not alone! We are one in Christ!g
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Re: How does one find grace in suffering?
one could also say that Grace finds you, if you deserve (to see) it
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Cant agree with that.I know a few people that have DESERVED it for years but keep flying high and winning at everyone else expense,
The kindest,most humble,giving,caring,and loving people seem to be the ones that suffer.Rarely the ones that really deserve to suffer.
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Re: How does one find grace in suffering?
Suffering is the pathway that leads us to grace. It teaches us the path that we walk on. We were never promised an easy road and some have had some very hard lives with trials. Train your eyes and your mindset find the blessing in it,humble yourself to it and it will lead you to grace. hugs
 Quoting: ByFaithAlone


seal You are not alone! We are one in Christ!
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Re: How does one find grace in suffering?
Wow. This is a pretty profound question, kinda slapped me in the face.


As for emotional suffering.....I have walked through it the best I can. I do not know how graceful I have been. I have at times used various means to try and numb myself to certain issues. None of which helped in the long term but honestly without them I may have killed myself. I look back and wonder how I got through it. During these times I abandoned my faith as much as I felt God abandoned me. Its still hard for me to wrap my head around some things, but not as bad as I have been in the past. I am on the other side of the heartache and emotional pain, for now.


I am kind of in the same situation with physical pain.The hardest part of this is that there are some things I just cannot do any longer as much as I want to, I have to concede and accept things the way they are. When you have things working against you, obstacles that you can do nothing about....it's a very hard pill to swallow.I just do the best I can to get through it and I ask God to give me strength. I go to church a couple times a month, it gives me some comfort. The first Sunday of every month they do communion, that helps me on a spiritual level and a psychological one as well.


True story:

My mom had gone in for surgery to remove a kidney. They brought her back to her room, told us she had stage 4 cancer, inoperable and there was no treatment for it. She was dying.

A nurse told me the next day that the young surgical intern came to see her after we had left for the night. She told me he broke down crying, telling my mom how sorry he was and he had his head in my mothers lap and she was comforting him. She died 3 weeks later and she was as graceful the whole time. And her faith in God never faltered.

She is my hero and now when I feel like I can't go on, I think of her courage and grace. I can only hope to be that graceful....


Ok I am done, emotional overload. Need a break
 Quoting: Bambi2U

I am sorry for the loss of your mother and for the emotional and physical pain you endure!! But your story is one of hope and inspiration for others!!
Thank you for sharing
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Re: How does one find grace in suffering?
it's all bullshit.
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Humbled Humility.
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Not everything is grace. Have you forgot this world is a testing/sifting process? Cling tight.

The weeds are being pulled.
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Re: How does one find grace in suffering?
Suffering has given me much more compassion for others. That is grace.

grouphug

17 The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise.

wave


3 Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

4 Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.

5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.

6 Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.

7 Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.

8 Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.

9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.

10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.

12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.
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All can find strength in these words religeous or not
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Re: How does one find grace in suffering?
Suffering has given me much more compassion for others. That is grace.

grouphug

17 The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise.

wave


3 Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

4 Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.

5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.

6 Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.

7 Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.

8 Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.

9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.

10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.

12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58375848


All can find strength in these words religeous or not
 Quoting: Guitarguy55



God found me and I found God at my very lowest low.

hf
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Well I have to go for now but keep on posting and a big thanks to all who have responded!!
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Re: How does one find grace in suffering?
Wow. This is a pretty profound question, kinda slapped me in the face.


As for emotional suffering.....I have walked through it the best I can. I do not know how graceful I have been. I have at times used various means to try and numb myself to certain issues. None of which helped in the long term but honestly without them I may have killed myself. I look back and wonder how I got through it. During these times I abandoned my faith as much as I felt God abandoned me. Its still hard for me to wrap my head around some things, but not as bad as I have been in the past. I am on the other side of the heartache and emotional pain, for now.


I am kind of in the same situation with physical pain.The hardest part of this is that there are some things I just cannot do any longer as much as I want to, I have to concede and accept things the way they are. When you have things working against you, obstacles that you can do nothing about....it's a very hard pill to swallow.I just do the best I can to get through it and I ask God to give me strength. I go to church a couple times a month, it gives me some comfort. The first Sunday of every month they do communion, that helps me on a spiritual level and a psychological one as well.


True story:

My mom had gone in for surgery to remove a kidney. They brought her back to her room, told us she had stage 4 cancer, inoperable and there was no treatment for it. She was dying.

A nurse told me the next day that the young surgical intern came to see her after we had left for the night. She told me he broke down crying, telling my mom how sorry he was and he had his head in my mothers lap and she was comforting him. She died 3 weeks later and she was as graceful the whole time. And her faith in God never faltered.

She is my hero and now when I feel like I can't go on, I think of her courage and grace. I can only hope to be that graceful....


Ok I am done, emotional overload. Need a break
 Quoting: Bambi2U

I am sorry for the loss of your mother and for the emotional and physical pain you endure!! But your story is one of hope and inspiration for others!!
Thank you for sharing
Guitarguy55
 Quoting: Guitarguy55


Thank you hun. I hope that you find some peace amidst the pain. If you ever need to talk, feel free to message. Hugs
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Re: How does one find grace in suffering?
My sweet grandma used to say, "the person you are sitting next to may have it worse than you." So when I feel down trodden, I don't dwell on my own burdens, I try to find something nice to do for others. Big boost for the fuzzy happy feeling.
 Quoting: Canned_unicorn


So you help people to make yourself feel good?

I don't think I've ever heard a more egocentric thing in my life...and I'm 40.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28592230


Well I am 45 and I don't think that is egocentric at all. So I win right?
 Quoting: Bambi2U


If that's the most egocentric thing you have ever heard at 40, well my suggestion is to crawl out from under the rock you reside at. Sad that you down someone for doing something nice.





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