Empaths: real or not?

Oh my goodness...you guys just mentioned liars....
My brother is the biggest one and BS artist. It's hell. We are estranged now as a result.
It's funny how "we" sense their lies.

Lucy, et. al., taking care of patients... Amazing :)

Totally Real..... totally.

GREETINGS:

I HAVE FOUND ANOTHER...and a female at that! ...this is getting better and better..

"Do You ??? Feel what I feel ???"

if you do then you are true.....

"I feel you're way too anal....must be an engineer"

In addition to being aware at a very young age of my own personal feelings besides others, as I grew older I felt the need to go out into the world and experience those many a spectrum of feelings we are all surrounded by on a daily bases, from the age of 18 to 25 I spent that time wandering the United States in search of not only my own inner most feelings but those Of whom I became acquainted with, I spent many a days and even nights watching learning, putting body gestures with all those expressions and feelings that permeated from whence I observed, in my opinion? Yes, you can judge a book by its cover 95% of all of the time. What I learned from my personal ventures along with my own personal feelings? We are all the same, there are only slight differences between us all, that little 5% is what makes us different than the next guy or may even keep you guessing. Empathy, is very very real, it's up to the individual wether or not it becomes. Cultivated or not just like any other human natural ability, for me? It's become second nature, in a blink of an eye the discernment is there, I turn on, I turn it off, you should all know this, you have feelings don't you? Sometimes vague, sometimes strong, you just need to pay attention to them more........among other things within in you. Peace

I send you as sheep amongst wolves

the CIA MI7 and NSA
use empaths to heal satanists

I first heard the term on this site around the time I first joined. There wasn't much context in the post for me to understand what it meant, so I did some digging.

I found a site with a set of about 30 criteria to figure out whether or not you may be one. After reading through each one, I realized that it almost literally described me to a T; with the exception of only a couple. I was a bit taken aback.

My entire life I'd battled with experiencing almost everything they'd described on that list, without understanding it. I thought, could it be? Was this my answer as to why I had experienced all these things, when nobody else seemed to?

But, after much contemplation, I decided that I wasn't prepared to label myself an Empath; or to commit to believing they truly exist as a specific thing. Having been educated in the field of psychology, I've grown very uncomfortable with drawing diagnostics until absolutely certain. Yet, part of me cannot ignore the startlingly accurate description of myself in what it means to be one, according to what I've read.

I very clearly feel more than others. I can see more than others, metaphorically speaking; with little effort, I might add. But I cannot say for certain whether this is because there's truly something called an "Empath", or simply because my childhood development shaped me this way.

Perhaps we're all capable of exercising what it means to be an "Empath". Some just choose not to, while others are less inclined to, due to their development, and the conditioning they have been subjected to throughout their lives. Who knows?

All I can say is that what I am, is not something easy to bear; and it never has been. So if it's a choice, so to speak, I can understand why many have blocked off the ability to choose to be one.

Last Edited by Sinclair on 05/28/2014 08:49 PM

This is exactly the way it went in my case! I also thought my childhood devolopment was responsible for the way I am. But in the end I figured that this wasn't the case. I guess the site you mentioned, which described you was
[link to theknowing1.wordpress.com]

This anyway was the site which I stumbled upon and which did describe me. Earlier in this thread I have linked a thread I made a year ago, after discovering about Empaths.

Last Edited by °Lucy° on 05/29/2014 06:22 AM

Sorry guys, I had a really busy afternoon and evening.

I have a new branch of the topic that I'd like to discuss if you have any input:

Several of us have speculated that children are often more open to empathic and other paranormal traits than adults. I wonder if all kids have this ability or if there are some who are particularly sensitive? Also, do you think that empathic kids have been studied/manipulated by TPTB over the years? I'm thinking in particular about gifted and talented programs in schools but I know that there are many other venues in which this sort of thing could happen.

Lol, you know that thread, right?
About whether you were in the gifted and talented program at school, primarily the first ones in Cali, I believe.

Some say the world just hardens children after awhile. They lose their innocence and learn to put up guards.
Others say that some kids develop empath properties because they grew up in a home in which the child had to read into family members that did not communicate much verbally or express emotion.
They could even pick it up from a parent or grandparent.

Edit to include referred thread:

Thread: Were You Part Of The "Mentally Gifted Minds" Program In California Scools back in the 70's?

I suspect I was one of the kids described in that thread, just not in CA. It's eerie some of the similarities of the weird stuff that happened in those programs all over the US.

My oldest didn't speak more than 3 or 4 words until he was almost two years old. I honestly didn't worry much about it because I always just knew what he needed. Eventually we took him to a speech-language pathologist on the recommendation of his pediatrician. They said he had a delay and gave me the name of a speech therapist to contact. That night I rocked him and worried to myself about what was wrong. The next day he started speaking. In full sentences.

:whoaa:

That's really, really interesting.

^^THIS in bold

It's the only way I can explain it...

I am very careful about who I tell what when I *feel* I know something...I have creeped many a people out :/

Mostly I stay to myself because it can be very overwhelming when I *feel* the zombies pain :/ it's like I get mad at them but then I *feel* how hard they have had it throughout their life...and not everyone is as strong as me...

It is the one thing that I try to keep as *sanitized* as possible...

Wait...

Me too...

This is interesting, I mean I AM caring, almost to a fault...but I would consider myself to be self-involved as well :/

Hmmm, is it because deep down we know we have something, some skill, that the others don't?

I don't want to derail so please don't respond to this part but curious to know what the ratio is of rh- empaths??

Very real.

I want to share Lucy's thread again.
It helped give me insight, too.
The only way I could think about it (before GLP, lol) was that I was kinda like that chic Deanna Troy in Star Trek :D

Thread: To all Empaths and those who dont know it yet

Another interesting note, IMO...
Some say they're really sensitive and it's (obviously) harder to deal with these sensations.
I personally am at ease with them for the most part. But I wonder...do some of us like to imbibe more in various vices because we realize how wonderful life could be (zoo oh, like Deanna Troy's mom? Lmao) OR because it dulls our perceptions to feeling people and people sensing the can open to us OR do we need those extra boosts from vices to get us "higher" from our already higher perceptions ?
Ex... Back in H.S. acid was a really great way for me to transcend beyond feeling people, etc. I never had a bad trip and I really, really enjoyed it.

Again...
:whoaa:

I don't drink alcohol anymore because it became a crutch to deal with stress. I've also struggled with opiate addiction.

Hmmmmm....
Yeah :(
I think my hub likes to counter my intuition with vino. Grrr.

With the exception of ages 16-24ish I dont really drink much either. I enjoy it when I do but I dont even have a drink every week.

Opiate addiction was a major problem for me in my youth too, that one was hard to get over.

Gave up cigarettes a year ago (Chantix is the greatest thing ever).

Still smoke 420 though.

Yes it's real.

Sometimes it's amazing, beautiful.... sometimes it's hell, feels like you're being 'infected', I'd guess an empath (without knowing they are) can be easy prey for those not with the best intentions.

I don't expect many empaths talk about it though, I'm a 60yr old male (and anonymous coward!) and have never mentioned it to my wife and kids and I don't think I will.

Went to a spiritualist church some time ago, the room was full of them lol.

Was told I was bipolar a gazillion years ago, maybe they're right, but I've always thought it's something else - has a great deal to do with not handling being an empath well I think.

Peace

I'm in process of quitting cigs, too, even though I just smoke 3-5 per day.


Lol, I dig your user name, TRAVERSE!!!!
You mollusk, you!

Perhaps a double edged sword, it gave me great artistic ability, the alcoholism I could have done without.

real :)

very real. The past few years I have opted to sleep alone, with my dogs, rather than with my husband. I sleep SO much better. Several times a week husband will crawl into the bed. It is not his physical movements that wake me. I will suddenly begin dreaming/thinking differently. It wakes me up. Happened just this morning. I woke up from something like a swirl of emotions. Looked over, saw husband, and said to myself, "Dear God, his mind is a mess".
Last summer the neighbor's messy mind would enter my dreams at night. After several nights I decided to have a talk with him. He was hurt/angry over his baby mama having a new boyfriend. Long story short, had to assist him in moving on mentally so I could get a good nights sleep.
Anyone else have sleep related situations?

My feeling is that a lot of people diagnosed with social anxiety disorder are actually empaths by nature.

It's no surprise how many people are guarded about the very substance of emotion.

People filter out a good measure of emotion and thought relay before they selectively choose what comes out of their mouths. To an empathy, what they've filtered is displayed by way of residual subtleties, and so (as an empathy) you're in a world with a lot of dishonest people to greater or lesser degrees.

So many people are numb to just how much bearing emotions have on communication.

Lol, and isn't it ironic...
Anyone out there that feel like the cold, stoic, ultra-reserved emotionless people...bug the crap out of you???


Edit...
No offense to anyone. It's just a pet peeve I suppose.

I don't recall my blood type, though I'll be finding out soon, just donated blood the other day, but I think I am +.

Also, I don't think of myself as an empath, and I don't see myself having something other people don't have. I really don't know what other people have. I only know what is going on with me.

Also... on a side note, this really is fairly cliche, but I do have the tendency to mess up computers. I'm fairly IT savvy, have worked internal tech support in an IT department of a major corp, as well as some tech related work at a major world firm, but if I get very excited, I can crash computers. And again, that is not a good thing, and has never worked to my benefit.

Have also, and again, saying this as neutrally as possible, this is no self aggrandizement, as to my knowledge, this has never benefited me, but I've had brief flashes of future events immediately before they've occurred, and have undoubtedly created certain random events with my thoughts alone. Haha, that sounds so funny, but it is what it is. All this has been of no use to me, just passing incidents throughout my life. And trust me, I've tried to use the force MANY times to bring the tv remote control to me, and it has never worked.

And yes, super blue eyed, with a bit of the ginger beard, 99.9% Northern European by genetic testing.

Its the opposite with me. I hate being center of attention, it makes me very uncomfortable. Sometimes I wish I could get rid of the motto "others first", but I just can't help it.
I am + blood type.


Oh, and to the red giver: You are wrong, every one is, in his very own way

Last Edited by °Lucy° on 05/29/2014 05:29 PM