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beeches
 User ID: 28167778 United States05/31/2014 09:46 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | learn to cook, sew, do repairs, and something else, like social media, event planning, haircutting . . funny how dowdy and silly Home Economics sounds, but it is back as Culinary Arts and Fashion Design (cooking and sewing as high school classes). Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face – Thomas Sowell |
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| beeches
User ID: 28167778 United States05/31/2014 09:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have learned about 1,000 skills Quoting: Astral Goat I guess you could call me a renaissance man A lot of people do get brainwashed Oh well, weak will be weak Hi AG! I was just about to karma pin this and it WAS red-pinned. Pinning threads is a useful skill too! Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face – Thomas Sowell |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 51933913  United Kingdom05/31/2014 09:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... and the educational system is going to make sure you don't learn any of them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58730072 You know that in college you don't even get to devote full-time study to relevant areas of your "field" until *maybe* your senior year (if you're lucky), most likely not until the final years of a graduate program. Until then you will be bogged down with at least 50% electives, 'humanities' courses, and similar useless crap. So you are like 22-24 years old now and you still have not been allowed to devote a full year to your skill! Think about that for a second... you could not screw up an educational system worse if you tried... and I guess that's the point. You think that is an accident? You think we couldn't have graduate level proficiency in a field by the time someone turns 18? Of course we could... just cut out all of the crap. It's all designed to be incredibly time-consuming and to make sure you really don't get good at anything... (not to mention there is probably a 90% chance your area of study is worthless to begin with) And of course while you're wasting your time with all of this nonsense, there are millions of real skills / trades / useful knowledge bases that you could be learning. Instead of the intellectual/practicality void of high school, you could be mastering several real skills by the time you turn 18, without a doubt. Instead you are being legally enforced to learn nonsense.. "social sciences", "history", propaganda, environmentalism, fairy-tales that you evolved from a fish, etc.... and then of course you are trained to believe you need to go through another 8 years of college to attain a worthwhile career... This couldn't possibly be by accident. If I was a social engineer I would be able to see right off that the western educational system is perfectly designed to consume time, and produce uselessness and a mountain of personal debt... What a joke.  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 33435073 United States05/31/2014 09:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have learned about 1,000 skills Quoting: Astral Goat I guess you could call me a renaissance man A lot of people do get brainwashed Oh well, weak will be weak Hi AG! I was just about to karma pin this and it WAS red-pinned. Pinning threads is a useful skill too! I try and learn something new every day! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 58068420 United States05/31/2014 09:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... and the educational system is going to make sure you don't learn any of them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58730072 You know that in college you don't even get to devote full-time study to relevant areas of your "field" until *maybe* your senior year (if you're lucky), most likely not until the final years of a graduate program. Until then you will be bogged down with at least 50% electives, 'humanities' courses, and similar useless crap. So you are like 22-24 years old now and you still have not been allowed to devote a full year to your skill! Think about that for a second... you could not screw up an educational system worse if you tried... and I guess that's the point. You think that is an accident? You think we couldn't have graduate level proficiency in a field by the time someone turns 18? Of course we could... just cut out all of the crap. It's all designed to be incredibly time-consuming and to make sure you really don't get good at anything... (not to mention there is probably a 90% chance your area of study is worthless to begin with) And of course while you're wasting your time with all of this nonsense, there are millions of real skills / trades / useful knowledge bases that you could be learning. Instead of the intellectual/practicality void of high school, you could be mastering several real skills by the time you turn 18, without a doubt. Instead you are being legally enforced to learn nonsense.. "social sciences", "history", propaganda, environmentalism, fairy-tales that you evolved from a fish, etc.... and then of course you are trained to believe you need to go through another 8 years of college to attain a worthwhile career... This couldn't possibly be by accident. If I was a social engineer I would be able to see right off that the western educational system is perfectly designed to consume time, and produce uselessness and a mountain of personal debt... What a joke. Boot the Unions out of the public schools... All they want is Socialist bots. NOTHING else matters to them. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 58068420 United States05/31/2014 09:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... and the educational system is going to make sure you don't learn any of them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58730072 You know that in college you don't even get to devote full-time study to relevant areas of your "field" until *maybe* your senior year (if you're lucky), most likely not until the final years of a graduate program. Until then you will be bogged down with at least 50% electives, 'humanities' courses, and similar useless crap. So you are like 22-24 years old now and you still have not been allowed to devote a full year to your skill! Think about that for a second... you could not screw up an educational system worse if you tried... and I guess that's the point. You think that is an accident? You think we couldn't have graduate level proficiency in a field by the time someone turns 18? Of course we could... just cut out all of the crap. It's all designed to be incredibly time-consuming and to make sure you really don't get good at anything... (not to mention there is probably a 90% chance your area of study is worthless to begin with) And of course while you're wasting your time with all of this nonsense, there are millions of real skills / trades / useful knowledge bases that you could be learning. Instead of the intellectual/practicality void of high school, you could be mastering several real skills by the time you turn 18, without a doubt. Instead you are being legally enforced to learn nonsense.. "social sciences", "history", propaganda, environmentalism, fairy-tales that you evolved from a fish, etc.... and then of course you are trained to believe you need to go through another 8 years of college to attain a worthwhile career... This couldn't possibly be by accident. If I was a social engineer I would be able to see right off that the western educational system is perfectly designed to consume time, and produce uselessness and a mountain of personal debt... What a joke. Boot the Unions out of the public schools... All they want is Socialist bots. NOTHING else matters to them. |
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User ID: 4706082 United States05/31/2014 09:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | learn to cook, sew, do repairs, and something else, like social media, event planning, haircutting . . Quoting: beeches funny how dowdy and silly Home Economics sounds, but it is back as Culinary Arts and Fashion Design (cooking and sewing as high school classes). It's amazing how simple skills have been lost. My kids come home from school and tell me all the funny videos they watch during their free time. Why do they have any? If they don't need a whole day, either enrich the curriculum or cut the hours. It takes an afternoon to learn to make jams and jellies. Same amount of time to get an education on how to run a pressure canner. Soap is incredibly easy to make. Why do we buy it? In three hours you can make enough soap to last for months. But now we have "Common Core" to make our educational system a bigger joke than it already is. Everyone is worth knowing. Everything is worth learning. You're never too good. You're never not good enough. |
| beeches
User ID: 28167778 United States05/31/2014 09:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have learned about 1,000 skills Quoting: Astral Goat I guess you could call me a renaissance man A lot of people do get brainwashed Oh well, weak will be weak Hi AG! I was just about to karma pin this and it WAS red-pinned. Pinning threads is a useful skill too! I try and learn something new every day! only way to go. I altered a prom dress and it was a major alteration. Used the internet to find out if the project was do-able, if the dress was alteration-friendly (it was). found advice for a particular problem . . . finished dress was very nice, lots of smiles and compliments for the girl wearing it. yet I am a so-so sewer - the internet is a huge help for learning life skills. I think we are in for a barter society. Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face – Thomas Sowell |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 53848324  Norway05/31/2014 09:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | whole education system is for you to know how stupid you are. how you are NOT going to acomplish anything in any skill. how there are many possibilities and youre not going to succeed in any of them. you will always be just a slave. by the end of your school everybody is asking themselves what tptb wants - wtf am i doing here. next comes the anwer - make money. and then youre their bitch. |
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| Citizenperth
User ID: 58707168  Australia05/31/2014 10:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's interesting isn't it.... Now they are telling children that they have to be life long learners as they will change careers at least 3-4 times in a life time? Why? Probably because they don't apprentice their dreams at 12-13 and follow it as a professional by the time they hit 18.... now they go half arsed... after 12-18 months of training they do tops 2 years... say they are bored and go back to train for something else because they forget the fact they are building up a mountain of debt.... use now pay later.... children of to day are after instant reward not... gt paid later... all this i learned after seeing an excellent conference by a neurological development dude from the States... he was good, but after thinking about it all, it makes sense, but is depressing... It's life as we know it, but only just. [link to citizenperth.wordpress.com] sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 57118003 United States05/31/2014 10:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... and the educational system is going to make sure you don't learn any of them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58730072 You know that in college you don't even get to devote full-time study to relevant areas of your "field" until *maybe* your senior year (if you're lucky), most likely not until the final years of a graduate program. Until then you will be bogged down with at least 50% electives, 'humanities' courses, and similar useless crap. So you are like 22-24 years old now and you still have not been allowed to devote a full year to your skill! Think about that for a second... you could not screw up an educational system worse if you tried... and I guess that's the point. You think that is an accident? You think we couldn't have graduate level proficiency in a field by the time someone turns 18? Of course we could... just cut out all of the crap. It's all designed to be incredibly time-consuming and to make sure you really don't get good at anything... (not to mention there is probably a 90% chance your area of study is worthless to begin with) And of course while you're wasting your time with all of this nonsense, there are millions of real skills / trades / useful knowledge bases that you could be learning. Instead of the intellectual/practicality void of high school, you could be mastering several real skills by the time you turn 18, without a doubt. Instead you are being legally enforced to learn nonsense.. "social sciences", "history", propaganda, environmentalism, fairy-tales that you evolved from a fish, etc.... and then of course you are trained to believe you need to go through another 8 years of college to attain a worthwhile career... This couldn't possibly be by accident. If I was a social engineer I would be able to see right off that the western educational system is perfectly designed to consume time, and produce uselessness and a mountain of personal debt... What a joke. And your point is?? If education weren't fucked up it would be out of step withe the rest of the commie assrape agenda. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 45762779 United States05/31/2014 10:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Great thread. People go to school for 12 years and do not even know how or what to eat correctly to have a balanced diet. They don't even know what a calorie is. You would think eating would be covered in 12 years of education. And what is worse, are the college grads. Spent a boatload of money , along with 4 years, and know slightly more , or the same as a high school grad. |
| Citizenperth
User ID: 58707168 Australia05/31/2014 10:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Great thread. People go to school for 12 years and do not even know how or what to eat correctly to have a balanced diet. They don't even know what a calorie is. You would think eating would be covered in 12 years of education. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45762779 And what is worse, are the college grads. Spent a boatload of money , along with 4 years, and know slightly more , or the same as a high school grad. the only people i see owning their own productive business are the people that went to trade college/ tafe, plumbers builders, fork lifts, bob cats, truckies... and they all on the whole seem happier than a lot of white collars... It's life as we know it, but only just. [link to citizenperth.wordpress.com] sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 55814583 United States05/31/2014 10:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My job is to help graduate and doctorate students with their research and experiments. I can tell you they have no idea what they are doing. They have no real skills. Most don't want to learn the basic skills they need to do their research. They just expect someone to do the skilled part that they will never learn for them. While I assemble and trouble shoot their research equipment, they want to ask me what football team I follow. WTF? I attend my gardens, rabbits, chickens, ducks, goats and cows when I get home. I have no time or desire to give a shit about adults playing kids games. The powers that be are teaching them something, it just doesn't apply in the real world. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 58315501 United States05/31/2014 11:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... and the educational system is going to make sure you don't learn any of them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58730072 You know that in college you don't even get to devote full-time study to relevant areas of your "field" until *maybe* your senior year (if you're lucky), most likely not until the final years of a graduate program. Until then you will be bogged down with at least 50% electives, 'humanities' courses, and similar useless crap. So you are like 22-24 years old now and you still have not been allowed to devote a full year to your skill! Think about that for a second... you could not screw up an educational system worse if you tried... and I guess that's the point. You think that is an accident? You think we couldn't have graduate level proficiency in a field by the time someone turns 18? Of course we could... just cut out all of the crap. It's all designed to be incredibly time-consuming and to make sure you really don't get good at anything... (not to mention there is probably a 90% chance your area of study is worthless to begin with) And of course while you're wasting your time with all of this nonsense, there are millions of real skills / trades / useful knowledge bases that you could be learning. Instead of the intellectual/practicality void of high school, you could be mastering several real skills by the time you turn 18, without a doubt. Instead you are being legally enforced to learn nonsense.. "social sciences", "history", propaganda, environmentalism, fairy-tales that you evolved from a fish, etc.... and then of course you are trained to believe you need to go through another 8 years of college to attain a worthwhile career... This couldn't possibly be by accident. If I was a social engineer I would be able to see right off that the western educational system is perfectly designed to consume time, and produce uselessness and a mountain of personal debt... What a joke. Can some tell me as a Chem major why the hell I have to take an English lit class?... |
| wk
User ID: 40337870 United States05/31/2014 11:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | learn to cook, sew, do repairs, and something else, like social media, event planning, haircutting . . Quoting: beeches funny how dowdy and silly Home Economics sounds, but it is back as Culinary Arts and Fashion Design (cooking and sewing as high school classes). You are so right. Just as a matter of life, I learned to knit, sew, cut hair, do basic repairs, work with my hands in all kinds of ways and never thought too much about it--it was just the expected thing and I enjoyed it. Lately, I have come to realize how wonderful it is that I learned those things. It was just a matter of what you did--but, lately, I have actually noticed that people think I'm skilled!!??? LOL It's kind of surprising that it is coming back "in" with a different name--these old fashioned parts of life. LOL violet |
| wk
User ID: 40337870 United States05/31/2014 11:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Great thread. People go to school for 12 years and do not even know how or what to eat correctly to have a balanced diet. They don't even know what a calorie is. You would think eating would be covered in 12 years of education. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45762779 And what is worse, are the college grads. Spent a boatload of money , along with 4 years, and know slightly more , or the same as a high school grad. I remember reading the John Jay was only like 14 or 16 when he was accomplished enough to be sent to France (or Britan) to help with the working out the details of the American treaty after the revolution. There is no way we would think a teenager could negotiate these days. I do think they should be far more capable than they are. The number of youths who were capable of great things was amazing in other eras--people like John Jay, David Livingstone, George Washington Carver, etc, etc. I know there were horrible problems with bigone eras and child labor also, so I am not trying to sugar coat it; but, it does show that more could happen if we raised the expectations and taught differntly. violet |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 57118003 United States05/31/2014 11:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... and the educational system is going to make sure you don't learn any of them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58730072 And of course while you're wasting your time with all of this nonsense, there are millions of real skills / trades / useful knowledge bases that you could be learning. Can some tell me as a Chem major why the hell I have to take an English lit class?... You shouldn't. But you should have to pass an English test. You know like me and a few other people don't want to listen to an illiterate fuck try to communicate his genius to the world. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 2518163  Canada05/31/2014 11:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Or are you just gonna scan a eyeball or X marks the spot when you go to sign a document? I don't know. Does anyone? Women and young girls these days don't cook at all, and that is extremely necessary if she is to survive. All it seems people know how to do anymore is work or spend money and buy useless shit. go figure. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 58315501 United States05/31/2014 11:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... and the educational system is going to make sure you don't learn any of them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58730072 And of course while you're wasting your time with all of this nonsense, there are millions of real skills / trades / useful knowledge bases that you could be learning. Can some tell me as a Chem major why the hell I have to take an English lit class?... You shouldn't. But you should have to pass an English test. You know like me and a few other people don't want to listen to an illiterate fuck try to communicate his genius to the world. True. Now if I could just get the genius part down. lol. Already had to take 2 English Comp classes. Seems like most genius scientists lack social/communication skills to some degree. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24470597 United States05/31/2014 11:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No I'm not posting something from that movie, but this thread topic combined with your quote have finally given me the last piece of the puzzle as to why I hate that movie so much. Seen it twice and always had a gut aversion to it, but just didn't get why. Like I was missing something. You nailed it. |
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