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Two 12-year-old girls carry out a plot to lure a friend into the woods, hold her down and stab her 19 times.

 
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I watched horror movies when I was a kid, Friday 13th, Halloween, you name it, and I never did that shit.
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Exactly. These kids are sick in the head, nothing more, nothing less


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so a young weak developing brain isn't influenced or corrupted by an increasingly Godless society that promotes and glorifies immoral behavior ?

times change and so do people .
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The brain does not distinguish between real acts and simulated acts. That is to say, witnessing something, even if it is acting on TV, has an effect upon the psyche, very similar or identical to actually doing the deed physically. Kids today are growing up while being constantly bombarded with violence and death and have been conditioned to regard such things as normal. Where in the past you might get in a fight and get a black eye or bloody nose, now you might get something far worse. Young minds have got to be protected from such things, yet a portion of society is pushing to indoctrinate and corrupt them with what they ought not even know exists. We have become the terminal generation.
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Yes, I get what you are saying....but I still don't buy it for as extreme as you are going. You know how many men this year alone got off for rape? Or other violent crimes and somehow get a very small sentence? The woman who pushed her new husband off that cliff got more time in jail than a man who raped and killed a mother and daughter. Its in the news. Woman are coming up with these crimes being easier to know about due to media and I dont see any of these women given a light pat on the butt and saying now ...dont do it again.....
There was the other story of that man who had raped a teenage girl and the judge told him he felt like he had been thru enough and didnt need a more severe punishment. You know what happened to the girl after? She killed herself.
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Well, as far as rape, at least half of all rape accusations are false nowadays, that's why men aren't convicted every time they go to court for rape. Women use false accusations of rape and sexual assault and domestic violence as weapons for revenge, regret, attention, profit and getting out of trouble. The man that was accused of raping the teenage girl, prob didn't even do it. That's too bad if he actually did, but it was prob consensual and statutory rape anyway, not literally forcing someone to have sex.

But you have all brought it on yourselves. False accusation by the truckload all the time and think nothing of it. That's why you're all grilled the second you report rape and no one believes you. I know not every women makes a false accusation, but what are women doing to end false accusations? Nothing. In fact they don't even admit they're real! Or even a problem. Feminists quote the 2% of rapes are false accusations, but as always with women it's a half truth- those are rape cases that made it all the way to court and were found to be false accusations. 98% of false accusations are caught in the investigation- WAAAAY before ever going to court and not going to court at all. And the real number is 40-50%!

That's what most people are too stupid to understand. And what do Feminists and women in general protest instead? Being able to dress like a slut. Slut Walks. I've come to the conclusion that without male guidance, women are just complete losers.
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When I was 12, I was busy reading books and thinking about holding hands with that one cute boy...and watching tv in the basement with my friends....

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Everytime I see this kind of news, first thing that comes to my mind is - how did the parents raise them? Did they go to church? Did they learn what moral is to human beings? Did no one teach them about heaven and hell? About sin? About consequences? About how not to be a biatch? Parents failed big time. And these kids should be tried as adults. 'Normal' kids do not do this 'abnormal-i-don't-even-have-the-heart-to-mention-it-thing'.
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They are acting out what they see on TV...

These are glorified...Witches and Autopsies.. are the leading prime group of Entertainment for prime time Cablevision.

this is sicko from prime time cablevision.. Hollywood creates stunning lighting and camera visuals, for are young influential minds...America culture of sickos.
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This is why....comment from link:

OK, I really want to know the character these girls were referencing on the internet, so we can know to prevent our children from accessing the material. Why are the police refusing to give details on the websites that inspired these killings, this is vital information.

OK, I did some research and found the answers. The police did in fact release the details. These girls were reading short stories on a horror site called Creepy Pasta Wiki ... the character they were fascinated with was the Slenderman and they somehow got it in their heads that he lived in a mansion in a nearby national park and they were told via this story that in order to become his proxy they were required to kill someone to prove their loyalty. Sheer madness.
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Re: Two 12-year-old girls carry out a plot to lure a friend into the woods, hold her down and stab her 19 times.
Whats the bets they were home schooled
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Sick story, but also a coded message- the number of 'stabs'? Who cares. There is more to this than just what it seems...
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This is what happens when babies and children are given all these BS shots.


Blame Big Farma



Kids are crazy now.
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Some people are just born bad.

These girls need to be locked up for life.

Well, at least one of them.

Chances are, one of the two is the thinker and the brains and the other is her little follower stooge.

Either way, they're both going to be a danger to society for the rest of their lives just because of the way their brains are wired.

Lock them up and throw away the key.
 Quoting: Em18966


This is pretty much how I feel about the situation, except I feel both girls are equally guilty.

The fact they researched this for months speaks volumes. What baffles me is how people like this find another like soul and agree to team up to commit murders. I find that REALLY weird. How do you even approach someone, "Hey, want to stab Becky to death in a few months?" I don't get how that even gets started.

I researched sociopaths years back trying to understand what my older brother had become. What I read back then is they are people born without a conscience, relating it to having a brain like swiss cheese - some pieces are just 'missing'.

As the OP stated herself, when I was 12 it was all about getting the homework done so I could go out and play, or play Barbie - certainly never a thought to hurt another human being in such a heinous manner.
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Re: Two 12-year-old girls carry out a plot to lure a friend into the woods, hold her down and stab her 19 times.
Reminds me of the murder of skylar neese who was stabbed to death by her two best friends. Look it up. Fuckin evil.
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Re: Two 12-year-old girls carry out a plot to lure a friend into the woods, hold her down and stab her 19 times.
12 fucking years old. Wow.
 Quoting: Psych


People are so caught up with chronological age.

Mental age is often way different.

And I am starting to believe that in our over-stimulated modern society kids are just mentally aging much, much faster.

Their brains are constantly stimulated from the time they are born - they know and understand things at age 5 that we wouldn't have been able to conceive of as teenagers, anymore.

You can't put all of this technological savvy into their brains and expect them to filter out reality and think like infants.

The brain doesn't work that way.

We're just programming them differently now.

But the bottom line is that you can't make an inherently 'good' child tie up and stab their classmate.

It won't happen.

Our goodness or lack thereof is something we are born with.

If these girls are willing and able to do the things they've done at the age of 12, they will never EVER be safe to be around.

They just wont.

They are smart, calculating and have inborn urges to hurt.
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I agree.
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Re: Two 12-year-old girls carry out a plot to lure a friend into the woods, hold her down and stab her 19 times.
"Oh, shut the fuck up asshat.

This isn't about male or female, this is about bad people.

How many male serial killers have there been?

How many little boys growing up stabbing small animals and 'accidentally' hurting and even killing kids littler than themselves who turned into killers?

Murder is predominantly a man's game, fuckwad."
 Quoting: SevenSantana



^^^^ tried to quote that dunno what happ...anyway,

that is pretty much fact. most violent crimes are done by males. yes women are getting up there but overall...
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LOL, just shows how ignorant you are. FEMALE SERIAL KILLERS AND MURDERERS:
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You're not paying attention or your little elevator doesn't go high enough (prob the latter). Men are convicted for murder and violent crimes far, FAR more than women, but women are just as violent as men.

Our society and legal system simply does not hold women accountable and they are above the law and when they are sentenced, it is only at a fraction of the same time for the same crime. Were you just born yesterday? That's why there is the ILLUSION that men are more violent.

The media likes to blow up and sensationalize male murder because females cannot be criticized or shown in a bad light either because advertisers are appealing mostly to women (women buy 85% of all of the frivolous, worthless consumer items)So our media AND our court system completely ignores females murderers, making them far more dangerous because they have no deterrents.

You do know what a deterrent is, don't you? You're not THAT stupid, are you? And you do understand WHY that would make someone more dangerous? I'll dumb it down so even you can understand: If someone knows they can murder and get away with it or just get a slap on the wrist, they might just do it. Knowing you'll go to prison for life stops men from murdering all the time.

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My reply:

I don't care what statistics site you pull out of your ass, the facts are the facts - when it comes to murders, men commit more than women hands down.

This is not just about sentencing, this is about the number of murders committed by men vs. the numbers committed by women.

I am not saying there are no female killers, but the numbers don't lie.

Do some research - when it comes to murders women commit about 10% overall compared to men's 90%.

Do women get lighter sentences when they commit murder? I'm sure it's a case by case thing - but the reason you don't see a ton of women on death row is that there aren't a shitload of women out there murdering people.


All of that aside, this case has NOTHING to do with gender and NOTHING to do with violent media.

Those things are bullshit cop-outs.

This looks like a classic case of one crazy and that crazy's henchman feeding off of one another and going for broke.

Both of these girls is equally dangerous, though, because regardless of who thought of it they both participated and if you have a mentality that allows you to be talked into stabbing someone you're always going to pose a threat to society.

There's no excuse for this, no outside influence that can be blamed.

Either you are born with the capacity for this kind of needless violence or you aren't.

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Good thing they were stopped now...before they grew up and became politicians!
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I bet they were getting into some form of occultism... they may even be victims of it...

google: satanic ritual abuse...

this is not uncommon, it is just rarely reported...
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Agreed, surprised to see a comment like this, but I'm pretty sure it was an occult crime.
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Strange days have tracked us down. Damn.
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Remember that episode of Cold Case where teenage girls murdered a classmate at a sleepover?
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Some people are just born bad.

These girls need to be locked up for life.

Well, at least one of them.

Chances are, one of the two is the thinker and the brains and the other is her little follower stooge.

Either way, they're both going to be a danger to society for the rest of their lives just because of the way their brains are wired.

Lock them up and throw away the key.
 Quoting: Em18966


This is pretty much how I feel about the situation, except I feel both girls are equally guilty.

The fact they researched this for months speaks volumes. What baffles me is how people like this find another like soul and agree to team up to commit murders. I find that REALLY weird. How do you even approach someone, "Hey, want to stab Becky to death in a few months?" I don't get how that even gets started.

I researched sociopaths years back trying to understand what my older brother had become. What I read back then is they are people born without a conscience, relating it to having a brain like swiss cheese - some pieces are just 'missing'.

As the OP stated herself, when I was 12 it was all about getting the homework done so I could go out and play, or play Barbie - certainly never a thought to hurt another human being in such a heinous manner.
 Quoting: hannah50


Oh, I believe they are definitely equally guilty whether one was leading and one was following or not.

In these types of cases when people work in pairs, there is just a general tendency toward one of them being dominant and the other more passive aggressive.
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I'll bet you they have black eyes and a blank stare. The Guff has been empty for about 20 years now, no new pure souls for those being born, so the demons are indwelling these little ones.
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I know what you say. You are so right.
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Well I know it wasn't you who held me down
Heaven knows it wasn't you who set me free
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Welcome to life in post Christian America.
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The further away from religion we travel, the worse we become. How sad...
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Where is the time these little shitheads would just play tag ?

the fuck ..
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It's Hannibal I'm pretty sure.

It's programming for the mind with already socio/psychopathic tendencies that legitimizes their thought processes.
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WTF is wrong with people???

I say, if they were big enough to commit the crime, big enough to admit it, and possibly charged as adults, then show the faces of these little twits.

They really need to learn a lesson and be used as example.

That's one of the problems...too many people getting away with crimes due to attorneys and sorry ass excuses.
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There are many flaws in the criminal justice system and one of the very worst is the assumption that children are innocent, incapable of evil intent. That is the stupidest conclusion imaginable, and recently children have been 'tried as adults' as people begin to reach the conclusion it is necessary. I've been a kid and I've seem what kids do to each other and to innocent creatures. I've seen them bully, torment and assault younger weaker kids, I've even seen a kid stomp a kitten to death after sticking a screwdriver up it's behind. I've seen a 10 year old coax a three year old into the middle of a busy highway because he was jealous.

It makes me want to slap the shit out of someone who says "oh, a little kid wouldn't do that" , or " a kid doesn't lie". Gee whiz, it would be nice to believe kids are innocent but they're not. They plot and have evil intents and KNOW what they're doing as wrong. A rotten adult grows up out of a rotten kid.

Imagine if one of these two evil little girls had seduced a young man. The courts would act as if the child was innocent and the man should have known better. Well, he should have but both he and the girl are EQUALLY guilty as far as I am concerned. i reject the notion that a kid doesn't know right from wrong and cannot just say no and not do something wrong.

What I propose is the law be equitably applied. If kids are innocent they won't do evil things, and the ones that do 'adult' misdeeds should be punished just like an adult would be. If a kid stabs another kid and injures them when he is 12, by the time he's 14 he'll be killing someone and concealing guilt. We also need to come to terms with the reality that children are capable of and do engage in deceptions that they know are wrong for their own personal reasons.A child knows right from wrong. Even a two year old understands it is wrong to hurt or kill an innocent creature. I remember the guilt I felt ACCIDENTALLY stepping on a frog and seeing it's insides come out of it's mouth, and I was less than two. I also remember seeing other kids construct complex deceptions in order to cover up misdeeds or get what they want, and tell outright lies they knew were going to badly hurt someone else. these two girls should be charged with attempted murder and incarcerated for the same period of time an adult would. They knowingly did evil. They knew what they were doing.
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I'm not even going to waste time on this. I'm sure there is ZERO PROOF this ever happened.

Stop being a tool.

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Some people are just born bad.

These girls need to be locked up for life.

Well, at least one of them.

Chances are, one of the two is the thinker and the brains and the other is her little follower stooge.

Either way, they're both going to be a danger to society for the rest of their lives just because of the way their brains are wired.

Lock them up and throw away the key.
 Quoting: Em18966


This is pretty much how I feel about the situation, except I feel both girls are equally guilty.

The fact they researched this for months speaks volumes. What baffles me is how people like this find another like soul and agree to team up to commit murders. I find that REALLY weird. How do you even approach someone, "Hey, want to stab Becky to death in a few months?" I don't get how that even gets started.

I researched sociopaths years back trying to understand what my older brother had become. What I read back then is they are people born without a conscience, relating it to having a brain like swiss cheese - some pieces are just 'missing'.

As the OP stated herself, when I was 12 it was all about getting the homework done so I could go out and play, or play Barbie - certainly never a thought to hurt another human being in such a heinous manner.
 Quoting: hannah50


Oh, I believe they are definitely equally guilty whether one was leading and one was following or not.

In these types of cases when people work in pairs, there is just a general tendency toward one of them being dominant and the other more passive aggressive.
 Quoting: Em18966


I can totally accept that assessment.
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We will never be forgiven for what we are allowing our children to become in these, our darkest days. God help us.
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these children where brainwashed by a satanic website
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They are acting out what they see on TV...

These are glorified...Witches and Autopsies.. are the leading prime group of Entertainment for prime time Cablevision.

this is sicko from prime time cablevision.. Hollywood creates stunning lighting and camera visuals, for are young influential minds...America culture of sickos.
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And if they were 6 years older it would have been because they were evil. Is it that hard for people to admit that some are just born that way?
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these children where brainwashed by a satanic website
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"They explained to police that they'd regularly visited an internet site that carried horror and murder stories, and they figured that a real murder would win them favor with a fictional web site character they believed to be real."


They were demonically possessed by this crap.

All you blind people who think mainstream entertainment promoting witchcraft and satanism is no big deal...

And this story would have been covered up if law enforcement could help it. It is well known that satanic rituals like this go way under-reported.
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Re: Two 12-year-old girls carry out a plot to lure a friend into the woods, hold her down and stab her 19 times.
Ridiculous cop out.

Some people are just born bad.

These girls need to be locked up for life.

Well, at least one of them.

Chances are, one of the two is the thinker and the brains and the other is her little follower stooge.

Either way, they're both going to be a danger to society for the rest of their lives just because of the way their brains are wired.

Lock them up and throw away the key.
 Quoting: Em18966

Some people are just born bad???
WRONG...its the choices we make that determine Good or Bad.

Locked up for life???
WRONG...I'm sure hard working taxpaying individuals don't want to pay for some punk kid for the rest of his/her life. An Eye for an Eye...get rid of the garbage!





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