Anybody here into Astral projection?

The vibes are usually a sign of being pretty close to seperating. I'd say stick with it, see where it goes. It's pretty freaky, but addictive.

The scary part was that I felt like my heart was pounding waaaaay too fast and strong, like I had just finished a mile run or something. Very peculiar, and yes, I will keep trying.

you will feel a tingling all over before your body becomes numb, thats normal. Then the numbness will get to your brain as the brainwaves slow right down. You will feel very peacfull and disconnected. Some people thing that they will die or their heart will stop,, this is nonsens,, you enter such deep relaxation every night during deep sleep only your not normaly concious of it.

had an experience once. Hard to quntify it with christian standards,; my christian friends say it's a bad thing.
Regardless, I was at my girlfriends house some 6 years ago. Hot day in June, sitting on her patio, Iwas relasxing with my eyes closed. I wasn't sleeping but all of a sudden I saw myself flying over extremely greenfields. I thought to myself it seemed like some rural area of Scotland. I saw a crowd of children below me waving and laughing and I waved at them and delighted in the ssensation of flying above them. All of a sudden I was brought back to reality by the shouts of my girlfriend. I looked at her puzzled and she was shocked. She told me she was freaked out because I was sitting there like in a trance and that my body was vibrating. She thought I was having a seizure. To me it was like I closed my eyes for a second and she said I was doing this for 5-10 minutes.....riddle me this batman....

That’s not good – but it is progress! Though, you don’t want to end up projecting yourself into 'hell', now do you

Stay positive when you attempt astral projection. Think happy thoughts - like puppies and marshmallows or whatever...

You know that horror movie 'They'? My 'personal' astral experiences have only ever projected me into places like that. At the time, I wasn’t staying very positive. In short - I wasn’t ready to be doing things like that.

What would be the consequence of projecting into an "evil" place? You can't very well get stuck there. No harm, no foul.

Right?

gideon,

I had a similar experience once, the impetus for my interest in this area.

I was lying in bed one afternoon (this was several years ago) and suddenly felt like I was unable to move. My limbs, my body simply paralyzed and I (soul/ego/whatever) shot upwards through my roof and into the sky. I literally found myself floating above my neighborhood in the midday sun. becoming quite scared I wished to return back and entered into my body as quickly as I had left. I was fully awake at the time and the experience was definitely not a dream. So what was it?

I've tried to find an explanation. This has led me to study AP to see if I could somehow will myself to do it again. I'm still trying to duplicate the experience since it was so fantastic. No luck yet, but I'm practising and getting closer I think.

No 'consequence', but if/when a demon spots you - you’d better run for your sweet life… Its happened to me, though it came back with me using some kind of 'portal'. It landed up right in my bed! I almost died because of it.
It wasnt just any demon - this guy was pretty powerful.

See this is basically astral projection. Astral travel is different. Astral travel would really freak you out.
You’re quite loose in your body it seems But thats a good thing!

Obey......were you lucid through the whole experience? I felt completely awake, almost felt better than usual...weird stuff, eh?

It's OK. Welcome to

What's the difference? I thought they were one and the same, but I'm new at this ya know.

They can be frightening experiences to what I suppose is our ego that, as I've read, recalls birth and fears death.

With my limited experiences of about a dozen, I never encountered anything negative other than my own fear, likely due to the shock to my belief structure at the time (of what I thought reality was) witnessed.

I recall reading that one should keep the body covered due to a temperature drop, though I don't know if that's true.

I'm of the belief that we all do 'it' nightly anyway - usually unconscious of it happening - and only the 3D vehicle requires rest.

As for the sound associated with it, I do recall an increase whirring or buzzing that seem to emanate from the protruding bones - whatever they are called - just behind both ears, just prior to projecting.

In the astral state, everything that felt like 'me' was there and the physical body seemed akin to a mannequin.

Meanwhile, the astral body, though have a feeling of also being physical, struck me as a sort of a self-contained electrical plasma and was able to expand and contract in size.

I've read people see a 'silver cord' that connects to the body, however, I never saw one.

Travel, meanwhile, struck me as being pretty much at the 'speed of thought'.

Hope I've been of some help,

BMG

P.S. And, yes, on every 'return', there seemed to be a short paralysis of sorts where I found I could not move nor even make a sound. It seemed to last approximately 20-30 seconds.

Oh yeah. Totally awake and feeling especially good at the time. It still blows my mind when I think about it.

It’s all good so long as you know what you’re doing.
I don’t do any astral work. When I need to be 'adjusted' or receive new energies - my guides usually put me is an astral state - where I shut down and it sounds and sometimes feels like I’m right in the centre of a 747 jet engine multiplied by 10.
I don’t recommend exploring out of curiosity - you know what happened to the cat.

Octopus: No, you can't get stuck in an "evil" place... but you most certainly can bring something back with you.

Most of my shamanic/astral travels have been extremely positive, as I went in with pure and selfless intentions. But the one time I went in with less-than-pure intentions (I meant well, but the tone was "confrontational" and had an egoic component to it that I didn't realize the significance of beforehand), I went to a plane that I absolutely did not belong, and the inhabitants there let me know in no uncertain terms that I was now on "their turf". In effect, it was me invading their home, and because it was my own imperfect intentions that brought me there, it was not a free will violation; I had effectively voluntarily made myself powerless in their space.

And as a result, they gave me a little "present" to remind me never to visit there again; I could travel to other planes all I like (possible when my intentions were pure), but their plane was off limits or the next time I wouldn't get off so easily.

I was home laid up in bed sick for the next two weeks, suffering from not one, but two different infections in different areas of my body, at the same time. I had to be on three different sets of antibiotics to get rid of it all. The doctor said the likelyhood of me getting both of these problems at the same time was a serious dose of "bad luck", but I didn't say anything, because I knew better.

Do not fuck around with journeys to alternate planes unless you know exactly what your intentions are and that those intentions are driven by the good of the Infinite One rather than the good of your own small separated egoic self. Unless you clearly and obviously know the difference, and are able to make your intentions clear on a spiritual and emotional level rather than just mental/verbal (don't try talking yourself into thinking intentions are good when they're not; your ability to bullshit doesn't travel well), this is not something you should take lightly.

Astral projection and shamanic journeying are extremely powerful tools, but like all powerful tools they can result in great good or great evil, for yourself and for others. Make sure you know which you will follow before travelling, because in this arena, your intention and your destination are one and the same.

About half a year ago I Had been practicing the Merkaba-Breathing-Techniques relying on Drunvalo Melchizedek(you can find them in the net).
One evening I was lying in bed and
repeting in my thoughts for a couple of dozen times only the word :Merkaba.

All of a sudden my body paralyzed.
I found myself stnading in the room and looking in direction to my bed,but couldnt see my body there.

I didnt panic but was trying to put on the ligths- Ireally felt the dimmer in my right hand and moved it but it remained dark.

As I wanted to go in the kitchen to turn on the lights there I suddenly found myself In my bed again.

Yeah, that basically describes what I felt the other night. A buzzing, almost like an electrical charge. Then I felt like my body went ice cold in an instant. I began to feel a disassociative kind of seperation that felt like death. That combined with the sense that "This shouldn't be happening" caused me to freak out and snap out of it.

How to get over that fear...I dunno.

You seem to be pretty experienced in this area. Can I ask you what i should be looking for? I mean, do you see these other planes in the same way you see physical reality with your eyes? Do the beings speak and communicate as we speak to other people in daily life?

I just want to get an idea of what to expect if I'm succesful at AP, which I think may happen soon.

You use the same energy in astral projection as you do in normal life. Thus if you have an active sex life this may drain your energy level for astral projection.
Using alcohol beforehand can cause problems too.
If you get too much fear or bad vibes, better to give it up for now.

BTW, I enter into this for strictly shamanic purposes. At least I think so. I really am convinced I'm going into it for knowledge and understanding rather than personal gain or other ulterior motives.

During astral travel, time disappears, and you can glide along.. it... Its esoteric for me to explain... I suck at explaining!
Don’t try this – but astral travel I guess you could say, is changing your ‘density’ or frequency in order to experience different dimensions/spectrums and entities.

Astral projection is more like a peek (projection) into another.. 'plane’ You’re basically exploring the place of imagination… Imagination is not what you think it is. Astral projection is like shifting your perception into another 'place'.

Knowledge and understanding are naturally attained through almost any journey. Your reasoning must be more pure...

I actually felt good vibes when it was happening. Like something was encouraging me to go on and not be afraid. I think my own ego thinking that it went against logic or something caused me to be afraid.

For a few moments though I felt that I was something beyond human, and "welcomed" into another space or identity....strange.

Just be careful who you trust during this stage. There are some extremely cunning 'villains' out there.

How would I know which ones are there to harm me?

Anything specific I should look out for?

Octopus,

From my experience, you don't see in the same way you see physical reality... it's more like the way you see in a dream, except that you're lucid from the getgo (which gives the experience a very different quality from a normal dream). So just like a dream, there's a lot of "ebb and flow" to the visceral aspects of these planes, the difference is that you're still conscious while you're there.

And I understand that you're going in with shamanic purposes; that's a good thing. The thing is, shamanic insight and curiosity is not specific enough an intention (the comment above about curiosity killing the cat is very, very apropos here).

I'm not trying to scare you away; far from it. This is an absolutely wonderful thing to be participating in. But your intentions must not only be good, they must be *specific*, because they will guide your higher self during your travels. Exploratory journeys should only be done at the most minimal of levels, with a clear intention that you're going to the edge a given alternate plane (such as the lower world of the subconscious, or the upper world of the superconscious) but *not contacting anyone there and not stepping foot in it*, rather just standing at the entryway and looking around at the landscape (this is actually a very good kind of journey to do when you're first starting, because it's non-invasive both to you and the inhabitants of the other plane(s)).

But for anything past that point, when you actually intend to go *into* one of these alternate planes, you need to be very specific... what are you looking to accomplish, who are you intending to meet, what will be the character of the overall experience, what if anything do you want changed about yourself when you return, etc. Be as specific as you possibly can, and before you travel, don't just think all of this with words (mental thoughts don't generally carry into solid intentions), but *visualize* all of these intentions. Visualize yourself learning what you intend to learn, visualize how you will be and feel when you're back, etc. You need to put these intentions out there before you start, and you need to spend almost as long on this pre-visualization process as you do on the actual journey. It's *that important*.

Fortunately, if your intentions are clear and you "put them out there" in this way, then once you've done so, you can (and infact, must) let go. As long as you're visualizing an intention, it's still "in the oven" and hasn't finished cooking; you have to let it go and stop focusing on it afterwards, in order to let it out of the oven so that the universe can have a taste. So get your intentions clear, concentrate hard on them, and then when you're done, relax and give the universe your gratitude for taking care of you and making your intentions into reality (gratitude given beforehand is very, very helpful). Then sit back and journey, and you'll be okay.

Think of it this way... on alternate planes, anything, literally anything, can happen, and events there can affect your future here. So you have to make a conscious choice of what your reality is going to be, both during the journey and after. As long as you do that, you'll be fine. Nobody on the alternate planes (even the evil spirits) can violate your free will, as long as you make your intentions known as an exercise of that will (and likewise, for reasons I'm sure you understand by now, never make an intention that involves the violation of anyone else's free will... or that rule will be broken on both sides and all bets are off on what might happen).

The shamanic path is a wonderful one to follow, but it's serious business. Treat it with the respect it deserves, and you'll have nothing to fear.

See this is why you cant just dive into it...
You need to learn to use your heart...
You can use your heart to detect these things.
You will be easily tricked if you don’t have this ability.


Practice by saying something TRUE - like 'I love you' to someone you love deeply - and notice what happens in your heart.
Then try saying something that is UNTRUE - like, 'I don’t find you attractive' to someone you adore - notice what happens.