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Gun homicides down dramatically, Americans unaware

 
HundredthMonkey

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"TYLER, TX (KLTV) -
It seems there is something in the news every day about gun violence. The recent mass shooting in Isla Vista, California, a movie theater riddled with bullets in Colorado, children and teachers gunned down at school in Connecticut, and the list goes on. While you may be seeing more and more shooting, the fact is, overall gun homicide rates have dropped dramatically over the past two decades, according to a recent study.

More than half of Americans believe gun violence has increased over the past two decades, but what you’re watching on the news, may be skewing your view.

That recent study said compared to 1993, the peak of US gun homicide, the rate was 49 percent lower in 2010, even though the population had grown. In other words, fewer people are dying by guns.

Assaults, robberies, and sex crimes also went down by 75 percent in 2011. Perhaps images from shooting crime scenes seem all too familiar, but perhaps the attention to gun violence in recent months has caused more Americans to be unaware that gun crimes are actually markedly lower than they were two decades ago."

[link to www.kltv.com]
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That fact is not surprising at all, but it is surprising to see a news outlet saying it.
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Death from gun related crime is down from say 20+ years ago. We have superior trauma treatment vs 20, 30+ years ago; oeople would died back then often live today.
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Yes, the media wants us to think it is worse. We can stop school shootings by posting guards I think. As a taxpayer, I say do it. The egg is on their face by not trying this simple solution.
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for all monkeys to know and tell others!
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Re: Gun homicides down dramatically, Americans unaware
"TYLER, TX (KLTV) -
It seems there is something in the news every day about gun violence. The recent mass shooting in Isla Vista, California, a movie theater riddled with bullets in Colorado, children and teachers gunned down at school in Connecticut, and the list goes on. While you may be seeing more and more shooting, the fact is, overall gun homicide rates have dropped dramatically over the past two decades, according to a recent study.

More than half of Americans believe gun violence has increased over the past two decades, but what you’re watching on the news, may be skewing your view.

That recent study said compared to 1993, the peak of US gun homicide, the rate was 49 percent lower in 2010, even though the population had grown. In other words, fewer people are dying by guns.

Assaults, robberies, and sex crimes also went down by 75 percent in 2011. Perhaps images from shooting crime scenes seem all too familiar, but perhaps the attention to gun violence in recent months has caused more Americans to be unaware that gun crimes are actually markedly lower than they were two decades ago."

[link to www.kltv.com]
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The fact is Sandy Hook, Isla Vista and Las Vegas are all hoaxes. It amazes me more people haven't opened their eyes to the Sandy Hook thing. What's even more amazing is how anybody could actually believe Isla Vista fucking happened.
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Death from gun related crime is down from say 20+ years ago. We have superior trauma treatment vs 20, 30+ years ago; oeople would died back then often live today.
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So what I get from that is we are less accurate with our shooting skills now?
I'm tired of waiting, somebody push the damn button already!

Keep your 72 virgins, give me one old biker chick.
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Well, that just proves that gun control laws are starting to work, but more laws are needed to lower gun homicides even more!
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Death from gun related crime is down from say 20+ years ago. We have superior trauma treatment vs 20, 30+ years ago; oeople would died back then often live today.
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To some extent, that's true, but its worth noting that the steep decline in the homicide rate also coincides with steep declines in overall violent crime rates. In other words, the decline in the homicide rate is largely not due to better treatment. Its an actual reduction in violent crime and homicides.
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Well, that just proves that gun control laws are starting to work, but more laws are needed to lower gun homicides even more!
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Well, that just proves that gun control laws are starting to work, but more laws are needed to lower gun homicides even more!
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Well, that just proves that gun control laws are starting to work, but more laws are needed to lower gun homicides even more!
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On the contrary, the decrease in the homicide and violent crime rates have coincided with a period of widespread proliferation of concealed carry laws throughout the country AND a huge surge in gun sales and nearly three times as many yearly background checks for firearm purchases as in 1998.
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Re: Gun homicides down dramatically, Americans unaware
Death from gun related crime is down from say 20+ years ago. We have superior trauma treatment vs 20, 30+ years ago; oeople would died back then often live today.
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then too, guns have been flying off the shelves…indicating more guns in the hands of honest people means less crime from the dishonest peeps...
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Death from gun related crime is down from say 20+ years ago. We have superior trauma treatment vs 20, 30+ years ago; oeople would died back then often live today.
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then too, guns have been flying off the shelves…indicating more guns in the hands of honest people means less crime from the dishonest peeps...
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Maybe it's also because you have an incarceration rate that went through the roof. Or maybe a mix of those three things.

Whatever the reasons, good news.
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Death from gun related crime is down from say 20+ years ago. We have superior trauma treatment vs 20, 30+ years ago; oeople would died back then often live today.
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then too, guns have been flying off the shelves…indicating more guns in the hands of honest people means less crime from the dishonest peeps...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57933207


Maybe it's also because you have an incarceration rate that went through the roof. Or maybe a mix of those three things.

Whatever the reasons, good news.
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Maybe, but the prison system is full of nonviolent pissant drug offenders, so I'm not sure that explains it.
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Re: Gun homicides down dramatically, Americans unaware
On a related note:
[link to www.truthrevolt.org]
Anti-gun protest fails again. Drew a crowd of 12. Wonder how many of the 12 were media? (surprised this got reported)

Last Edited by Sikhed on 06/12/2014 10:17 AM
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Re: Gun homicides down dramatically, Americans unaware
Death from gun related crime is down from say 20+ years ago. We have superior trauma treatment vs 20, 30+ years ago; oeople would died back then often live today.
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All violent crime is down, though, so it's not just related to guns.
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Probably something to do with the 2m+ that are locked up
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Prison population has doubled in the same time frame.

A win for law enforcement?
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Well, that just proves that gun control laws are starting to work, but more laws are needed to lower gun homicides even more!...
sorry i shit myself when i read that...
what a fucking moron!!


here is real deal....memphis tn...has 85 car jackings a day on average....not a single one is from mississippi...why? concealed carry!!! criminals are feral not stupid!!!


want to look at real gun crime data?...see Kennesaw, Georgia

enough said! no violent crime...everyone is required to have a gun...you dont have feral pieces of shit running the streets for fear of death
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Re: Gun homicides down dramatically, Americans unaware
Much, much higher incarceration rates. Also, massive amounts of downgrading and even disappearing the violent crime stats or "pushing" them over into the next quarter ad infinitum. AC is also correct in stating trauma units are far more advanced than they were even ten years ago.

This also needs repeating, section 8/HUD has allowed the undertow to spread out from their traditional 'hoods/bottoms and barrios. The Ghetto is being transplanted throughout rural and suburban white america. Allowing the "Unz" eloi some measure of protection from the morlocks in their gentrified neighborhoods.
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Well, that just proves that gun control laws are starting to work, but more laws are needed to lower gun homicides even more!
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Re: Gun homicides down dramatically, Americans unaware
The video below is Eric Holder in 1995 as a US attorney speaking about how he wants to "brainwash people into thinking about guns in a vastly different way".

Now he runs the entire Justice department and his boss has appointed others like him to do the same thing.




Longer 3 minute video for full context

[link to www.youtube.com]
"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
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The video below is Eric Holder in 1995 as a US attorney speaking about how he wants to "brainwash people into thinking about guns in a vastly different way".

Now he runs the entire Justice department and his boss has appointed others like him to do the same thing.




Longer 3 minute video for full context

[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Resister


Well, DAMN... end of story. This is all I needed to see.
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Re: Gun homicides down dramatically, Americans unaware
The video below is Eric Holder in 1995 as a US attorney speaking about how he wants to "brainwash people into thinking about guns in a vastly different way".

Now he runs the entire Justice department and his boss has appointed others like him to do the same thing.




Longer 3 minute video for full context

[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Resister


Well, DAMN... end of story. This is all I needed to see.
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Speaks volumes doesn't it? Just remember when we drag these fuckers out of office screaming and kicking, to kick them in the head with your steel toed boots for interrupting your lifestyle.
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Re: Gun homicides down dramatically, Americans unaware
That fact is not surprising at all, but it is surprising to see a news outlet saying it.
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Agreed. "An armed society is a polite society."

Since 1993, the number of states which have a reasonable and and consistent means of concealed carry has more than doubled. In 1993, neither NC nor SC offered any lawful mechanism for a citizen to carry a firearm concealed. None. Period. Your choice was *open carry* or nothing, and open carry can make people very uncomfortable. Thus, not many people will consistently open carry.

Now, both states have "Shall Issue" laws - meaning that, within a specific amount of time from you application for a concealed carry permit, *unless they find a criminal conviction or an adjudication of mental incompetence*, they shall issue said permit for you to carry concealed. It's automatic. Your mayor or sheriff can't decide to withhold your permit because they don't like your skin color, or your politics, or your line of work.

This is a substantial improvement over the previously pervasive "may issue" laws, which gave the Sheriff, mayor, or some other official the discretionary power to issue or withhold a permit based upon their own requirements and opinions...

So yes, it fits that rape and robbery are also happening at much lower rates - today more people lawfully own guns, and more people are lawfully carrying guns, than has ever been the case before.
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YOU, and only YOU are responsible for maintaining the balance of power between you and the rest of the semi-sentient beings in this world. You cannot disclaim or delegate that responsibility; it is a function of being a living, breathing "adult" in this world. If you can't manage yourself on those terms, someone else *will* manage you on their terms. Your terms are irrelevant. Buy a rifle; prepare to defend yourself. If you don't, what happens is *your* fault. Period.
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Re: Gun homicides down dramatically, Americans unaware
We haven't heard about this statistic because it doesn't profit the anti-gun freaktoids.

The ultimate goal of the left and the shadow government PTB is to disarm the populous. This statistic doesn't fit into that agenda. And since the media is owned by the enemy, there you go..
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Well, that just proves that gun control laws are starting to work, but more laws are needed to lower gun homicides even more!
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retards2

They've been dropping since 93', not since the nazi Obama laws.
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Death from gun related crime is down from say 20+ years ago. We have superior trauma treatment vs 20, 30+ years ago; oeople would died back then often live today.
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