Is FUKUSHIMA an ELE ? | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77485154 United States 06/02/2019 11:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | IMHO...YES. Quoting: The Old Timer I worked for the AEC for 30+ years.....I would like to think otherwise but.....what happened can not ever in 100 lifetimes be reversed. It will be slow....but as sure as the sun rises it will contaminate the entire planet......in less than 100 years for sure. My wife has found me crying from time to time......when I think about my beautiful grandchildren and what they face........we crapped out this time my friends thank you now - what CAN we do for our children? miso/seaweed diet? baking soda/ epsom salt baths? iodine? or is it time to move south of the border? we have been noticing thinning hair in our area -both our selves and people in our daily environment. have other symptoms of low level radiation. any more wisdom for us. blessings to you and your family. I am doing my best to love my own and live each day as if it were my last.... |
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User ID: 77416429 United States 06/02/2019 11:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can I get some seriously minded non-trolls opinions please !! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56039511 I can't see how it is not an ELE ... no practical solutions to this mess IMHO ... Yes, it is... Nobody talks about it because they know there isn't a damn thing they can do about it. The Pacific ocean is dying..... Ask Alice when she's 10ft tall This is a battle for the future of civilization. If free speech is lost even in America, tyranny is all that lies ahead. Elon Musk |
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User ID: 77416429 United States 06/02/2019 11:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ummmm...WTF are they doing? Storing vast quanitities of Nuclear Waste a hundred yards from the ocean. Next Tsunami will take all of that out to sea. IS that what they are wanting because there’s no other explanation. Common sense says don’t do what they are doing. Just for show...the thing is dumping hundreds of tons of radioactive water into the ocean every day.... Ask Alice when she's 10ft tall This is a battle for the future of civilization. If free speech is lost even in America, tyranny is all that lies ahead. Elon Musk |
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User ID: 77416429 United States 06/02/2019 12:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think Fukishima has far more reaching results than Chernobyl did. Quoting: CanadaIn NIC Chernobyl didn't see seafood and a major food source for the world contaminated after all.. As to release of material, not sure.. Chernobyl might have released more... Thing about the Chernobyl meltdown was they actually tried to put it out and did finally get control over it. Japan isn't doing shit and the rest of the world is ignoring it. I know ... and the world's lack of effort to help makes me suspect that it truly is an ELE and there is not much that can be done before the mutations and cancers start rearing their ugly heads. It's not a lack of effort, we simply do not have the technology to even get close to the melted cores, much less to remove it from it's location. Remember the robot that was supposed to let em find the melted core? It lasted less than an hour before it was trashed! If they can't even find the core, how are they ever going to remove it? Simple...they can't. Ask Alice when she's 10ft tall This is a battle for the future of civilization. If free speech is lost even in America, tyranny is all that lies ahead. Elon Musk |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 55624212 United States 06/02/2019 12:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are they even doing anything to clean up and contain anymore or did they just throw their hands up and quit? Quoting: Lou Czar They're doing what they can at this point, I believe. Reactors 2 and 3 were critical for at least 1.4 years after the initial explosions. Presumably, there's no more criticality in the coria, though there's massive high level residual radiation. At least the most severely damaged #4 fuel pool is empty and the others are being dismantled and sorted out. I'm just guessing that the total UO2 in the containment buildings of the four reactors was around 1000 Tons. Correct me if you have a better number. Unit 3's spent fuel is scheduled for removal by March 2021. Work on that project started around March of 2016, so it's a five year project. Nothing in nuclear decommissioning happens quickly. There's more that can be done and more that should have been done, but we have no influence on them. The Japanese government has some control over TEPCO, but we don't. |
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User ID: 77585373 United States 06/02/2019 12:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are they even doing anything to clean up and contain anymore or did they just throw their hands up and quit? Quoting: Lou Czar They're doing what they can at this point, I believe. Reactors 2 and 3 were critical for at least 1.4 years after the initial explosions. Presumably, there's no more criticality in the coria, though there's massive high level residual radiation. At least the most severely damaged #4 fuel pool is empty and the others are being dismantled and sorted out. I'm just guessing that the total UO2 in the containment buildings of the four reactors was around 1000 Tons. Correct me if you have a better number. Unit 3's spent fuel is scheduled for removal by March 2021. Work on that project started around March of 2016, so it's a five year project. Nothing in nuclear decommissioning happens quickly. There's more that can be done and more that should have been done, but we have no influence on them. The Japanese government has some control over TEPCO, but we don't. Thank you! I am a meat popsicle. And the Devil's Uncle. *Mostly* Harmless. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76946058 United States 06/02/2019 12:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is Fukushima an ELE ? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56039511 ELE=Extinction Level Event If not, what do you see preventing it from being an ELE? If yes, how long do we Northern Hemisphere folk have left ? Thanks for all opinions !!! I've once heard it said that in the ocean, radiation is leaked via natural/volcanic activity in quantities that far exceed this accident. However, I've not got an actual source. It seems plausible to me considering 2/3rds of earth is covered by ocean and deep down, we know very little about what goes on there. On the surface we see similar. Don't get me wrong, I think Fukushima is bad and will create a dent but will that cascade in to an ELE, probably not. I think life is far more resilient and adaptive. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 55624212 United States 06/02/2019 12:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think Fukishima has far more reaching results than Chernobyl did. Quoting: CanadaIn NIC Chernobyl didn't see seafood and a major food source for the world contaminated after all.. As to release of material, not sure.. Chernobyl might have released more... Thing about the Chernobyl meltdown was they actually tried to put it out and did finally get control over it. Japan isn't doing shit and the rest of the world is ignoring it. I know ... and the world's lack of effort to help makes me suspect that it truly is an ELE and there is not much that can be done before the mutations and cancers start rearing their ugly heads. It's not a lack of effort, we simply do not have the technology to even get close to the melted cores, much less to remove it from it's location. Remember the robot that was supposed to let em find the melted core? It lasted less than an hour before it was trashed! If they can't even find the core, how are they ever going to remove it? Simple...they can't. For the first two years, that was true. Now that the coria are no longer critical, and of course have been contaminated with boron and silica, their energy is lowered to the point that they're solidified. This makes the job possible, though exceedingly difficult. |
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User ID: 77416429 United States 06/02/2019 12:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is Fukushima an ELE ? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56039511 ELE=Extinction Level Event If not, what do you see preventing it from being an ELE? If yes, how long do we Northern Hemisphere folk have left ? Thanks for all opinions !!! I've once heard it said that in the ocean, radiation is leaked via natural/volcanic activity in quantities that far exceed this accident. However, I've not got an actual source. It seems plausible to me considering 2/3rds of earth is covered by ocean and deep down, we know very little about what goes on there. On the surface we see similar. Don't get me wrong, I think Fukushima is bad and will create a dent but will that cascade in to an ELE, probably not. I think life is far more resilient and adaptive. Since when did volcanoe's become radioactive? I think you are confusing what you heard with oil. Oil is released naturally in the ocean from vents in the earths crust. Ask Alice when she's 10ft tall This is a battle for the future of civilization. If free speech is lost even in America, tyranny is all that lies ahead. Elon Musk |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3935153 Canada 06/02/2019 12:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Use a Hydrogen Bomb (H-Bomb) to nuke it to smaller particles... Give everyone in the Northern Hemisphere access to cheap, easily accessible Coreium Detectors... Offer a reward for individuals finding radioactive particles of Coreium... Collect the particles and store them safely, or shoot them into space (the moon, or sun). ? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 55624212 United States 06/02/2019 12:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Best course of action at this point... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3935153 Use a Hydrogen Bomb (H-Bomb) to nuke it to smaller particles... Give everyone in the Northern Hemisphere access to cheap, easily accessible Coreium Detectors... Offer a reward for individuals finding radioactive particles of Coreium... Collect the particles and store them safely, or shoot them into space (the moon, or sun). ? Not today. Probably not back in 2011 either. One problem is that a pure fusion device is still classified and not acknowledged. Japan has no access to such things. Also, the device would release so many neutrons it would cause all the stored nuclear fuel to go critical. U-238 will fission under a high neutron flux, so we'd have perhaps a 1000 TON fission bomb! The coria would no longer be a problem since it would fission all at once. The subsequent explosion from that may well have been an ELE. We've never experienced such a thing in the known history of the world. By the way, everyone should have at least a geiger counter. Scintillation counters and gamma spectrometers are far more expensive. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75646035 United States 06/02/2019 12:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sperm levels falling in men Fish and plankton die off Heart problems and death on the rise Mutations In animals and humans increasing Ozone depletion from continually released radioactive iodine continues Birth rates falling ; infant mortality rates continue to increase. With Fukushima the radiation [from 3+ reactors ( spent rods that have turned critical ) ] continue to be released in to the ocean and air. EFL ; no cockroaches will still be around. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 55624212 United States 06/02/2019 02:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sperm levels falling in men Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75646035 Fish and plankton die off Heart problems and death on the rise Mutations In animals and humans increasing Ozone depletion from continually released radioactive iodine continues Birth rates falling ; infant mortality rates continue to increase. With Fukushima the radiation [from 3+ reactors ( spent rods that have turned critical ) ] continue to be released in to the ocean and air. EFL ; no cockroaches will still be around. That's not all radiation. Hormone disruptors from plasticizers and other chemicals contribute a lot. |
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User ID: 77588681 United States 06/15/2019 02:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence." --Christopher Hitchens, [link to magaimg.net] "I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short one: 'O Lord make my enemies ridiculous.' And God granted it." --Voltaire, [link to magaimg.net] Thread: Man in 2007 Predicted How Future Fascism Would Really Work and How Most Conspiracy Theorists Had it All Wrong - Proven Correct 10 Years Later Disclaimer: Posts do not necessarily reflect agreement/endorsement |
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