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(OP) User ID: 42840263 United States 06/30/2014 10:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Supreme Court: Unions can NOT force dues, Hobby Lobby, Obamacare can NOT force companies to provide birth control. Link? Just turn on the tv or go on the internet. [link to hosted.ap.org] Last Edited by Dr. Drunk Uncle on 06/30/2014 11:06 AM |
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User ID: 59778593 United States 06/30/2014 11:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Supreme Court: Unions can NOT force dues, Hobby Lobby, Obamacare can NOT force companies to provide birth control. That it had to go to court just.... *sigh* Eireann~ I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. - Galatians 2:20 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27704375 United States 06/30/2014 11:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Supreme Court: Unions can NOT force dues, Hobby Lobby, Obamacare can NOT force companies to provide birth control. I don't see how this is even enforceable ..many companies have shed their regular insurance because under the terms of Obamacare they were "required" to have a certain "level" of care in their policies. So how are they going to jump through that loop hole? |
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User ID: 58068420 United States 06/30/2014 11:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Supreme Court: Unions can NOT force dues, Hobby Lobby, Obamacare can NOT force companies to provide birth control. I do not see the big deal. This is still a big loss for America since Hobby Lobby allows 7 out of the 16 contraceptions. Wake me up when America is nuked because all Americans deserve DEATH! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19376479 Then fck off, & go live somewhere else. We should all just show up to this guys house. "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill. |
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User ID: 55330370 United States 06/30/2014 12:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Supreme Court: Unions can NOT force dues, Hobby Lobby, Obamacare can NOT force companies to provide birth control. Thank you for the thread, OP - this is good news. What I find amazing are the critics of this decision saying that it is an infringement on the "reproductive rights" of employees - but completely ignore how forcing companies to pay for their employees' birth control is an infringement on their religious rights. "Be still, and know that I am God." Psalm 46:10 Truth needs no validation because it is self-evident and undeniable. Therefore, anything that requires validation to be realized or justified as truth must contain at least some degree of falsehood. Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
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User ID: 26240425 United States 06/30/2014 12:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Supreme Court: Unions can NOT force dues, Hobby Lobby, Obamacare can NOT force companies to provide birth control. Unfortunately, it proves that almost half of the supremes have no idea what the Constitution says, or what their jobs are. Four of them don't know what the first amendment is! Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe |
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User ID: 59778593 United States 06/30/2014 12:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Supreme Court: Unions can NOT force dues, Hobby Lobby, Obamacare can NOT force companies to provide birth control. Unfortunately, it proves that almost half of the supremes have no idea what the Constitution says, or what their jobs are. Four of them don't know what the first amendment is! Quoting: Epic Beard Guy Freaking scary right there. Eireann~ I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. - Galatians 2:20 |
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User ID: 28167778 United States 06/30/2014 03:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Supreme Court: Unions can NOT force dues, Hobby Lobby, Obamacare can NOT force companies to provide birth control. Thank you for the thread, OP - this is good news. What I find amazing are the critics of this decision saying that it is an infringement on the "reproductive rights" of employees - but completely ignore how forcing companies to pay for their employees' birth control is an infringement on their religious rights. Quoting: Rising Son who has the signature line - someone, it's great: Liberal logic: Insisting the government stay out of your bedroom and insisting they pay for your abortions. Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face – Thomas Sowell |
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User ID: 1499703 United States 06/30/2014 03:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Supreme Court: Unions can NOT force dues, Hobby Lobby, Obamacare can NOT force companies to provide birth control. 4 pro-constitution rulings in 4 days. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1667343 Anyone else feel like they've slid into the twilight zone? Don't get me wrong but... where's the other shoe that's going to drop?? WHAT ARE WE MISSING? Personally, I'm loving it. Gives me hope. SC is starting to kick some *utt. A family member I know will be thrilled about this! She has to take care of a disabled adult child, and HAD to pay these dues. She can not work outside the home (ended up giving up her FT well paying job) and could not qualify for the medical insurance under this union because she couldn't work enough hours. Why? Well Illinois only allows in-home state caregivers so many hours a month (which is not FT, even if they are caring for the disabled person 24/7). So she couldn't earn enough hours to qualify for the union's health insurance, even though she was working as a caregiver 24/7. She was only paid, if I recall correctly, 25 hours a week, that was the max IL would pay her (allow her to work for them). Rules may be different for others, don't know, just know what she went through. But she damn well had to cough up those union dues & she got absolutely ZERO in return, not even union representation. That's messed up. It's nice that the state allows people to do in-home care, and it's a savings, a big savings to the state/taxpayers, but damn, you're forced to pay union dues and can't even get any of the alleged benefits? That's BS. If the caregivers were to place these children/adults in state sponsored homes, it would cost the state a WHOLE lot more, so you would think they'd extend the union in home caregivers the option to enroll in the healthcare plans even if they are limited to only getting paid (working) 25 hours a week...but no, the unions just took the money and ran. This was, IMO, a very fair ruling, and just. Last Edited by InTheGLPHood on 06/30/2014 03:53 PM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 59573041 United States 06/30/2014 04:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Supreme Court: Unions can NOT force dues, Hobby Lobby, Obamacare can NOT force companies to provide birth control. 4 pro-constitution rulings in 4 days. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1667343 Anyone else feel like they've slid into the twilight zone? Don't get me wrong but... where's the other shoe that's going to drop?? WHAT ARE WE MISSING? Personally, I'm loving it. Gives me hope. SC is starting to kick some *utt. A family member I know will be thrilled about this! She has to take care of a disabled adult child, and HAD to pay these dues. She can not work outside the home (ended up giving up her FT well paying job) and could not qualify for the medical insurance under this union because she couldn't work enough hours. Why? Well Illinois only allows in-home state caregivers so many hours a month (which is not FT, even if they are caring for the disabled person 24/7). So she couldn't earn enough hours to qualify for the union's health insurance, even though she was working as a caregiver 24/7. She was only paid, if I recall correctly, 25 hours a week, that was the max IL would pay her (allow her to work for them). Rules may be different for others, don't know, just know what she went through. But she damn well had to cough up those union dues & she got absolutely ZERO in return, not even union representation. That's messed up. It's nice that the state allows people to do in-home care, and it's a savings, a big savings to the state/taxpayers, but damn, you're forced to pay union dues and can't even get any of the alleged benefits? That's BS. If the caregivers were to place these children/adults in state sponsored homes, it would cost the state a WHOLE lot more, so you would think they'd extend the union in home caregivers the option to enroll in the healthcare plans even if they are limited to only getting paid (working) 25 hours a week...but no, the unions just took the money and ran. This was, IMO, a very fair ruling, and just. |
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User ID: 29696048 United States 06/30/2014 04:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Supreme Court: Unions can NOT force dues, Hobby Lobby, Obamacare can NOT force companies to provide birth control. Unfortunately, it proves that almost half of the supremes have no idea what the Constitution says, or what their jobs are. Four of them don't know what the first amendment is! Quoting: Epic Beard Guy Freaking scary right there. Yep....and you can be damn sure the Marxist Muslim and his band of Marxist Czars are now going to make EVERY EFFORT to fill some seats on the Supreme Court before they leave in the next few years. :marxistrev: |