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(OP) User ID: 59770789 United States07/02/2014 10:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation |  no fracking / groundwater pollution ... no oil spills ... no tars sands ... no deep water drilling that significantly harm fish and whales through noise pollution. etc. Exhaust = water vapor = no air pollution.  and you can make your own. The investment to make your own with photovoltaics capitalizes in ONE year. Need more panels in Canada though. Government is a body largely ungoverned. |
| Founders Fan
User ID: 1589589 United States07/02/2014 10:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | About $70k [link to www.x-rates.com] If something can corrupt you, you're corrupted already. Bob Marley “The duty of a patriot is to protect his country from its government.” THOMAS PAINE (1737-1809) Do not pray for an easy life, pray for the strength to endure a difficult one. Bruce Lee |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 56876886  Sweden07/02/2014 10:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no fracking / groundwater pollution ... no oil spills ... no tars sands ... no deep water drilling that significantly harm fish and whales through noise pollution. etc. Exhaust = water vapor = no air pollution. This is not a energy source like gasoline. This is just a storage device. If you will use electricity from the grid to make the hydrogen, then you have fukushima-related issues instead. |
| Kirk
(OP) User ID: 59770789 United States07/02/2014 10:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no fracking / groundwater pollution ... no oil spills ... no tars sands ... no deep water drilling that significantly harm fish and whales through noise pollution. etc. Exhaust = water vapor = no air pollution. This is not a energy source like gasoline. This is just a storage device. If you will use electricity from the grid to make the hydrogen, then you have fukushima-related issues instead. solar is 70 cents a watt retail. Why do you think Germany shut down all its nukes and went solar? Its cheaper. Government is a body largely ungoverned. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 58941013 Canada07/02/2014 10:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Water Powered Electric Generator (Horizon Fuel Cell Technologies) Horizon Fuel Cell Technologies products and solutions are enabled by in-house manufacturing of micro-size to multi-kilowatt scale proton exchange membrane fuel cells, combined with a choice of proprietary on-demand hydrogen storage and production methods including hydrolysis, electrolysis and reformer-based solutions. - and yes, you can use solar to power the electrolysis process - [link to en.wikipedia.org] no fracking / groundwater pollution ... no oil spills ... no tars sands ... no deep water drilling that significantly harm fish and whales through noise pollution. etc. Exhaust = water vapor = no air pollution. This is not a energy source like gasoline. This is just a storage device. If you will use electricity from the grid to make the hydrogen, then you have fukushima-related issues instead. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 59845469 United States07/02/2014 10:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no fracking / groundwater pollution ... no oil spills ... no tars sands ... no deep water drilling that significantly harm fish and whales through noise pollution. etc. Exhaust = water vapor = no air pollution. This is not a energy source like gasoline. This is just a storage device. If you will use electricity from the grid to make the hydrogen, then you have fukushima-related issues instead. solar is 70 cents a watt retail. Why do you think Germany shut down all its nukes and went solar? Its cheaper. If it were cheaper, which it isn't, the market would change over naturally. If fuel cell cars are price competitive (WITHOUT SUBSIDY!) to gasoline vehicles, they will quickly displace them Don't hold your breath. |
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User ID: 49897461 Canada07/02/2014 11:02 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is the way to go but you can convert a 1000 dollar beater into this, so something wrong with the cost a little I'd say. The Devil tries to convince everyone he doesn't exist. The state tries to convince everyone they cannot resist. Do not go quietly into the good night. Rage Rage against the dying light! |
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