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POPE Francis Warns ANY "Personal Relationship with Jesus is Dangerous"

 
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POPE Francis Warns ANY "Personal Relationship with Jesus is Dangerous"
Christians are not made in a laboratory, but in a community called the church, Pope Francis said.

At his weekly general audience Wednesday, Pope Francis continued his series of audience talks about the church, telling an estimated 33,000 people that there is no such thing as "do-it-yourself" Christians or "free agents" when it comes to faith.

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Pope Francis described as "dangerous" the temptation to believe that one can have "a personal, direct, immediate relationship with Jesus Christ without communion with and the mediation of the church."


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EXACTLY why the Pope does not speak for the majority of Christians.
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Yeah not exactly new for a Catholic to say that.
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This is the difference between Catholics and Protestants. Why is this a surprising statement?
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EXACTLY why the Pope does not speak for the majority of Christians.
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I wouldn't even call Catholics Christians. They are satanists and don't even know it.
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This is the difference between Catholics and Protestants. Why is this a surprising statement?
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Who said I was surprised?
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He is going out of his way to include everyone except for Bible-believing Christians into his fold.

His "succession" is built on a lie, paved by heretics, satanists, pedophiles, murderers and specifically, murderers and torturers of Christians who would not succumb to their pagan doctrine.

This is not surprising but just after the Islamic prayers in his "church" made of gold and declaration that Atheists and everyone can get to Heaven w/o Christ (Jesus said "I am the Way the Truth And the Life. NO MAN COMES TO THE FATHER EXCEPT BY ME.") tells me the timing is too perfect.

I see this going downhill for us "free-agents" in the next few years.

Even so, Maranatha and God's will be done.
He who has the Son has life. He who has not the Son of God has not life. 1John 5:12
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Catholics are collectivist. Protestants are more individualistic. Northeastern city dwellers are mostly Catholic thus more collectivist. Southerners are mostly Protestant and more individualistic.
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I left that "church" almost 25 years ago, and they'll never get me back.

My Savior is real, while Catholics have a guy with a pointy hat, that sits on a throne in Rome. I'll stick with mine, thank you very much.
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The entire Bible is about having a personal relationship with Jesus.

Catholics seem to be always trying to put things between people and Jesus, whether it is their religious rituals or idols of Mary.

I guess that's why the catholic authorities got so angry when people started translating the Bible for english commoners.
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He is going out of his way to include everyone except for Bible-believing Christians into his fold.

His "succession" is built on a lie, paved by heretics, satanists, pedophiles, murderers and specifically, murderers and torturers of Christians who would not succumb to their pagan doctrine.

This is not surprising but just after the Islamic prayers in his "church" made of gold and declaration that Atheists and everyone can get to Heaven w/o Christ (Jesus said "I am the Way the Truth And the Life. NO MAN COMES TO THE FATHER EXCEPT BY ME.") tells me the timing is too perfect.

I see this going downhill for us "free-agents" in the next few years.

Even so, Maranatha and God's will be done.
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Does the use of the quite-unsolved true meaning behind Maranatha indicate a dedication to the New Testament through the eyes of Paul?

If not, then what, exactly is the meaning of Maranatha to dispute that suggestion?

The word(s) Maranatha comes from the writing of Paul, true?

Thanks.
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He didn't say any personal relationship is dangerous, he just pointed out that involvement in a community of believers is important as a supplement....I interpreted it to mean, though he didn't say it, that it probably helps to keep us honest when we are tempted to rationalize all of our beliefs.

We are all probably involved at arm's length anyway with one or several belief systems (i.e. we benefit from their years of accumulated wisdom) even though we complain about organized religion.
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Christians are not made in a laboratory, but in a community called the church, Pope Francis said.

At his weekly general audience Wednesday, Pope Francis continued his series of audience talks about the church, telling an estimated 33,000 people that there is no such thing as "do-it-yourself" Christians or "free agents" when it comes to faith.

...

Pope Francis described as "dangerous" the temptation to believe that one can have "a personal, direct, immediate relationship with Jesus Christ without communion with and the mediation of the church."


[link to www.wucnews.com]
 Quoting: I'm May


You better not try to have a personal relationship with Jesus.

If you try we will do to you what we did to the believing of the middle ages, remember how we would burn them, strangle them, put them on the rack, remember.
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Dangerous how?
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Of course, you're supposed to talk to God through your Priest, Reverend, Pastor, etc, etc...with a Generous Contribution to the Church in the process.

Otherwise you wouldn't need Religion, and they can't have that.
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The entire Bible is about having a personal relationship with Jesus.

Catholics seem to be always trying to put things between people and Jesus, whether it is their religious rituals or idols of Mary.

I guess that's why the catholic authorities got so angry when people started translating the Bible for english commoners.
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Nailed it.
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Christians are not made in a laboratory, but in a community called the church, Pope Francis said.

At his weekly general audience Wednesday, Pope Francis continued his series of audience talks about the church, telling an estimated 33,000 people that there is no such thing as "do-it-yourself" Christians or "free agents" when it comes to faith.

...

Pope Francis described as "dangerous" the temptation to believe that one can have "a personal, direct, immediate relationship with Jesus Christ without communion with and the mediation of the church."


[link to www.wucnews.com]
 Quoting: I'm May



"Obviously, he said, it is not always easy to walk the path of faith with other people. "Sometimes it's tiring. It can happen that a brother or sister creates problems for us or scandalizes us, but the Lord entrusted his message of salvation to human beings, to us, to witnesses," he said.
"It is through our brothers and sisters with their gifts and their limits," the pope said, "that he comes to us and makes himself known. This is what belonging to the church means. Remember: Being Christian means belonging to the church. If your first name is Christian, your last name is Member of the Church."
At the end of his talk, the pope asked people to join him in praying that they would never "give into the temptation of thinking you can do without others, without the church, that you can save yourself, of thinking you can be a laboratory Christian.

Christians, he said, are not manufactured in isolation, but belong to a long line of believers who handed on the faith and challenged one another to live it fully."



I totally agree!
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"WE SHALL TELL YOU THE TRUTH AND SO ON AND SO FORTH!!!!!"


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Thats catholicism..not a shocking revelation lol.
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Christians are not made in a laboratory, but in a community called the church, Pope Francis said.

At his weekly general audience Wednesday, Pope Francis continued his series of audience talks about the church, telling an estimated 33,000 people that there is no such thing as "do-it-yourself" Christians or "free agents" when it comes to faith.

...

Pope Francis described as "dangerous" the temptation to believe that one can have "a personal, direct, immediate relationship with Jesus Christ without communion with and the mediation of the church."


[link to www.wucnews.com]
 Quoting: I'm May


Sounds like more libtard communal salvation nonsense. Social justice is god to these fools.
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Soap POPE on a ..............rope
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Nonsense!! pope




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My first pin, pretty cool. afro
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Really? far overdue
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Huh. So it turns out reading the Bible isn't a requirement for being Pope. Who knew?
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"WE SHALL TELL YOU THE TRUTH AND SO ON AND SO FORTH!!!!!"


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He is going out of his way to include everyone except for Bible-believing Christians into his fold.

His "succession" is built on a lie, paved by heretics, satanists, pedophiles, murderers and specifically, murderers and torturers of Christians who would not succumb to their pagan doctrine.

This is not surprising but just after the Islamic prayers in his "church" made of gold and declaration that Atheists and everyone can get to Heaven w/o Christ (Jesus said "I am the Way the Truth And the Life. NO MAN COMES TO THE FATHER EXCEPT BY ME.") tells me the timing is too perfect.

I see this going downhill for us "free-agents" in the next few years.

Even so, Maranatha and God's will be done.
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