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A Question is coming:

I have a 300 gallon Hot Tub.
Newer.
(It could be a problem when its below freezing for extended periods and there is no power. I understand that it isn't a guaranteed source seasonally.)

I use sodium-dichloro-s-triazinetrione dehydrate plus a shock in the tub.

I try to maintain lower levels of chems for my wife's skin sensitivity.

My current plan is this 300 gallons is for washing and flushing water in an emergency.

I keep 3 full military grade 5 gallon water jugs.
Plus about 15 gallons of frozen water milk jugs that are very well rinsed. They'll extend cold in freezers somewhat then provide drinking water.

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Is sodium-dichloro-s-triazinetrione reasonable to use for drinking water purification and at what levels if so?
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Sweet Jesus Hot Tub Water~? Yuck~!! Super Super Super Shock.. Then buy a life straw.. Yuck~!


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What are going to flush with?
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A Question is coming:

I have a 300 gallon Hot Tub.
Newer.
(It could be a problem when its below freezing for extended periods and there is no power. I understand that it isn't a guaranteed source seasonally.)

I use sodium-dichloro-s-triazinetrione dehydrate plus a shock in the tub.

I try to maintain lower levels of chems for my wife's skin sensitivity.

My current plan is this 300 gallons is for washing and flushing water in an emergency.

I keep 3 full military grade 5 gallon water jugs.
Plus about 15 gallons of frozen water milk jugs that are very well rinsed. They'll extend cold in freezers somewhat then provide drinking water.

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Is sodium-dichloro-s-triazinetrione reasonable to use for drinking water purification and at what levels if so?
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Sweet Jesus Hot Tub Water~? Yuck~!! Super Super Super Shock.. Then buy a life straw.. Yuck~!


5a
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What are going to flush with?
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Depending on how long the event lasts, long term, dig a latrine and save the water and filter it.
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chuckle You guys are hilarious! :)
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chuckle You guys are hilarious! :)
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They are and I love the baby stink eye! hugs
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If you prep by stocking up on supplies for bodily needs, how do you know how much you'll need for the rest of your life if you don't know how long you are to live? What if you stock up for month, something happens so you are covered for that long, but what then? What if after you run out of your supplies your life is not over, yet situation is still the same and nowhere to get more supplies? I think one would need to know their date of death, like they know their date of birth (what they were told) to know how much they will need exactly for how long.
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Preps are only to get by in the beginning. One should be learning how to make a fire, hunt with a bow & traps, preserve food, grow food, etc NOW. Books are great but you can't carry them all in a bug out scenario. Knowledge is power. Knowledge of how to live like they did in the early 1800's is best. Guns are great but ammo runs out. Learn to use a bow which is also silent!
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If you can find an old, circa 1930-1959, Boy Scout's Handbook, grab it. It has great information on the bow and arrow kind of stuff.

US Department of Agriculture and state D of A and Extension services have a wealth of information on how to do all kinds of things you'll want to know.

Utah State Extension has a 120 page booklet A Guide to Food Storage for Emergencies
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This is the page for their publications:
[link to extension.usu.edu (secure)]
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Some air guns can be very deadly.....lots of power behind them!



Also, for illumination during the dark, dark nights, I'm depending on my solar lights around my garden.

CHEAP and efficient. All I have to do is put them out all day so they recharge, and they light things up inside at night! NO matches needed, no batteries to run out of, etc.

AND - they don't look like anything.....they're just OUT THERE during the day.

"Hiding in plain sight."
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They do not give a lot of illumination, but if you have enough of them, it would be better than nothing.


Dollar Store led flashlights are pretty good too. I gave then for Christmas presents.
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The metal ones are well made and sturdy and produce a lot of light. They must be using super bright LEDs

I don't work for Dollar Tree, it is just the only dollar store where I live, and they are a pretty good source for prepper and bug out stuff.
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I like that plan, but I'll have to ask my wife.

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If u had 1 gun?..which one, what caliber?
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If u had 1 gun?..which one, what caliber?
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Just one? Hand or long? Hunting or tactical?

Just like Lays Potato Chips, you can't just pick one nono
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If u had 1 gun?..which one, what caliber?
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Just one? Hand or long? Hunting or tactical?

Just like Lays Potato Chips, you can't just pick one nono
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I would have a really hard time getting down to just one, but it would have to be a gun that has the best of both worlds. It would need to be concealable, and maneuverable, like a pistol. It would also need to reach out and touch someone at distance. Having the power to stop a truck would be a big plus. That narrows it down to the FN P90. That little carbine is small enough to hide in any jacket, and light enough to maneuver quickly. It will hit a target at two or three hundred yards easily. And, if you need to stop a truck, the little 5.7 will penetrate an engine block! I didn't believe it, so I tried it. I put several 5.7mm holes in the block and heads of an old Chevy 350. If the angle is too little, it would ricochet, but if with a good angle, it not only penetrated, but once it knocked a sparkplug hole clean out of the head. Yeah, it's hard to choose, but the P90 is closest to a "universal gun" I have found. The 5.7 is small, but it's fast and powerful. I don't see me having only one gun, but if i did, it would be the P90. I even like it better than all the AR platforms, and that's saying something!
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If u had 1 gun?..which one, what caliber?
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Just one? Hand or long? Hunting or tactical?

Just like Lays Potato Chips, you can't just pick one nono
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I would have a really hard time getting down to just one, but it would have to be a gun that has the best of both worlds. It would need to be concealable, and maneuverable, like a pistol. It would also need to reach out and touch someone at distance. Having the power to stop a truck would be a big plus. That narrows it down to the FN P90. That little carbine is small enough to hide in any jacket, and light enough to maneuver quickly. It will hit a target at two or three hundred yards easily. And, if you need to stop a truck, the little 5.7 will penetrate an engine block! I didn't believe it, so I tried it. I put several 5.7mm holes in the block and heads of an old Chevy 350. If the angle is too little, it would ricochet, but if with a good angle, it not only penetrated, but once it knocked a sparkplug hole clean out of the head. Yeah, it's hard to choose, but the P90 is closest to a "universal gun" I have found. The 5.7 is small, but it's fast and powerful. I don't see me having only one gun, but if i did, it would be the P90. I even like it better than all the AR platforms, and that's saying something!
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5lbs of lentils? I blow through 2 lbs per week just making soup. Family of 4. You have way too much grain and not enough protein in your project. The beans and legumes keep longer, are less susceptible to mold and provide better nutrition than any of the grains. You don't even need sugar. Salt is smarter. With salt you can preserve and flavor things in the future. Sugar is retarded. There is a reason that there is a saying that a man is worth his salt. In times before currency folks were payed in salt. Salt is far more valuable than the sugar any day of the week. Sorry but your prep is ass backwards. Go backpacking for a month or 2 and you will learn really quick what things are the most valuable for the long haul.
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and on top of that, 3 guns;
a decent .308 winchester -- I don't really have a preference, you can get a decent savage or remington for not a whole lot.
a decent 12 guage -- I love my browning, but mossberg makes a good gun for pretty cheap.
if you want a handgun I prefer a .357 single action revolver. Easy to clean, not too many parts. They last forever.
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Keep in mind that most filters like the $20 Sawyer are fine for the mountains where all you have to deal with are 'bugs' so to speak. Anywhere else and you have to deal with pesticides, hard metals, chemicals etc. And that $20 Sawyer filter won't cut it for that stuff. You need a better filter for farm and urban areas.
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Most awesome thread!!! Thanks for all the info!!!

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and on top of that, 3 guns;
a decent .308 winchester -- I don't really have a preference, you can get a decent savage or remington for not a whole lot.
a decent 12 guage -- I love my browning, but mossberg makes a good gun for pretty cheap.
if you want a handgun I prefer a .357 single action revolver. Easy to clean, not too many parts. They last forever.
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5lbs of lentils? I blow through 2 lbs per week just making soup. Family of 4. You have way too much grain and not enough protein in your project. The beans and legumes keep longer, are less susceptible to mold and provide better nutrition than any of the grains. You don't even need sugar. Salt is smarter. With salt you can preserve and flavor things in the future. Sugar is retarded. There is a reason that there is a saying that a man is worth his salt. In times before currency folks were payed in salt. Salt is far more valuable than the sugar any day of the week. Sorry but your prep is ass backwards. Go backpacking for a month or 2 and you will learn really quick what things are the most valuable for the long haul.
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You need sugar or honey to make bread.

No need to dis the info, add to it without being "it". Many people don't have a clue and this is basics.

I have more pinto beans than rice. Don't like lentils but have a little on hand as well as dried peas. I have whole wheat and only a small amount of different flours.

One needs a grain mill, hand operated if you have whole grains. Coffee and black pepper mills also.

But none of it matters if you don't have WATER. You all have to have water and a way to filter it. #1 on your list

Learn about Wild Lettuce - most of us think of it as a pest weed. It is a strong pain killer without the side effects of opiod narcotics.

When one goes to the store, always buy more salt, grains, beans, rice, oats. I seal them as soon as I get home. Date everything. My system: The best buy date, the date I sealed it and "real" expiration date. Best buy, is not an expiration date.
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Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
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Keep in mind that most filters like the $20 Sawyer are fine for the mountains where all you have to deal with are 'bugs' so to speak. Anywhere else and you have to deal with pesticides, hard metals, chemicals etc. And that $20 Sawyer filter won't cut it for that stuff. You need a better filter for farm and urban areas.
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I've read a simple sand/charcoal filter will take care of that but need to do more research. Even radiation will be eliminated but that sand/charcoal has to be dumped in a special area and a second filtering should be done.
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and on top of that, 3 guns;
a decent .308 winchester -- I don't really have a preference, you can get a decent savage or remington for not a whole lot.
a decent 12 guage -- I love my browning, but mossberg makes a good gun for pretty cheap.
if you want a handgun I prefer a .357 single action revolver. Easy to clean, not too many parts. They last forever.
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5lbs of lentils? I blow through 2 lbs per week just making soup. Family of 4. You have way too much grain and not enough protein in your project. The beans and legumes keep longer, are less susceptible to mold and provide better nutrition than any of the grains. You don't even need sugar. Salt is smarter. With salt you can preserve and flavor things in the future. Sugar is retarded. There is a reason that there is a saying that a man is worth his salt. In times before currency folks were payed in salt. Salt is far more valuable than the sugar any day of the week. Sorry but your prep is ass backwards. Go backpacking for a month or 2 and you will learn really quick what things are the most valuable for the long haul.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74856234


You need sugar or honey to make bread.

No need to dis the info, add to it without being "it". Many people don't have a clue and this is basics.

I have more pinto beans than rice. Don't like lentils but have a little on hand as well as dried peas. I have whole wheat and only a small amount of different flours.

One needs a grain mill, hand operated if you have whole grains. Coffee and black pepper mills also.

But none of it matters if you don't have WATER. You all have to have water and a way to filter it. #1 on your list

Learn about Wild Lettuce - most of us think of it as a pest weed. It is a strong pain killer without the side effects of opiod narcotics.

When one goes to the store, always buy more salt, grains, beans, rice, oats. I seal them as soon as I get home. Date everything. My system: The best buy date, the date I sealed it and "real" expiration date. Best buy, is not an expiration date.
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Concerning wild lettuce, one must learn to identify the species as some are poisonous and worse some resemble noxious hogweed a easier weed to identify is the common dandelion they are edible from root to flower.

Another easily identifiable weed is the Jerusalem artichoke the root tubers are edible and they grew like weeds if you have some property.

Have chosen organic dark brown sugar as my choice you can rotate this along with organic cornmeal and organic flours.

Salt you will need tons of salt for so many reasons such as canning what you have grown.
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5lbs of lentils? I blow through 2 lbs per week just making soup. Family of 4. You have way too much grain and not enough protein in your project. The beans and legumes keep longer, are less susceptible to mold and provide better nutrition than any of the grains. You don't even need sugar. Salt is smarter. With salt you can preserve and flavor things in the future. Sugar is retarded. There is a reason that there is a saying that a man is worth his salt. In times before currency folks were payed in salt. Salt is far more valuable than the sugar any day of the week. Sorry but your prep is ass backwards. Go backpacking for a month or 2 and you will learn really quick what things are the most valuable for the long haul.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74856234


You need sugar or honey to make bread.

No need to dis the info, add to it without being "it". Many people don't have a clue and this is basics.

I have more pinto beans than rice. Don't like lentils but have a little on hand as well as dried peas. I have whole wheat and only a small amount of different flours.

One needs a grain mill, hand operated if you have whole grains. Coffee and black pepper mills also.

But none of it matters if you don't have WATER. You all have to have water and a way to filter it. #1 on your list

Learn about Wild Lettuce - most of us think of it as a pest weed. It is a strong pain killer without the side effects of opiod narcotics.

When one goes to the store, always buy more salt, grains, beans, rice, oats. I seal them as soon as I get home. Date everything. My system: The best buy date, the date I sealed it and "real" expiration date. Best buy, is not an expiration date.
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Concerning wild lettuce, one must learn to identify the species as some are poisonous and worse some resemble noxious hogweed a easier weed to identify is the common dandelion they are edible from root to flower.

Another easily identifiable weed is the Jerusalem artichoke the root tubers are edible and they grew like weeds if you have some property.

Have chosen organic dark brown sugar as my choice you can rotate this along with organic cornmeal and organic flours.

Salt you will need tons of salt for so many reasons such as canning what you have grown.
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Thank you!
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The great aspect of lentils is less time hydrated dried ones. Try making them sometime versus dried pinto beans.

If your beans are old, then you have to soak longer and add some baking soda. Even old beans will work as people failed to rotate their stock. And soak them longer and you germinate them and then they gain vitamins.

Learn the most common wild edibles that nobody thinks to eat like grass seed which is ubiquitous but must not have any black on it. That is ergot and is a rust that is harmful. Pines have nuts. Hickory nuts are ignored. Acorns. Maple syrup. White clover blossoms. Cattails especially the starchy roots to thicken a stew or stretch flour. On their own,many things don't taste as good but nutritionally enhance a meal.

You are inserting these ingredients to maximize calories and protein.

Don't grill but make stews to use up offal and not lose animal fat. You need to catch all that drippin' grease. Over and over on the Alone tv series I see so-called experts wasting calories by grilling. Sure it might be a pasty stew but keep you alive.

Grab those persimmons with a rigged basket on a pole. Those suckers have yeast that deposits on them. You can use that to make bread.
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if you have a bunch of empty mason jars lying around why not can water and itll last for a long time.





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