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POLL: What about one religion "sharing" another religion's sacred symbols?
 It is O.K. to share or to "build-on" meanings as long as the motive is NOT to hide the first meaning!
 It is NOT cool at all to just "lift" another religion's symbol to tack it on to your NEW religion!
 Many already know that Rome "borrowed" many world religious symbols--they meant well!
 I feel it is really sickening that the Vatican took these symbols and changed their meanings. It was wrong.
 Religion is built in layers...mankind continues to progress and the symbols have to change to reflect that growing.
 There is an ultimate meaning to EACH symbol and it is sacred--not to be altered.
 I never thought the Blade was a penius or the Chalis a womb--that's rediculous!
 People should just believe what they wish and stay away from religious symbols.
 I think Dan Brown owes Buddhism their own movie! Bring back the real meanings with a killer plot!
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JUST A COUPLE NOTES BEFORE WE BEGIN:

Edited: 7-18-2014
Please take the time to vote in our poll...(and
also if you feel this thread deserves more than
2 stars vote on that as well, please! I worked for
2 weeks to research this thread!
ALSO:
VERY DISTURBING EVENTS IN THE NEWS may make some
of us very nervous today. I have added an excellent
playlist of short talks by Eckhart Tolle (whom I
reference in the thread) which may be a great place
to start a philosophy/spiritual practice which is
wonderfully "grounding" in times of these extreme
times. Hope you enjoy them! See bottom page #2
Added:
The picture of "Egypt from space" on the first post
of the thread was added today--a little late, but
there is NO VISUAL of the Egyptian BLUE LOTUS
available anywhere on Earth that is more beautiful
than this one! (Yes! Ancient Egypt is the source
for later religions like Buddhism using the flower,
the Lotus, as its most sacred religious symbol!)
"The Chalice" symbol has been counterfeited by
the Davinci Code movie for a Carnal, lower
chakra reference to the female anatomy when, in fact,
the TRUE MEANING of this symbol--and the one
Leonardo Davinci was pointing us to--is the BLUE
Lotus! (This is an original GLP theory from SK!)

Edited: 7-13-2014
This thread builds on the 2 threads Silentlyknowing
co-hosted with GLP's "Abhie." Surprise! The 2 received
over 100,000 total views since posting. (There is
obviously a REAL thirst for "anything "DaVinci"

...and mind blowing NEW discoveries in Da Vinci's
paintings or inventions (and especially the Christian
Iconic work "The Last Supper Painting" is welcomed by
those of us who consider themselves "DaVincitards."

This thread is not an attempt to offend anymone's
religion and posts which reflect aggressive bashing
or jibberish toward other's beliefs will be deleted.
We monitor our threads.

Abhie's/Silentlyknowing co-hosted thread on The DaVinci Code
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
and
Silentlyknowing's "Easter Warning/Davinci Code" 2014 thread:
Via Dolorosa thread/Davinci
Thread: DaVinci's "The Last Supper-Code" Final Solution! Did DaVinci believe Christ's "Last Footsteps" held a Warning? Wow!


End of Edits
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[link to www.youtube.com]
1:24 min mark
FairUSE
The Hollywood version of symbols within the
painting "The Last Supper" by Leonardo DaVinci
(according to Dan Brown & Ron Howard:
"The Blade," "The Chalis," and "The Holy Grail"
start at 1:24 min. mark.


To understand what the symbols The Blade, The chalice,
and The Holy Grail really are in reality, you need
first to see WHAT THEY ARE NOT
and compare the
level of absurdity which "variations on a theme"
--especially where symbolism is concerned--over centuries
can become. (Post #2 deals with what the true meaning
of these symbols are--which may surprise you!)

Please watch the brief video above. I have to admit
right off...I DID BELIEVE the explanation for the 3
symbols (The Blade, The Chalice and The Holy Grail)
in this scene. I had just assumed that Dan Brown would
have taken the time to research the correct meaning
for them and it was built on historical fact!


REMEMBER this is a work of fiction and although
Professor Teabing's character defines these symbols to
support the movie's hypothesis (a bloodline for Jesus/
Mary Magdolin and a GRAND conspiracy by "outlaws" within
the Vatican to hide this secret), I'll show you that
there are in fact, ANCIENT MEANINGS FOR THESE SAME
THREE SYMBOLS used in past civilizations.

Not only that...but symbolic meanings which are
far more spiritual and wonderful than Brown's (penis
and womb) having been deliberately "SKEWED"
in the way Christianity uses them. Sadly by incorrectly presenting
these 3 symbols since DaVinci's time by Church dogma,
the true symbolic meaning--the REAL MEANINGS by
great Masters--is a terrible loss for us all.




IS THE "HOLY GRAIL" A CUP?

Starmap2Hershel
No...sorry, the "Chalice" symbol was NEVER the gold
cup held up with wine by the Pope (in pic above)
nor was the "Holy Grail" a person, bloodline or THING!


The Symbols "The Blade"--"The Chalice"--"The Holy Grail"
are central symbols explained and carefully developed in
the film "The DaVinci Code" (W/Tom Hanks). Without our
suspending our "belief systems" regarding them the plot
falls apart, (and astonishing as it may be...many people don't
even know they ARE SYMBOLS for something very significant
before coming to the film!) The symbols
--though greatly obscured--for purposes of Dan Brown's
movie work very well. (Brown, you will recall was author
of the novel by the same name and popularized the idea of
a bloodline of Jesus and Mary hidden by the Vatican)
...those symbols worked very well to support the "clues"
of Christ's bloodline, which Brown suggests, were an
important message by DaVinci (also a fiction!) that
could be found in "The Last Supper Painting," another
FICTION!

But WERE THE 3 SYMBOLS invented through the genius
of only one artist in the 1500's? Do any REAL historical
links to Jesus or Mary in Christianity based on the Bible
support Brown's ideas? And most importantly, are the
symbols much much older than DaVinci--older than
Christianity itself--and debunking by default of their
age alone Brown's thesis that these symbols would be clues
about ANYTHING Christian, let alone a basis for a conspiracy
involving Leonardo DaVinci? Did Brown even consider
DAVINCI MAY HAVE HAD HIS OWN MESSAGE (using the correct
and original meanings for the Blade, Chalice and
Holy Grail and NOT Dan Brown's) which would be
unrelated to Jesus and Mary by using these symbols?
Will we ever get to see what THAT MESSAGE really is?


The Blade, The Chalice, and The Holy Grail are
linked to Ancient Egypt, Buddhism and Hinduism--
all cultures which existed 500 to 5,000 years before
Jesus was born! (And France wants you to know this
with an amazing sculture in the Louvre in Paris!
See below!)


The "Blade" and "Chalice" thru pyramid-art/France:

[link to www.youtube.com]
FairUSE
Just to show you the actual "Blade" and "Chalice" as they
actually appear in the Paris Art Museum--The Louvre, this
amateur video clip shows our fastination with the symbols
and how they "come to life" in the Louvre. This video was
taken in the lobby that houses the pyramid-art and is
the same location as the movie "The DaVinci Code" scene
where Professor Langdon and The Detective discussed
the curator's murder (and the symbols).

What PROOF is there that the Church in
the time of DaVinci--or any other time period--used
the shape of the "Chalice" ("V") in their churches
to hide some other ancient meaning?


[link to www.youtube.com]
[link to www.youtube.com]
FairUSE

Well...Check out this video--the 2 year research of Danny
Wilten has pretty clearly established that the Vatican
at the time of DaVinci
was, in fact, using the "V"
or "The Chalice" hidden in their cathedral paintings
and murals!
In Wilten's opinion, The Chalice (or LOTUS in Buddhism/
Hinduism) was a stand-in for the Vatican deification
The Orion Nebula (Trapezium area--or the place of
unmanifest reality) which matches more precisely
the true meaning for the symbol. What can not be
avoided, of course, is that the "average man"--the
little guy who goes to church every Sunday--is given
a counterfeit of sorts for the symbol, while the
Priests and the higher in-crowd of the Church are
educated to its true meaning. In their eyes, we
"average Joes" don't hold the intellect to grasp
these deeper (and truer) meanings!


Is there a primary or well-known Buddhist symbol
in The Last Supper Painting? Yes...The Lotus
a well-known symbol for both Buddhism and Hinduism
is to the right shoulder of Jesus--you just need
to understand the "negative space" Davinci used!


Excellent example from our prior GLP thread here:
[link to www.pixhost.org]
Abhie's & my transparency of the Nile Delta and Nile River
superimposed over The Last Supper Painting GLP 7-2012

EgyptSPACE
This is Egypt from space...see the Lotus flower
that seems as if it were deliberately carved into
the desert? It's shape fits EXACTLY into the negative
space, and the stem of the LOTUS follows along between
the shoulders and sleeves of Mary and Jesus! WOW!
The geographical match to the STEM of the Nile makes
this a more reasonable match than simply the letter
"V" which could be hundreds of different things. The
"tail" below the "V" shape shows it was, indeed,
Davinci's INTENTION TO POINT US TO A "LOTUS SYMBOL!"

How incredibly INGENIOUS of DaVinci to place the
LOTUS symbol (which means "space" and "unmanifest
reality) in a SPACE right in the middle of the
painting! Do you see the DEEPER SYMBOLISM that
Davinci was pointing us to (rather than a "human body
part"--a much lower chakra level symbol--as Brown would have us believe it to be?)

Now check out this over-lay transparency showing
the placement of the Lotus flower/"Egypt from space"
ResizedDavinciNi
(Larger image below link)
[link to www.pixhost.org]



WHAT IS THE BIGGEST CLUE IN LEONARDO DAVINCI'S
PAINTING THAT THE "BLADE" AND "CHALICE" HIDDEN IN
"THE LAST SUPPER" HAS ROOTS IN ANOTHER TIME PERIOD
BEFORE CHRIST (and even BEFORE DAVINCI!)?


The pointing finger of the disciple standing to the left
of Jesus in the center of "The Last Supper" painting
(follow the red line over the figures to the #8) is
definitely "the smoking gun" that debunks a bloodline
link to Davinci's hidden symbolism.

3timesAcharm
What does the odd signal of a "pointing finger" mean
in the context of DaVinci's painting--an obviously
Buddhist/Hindu symbol surely known by a 33 degree
level Master Mason, which DaVinci is said to have been?
Is it "heaven"
...or is it something more clever in the rogue spirit
of DaVinci (and Michelangelo,too) to "prank" the Vatican?


This is a link to a short article on what the
Buddhist "pointing finger" means
--sorry it is also
an ad for a DVD series, but the article which went
with the ad was excellent (SK is NOT affiliated with
this site or their merchandise!)
[link to www.myrkothum.com]

Pointingfinger1
The "Laughing Buddha" from the tradition of
Buddhism (500 B.C.) shows the happy figure
pointing up (to the moon). The significance
is that SYMBOLS are "pointers" (like fingers)
and should never be deified in and of themselves
over what it is the symbols are pointing us to!
What a very ODD reference, indeed, sitting at
the center (even ABOVE CHRIST) in DaVinci's
"The Last Supper"--an iconic Christian archetype.

Continued on Post #2!

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Thread intro paragraph continued:


Pointingfinger1
"Laughing Buddha Pointing"
(See the disciple #8 in Avatar picture at left
pointing up and see the similar gesture used
by the Buddha...What the heck is a pointing
finger doing in the center of a CHRISTIAN
painting? lol!)

My own epiphany this morning to compose the thread
on DaVinci Code Busted to show Zen Buddhist/Hindu links
to the pointing finger and the 3 Davinci symbols came as
I was watching one of the video clips from a current
"spiritual teacher/author", Eckhart Tolle. (*Be
thinking about how vastly different the symbols--
expressed thru positioning of his hands--
shown by Tom Hanks in the clip from DaVinci Code
and this following video by Eckhart Tolle using
his hand positions (from Buddhism/Zen) for the
exact same symbols (Blade and Chalice) versus
(Form and Space/Unmanifest reality)! A HUGE
DIFFERENCE!


[link to www.youtube.com]
FairUSE

Author of "The Power of Now," ECKHART TOLLE
uses hand gestures (exactly like Tom Hanks shows
us in The DaVinci Code,) to show the "Blade" and
"The Chalice" referencing Zen/Hindu meanings!


You can see clearly Eckhart Tolle's use of the
hand gestures identical to those of Tom Hanks in the
Davinci Code video clip (see top of paragraph.)
This is NOT a coincidence being something that
Tolle is just 'making-up' for his own illustration.
These are ancient Hindu and Buddhist hand-symbols
representing "The World of Form" and "Unmanifest
reality --or becoming" BOTH....500 to 1,000 years
before Christianity and 2,000 years before DaVinci would have painted them into his painting!
The "Holy Grail" harkens back 5,000 TO 10,000
YEARS to ancient Egypt and is associated with with
The Egyptian Book of the Dead and the Ank (Orion's
"black hole" discovered by Wilten). (Wilten shows that
the symbol of The "ANK" represents the black hole newly discovered by NASA in the Orion Nebula Trapezium
--the place of "unmanifest reality" and is closely
linked with the LOTUS (Chalis) symbol in Egyptian legend.)

This is another excellent presentation on the philosophy of Eckhart Tolle.
The book "The Power of NOW" contains many of his
excellent ideas for explaining the human condition.



[link to www.youtube.com]
FairUSE

If these are, in fact, the same 3 symbols used in BOTH
RELIGIONS, we are seeing Tolle's version of The Blade
and Chalice actually 500 years OLDER than
CHRISTIANITY (maybe 1,000s of years ago having been
brought forward from Ancient Egypt, Hinduism and Chinese Buddhism!) The Vatican has lifted these symbols and
skewed their very important meanings to their prior religions and philosophies--a GREAT loss!

VaticanSTRIKE

While it is possible the interchangeable use of symbols
like the blade and chalice for BOTH RELIGIONS is a
strange "coincidence" and could be argued that they
are personifications of the original ancient ones
....One has to ask the NEXT QUESTION:

Was the use of the Blade and the Chalice by
the Catholic Church a deliberate out and out act of
plagarism by the Christian church to HIDE certain
precepts taught by Zen Buddhism/Hinduism and an attempt
to suggest that they were intended to be "modernized"
from their ancient meanings to something that would
better serve the Church?


Leonardo Davinci as a "rebel" painted many unflattering
messages about the Vatican in his various Art!


As an act of rebellion on the part of Leonardo
DaVinci (to hide Buddhist symbol references in a Christian
painting consigned by the Vatican for its own religion)
--this message that Leonardo, himself, was aware and was personally offended that the Vatican/Christianity would ALTER yet another religion's most sacred symbols for its own purposes in this way --and expressed such a sentiment in a hidden reference in this iconic painting--
would actually fit the mode of operation for this
eccentric and brilliant artist during his commissions
done for the Vatican. He did this in many others as did
his contemporary, Michealangelo who pranked the
Cistine Chapel with extremely unflattering hidden symbols!

RabbitLOTUS

Also very helpful besides Eckhart Tolle's very
revealing video for my own understanding of these
beautiful symbols and how they have been MISUSED
by the Church was Danny Wilten's material on the
"V" (Lotus) shape for "The Chalice" in Vatican ART at
this link:
[link to www.OrionintheVatican.com] and his UTUBE channel:
"St4rscream." The "Chalice" shape has further been
shown to be a hidden reference to the Orion Nebula
and an interesting location of an "unmanifest
reality" there in the form of a black hole. I have
yet to find a link between the Orion connection and
Buddhism or Hinduism--tho there is a clear link with
the Egyptian symbols for the Lotus Flower and Orion
going back 5,000 years!

RabbitLOTUS2

Hope you find this interesting. I would have never
stumbled on this information without Abhie's orginal
thread, the research of Danny Wilten (his exhausting work
on symbolism and the Vatican), and Eckhart Tolle.
You can check out Danny Wilten's work on the "lotus"
symbol (the "V") at:
[link to www.OrionintheVatican.com]
You can check out more of Tolle's work at:
[link to www.EckhartTolleTV.com]

cheers
SK

EgyptSPACE
The Nile River as stem--"The Fertile
Crescent" as the flower of the
Egyptian symbol for LOTUS as seen from
space. Think they didn't LOVE the
"Chalis"/LOTUS symbol? They surely did!

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It predates Humanity because its from the old pagan Gods.

The Anunnaki had the Bread of Long Living and the Elixir of Life.


The Ankh is the Grail and the "Was Scepter" is the blade.


The Anunnaki are the Elohim. They have the very long lives of a demigod. Because they eat from the Tree of Life.



Jesus came to give us what what Elohim refused us.

He tried to give us Eternal Life.


Jesus came to try and complete the Great Work and he was Crucified for trying.
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OP ?
are u the least familiar with an unaltered Old Testament ?
the royal order of the priests ? God's LAW'S ? order of the temple ? sacred objects ?
anything ?
prophecies,the lineage of the House of David ?
Who Christ is ?

educate yourself to the truth.
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It predates Humanity because its from the old pagan Gods.

The Anunnaki had the Bread of Long Living and the Elixir of Life.


The Ankh is the Grail and the "Was Scepter" is the blade.


The Anunnaki are the Elohim. They have the very long lives of a demigod. Because they eat from the Tree of Life.



Jesus came to give us what what Elohim refused us.

He tried to give us Eternal Life.


Jesus came to try and complete the Great Work and he was Crucified for trying.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57981403


Interesting! Thanks!
The "Was Scepter" of Egypt as the "Blade" does make
a great deal of sense as the FIRST reference to the
blade symbol. You can see the "Was Scepter" in the
videos by Danny Wilten as he researches the various
hyroglyphics showing the Scepter. I believe his
UTUBE link can be found on his webpage here:
[link to www.OrionintheVatican.com]

That would make the symbol "The Blade" over 7,000
years old. Very interesting connection!
Your belief about Jesus and his mission to complete
the work that Elohim attempted (Sumerian mythology)
is gaining more acceptance since the work of
Zachariah Sitchin. He makes some very good points
in his many books. He has a website:
[link to www.Sitchin.com]

Thanks for sharing.
hf
SK
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OP ?
are u the least familiar with an unaltered Old Testament ?
the royal order of the priests ? God's LAW'S ? order of the temple ? sacred objects ?
anything ?
prophecies,the lineage of the House of David ?
Who Christ is ?

educate yourself to the truth.
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By the way that you address me and what my knowledge
is or is NOT about the above mentioned items--
it seems to me that you have zero interest in an
intelligent exchange and are just giving me a
"knee-jerk" reaction to the material.

When you have gone thru the videos and read the
material and wish a dialogue please let me know!
cheers
SK
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Civilizations rise and fall. Religion and universal symbolism have always been and will always be. They are part of the collective psyche of Man. One religion is built up from the ashes of another. They all serve the same function; to anchor our collective psyche, protect us from chaos and direct our thoughts to the higher mental planes. Were it not so we would be no different than the beasts of the field.
There is alot wrong with religion in general today and there is alot wrong with science. But overall they both have gotten a bad rap. Science and religion have always been saying the same things, they just go about it in different ways.

Never throw out the baby with the bath water.

Religion without science is insanity, and science without religion is stupid. -Albert Einstein.
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The "Blade" and "Chalice" thru pyramid-art/France:

[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: SilentlyKnowing


Very interesting!

The image in the preview reminded me of a slide I just made comparing the Ark of the Covenant to a Spark Gap Device...

unclemikey-590

What really caught my attention is that the upper 'blade' looks like HAARP!

[link to www.google.com (secure)]

I see this museum piece as a sort of 'Spark of Life' Transmitter for teleporting a Spirit into a body.

Dang I'm tripping... lol.

Thanks SK!

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There is alot wrong with religion in general today and there is alot wrong with science. But overall they both have gotten a bad rap. Science and religion have always been saying the same things, they just go about it in different ways.

Never throw out the baby with the bath water.

Religion without science is insanity, and science without religion is stupid. -Albert Einstein.
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Civilizations rise and fall. Religion and universal symbolism have always been and will always be. They are part of the collective psyche of Man. One religion is built up from the ashes of another. They all serve the same function; to anchor our collective psyche, protect us from chaos and direct our thoughts to the higher mental planes. Were it not so we would be no different than the beasts of the field.
There is alot wrong with religion in general today and there is alot wrong with science. But overall they both have gotten a bad rap. Science and religion have always been saying the same things, they just go about it in different ways.

Never throw out the baby with the bath water.

Religion without science is insanity, and science without religion is stupid. -Albert Einstein.
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Beautifully summarized, Thank you A.C.!
cheers
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The "Blade" and "Chalice" thru pyramid-art/France:

[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: SilentlyKnowing


Very interesting!

The image in the preview reminded me of a slide I just made comparing the Ark of the Covenant to a Spark Gap Device...

unclemikey-590

What really caught my attention is that the upper 'blade' looks like HAARP!

[link to www.google.com (secure)]

I see this museum piece as a sort of 'Spark of Life' Transmitter for teleporting a Spirit into a body.

Dang I'm tripping... lol.

Thanks SK!

hf
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Interesting take! Great smilie, too! Thanks!
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So The Nobody is LITERALLY the spear of destiny?

I only gave the thread 4 stars, because the poll lacked the option that I would've picked, which is that religions evolve like everything else.

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So The Nobody is LITERALLY the spear of destiny?

I only gave the thread 4 stars, because the poll lacked the option that I would've picked, which is that religions evolve like everything else.
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Not sure about the NOBODY/Spear of Destiny thing...

But, hey! Judge Wimpy! That WAS an option on the poll
...so poney-up that 5th star!! lol!
thanks for sharing.
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Do you know that Jesus was there in the Beginning?

Do you realize that the same patterns run from the beginning of the Bible to the end?

Do you realize Dan Brown is an author of fiction?

Do you realize that every single "religion" or "belief system" has a story about the flood?

HOW do you think that is...?

Because the TRUTH has been here FROM THE BEGINNING. It is like the telephone game, one person hears something then tells another. That second person then tells a third. The story gets CHANGED. But guess what? The Truth never changes.

The LORD told the Israelites to NOT go back to the "gods" of their fathers.
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Well, Christianity WAS plagurized piecemeal from previous earlier religious and cultural traditions of several divergent cultures.

So the surprise here is... what exactly?

The whole thing is a synthetic dogma, created for the speciic purpose of controlling the population, essentially to make them more easily compliant with being swindled and oppressed in any of a myriad of ways.
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Don't you think your conclusion that Hinduism and Buddhism must be the truth (and that Christianity is a ripoff) might be tainted by the fact that ABHIE is from INDIA???

She stated in another thread "Jesus is a MYTH". Hence, she DENIES Him.

OP - if you are interested in God and the Truth, just ask God.
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The Da Vinci Code, while a fun read, is a load of fictional bollocks.
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Pre-Christian religions had stories involving drinking and cutting utensils? And Da Vinci had such objects in his Last Supper picture? Conspiracy!!! I knew it was all a lie! Lmao
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Do you know that Jesus was there in the Beginning?

Do you realize that the same patterns run from the beginning of the Bible to the end?

Do you realize Dan Brown is an author of fiction?

Do you realize that every single "religion" or "belief system" has a story about the flood?

HOW do you think that is...?

Because the TRUTH has been here FROM THE BEGINNING. It is like the telephone game, one person hears something then tells another. That second person then tells a third. The story gets CHANGED. But guess what? The Truth never changes.

The LORD told the Israelites to NOT go back to the "gods" of their fathers.
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This would suggest there are other gods
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This would suggest there are other gods
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Well, Christianity WAS plagurized piecemeal from previous earlier religious and cultural traditions of several divergent cultures.

So the surprise here is... what exactly?

The whole thing is a synthetic dogma, created for the speciic purpose of controlling the population, essentially to make them more easily compliant with being swindled and oppressed in any of a myriad of ways.
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Well...of course it was plagerized from the start by
Constantine and his Royal Family. However, there are
a huge percentage of Christian who do not know this
is the case and even if it were presented--who have
such a knee-jerk reaction to the idea--they would
never accept it!

NOw on top of THIS we have Hollywood spinning their
version of what the symbols mean and doing a real
disservice to other great faiths by tampering with
sacred information--for a buck. I'm just really
disturbed that Tom Hanks, someone who I have really
respected, would be part of this disinformation--even
if it IS labeled "fiction" many take it as fact.

The ONLY reason I have ever heard for why we might give
the Roman Catholic Church a "break" on repackaging
these wonderful ancient symbols and stories in their
own image is this. Someone once said that in the
early years of the church, it was evident that human
societies were so fragile against the changes coming
up--such as floods, plagues and near extinction events
that it was NECESSARY TO HIDE THE TRUTH in the
Christian "story" so that later these symbols and
stories could reveal the truth about our human condition.
If the Vatican had not taken it upon themselves to
be the warehouse of knowledge and recordkeeping during
the 1300's when the Black Plague wiped Europe, much
of our already sparse human history would have been
lost. As it was Western Civilization had to turn to
the Eastern countries for information on medicine and
astronomy. So...in this respect, the Vatican has
been of great service to humanity. It is a mixed bag
at best!
Just sayin...
cheers
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i was doing some Goggle searches on DaVinci and found
this interesting--short--article on his religious
beliefs. This is based on his actual personal notes
and not on just speculation. His own words are quoted
in the article and they are most interesting!~

Check it out!

So...WHAT EXACTLY WAS DAVINCI'S RELIGION?

[link to www.deism.com]

In this long excerpt from his notes, listen to how Leonardo praises reason-based beliefs and criticizes faith-based beliefs:

"I am well aware that because I did not study the ancients, some foolish men will accuse me of being uneducated. They will say that because I did not learn from their schoolbooks, I am unqualified to express an opinion. But I would reply that my conclusions are drawn from firsthand experience, unlike the scholars who only believe what they read in books written by others."

"Although I cannot quote from authors in the same way they do, I shall rely on a much worthier thing, actual experience, which is the only thing that could ever have properly guided the men that they learn from."

"These scholars strut around in a pompous way, without any thoughts of their own, equipped only with the thoughts of others, and they want to stop me from having my own thoughts. And if they despise me for being an inventor, then how much more should they be despised for not being inventors but followers and reciters of the works of others."

and...
Alright, so we have established that da Vinci based his beliefs on reason, not faith. But did he believe in God? Yes.
...NOTE: Less than 25% of the article here.

cheers
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Don't you think your conclusion that Hinduism and Buddhism must be the truth (and that Christianity is a ripoff) might be tainted by the fact that ABHIE is from INDIA???

She stated in another thread "Jesus is a MYTH". Hence, she DENIES Him.

OP - if you are interested in God and the Truth, just ask God.
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Wow A.C.! How did you get THAT CONCLUSION from my thread?

First of all...I have been dealing with the 3 symbols
"The Blade," "The Chalice/Lotus," and "The Holy Grail"
in my analysis of the novel and movie "The DaVinci Code."
Whatever has been said about any of the religions
mentioned have ONLY BEEN IN CONTEXT of this discussion
and to my knowledge, I haven't said one way or another
whether I believe Christianity is a rip-off OR A
BLESSING!
I have a feeling, A.C., that you have not gone
through the material and are just having a knee-jerk
reaction to the title, the reference to Abhie (who
you obviously do NOT particularly like) and the
pictures. I haven't trashed Christianity in this thread
and, if you will look at my opening few sentences I
ask that nobody do any religion-bashing or I will
delete their posts!

I also haven't gone on record personally in the thread
to hold up Buddhism or Hinduism as "the TRUTH" as you
remark above. I am only attempting to bring forward
in this presentation the fact that I just happened to
stumble upon a video by Eckhart Tolle. IN the video
Tolle uses the very SAME HAND GESTURES for those 3
symbols as did Tom Hanks in the movie "The Davinci
Code." The trippy thing is...Eckhart Tolle was NOT
referencing to anything about Christianity, but rather
referring to precepts of Zen Buddhism and Hinduism
(namely "The World of Form" (the Blade) and "unmanifest
reality--or becoming (the Chalice/Lotus)! I found
that to be very interesting! It also blew my mind
how far off-base the interpretation of those symbols
in Dan Brown's "The DaVinci Code" really were! I figured
that he would have done historical research for his
movie...and I believed the original movie explanation
for their meanings! (Silly me!)

I won't comment about Abhie. We are very different
people living in extremely different cultures. I do
consider Abhie a friend on GLP and while some of his
stuff doesn't always ring true for me, we have
collaborated on a couple of projects. That's all I
have to say about that.
Look through the material, now. I think you may
find it quite eye opening if you can get over feeling
threatened about your closely held beliefs. There is
nothing at all threatening in this material. Really!
hf
SK
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I don't always agree with everything you suggest, but I always find your threads to be entertaining and well composed. Thanks for taking the time
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Vry interesting and good work SK!
Bumping this for a later read.

@Judge Wimpy;
Religions cannot evolve.
The parameters scribed in the ancient books cannot be altered, changed or replaced.

But you can . Evolve, that is.

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This may add a little more to your thread...

Thread: THE HOLY GRAIL....THE SANG-REAL SECRET....
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This may add a little more to your thread...

Thread: THE HOLY GRAIL....THE SANG-REAL SECRET....
 Quoting: Settle4It


Thanks Settle4It!
I had a family emergence in May-June of 2013 and that
is why I most likely missed your thread on this, or
maybe my mind was so flustered then that I don't
remember it if I did see it!

I have checked it out--and it is a beautiful thread!
Wow! Great job!

The symbolism supporting the premice (I think the
material is from Wayne Hershel--one of my very
favorite researchers--introducing some beautiful
support to information that points to star maps
to the "Home Star" (which has its own SET OF
SYMBOLISM) and our human star-lineage theory
and possibly being the "Holy Grail" as well for
some cultures.

Wayne Hershel's site:
[link to www.HiddenRecords.com]

My thread is pretty much my own composition which
introduces the idea that symbolism "hidden" in his
painting "The Last Supper" was a deliberate attempt
to both "prank" the Vatican by giving an ALTERNATE
MEANING TO THE SYMBOLS "BLADE" AND "CHALICE" and
also to specifically point viewers of the work back
to the SOURCE of the the symbols (and the Buddhist
"Pointing Finger" symbol--a famous symbol) which
is where the Vatican "lifted" (plagerized) the symbols
from in the first place! It is definitely a wonderful
conspiracy and would have made just as wonderful a
plot to a film as was Dan Brown's "The DaVinci Code!"\

So, yes, while your link to your thread from 2013
"adds" to this thread--they are on two very different
topics and don't really "intersect" at any point--
unless you believe that the VATICAN "LIFETED" the
ORIGINAL HOME-STAR SYMBOLS into their religion
as they did the symbols Davinci was directing us to
investigate! (*That wouldn't surprise me at this
point--they had their sticky fingers into many
different pies, didn't they!) lol!

cheers
SK

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I don't always agree with everything you suggest, but I always find your threads to be entertaining and well composed. Thanks for taking the time
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Sure thing! Different strokes for different folks
as they say! lol!
Love your avatar name--Shawshank Redemption
is one of my favorite films.
cheers
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