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How many Masonic Lodges in the "small" Netherlands? | |
| abhie
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| abhie
(OP) User ID: 60708627 India07/24/2014 11:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here are some assumptions people tend to make: Bodies arrived in Holland = So they must be from the MH17 crash. Bodies arrived in Holland = People died IN the plane after the plane crashed to the ground. Bodies arrived in Holland = those people died in the UKRAINE. Bodies arrived in Holland = those passengers died IN THE PLANE, and not OUTSIDE it, and then the plane crashed. Bodies fell from the sky = those were passengers from the plane falling to the ground FROM THE PLANE. Bodies fell through the roof = that body was alive a few minutes ago before crashing through the roof. Wreckage of plane in photograhs = that belongs to the B777 Engine wreckage seen in photo = belongs to MH17, B777, not any other plane. Wreckage of plane in photo = thats the plane that left Amsterdam Wreckage of plane in photo = it crashed because it was shot down by rebels. Wreckage of plane in photo = that plane was in the air, before it crashed to the ground. (I'm male, mid-40's, and live and work in India as a designer. Writing is a passion of mine, as is painting. My avatar represents my protagonist against the Illuminati -a female warrior.) :laotszungb: |
| abhie
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| abhie
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| abhie
(OP) User ID: 60714101 India07/25/2014 04:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.youtube.com] (I'm male, mid-40's, and live and work in India as a designer. Writing is a passion of mine, as is painting. My avatar represents my protagonist against the Illuminati -a female warrior.) :laotszungb: |
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| abhie
(OP) User ID: 60714101 India07/25/2014 05:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thank you. Have made the correction. The way it was worded got me. But doesn't alter the facts: 145 x 10 members each = 1450 masons in the Netherlands. a quarter of that is 362. Half of that is 180. Im trying to show how a small percentage of the available Masons come to a figure of 180. (I'm male, mid-40's, and live and work in India as a designer. Writing is a passion of mine, as is painting. My avatar represents my protagonist against the Illuminati -a female warrior.) :laotszungb: |
| abhie
(OP) User ID: 60714101 India07/25/2014 05:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i dunno but i do know its the home base of the umbrella corporation.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60700816 Link? (I'm male, mid-40's, and live and work in India as a designer. Writing is a passion of mine, as is painting. My avatar represents my protagonist against the Illuminati -a female warrior.) :laotszungb: |
| #KK#
User ID: 22557975  Australia07/25/2014 05:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You will be surprised. Quoting: abhie How many masonic lodges in the Netherlands? >The largest masonic order in the Netherlands is the Order of Freemasons under the Grand Orient of the Netherlands. Under this order work 162 lodges. Besides the 145 lodges in the Netherlands, there are lodges in the Netherlands Antilles (3), Aruba (2), Surinam (3), South Africa (1) and Zimbabwe (7). The number of members was on january 1st 2008 6,378. 5,792 of them have joined Dutch lodges. The Grand Orient of the Netherlands was founded in 1756 by ten of the at that time existing lodges. Some of them worked under jurisdiction of the English or Scottish Grand Lodge. [link to www.stichtingargus.nl] So, 145 lodges in Netherlands If 145 lodges have 10 mason members each, you get 1450 members in total. A quarter of that is = 362. Half of that is 181 Dutch Freemasons. If 181 Dutch Freemasons were taken into strict confidentiality, couldn't the enormous resources the elite have fabricate a death toll of 173 Dutch people? Im not saying that is the truth, but to see the truth, we need to eliminate the possiblities of a hoax. God keep the souls of all those dead Dutch passengers in peace. >> Next find the total human death toll in the Ukraine civil war. [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] My take on how they use crisis actors: How to use crisis actors> •the people you choose need to be 100% trustworthy. No compromises there. Use either people you know or , your own children or relatives. •Create a separate look for them months or years before the planned event. •Create a network of people who 'know' this person. •On the day of the event, like a fake plane crash, make sure they go to the airport to board the plane. Strings will be pulled to create a fake passenger manifest to include that name in. •CC cameras in the airport will record their arrival. Next, erase their personality,completely. •Let good acting do the rest for the media. 180 Dutch Freemasons , if inducted into an oath of secrecy can create one crisis actor each. Not saying thats how it was, but just going thru the possiblities. "If 307 lodges have 10 mason members each". Curious how you came up with that figure? |
| abhie
(OP) User ID: 60714101 India07/25/2014 05:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This Umbrella corporation? [link to residentevil.wikia.com] Or this? [link to nl-nl.facebook.com (secure)] Last Edited by abhie on 07/25/2014 05:26 AM (I'm male, mid-40's, and live and work in India as a designer. Writing is a passion of mine, as is painting. My avatar represents my protagonist against the Illuminati -a female warrior.) :laotszungb: |
| abhie
(OP) User ID: 60714101 India07/25/2014 05:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You will be surprised. Quoting: abhie How many masonic lodges in the Netherlands? >The largest masonic order in the Netherlands is the Order of Freemasons under the Grand Orient of the Netherlands. Under this order work 162 lodges. Besides the 145 lodges in the Netherlands, there are lodges in the Netherlands Antilles (3), Aruba (2), Surinam (3), South Africa (1) and Zimbabwe (7). The number of members was on january 1st 2008 6,378. 5,792 of them have joined Dutch lodges. The Grand Orient of the Netherlands was founded in 1756 by ten of the at that time existing lodges. Some of them worked under jurisdiction of the English or Scottish Grand Lodge. [link to www.stichtingargus.nl] So, 145 lodges in Netherlands If 145 lodges have 10 mason members each, you get 1450 members in total. A quarter of that is = 362. Half of that is 181 Dutch Freemasons. If 181 Dutch Freemasons were taken into strict confidentiality, couldn't the enormous resources the elite have fabricate a death toll of 173 Dutch people? Im not saying that is the truth, but to see the truth, we need to eliminate the possiblities of a hoax. God keep the souls of all those dead Dutch passengers in peace. >> Next find the total human death toll in the Ukraine civil war. [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] My take on how they use crisis actors: How to use crisis actors> •the people you choose need to be 100% trustworthy. No compromises there. Use either people you know or , your own children or relatives. •Create a separate look for them months or years before the planned event. •Create a network of people who 'know' this person. •On the day of the event, like a fake plane crash, make sure they go to the airport to board the plane. Strings will be pulled to create a fake passenger manifest to include that name in. •CC cameras in the airport will record their arrival. Next, erase their personality,completely. •Let good acting do the rest for the media. 180 Dutch Freemasons , if inducted into an oath of secrecy can create one crisis actor each. Not saying thats how it was, but just going thru the possiblities. "If 307 lodges have 10 mason members each". Curious how you came up with that figure? Edited now. I was working on it, when you read it.Please re-read. My math is terrible. But works . Last Edited by abhie on 07/25/2014 05:26 AM (I'm male, mid-40's, and live and work in India as a designer. Writing is a passion of mine, as is painting. My avatar represents my protagonist against the Illuminati -a female warrior.) :laotszungb: |
| #KK#
User ID: 22557975 Australia07/25/2014 05:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You will be surprised. Quoting: abhie How many masonic lodges in the Netherlands? >The largest masonic order in the Netherlands is the Order of Freemasons under the Grand Orient of the Netherlands. Under this order work 162 lodges. Besides the 145 lodges in the Netherlands, there are lodges in the Netherlands Antilles (3), Aruba (2), Surinam (3), South Africa (1) and Zimbabwe (7). The number of members was on january 1st 2008 6,378. 5,792 of them have joined Dutch lodges. The Grand Orient of the Netherlands was founded in 1756 by ten of the at that time existing lodges. Some of them worked under jurisdiction of the English or Scottish Grand Lodge. [link to www.stichtingargus.nl] So, 145 lodges in Netherlands If 145 lodges have 10 mason members each, you get 1450 members in total. A quarter of that is = 362. Half of that is 181 Dutch Freemasons. If 181 Dutch Freemasons were taken into strict confidentiality, couldn't the enormous resources the elite have fabricate a death toll of 173 Dutch people? Im not saying that is the truth, but to see the truth, we need to eliminate the possiblities of a hoax. God keep the souls of all those dead Dutch passengers in peace. >> Next find the total human death toll in the Ukraine civil war. [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] My take on how they use crisis actors: How to use crisis actors> •the people you choose need to be 100% trustworthy. No compromises there. Use either people you know or , your own children or relatives. •Create a separate look for them months or years before the planned event. •Create a network of people who 'know' this person. •On the day of the event, like a fake plane crash, make sure they go to the airport to board the plane. Strings will be pulled to create a fake passenger manifest to include that name in. •CC cameras in the airport will record their arrival. Next, erase their personality,completely. •Let good acting do the rest for the media. 180 Dutch Freemasons , if inducted into an oath of secrecy can create one crisis actor each. Not saying thats how it was, but just going thru the possiblities. "If 307 lodges have 10 mason members each". Curious how you came up with that figure? Edited now. I was working on it, when you read it.Please re-read. My math is terrible. But works . Sorry, I meant why did you choose 10 in each lodge? |
| abhie
(OP) User ID: 60714101 India07/25/2014 05:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The 10 masons per lodge is an assumption. In reality , there would be more members per lodge. 10 masons per lodge is a base figure. (I'm male, mid-40's, and live and work in India as a designer. Writing is a passion of mine, as is painting. My avatar represents my protagonist against the Illuminati -a female warrior.) :laotszungb: |
| KipKat
User ID: 25952351 Netherlands07/25/2014 05:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| abhie
(OP) User ID: 60714101 India07/25/2014 05:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You will be surprised. Quoting: abhie How many masonic lodges in the Netherlands? >The largest masonic order in the Netherlands is the Order of Freemasons under the Grand Orient of the Netherlands. Under this order work 162 lodges. Besides the 145 lodges in the Netherlands, there are lodges in the Netherlands Antilles (3), Aruba (2), Surinam (3), South Africa (1) and Zimbabwe (7). The number of members was on january 1st 2008 6,378. 5,792 of them have joined Dutch lodges. The Grand Orient of the Netherlands was founded in 1756 by ten of the at that time existing lodges. Some of them worked under jurisdiction of the English or Scottish Grand Lodge. [link to www.stichtingargus.nl] So, 145 lodges in Netherlands If 145 lodges have 10 mason members each, you get 1450 members in total. A quarter of that is = 362. Half of that is 181 Dutch Freemasons. If 181 Dutch Freemasons were taken into strict confidentiality, couldn't the enormous resources the elite have fabricate a death toll of 173 Dutch people? Im not saying that is the truth, but to see the truth, we need to eliminate the possiblities of a hoax. God keep the souls of all those dead Dutch passengers in peace. >> Next find the total human death toll in the Ukraine civil war. [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] My take on how they use crisis actors: How to use crisis actors> •the people you choose need to be 100% trustworthy. No compromises there. Use either people you know or , your own children or relatives. •Create a separate look for them months or years before the planned event. •Create a network of people who 'know' this person. •On the day of the event, like a fake plane crash, make sure they go to the airport to board the plane. Strings will be pulled to create a fake passenger manifest to include that name in. •CC cameras in the airport will record their arrival. Next, erase their personality,completely. •Let good acting do the rest for the media. 180 Dutch Freemasons , if inducted into an oath of secrecy can create one crisis actor each. Not saying thats how it was, but just going thru the possiblities. "If 307 lodges have 10 mason members each". Curious how you came up with that figure? Edited now. I was working on it, when you read it.Please re-read. My math is terrible. But works . Sorry, I meant why did you choose 10 in each lodge? 10 was a basic workig figure. Here is the actual number of masons in the Netherlands: The number of members was on january 1st 2008 6,378. 5,792 of them have joined Dutch lodges. [link to www.stichtingargus.nl] (I'm male, mid-40's, and live and work in India as a designer. Writing is a passion of mine, as is painting. My avatar represents my protagonist against the Illuminati -a female warrior.) :laotszungb: |
| abhie
(OP) User ID: 60714101 India07/25/2014 05:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A quarter of 5792 is 1448 A quarter of 1448 is 362 Half of 362 is 181. So, all you need to do , if you were the elite, will be to take into confidence a half of a quarter of a quarter of the total number of masons in the small Netherlands. (I'm male, mid-40's, and live and work in India as a designer. Writing is a passion of mine, as is painting. My avatar represents my protagonist against the Illuminati -a female warrior.) :laotszungb: |
| #KK#
User ID: 22557975 Australia07/25/2014 05:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 5792 Freemasons in the Netherlands! NOT a small country after all! Origins of Dutch freemasonary can be traced to the Scottish Rite. Quoting: abhie A quarter of 5792 is 1448 A quarter of 1448 is 362 Half of 362 is 181. So, all you need to do , if you were the elite, will be to take into confidence a half of a quarter of a quarter of the total number of masons in the small Netherlands. And, a meeting of the highest order takes place once a year in the Netherlands. "The largest masonic order in the Netherlands is the Order of Freemasons under the Grand Orient of the Netherlands." "The word Grand Orient is also used for the annual meeting of representatvies of the lodges in the Netherlands and overseas. This meeting is the highest college in the Order. Normally there is once a year a Grand Orient, to be held the saturday before or after june 21st in Utrecht." [link to www.stichtingargus.nl] |
| abhie
(OP) User ID: 60714101 India07/25/2014 06:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 5792 Freemasons in the Netherlands! NOT a small country after all! Origins of Dutch freemasonary can be traced to the Scottish Rite. Quoting: abhie A quarter of 5792 is 1448 A quarter of 1448 is 362 Half of 362 is 181. So, all you need to do , if you were the elite, will be to take into confidence a half of a quarter of a quarter of the total number of masons in the small Netherlands. And, a meeting of the highest order takes place once a year in the Netherlands. "The largest masonic order in the Netherlands is the Order of Freemasons under the Grand Orient of the Netherlands." "The word Grand Orient is also used for the annual meeting of representatvies of the lodges in the Netherlands and overseas. This meeting is the highest college in the Order. Normally there is once a year a Grand Orient, to be held the saturday before or after june 21st in Utrecht." [link to www.stichtingargus.nl] The HIGHEST order of Freemasons. Hmmmmm. SOmething like a head-quarters you think? (I'm male, mid-40's, and live and work in India as a designer. Writing is a passion of mine, as is painting. My avatar represents my protagonist against the Illuminati -a female warrior.) :laotszungb: |
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| Halcyon Dayz, FCD
User ID: 37781229 Netherlands07/25/2014 10:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wikipedia.nl reports ca 8200 Freemasons in the Netherlands in 2001, quoting Pieyns, René, Het rijke maçonnieke leven: deel 3 - de universele vrijmetselarij, Fonds Marcel Hofmans, Brussel, 2001. [link to nl.wikipedia.org (secure)] That's about 1 per 2000 people.  Reaching for the sky makes you taller. Hi! My name is Halcyon Dayz and I'm addicted to morans. |
| abhie
(OP) User ID: 36123357 India07/25/2014 11:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why do it the hard way? Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD Wikipedia.nl reports ca 8200 Freemasons in the Netherlands in 2001, quoting Pieyns, René, Het rijke maçonnieke leven: deel 3 - de universele vrijmetselarij, Fonds Marcel Hofmans, Brussel, 2001. [link to nl.wikipedia.org (secure)] That's about 1 per 2000 people. Thanks Halcyon. 8200 Freemasons in the Netherlands. Well, not such a small place after all.  (I'm male, mid-40's, and live and work in India as a designer. Writing is a passion of mine, as is painting. My avatar represents my protagonist against the Illuminati -a female warrior.) :laotszungb: |
