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So, SHTF, can you even carry your BOB?

 
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I hope you can because once you step on my property it's mine.
Oh, trespassers will be shot on sight.
Did I mention that earlier?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60275215


Does that seem harsh? I
WOULD YOU ALLOW AN ARMED ROOTLESS STRANGER WHICH HAS NOTHING BUT THE GEAR ON HIS BACK GET BEHIND YOU??


Do you see the problem now?




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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60275215


This is why it will be the end! Bibletards, right wing extremist , fucktards like you are going to kill people for nothing. Quoting your holy book that gives you power.

People like you will get taken out by your own kind. Then the rest of us will have your shit after all you wing nuts kill each other off.

In America your property is inside your front door. You don't own any land, you are the tenant. Check your paperwork. If there is no law left, just stay home! No one is coming for anyone except them, once they realize they need to go home and protect themselves it will be over.

Anyone that runs to the woods will get hunted down with infrared vision quite easily. Besides what do you think you are bugging out from besides law enforcement? Be real people, no one paid attention to the people telling the truth in the beginning and now it is too late. Unless someone out there has a military sized force ready to go to clean house?

I didn't think so.
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I own what I earned

I understand that they will come to steal.
I shall not abide them.
Unlike any others posting, I refuse to give ground.
None shall pass while I breathe.
That was once America but evidently not any more.
In your breakneck efforts to save yourself you shall die a traitors death..
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I think that a pack should weigh no more than 50 pounds for most people, very athletic people notwithstanding.
Get a sturdy pack and set in on your weigh scale and the first thing that goes in is ten pounds of rice.
Then aluminum small pot and spoon. Then add matches/lighters/fire kit. Then water purification tablets and filter straw. Then a tube of polysporin and small bottle of naproxen or ibuprofen. Then a few fishing hooks and roll of fishing line, 50 feet of real paracord, two folding knives, compass and maps of your area, roll of snare wire and then add some clothes until you are up to 50 pounds. Roll up a winter jacket (even if you don't think you need it) and tie or strap it on the outside of your pack.
Done.
Repeat for each able bodied person in your house.

I think too many people focus on endless gadgets and crap and then have an 80 pound bag and basically a handful of snacks as food. You will need food! Make it the base of your kit. Basic food like rice. Research what was important to real refugees in every war or disaster. It was food that they needed and lack thereof often made them do risky things to get it. If you can hunker down with a bag of rice somewhere you can ride out the disaster for quite a while.
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I think that a pack should weigh no more than 50 pounds for most people, very athletic people notwithstanding.
Get a sturdy pack and set in on your weigh scale and the first thing that goes in is ten pounds of rice.
Then aluminum small pot and spoon. Then add matches/lighters/fire kit. Then water purification tablets and filter straw. Then a tube of polysporin and small bottle of naproxen or ibuprofen. Then a few fishing hooks and roll of fishing line, 50 feet of real paracord, two folding knives, compass and maps of your area, roll of snare wire and then add some clothes until you are up to 50 pounds. Roll up a winter jacket (even if you don't think you need it) and tie or strap it on the outside of your pack.
Done.
Repeat for each able bodied person in your house.

I think too many people focus on endless gadgets and crap and then have an 80 pound bag and basically a handful of snacks as food. You will need food! Make it the base of your kit. Basic food like rice. Research what was important to real refugees in every war or disaster. It was food that they needed and lack thereof often made them do risky things to get it. If you can hunker down with a bag of rice somewhere you can ride out the disaster for quite a while.
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Consider that the military soldiers pack weighs in around 80 pounds. That does not include the other gear that is also carried on their person. So any typical soldier would be carrying at least 100 pounds when you add in their tactical vest, duty belt and weapons.
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I think that a pack should weigh no more than 50 pounds for most people, very athletic people notwithstanding.
Get a sturdy pack and set in on your weigh scale and the first thing that goes in is ten pounds of rice.
Then aluminum small pot and spoon. Then add matches/lighters/fire kit. Then water purification tablets and filter straw. Then a tube of polysporin and small bottle of naproxen or ibuprofen. Then a few fishing hooks and roll of fishing line, 50 feet of real paracord, two folding knives, compass and maps of your area, roll of snare wire and then add some clothes until you are up to 50 pounds. Roll up a winter jacket (even if you don't think you need it) and tie or strap it on the outside of your pack.
Done.
Repeat for each able bodied person in your house.

I think too many people focus on endless gadgets and crap and then have an 80 pound bag and basically a handful of snacks as food. You will need food! Make it the base of your kit. Basic food like rice. Research what was important to real refugees in every war or disaster. It was food that they needed and lack thereof often made them do risky things to get it. If you can hunker down with a bag of rice somewhere you can ride out the disaster for quite a while.
 Quoting: Wordhole


Bring some form of indestructable ID for your body or grave just in case some relations happen by so they can give some shits otherwise you're just another anon looted corpse on the side of the road..
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You could get yourself a good wheelbarrow or a rikshaw.
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For sure bring a 'do not disturb' sign so you're not robbed, molested or murdered in your sleep.
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You could get yourself a good wheelbarrow or a rikshaw.
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Obviously, just bring a Winnebago, what could go wrong, and you can use jf to charge your Ipad and Xbox..
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I hope you can because once you step on my property it's mine.
Oh, trespassers will be shot on sight.
Did I mention that earlier?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60275215


Does that seem harsh? I
WOULD YOU ALLOW AN ARMED ROOTLESS STRANGER WHICH HAS NOTHING BUT THE GEAR ON HIS BACK GET BEHIND YOU??


Do you see the problem now?




R
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60275215



The elephant in the room being ignored is whos property will you steal to squat on, who will you displace to set your own ass down?
Why should you run away to hide and seek safety behind those who
stand their ground and end up unprotected and forced to be the very tip of resistance while all others hide, beg and scavenge/steal?
If everyone runs, if everyone gives ground, the concentrate themselves and further make their destruction easier simply by leaving them cut off and out of supplies or allies since all will attempt to seek their own salvation at the expense of those around them?
You cant win while you abandon everything of value and support.

But thats what you are being taught to do, run away and ultimately self destroy.


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Not necessarily. Some positions are not worth defending. I would not bug-out in all cases but there are cases that I would, its situational. If I were to find myself in a situation where I had to defend my spot every hour of the day against looters, I would consider relocating somewhere else where I could get some reprieve to do other things like finding a clean water supply and food sources.
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Oh I get it, you'll ask for a timeout and move to a better position.

rolls eyes!!
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Does that seem harsh? I
WOULD YOU ALLOW AN ARMED ROOTLESS STRANGER WHICH HAS NOTHING BUT THE GEAR ON HIS BACK GET BEHIND YOU??


Do you see the problem now?




R
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60275215



The elephant in the room being ignored is whos property will you steal to squat on, who will you displace to set your own ass down?
Why should you run away to hide and seek safety behind those who
stand their ground and end up unprotected and forced to be the very tip of resistance while all others hide, beg and scavenge/steal?
If everyone runs, if everyone gives ground, the concentrate themselves and further make their destruction easier simply by leaving them cut off and out of supplies or allies since all will attempt to seek their own salvation at the expense of those around them?
You cant win while you abandon everything of value and support.

But thats what you are being taught to do, run away and ultimately self destroy.


l
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60275215


Not necessarily. Some positions are not worth defending. I would not bug-out in all cases but there are cases that I would, its situational. If I were to find myself in a situation where I had to defend my spot every hour of the day against looters, I would consider relocating somewhere else where I could get some reprieve to do other things like finding a clean water supply and food sources.
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Oh I get it, you'll ask for a timeout and move to a better position.

rolls eyes!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60275215


Why oh why didnt Gen Custer just declare a timeout?
THEY PROBABLY WEREN'T INVENTED YET.
OH THESE MODERN CONVENIENCES!!!
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Does that seem harsh? I
WOULD YOU ALLOW AN ARMED ROOTLESS STRANGER WHICH HAS NOTHING BUT THE GEAR ON HIS BACK GET BEHIND YOU??


Do you see the problem now?




R
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60275215



The elephant in the room being ignored is whos property will you steal to squat on, who will you displace to set your own ass down?
Why should you run away to hide and seek safety behind those who
stand their ground and end up unprotected and forced to be the very tip of resistance while all others hide, beg and scavenge/steal?
If everyone runs, if everyone gives ground, the concentrate themselves and further make their destruction easier simply by leaving them cut off and out of supplies or allies since all will attempt to seek their own salvation at the expense of those around them?
You cant win while you abandon everything of value and support.

But thats what you are being taught to do, run away and ultimately self destroy.


l
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60275215


Not necessarily. Some positions are not worth defending. I would not bug-out in all cases but there are cases that I would, its situational. If I were to find myself in a situation where I had to defend my spot every hour of the day against looters, I would consider relocating somewhere else where I could get some reprieve to do other things like finding a clean water supply and food sources.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1219974


Oh I get it, you'll ask for a timeout and move to a better position.

rolls eyes!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60275215


Oh great one!!! Tell me what I should do then....After all, you probably have a one size fits all plan that covers every single possibility. I guess you are the one that sits around doing nothing waiting for the government to come save you....
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if we obey Christ
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The elephant in the room being ignored is whos property will you steal to squat on, who will you displace to set your own ass down?
Why should you run away to hide and seek safety behind those who
stand their ground and end up unprotected and forced to be the very tip of resistance while all others hide, beg and scavenge/steal?
If everyone runs, if everyone gives ground, the concentrate themselves and further make their destruction easier simply by leaving them cut off and out of supplies or allies since all will attempt to seek their own salvation at the expense of those around them?
You cant win while you abandon everything of value and support.

But thats what you are being taught to do, run away and ultimately self destroy.


l
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60275215


Not necessarily. Some positions are not worth defending. I would not bug-out in all cases but there are cases that I would, its situational. If I were to find myself in a situation where I had to defend my spot every hour of the day against looters, I would consider relocating somewhere else where I could get some reprieve to do other things like finding a clean water supply and food sources.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1219974


Oh I get it, you'll ask for a timeout and move to a better position.

rolls eyes!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60275215


Oh great one!!! Tell me what I should do then....After all, you probably have a one size fits all plan that covers every single possibility. I guess you are the one that sits around doing nothing waiting for the government to come save you....
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Oh no, Im sure a timeout will work if you're surrounded and under assault.
Nobody would dare be so ungallant as to refuse your request to prevail against them.
If you ask nice, they may even help out!
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if we obey Christ
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Truth, like Jesus ran from the moneychangers and hid himself away in fear!
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Re: So, SHTF, can you even carry your BOB?
Yes I can!

I also have a small cart to carry extra stuff as well.

Have multiple solutions to carry your stuff is all I can say.

For example:

Bag 1: Small back pack with basic supplies and 1 day of food
Bag 2: Large Backpack with 3 days of food and more advanced supplies.
Cart: More food, water, heavy tools, extra ammo and weapons.
Vest: Ammo and weapons, compass, map, fire starter.
Duty Belt: Ammo, weapons, compass, fire starter, flashlight

Bag 1 is used to get to bag 2, vest, belt, cart. (about 15 pounds)
Bag 2 is the BOB itself, when combined with the vest and belt I have everything I need to make shelter and survive for a longer period. Enough food to buy me time to find more or hunt/trap. (about 40 pounds)

Cart: is extra, great to have but can do without if needed. Only good if there is a safe or easy path of travel.

Honestly, I would pack up everything in a vehicle as soon as I could and get out of dodge and head toward my BOB location. I already have multiple routes and ways to get there planned.

Rule 1 for bug out: HAVE A PLAN!
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I'm so manly that when the SHTF i'm gonna strip naked. No BOB, no nothing.

Then i'm just going to steal and/or make anything i need.

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I think that a pack should weigh no more than 50 pounds for most people, very athletic people notwithstanding.
Get a sturdy pack and set in on your weigh scale and the first thing that goes in is ten pounds of rice.
Then aluminum small pot and spoon. Then add matches/lighters/fire kit. Then water purification tablets and filter straw. Then a tube of polysporin and small bottle of naproxen or ibuprofen. Then a few fishing hooks and roll of fishing line, 50 feet of real paracord, two folding knives, compass and maps of your area, roll of snare wire and then add some clothes until you are up to 50 pounds. Roll up a winter jacket (even if you don't think you need it) and tie or strap it on the outside of your pack.
Done.
Repeat for each able bodied person in your house.

I think too many people focus on endless gadgets and crap and then have an 80 pound bag and basically a handful of snacks as food. You will need food! Make it the base of your kit. Basic food like rice. Research what was important to real refugees in every war or disaster. It was food that they needed and lack thereof often made them do risky things to get it. If you can hunker down with a bag of rice somewhere you can ride out the disaster for quite a while.
 Quoting: Wordhole


Consider that the military soldiers pack weighs in around 80 pounds. That does not include the other gear that is also carried on their person. So any typical soldier would be carrying at least 100 pounds when you add in their tactical vest, duty belt and weapons.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1219974


Just because the Military can do it, doesn't mean your average Joe/Jane can. They practice road marches for that reason. When I was regluar duty we would do 12 miles, under 3 hours. Considering I was in great shape at the time, I still felt it after I was done. I couldn't imagine that now. I believe the OP has a great point. Those who think they are going to walk with a bug out bag, should train for the scenario.
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Rule 1 for bug out: HAVE A PLAN!

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Oh lordy! Silly me, when I read BOB, I didn't automatically think Bug Out Bag, I thought Battery Operated Boyfriend. tounge

I can carry some of what I think I'll need. Will it be enough or everything? That's the question going through my mind...
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When you run out of batteries, you may need to do things the old fashioned way.
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BOB's are for pussies and Australians.
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I think that a pack should weigh no more than 50 pounds for most people, very athletic people notwithstanding.
Get a sturdy pack and set in on your weigh scale and the first thing that goes in is ten pounds of rice.
Then aluminum small pot and spoon. Then add matches/lighters/fire kit. Then water purification tablets and filter straw. Then a tube of polysporin and small bottle of naproxen or ibuprofen. Then a few fishing hooks and roll of fishing line, 50 feet of real paracord, two folding knives, compass and maps of your area, roll of snare wire and then add some clothes until you are up to 50 pounds. Roll up a winter jacket (even if you don't think you need it) and tie or strap it on the outside of your pack.
Done.
Repeat for each able bodied person in your house.

I think too many people focus on endless gadgets and crap and then have an 80 pound bag and basically a handful of snacks as food. You will need food! Make it the base of your kit. Basic food like rice. Research what was important to real refugees in every war or disaster. It was food that they needed and lack thereof often made them do risky things to get it. If you can hunker down with a bag of rice somewhere you can ride out the disaster for quite a while.
 Quoting: Wordhole


Consider that the military soldiers pack weighs in around 80 pounds. That does not include the other gear that is also carried on their person. So any typical soldier would be carrying at least 100 pounds when you add in their tactical vest, duty belt and weapons.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1219974


Just because the Military can do it, doesn't mean your average Joe/Jane can. They practice road marches for that reason. When I was regluar duty we would do 12 miles, under 3 hours. Considering I was in great shape at the time, I still felt it after I was done. I couldn't imagine that now. I believe the OP has a great point. Those who think they are going to walk with a bug out bag, should train for the scenario.
 Quoting: spoof


This is exactly my point, the difference between fantasy and reality, expectation and delivery.

There have been some great points raised, thanks. I like the bicycle idea and the layered approach.

I have been camping and hiking with the family, which was what prompted me to ask the question in the first place.

Bottom line, I need to get fit and strong, not just for SHTF, but for life too.

Thanks for the posts.
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Don't have a Bug out Bag as our home and property is where we would ride out anything. Living in rural Mississippi, there is no safe place to Bug Out to, as property owners would shoot you or run you off if they found you camped out on their property. If we can't make it at our homestead, we aren't going to make it in the woods.

To answer the OP's question....I carry a Get Home Bag in my truck, so if something happened, such as an earthquake, tornado outbreak, road blocks due to quarantine, etc I have about a 35 mile hike from where I work to where I live. I kept adding to my Get Home Bag and now I have four bags in my truck. One for general items, one for food and water, one for clothes, and one for protective clothing and mask. My wife asked me a few months ago if I could even carry all my stuff, so I tried to and NO I couldn't make it far. I went to Lowes and bought a nice folding expandable dolly and a few more bungy cords!!!!! Now I can strap all my crap to the dolly and head on down the road or RR tracks.
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I think that a pack should weigh no more than 50 pounds for most people, very athletic people notwithstanding.
Get a sturdy pack and set in on your weigh scale and the first thing that goes in is ten pounds of rice.
Then aluminum small pot and spoon. Then add matches/lighters/fire kit. Then water purification tablets and filter straw. Then a tube of polysporin and small bottle of naproxen or ibuprofen. Then a few fishing hooks and roll of fishing line, 50 feet of real paracord, two folding knives, compass and maps of your area, roll of snare wire and then add some clothes until you are up to 50 pounds. Roll up a winter jacket (even if you don't think you need it) and tie or strap it on the outside of your pack.
Done.
Repeat for each able bodied person in your house.

I think too many people focus on endless gadgets and crap and then have an 80 pound bag and basically a handful of snacks as food. You will need food! Make it the base of your kit. Basic food like rice. Research what was important to real refugees in every war or disaster. It was food that they needed and lack thereof often made them do risky things to get it. If you can hunker down with a bag of rice somewhere you can ride out the disaster for quite a while.
 Quoting: Wordhole


Consider that the military soldiers pack weighs in around 80 pounds. That does not include the other gear that is also carried on their person. So any typical soldier would be carrying at least 100 pounds when you add in their tactical vest, duty belt and weapons.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1219974


Just because the Military can do it, doesn't mean your average Joe/Jane can. They practice road marches for that reason. When I was regluar duty we would do 12 miles, under 3 hours. Considering I was in great shape at the time, I still felt it after I was done. I couldn't imagine that now. I believe the OP has a great point. Those who think they are going to walk with a bug out bag, should train for the scenario.
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God damn, why do people take things so fucking literally. I said CONSIDER. I never implied that everyone can carry a 80 pound pack, that is just a baseline to consider for your own needs. FUCK ME.
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Not necessarily. Some positions are not worth defending. I would not bug-out in all cases but there are cases that I would, its situational. If I were to find myself in a situation where I had to defend my spot every hour of the day against looters, I would consider relocating somewhere else where I could get some reprieve to do other things like finding a clean water supply and food sources.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1219974


Oh I get it, you'll ask for a timeout and move to a better position.

rolls eyes!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60275215


Oh great one!!! Tell me what I should do then....After all, you probably have a one size fits all plan that covers every single possibility. I guess you are the one that sits around doing nothing waiting for the government to come save you....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1219974


Oh no, Im sure a timeout will work if you're surrounded and under assault.
Nobody would dare be so ungallant as to refuse your request to prevail against them.
If you ask nice, they may even help out!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60275215


That goes for you to you stupid fuck.
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So, with all the DOOM posts, assume SHTF and you need to bug out because the zombies have overrun the town. The streets are blocked.
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When the zombies have overrun the town and the streets are blocked, it's already far too late !
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Don't have a Bug out Bag as our home and property is where we would ride out anything. Living in rural Mississippi, there is no safe place to Bug Out to, as property owners would shoot you or run you off if they found you camped out on their property. If we can't make it at our homestead, we aren't going to make it in the woods.

To answer the OP's question....I carry a Get Home Bag in my truck, so if something happened, such as an earthquake, tornado outbreak, road blocks due to quarantine, etc I have about a 35 mile hike from where I work to where I live. I kept adding to my Get Home Bag and now I have four bags in my truck. One for general items, one for food and water, one for clothes, and one for protective clothing and mask. My wife asked me a few months ago if I could even carry all my stuff, so I tried to and NO I couldn't make it far. I went to Lowes and bought a nice folding expandable dolly and a few more bungy cords!!!!! Now I can strap all my crap to the dolly and head on down the road or RR tracks.
 Quoting: Jack Stowage 61312551


For some that would not be possible. My area for instance, I live downstream from a dam. If some asshole should decide to blow the dam up, I would be under 10 feet of water, explain how to bug-in in a case like that.
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Don't have a Bug out Bag as our home and property is where we would ride out anything. Living in rural Mississippi, there is no safe place to Bug Out to, as property owners would shoot you or run you off if they found you camped out on their property. If we can't make it at our homestead, we aren't going to make it in the woods.

To answer the OP's question....I carry a Get Home Bag in my truck, so if something happened, such as an earthquake, tornado outbreak, road blocks due to quarantine, etc I have about a 35 mile hike from where I work to where I live. I kept adding to my Get Home Bag and now I have four bags in my truck. One for general items, one for food and water, one for clothes, and one for protective clothing and mask. My wife asked me a few months ago if I could even carry all my stuff, so I tried to and NO I couldn't make it far. I went to Lowes and bought a nice folding expandable dolly and a few more bungy cords!!!!! Now I can strap all my crap to the dolly and head on down the road or RR tracks.
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For some that would not be possible. My area for instance, I live downstream from a dam. If some asshole should decide to blow the dam up, I would be under 10 feet of water, explain how to bug-in in a case like that.
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Re: So, SHTF, can you even carry your BOB?
Don't have a Bug out Bag as our home and property is where we would ride out anything. Living in rural Mississippi, there is no safe place to Bug Out to, as property owners would shoot you or run you off if they found you camped out on their property. If we can't make it at our homestead, we aren't going to make it in the woods.

To answer the OP's question....I carry a Get Home Bag in my truck, so if something happened, such as an earthquake, tornado outbreak, road blocks due to quarantine, etc I have about a 35 mile hike from where I work to where I live. I kept adding to my Get Home Bag and now I have four bags in my truck. One for general items, one for food and water, one for clothes, and one for protective clothing and mask. My wife asked me a few months ago if I could even carry all my stuff, so I tried to and NO I couldn't make it far. I went to Lowes and bought a nice folding expandable dolly and a few more bungy cords!!!!! Now I can strap all my crap to the dolly and head on down the road or RR tracks.
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For some that would not be possible. My area for instance, I live downstream from a dam. If some asshole should decide to blow the dam up, I would be under 10 feet of water, explain how to bug-in in a case like that.
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Refill the tanks?
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Re: So, SHTF, can you even carry your BOB?
During the Vietnam War the North Vietnamese used sturdy bicycles to carry about 300# through the jungles down the Ho Chi Ming Trail all the way from N Vietnam to their staging areas in the jungles in the south (several hundred miles). Didn't ride them ... used them as two wheeled NARROW carts.

Just a thought ... for those who are committed to going into the wilderness withOUT a vehicle. Be sure to get the new aftermarket "solid" tires though so you don't have to worry about tires going flat.

Around here you can buy old style single speed steel framed bicycles at yard sales all day long for about $20. Add in another $60 for solid tires, and then build a cargo frame for it (or get one used by delivery bicycles - yep delivery bicycles are still sometimes still used even in the US), and voila, you have a way to carry lots of weight/gear into the wilderness.

fwiw the US Park Service uses a modern POWERED version of this idea in many cases for carrying the heavier equipment into the wildness that they need for trail building and trail maintaining (instead of using real mules).
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Re: So, SHTF, can you even carry your BOB?
You make a great point OP...I've considered this because my BOB is too heavy.

1- I made a BOB within a BOB, so if the worst comes, I still have a knife, fire starter, metal pot, cordage, and a few other light items.

2- I got a plastic sled (kids snow sliding sled) to drag my BOB.
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#1-- Me too!

I have a standard hiking pack, has a sleeping pack, fleece blanket, extra change of clothes/shoes, bag of rice, PB...basically stuff I could bring in case of a flood/tornado/fire and be comfortable in an arena or someone else's house too.

There's a detachable top portion that becomes a waist pack- what are they called....fanny packs? Mainly food items and first aid, couple bottles of water.

Finally the Camelback. Most important bag- got everything to fit in an empty one- dehydrated pb, ace wrap, bandana, small first aid kit, paracord, water filter (outside, along with a water bottle), *EXTRA PAIR OF SOCKS!* knifes, extra documents, blah, blah, blah.....all the necessary goodies needed. I was quite proud finagling everything into this one.

Whole idea is being able to keep moving if you need to...
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Re: So, SHTF, can you even carry your BOB?
Great input folks, reason I asked was because I doubt I can get far, bad knee, injured toe, wife, kids......

All requires careful planning and thought. Lots for me to think about

Any other input welcome
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Unless you are in a big city, home is the best place to stay. Not all of us has CABINS IN THE WOODS.





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