What marked Jesus heavenly enthronement in1914....... war or peace? What will mark the beginning of his ruler ship?

why isnt the 7 year war included it also included the known world,i dont trust the reasoning behind 1914

and the fact that people try to reason gods timing when it plainly states no man will know the day or the hour,and gives many signs besides so why care when,it never started yet thats a guarantee or we would know

DGN you uninformed dumbshit, thje WTBTS is wrong, Charles Russell worked for Armageddon, they WANT Armageddon you dummie, that's why WW1 was to grab Palestine protectorate per the Kaiser's wishes and Hertzl and such, Rutherford was Bnai Brith who stole the Jehovah Coven Publishing Company to run it as a sacrifice ito WW2 camps.

You're a fuckin idiot and the last 100 years, 1 billion people dead, how DARE you lay that at Jesus' feet I cannot wait until he humbles you but even when camped again and bunking next to gays and others, they still will see themselves as being sheep and lambs.

No where does Jesus say "remain a dumbshit" . He said be like children, and the WTBTS loses 1/3rd of the children born into it, not because they don't care, but that children need to STFU in their church and that makes them essentially, molech-style cults who sacrifice their kids to an ideal. So, STFU talking how WW1 was some holy shit, it was pure evil done by Zionist and Rothschild dickbags.

Guess you didn't read Rv12:7 very well did you?

Nothing! Throw away your phoney bible and repent!

Jesus foretold his enthronement as King would result in turmoil for the earth, as a result of Satan having been cast down here, and stuck to this vicinity, and with only a short time left to rule, Satan has indeed caused "woe" to the earth, as your scripture in Revelation shows




"While he was sitting upon the Mount of Olives, the disciples approached him privately, saying: “Tell us, When will these things be, and what will be the sign of your presence and of the conclusion of the system of things?”
4 And in answer Jesus said to them: “Look out that nobody misleads YOU; 5 for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will mislead many. 6 YOU are going to hear of wars and reports of wars; see that YOU are not terrified. For these things must take place, but the end is not yet.
7 “For nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be food shortages and earthquakes in one place after another. 8 All these things are a beginning of pangs of distress.
9 “Then people will deliver YOU up to tribulation and will kill YOU, and YOU will be objects of hatred by all the nations on account of my name. 10 Then, also, many will be stumbled and will betray one another and will hate one another. 11 And many false prophets will arise and mislead many; 12 and because of the increasing of lawlessness the love of the greater number will cool off. 13 But he that has endured to the end is the one that will be saved. 14 And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come."- Matthew 24:3-14

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Rev. 12 is future, Satan is the prince of the powers of the air; he still has access to God's throne room in heaven where he accuses believers before the Father. Jesus defends us, he is our advocate and dispells these accusations with his work done on the cross.

Ah yes. The old 1914 date that led to several false predictions of the end of the world by the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society (Jehovah's Witnesses).

Nothing to see here, folks. Just like every other ridiculous thread that DGN starts.



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He was always enthroned. He left heaven to come to earth. He rose from the dead gaining another title The first born among the dead. He rose and sat at the right hand of God. All Authority in heaven and earth was at that given to him. Not in 1914.

"Stay alive until 75" ring a bell?

The organization you quote created that teaching not the Word.

1975 had nothing to do with his 1,000 year reign or prophesy, it simply marked 6,000 years from Adam, nothing more.

many are saying that many of the seals have been broken...

Right, we're somewhere into the seventh seal but I can't tell where, it covers about three chapters of revelation.

All of the events in Revelation take place during the "Lord's Day" as John puts it, in other words, the time period we are living in, the Last Days of Satans's rule over the earth. Those last days began in 1914 and will culminate at Armageddon when Satan and his wicked system are destroyed

What a bunch of garbage. You should seek professional help, whackjob

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Missed the boat eh?

lol@ war broke out in heaven.

It is a false teaching as was the stay alive until 75 hoax that the JW's taught.

It is sad to me that people can think that a publishing company has the truth and it was only available to a group of men in Brooklyn NY in the late 18-1900's and that none of the truth was available to any people including the 2000 years of the church around the world until Charles Russell started to publish literature and then and only then was the truth available to men to take to the world from the incorporated publishing companies headquarters.

What the Watchtower said prior to 1914
"The year A.D. 1878 … clearly marks the time for the actual assuming of power as King of kings, by our present, spiritual, invisible Lord - …" The Time is At Hand (1911 ed) p.239
[link to www.jwfacts.com]

"But bear in mind that the end of 1914 is not the date for the beginning, but for the end of the time of trouble. Zion's Watch Tower 1894 Jul 15 p.226
[link to www.jwfacts.com]


What the Watchtower claims it said prior to 1914
The Watchtower has consistently presented evidence to honesthearted students of Bible prophecy that Jesus’ presence in heavenly Kingdom power began in 1914." Watchtower 1993 Jan 15 p.5

"Jehovah's witnesses pointed to the year 1914, decades in advance, as marking the start of "the conclusion of the system of things." Awake! 1973 Jan 22 p.8

The Watchtower Society spent decades promoting its most prominent doctrine that the end would occur in 1914. Should a person trust the Watchtower Society when it was proven so dramatically wrong? Can a person trust the Watchtower Society when it continues to resort to deception when presenting its history? How can a person belong to an organization that refuses to accept responsibility for its mistakes, passing the blame to its faithful followers?

What help do you offer this dying world?
"“Also, there will be signs in sun and moon and stars, and on the earth anguish of nations, not knowing the way out because of the roaring of the sea and [its] agitation, 26 while men become faint out of fear and expectation of the things coming upon the inhabited earth; for the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 27 And then they will see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28 But as these things start to occur, raise yourselves erect and lift YOUR heads up, because YOUR deliverance is getting near.” Lk21:25

Lets see... I think that'd be the birth of A generation... Er... A generation that was old enough... Er.... The general wicked people starting in 1914... Er... oops... Uh...

Don't worry if you don't get this post. You'd have to be an exdub to understand.

He didn't explain what he meant by 'this generation' did he? Do you know?

DGN do so god damn research!

Jerusalem was destroyed in 587 BCE not 607!

Your organization is very disingenuous and honestly, I do not believe that god would approve of such falsehoods. Do you?

Start with that and get back to me.

Again, you are the only ones spreading this lie to fit your agenda.

Don't start throwing facts at them. You know they can't respond to those quotes. They can only retell the false prophecies to manipulate the lies into 'mistakes' just like they were taught in their satanic brainwashing group sessions. Bout as dumb as one can be to take the JW path to hell, Oh yeah, just like the one the rich man went to. The JW zombie will tell you that every single one teachings and parables are all based on events that could actually happen except for His teaching about Lazarus and the rich man. They are forced to believe that this is the one and only teaching from Christ, let alone the Bible, based on a false pretense. Why in the world would Christ teach this if it were not so? He wouldn't so chew on that JW zombies.

It's like you brainless zombies don't even know history at all. More died in wars from 1814-1914 than 1914-present, you guys gave over the ability to think and just regurgitate every thing they spoon feed you.

What is the relevance of wars prior to 1914?

Well I heard a JW zombie once say it was in 1914 that satan was cast down and people dying from WWI and beyond is proof of that. You haven't been taught that or are you playing coy?

Try reading Rv12:7 again, what does it have in common with Rv11:18?
"We thank you, Jehovah God, the Almighty, the One who is and who was, because you have taken your great power and begun ruling as king. 18 But the nations became wrathful, and your own wrath came, and the appointed time for the dead to be judged, and to give [their] reward to your slaves the prophets and to the holy ones and to those fearing your name, the small and the great, and to bring to ruin those ruining the earth.”

There were many aspects of the sign Jesus gave about his presence- wars being one of them, Never before world war 1 was the entire world involved in war, and it has escalated since then, as has all other parts of the signs Jesus gave



"While he was sitting upon the Mount of Olives, the disciples approached him privately, saying: “Tell us, When will these things be, and what will be the sign of your presence and of the conclusion of the system of things?”
4 And in answer Jesus said to them: “Look out that nobody misleads YOU; 5 for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will mislead many. 6 YOU are going to hear of wars and reports of wars; see that YOU are not terrified. For these things must take place, but the end is not yet.
7 “For nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be food shortages and earthquakes in one place after another. 8 All these things are a beginning of pangs of distress."- Matthew 24:3-8

stop trying to mislead me then.