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Anonymous Coward User ID: 49531429 United States 08/05/2014 02:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it'll answer just about every question you'd want to know about what's happening in our world and why it's happening... including how you DON'T want to go into the tunnel of light upon death and how etymology is controlling the world. For those who have more patience than others, please leave some beneficial comments on what you thought about these videos I've done TONS upon TONS of research, reading, experiencing and experimenting...over the past 20 years. And what you said above (about NOT going into the light) is exactly what I've concluded through all my years of research. This is not something many people want to listen to, never mind agree to. Yet all the puzzle pieces point to this conclusion. Thus... I will be watching all 5 hours of your OP video. Thanks for posting. Hmm I have some critical questions & concerns surrounding this theory. -How can anyone currently on Earth claim knowledge as to what will be experienced by taking this course of action (if it is even possible)? No one here can have direct, personal experience from which to speak from. By the very premise of the theory, if you avoid the 'light', you allegedly don't incarnate again. So how can anyone claim knowledge of such an outcome without experiencing it first hand? If it were experienced first hand, that individual would not be here to testify to this course of action. So from a distance, it sounds like serious guesswork because no one here could claim actual knowledge of any such outcome - only belief/faith that it is so. Therefore it rests on a weak foundation. -Do people who subscribe to this theory also believe in the idea of Earthbound spirits, or discarnate souls who by way of strong emotional attachments, remain close to this physical realm/dimension instead of moving on? The claims of hauntings in certain locations by the spirits of deceased individuals who had energetic ties to those locations? If so, how does one know that avoiding the 'light' does not result in such an outcome? In theory those spirits did not go to the 'light' and reincarnate - so how can one claim some favorable outcome by taking that course of action? Does this now allow for the outcome of remaining Earthbound? -How do people know that the experience of light upon physical 'death' is not the experience of one's consciousness/awareness departing and exiting the denser, physical dimension of energetic frequency, and entering the non-physical dimension(s) of energy? Surely there must be some type of sentient experience that accompanies this process. Some who have had NDE's have described passing through not only light but also what is described as wormhole of vibrant colors. -If you read a lot of NDE accounts, people often find themselves being drawn to or pulled into the 'light'. I can't recall accounts of individuals saying they were waiting around consciously contemplating whether to go or not to go. This leads me to believe it's more likely to be part of the death experience/process. The 'light' is commonly described as radiating feelings of indescribable warmth and unconditional love/acceptance - also providing telepathic feedback and direct knowledge/awarenes as to questions that were asked. To experience such emotions and feelings by such an environment, and to judge it as something negative & deceptive - is basically declaring that you have no reliable means for discerning & judging your environment. How else can people evaluate their encounters and environment but by the emotions and the energy that is directly experienced as a result? If you cannot judge by the fruits that are produced - how else can you make judgements? If you were to experience a realm of darkness and a negative, oppressive energy - can that somehow signify that it's a desirable environment that you want to seek out and stay in? Or would you seek to avoid it? How can one claim to know where to gravitate to if one cannot rely on their perception of the energy that is experienced? There is also a 'life review' process that has been experienced by many who have had NDE's and after entering the light - and such an experience has made individuals aware of the effects of their actions and has promoted increased compassion and empathy upon returning to their physical lives. Why would that process take place if there was not a higher purpose behind it? - Lastly, this whole 'soul trap' theory basically paints the picture of an existence that is governed by deception and trickery. It reduces your existence to some dark game that's supposed to fool you into unwanted outcomes. If a person subscribes to such a theory of existence - what makes them think the deception/trickery ends after the 'death' process? What makes someone think the next environment they experience would not contain more of the same? What kind of higher intelligence would create such a process designed to deceive or trick you, and then allow it to be bypassed by a simple conscious decision based on 'knowledge' freely available to humans who apparently never experienced such a course of action? See this opens a rabbit hole that does not lead to a higher awareness or undestanding of the nature of existence. Does this theory also not work against the principle of cause & effect, reaping what you sow? Can serial killers and child abusers/rapists who have created enormous amounts of suffering and negative energy in this lifetime simply follow this directive and 'avoid the light' upon death and be freed from any repercussions & consequences of their actions? Does that make sense and seem fair/just? This theory pretty much cancels out any understanding of the importance and higher purpose of conscious evolution (spiritual growth/development). It negates the process of self-refinement and doing the hard work that's required to grow & develop your nature & state of being. Just wait until you 'die' and follow this simple instruction and you'll be rewarded with some desirable outcome or freedom? It promotes complacency and stagnation IMHO. Forgive me for the lengthy post but it's for all of these reasons that I find several holes in this theory and why it seems highly suspect. It does not feel valid when these criticisms are applied. It sounds more like a theory that is a creation of the human physical mind - which through suffering and undesirable earthly experiences has sought a convenient method of escapism (non-return). This theory often generates fear and uncertainty in individuals surrounding the death process and such emotions are a product of the physical (egoic) mind, which is not an avenue to wisdom and higher understanding. From my perspective it's more likely that you are unlikely to have much influence in what is experienced after the 'death' process. Your consciousness/spirit/soul (whatever you want to call it) is a form of energy and your state of awareness/being is going to determine the frequency of this energy. It will gravitate to similar energy in the non-physical dimension(s). Like attracts like. Those who possess a dark state of being are not going to get some free pass by way of a conscious decision immediately after 'death'. They will likely gravitate to similar energy and that's an experience that is a product of their own doing. Reincarnation is likely an avenue of opportunity that provides for advancement/growth - to ultimately alter one's state of being & thereore the state of existence that is experienced. Yes the hard way - but who said existence was meant to be easy? The cycle is not endless. There is a process playing out and a goal in mind. A state of awareness that is eventually reached - then it's time to move on. Just my subjective opinion/perspective. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 49531429 United States 08/05/2014 02:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You act like you know it all. Take time to learn something new that is outside the box. I know your EGO is huge because you love posting funny pictures and tell everyone else they are wrong. You might learn something when you drop the Ego that keeps you in the Box. Peace So not watching select youtube videos and posting 'funny pictures' is now an indication of a 'huge ego'. Very interesting! How did you arrive at that conclusion? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56346800 United States 08/05/2014 02:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You act like you know it all. Take time to learn something new that is outside the box. I know your EGO is huge because you love posting funny pictures and tell everyone else they are wrong. You might learn something when you drop the Ego that keeps you in the Box. Peace So not watching select youtube videos and posting 'funny pictures' is now an indication of a 'huge ego'. Very interesting! How did you arrive at that conclusion? Lol this. and OPs video is a complete joke. Some truth mixed with a bunch of lies. Way to fall for it again OP, way to go... |
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User ID: 61140546 Serbia 08/05/2014 03:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, this guy got some secret and sacred knowledge, yet he is struggling even with basic Latin words? Not to mention that almost everything in his etymology rambling is wrong. Anybody believing anything the maker of these videos claims, should be embarrassed. “You are a divine being. You matter, you count. You come from realms of unimaginable power and light, and you will return to those realms.” Terence McKenna |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 61089683 United States 08/05/2014 03:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it'll answer just about every question you'd want to know about what's happening in our world and why it's happening... including how you DON'T want to go into the tunnel of light upon death and how etymology is controlling the world. For those who have more patience than others, please leave some beneficial comments on what you thought about these videos Why don't you go the the tunnel of light? That's mean, though it's some funny shit...lol |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27559799 United States 08/05/2014 04:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i love language(s) and have been forever fascinated by etymology and our modern uses of these birthing words and phrases. i would certainly be up for something holding the premise hinted at in the film - however, the creator takes an awful lot of liberties with words and expounds well beyond what was ever intended. a scene from Amadeus comes to mind, where the King and his court insist that Wolfie has used 'too many notes'. Our dear narrator i fear, is guilty of the same... in short: video dude is blinded by what he wants words to mean. mind remains intact. |
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Embernight Walker
User ID: 16713325 United States 08/05/2014 04:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting. Lots to think upon after watching those vids. No solution really given. No solution likely possible. It may just be best to keep getting recycled. Keep reincarnating. Keep feeding them. Who knows what happens if you don't though. Seems we end up in purgatory and ultimately just beg to be scooped up anyway if we don't go to the light. After watching the videos, you won't just feel enlightened somewhat, but defeated. Feels like a battle we lost a long time ago. The scale of the plan is immeasurable. Resistance is futile as it is really assistance. Dire warning of a reset of existence by fire coming soon. Could happen anytime between now and 2217 based on the 216 year theory he mentioned using 9/11 as the start point. Could be wrong about this. Could be within a year or less. We have been warned heavily through media - especially lately. Everything we do - positive and negative - is converted into energy to re-ignite a dead binary sun too. Per the vid, the whole idea of showing the left eye only in Illuminati symbolism is symbolic of the two suns our planet used to have ... 6000 years ago ... they effectively wrote it out of our histories completely. One was blotted out - went out. We apparently cried out to the cosmos for help and they came - for a price. They are tapping us - the real us - for immortality life juice - manna. Reminds me of the Gelflings from the film the Dark Crystal. They want to be gods and we can be. We brought this on ourselves and they laugh at us for it. We are world creators. We create our reality, but not by our own design - but theirs. We manifest it; they design it and channel it to keep us in check. That said, we are far more powerful than them if we ever figured it out, but they have become so good at programming us, no chance to free ourselves now really. In fact, when you stray from their path, they immediately punish you through our own systems of law and oppression, etc. They are energy parasites. All of our energy is funneled through the moon and Saturn to create our reality, to feed them, to ignite the dead sun. I came away somewhat confused as to what is the 2nd sun. Seemed like it was saying Sol is the dead sun and that we have reignited it. Then it seemed to me that it was saying it has just begun "reigniting." Jupiter? Saturn? Another dark object we just can't see yet. This was so unclear. One sun is called On, the other Sol. Sol-om-On. Then it seemed to infer the reignited 2nd sun would be used to cleanse the Earth. Or maybe something else - the spear. Why was the second sun blotted out? Why would we call for help to reignite it if it would just be used to help them reset reality? Maybe that's just the bitter irony of it all. On a positive note, I felt I came away reassured of some of my own views. Found clarification I was looking for as well for some of the questions of existence I have thought about over the years. Interesting. Lots to think about. Believable? Hmmmm. Wizard's First Rule applies. Last Edited by Embernight Walker on 08/05/2014 04:33 AM Wizard's Rule #1: "People are stupid. Given proper motivation, almost anyone will believe almost anything. People will believe a lie because they want to believe it's true, or because they are afraid it might be true. People’s heads are full of knowledge, facts, and beliefs, and most of it is false, yet they think it all true. People can only rarely tell the difference between a lie and the truth, and yet they are confident they can, and so are all the easier to fool." Primordial Rule: "The rule unwritten. It is the secret of all life. It is the essence of life itself. You are a creator and master of your own reality. You ultimately make your own rules." All the Wizard's Rules: [link to sot.wikia.com] |
pspfantammy
User ID: 51496978 United States 08/05/2014 04:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it'll answer just about every question you'd want to know about what's happening in our world and why it's happening...including how you DON'T want to go into the tunnel of light upon death and how etymology is controlling the world. For those who have more patience than others, please leave some beneficial comments on what you thought about these videos I've done TONS upon TONS of research, reading, experiencing and experimenting...over the past 20 years. And what you said above (about NOT going into the light) is exactly what I've concluded through all my years of research. This is not something many people want to listen to, never mind agree to. Yet all the puzzle pieces point to this conclusion. Thus... I will be watching all 5 hours of your OP video. Thanks for posting. Hmm I have some critical questions & concerns surrounding this theory. -How can anyone currently on Earth claim knowledge as to what will be experienced by taking this course of action (if it is even possible)? No one here can have direct, personal experience from which to speak from. By the very premise of the theory, if you avoid the 'light', you allegedly don't incarnate again. So how can anyone claim knowledge of such an outcome without experiencing it first hand? If it were experienced first hand, that individual would not be here to testify to this course of action. So from a distance, it sounds like serious guesswork because no one here could claim actual knowledge of any such outcome - only belief/faith that it is so. Therefore it rests on a weak foundation. -Do people who subscribe to this theory also believe in the idea of Earthbound spirits, or discarnate souls who by way of strong emotional attachments, remain close to this physical realm/dimension instead of moving on? The claims of hauntings in certain locations by the spirits of deceased individuals who had energetic ties to those locations? If so, how does one know that avoiding the 'light' does not result in such an outcome? In theory those spirits did not go to the 'light' and reincarnate - so how can one claim some favorable outcome by taking that course of action? Does this now allow for the outcome of remaining Earthbound? -How do people know that the experience of light upon physical 'death' is not the experience of one's consciousness/awareness departing and exiting the denser, physical dimension of energetic frequency, and entering the non-physical dimension(s) of energy? Surely there must be some type of sentient experience that accompanies this process. Some who have had NDE's have described passing through not only light but also what is described as wormhole of vibrant colors. -If you read a lot of NDE accounts, people often find themselves being drawn to or pulled into the 'light'. I can't recall accounts of individuals saying they were waiting around consciously contemplating whether to go or not to go. This leads me to believe it's more likely to be part of the death experience/process. The 'light' is commonly described as radiating feelings of indescribable warmth and unconditional love/acceptance - also providing telepathic feedback and direct knowledge/awarenes as to questions that were asked. To experience such emotions and feelings by such an environment, and to judge it as something negative & deceptive - is basically declaring that you have no reliable means for discerning & judging your environment. How else can people evaluate their encounters and environment but by the emotions and the energy that is directly experienced as a result? If you cannot judge by the fruits that are produced - how else can you make judgements? If you were to experience a realm of darkness and a negative, oppressive energy - can that somehow signify that it's a desirable environment that you want to seek out and stay in? Or would you seek to avoid it? How can one claim to know where to gravitate to if one cannot rely on their perception of the energy that is experienced? There is also a 'life review' process that has been experienced by many who have had NDE's and after entering the light - and such an experience has made individuals aware of the effects of their actions and has promoted increased compassion and empathy upon returning to their physical lives. Why would that process take place if there was not a higher purpose behind it? - Lastly, this whole 'soul trap' theory basically paints the picture of an existence that is governed by deception and trickery. It reduces your existence to some dark game that's supposed to fool you into unwanted outcomes. If a person subscribes to such a theory of existence - what makes them think the deception/trickery ends after the 'death' process? What makes someone think the next environment they experience would not contain more of the same? What kind of higher intelligence would create such a process designed to deceive or trick you, and then allow it to be bypassed by a simple conscious decision based on 'knowledge' freely available to humans who apparently never experienced such a course of action? See this opens a rabbit hole that does not lead to a higher awareness or undestanding of the nature of existence. Does this theory also not work against the principle of cause & effect, reaping what you sow? Can serial killers and child abusers/rapists who have created enormous amounts of suffering and negative energy in this lifetime simply follow this directive and 'avoid the light' upon death and be freed from any repercussions & consequences of their actions? Does that make sense and seem fair/just? This theory pretty much cancels out any understanding of the importance and higher purpose of conscious evolution (spiritual growth/development). It negates the process of self-refinement and doing the hard work that's required to grow & develop your nature & state of being. Just wait until you 'die' and follow this simple instruction and you'll be rewarded with some desirable outcome or freedom? It promotes complacency and stagnation IMHO. Forgive me for the lengthy post but it's for all of these reasons that I find several holes in this theory and why it seems highly suspect. It does not feel valid when these criticisms are applied. It sounds more like a theory that is a creation of the human physical mind - which through suffering and undesirable earthly experiences has sought a convenient method of escapism (non-return). This theory often generates fear and uncertainty in individuals surrounding the death process and such emotions are a product of the physical (egoic) mind, which is not an avenue to wisdom and higher understanding. From my perspective it's more likely that you are unlikely to have much influence in what is experienced after the 'death' process. Your consciousness/spirit/soul (whatever you want to call it) is a form of energy and your state of awareness/being is going to determine the frequency of this energy. It will gravitate to similar energy in the non-physical dimension(s). Like attracts like. Those who possess a dark state of being are not going to get some free pass by way of a conscious decision immediately after 'death'. They will likely gravitate to similar energy and that's an experience that is a product of their own doing. Reincarnation is likely an avenue of opportunity that provides for advancement/growth - to ultimately alter one's state of being & thereore the state of existence that is experienced. Yes the hard way - but who said existence was meant to be easy? The cycle is not endless. There is a process playing out and a goal in mind. A state of awareness that is eventually reached - then it's time to move on. Just my subjective opinion/perspective. ^^that in bold^^ plus, as a sidenote, I have had the experience in a non physical state of being pulled upward (by my feet!) to another location astrally. I am not sure I could have resisted if I tried. Will there be a similar tug after death? |
Embernight Walker
User ID: 16713325 United States 08/05/2014 04:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh and by the way. It seemed to me that the narrator was indicating that we are not here on Earth. That we think we are here but are really in a vault of some kind. Either in the moon or possibly one of Saturn's moons. We are on ice so-to-speak and taken off ice only to create reality. Those that resist their plan and programming have longer waits between "activations." They leave you on ice. As immortal beings, we beg for "life." We beg to be taken off ice again. Until then we float in what seems to us to be a purgatory of sorts - a watery abyss. Seems to me the Earth does not exist or has been long dead. This really brings the Oblivion movie to mind as well. How the world was destroyed ... cleansed. That the upside down triangular living machine controlled us, breeded us, and for some reason kept seeking to confirm if the two clones were an 'effective team' deserving of being rewarded with a chance to go to Titan. This stuff is deep and the lie so pervasive. One hell of a bummer spell on us if true. Last Edited by Embernight Walker on 08/05/2014 04:55 AM Wizard's Rule #1: "People are stupid. Given proper motivation, almost anyone will believe almost anything. People will believe a lie because they want to believe it's true, or because they are afraid it might be true. People’s heads are full of knowledge, facts, and beliefs, and most of it is false, yet they think it all true. People can only rarely tell the difference between a lie and the truth, and yet they are confident they can, and so are all the easier to fool." Primordial Rule: "The rule unwritten. It is the secret of all life. It is the essence of life itself. You are a creator and master of your own reality. You ultimately make your own rules." All the Wizard's Rules: [link to sot.wikia.com] |
Ozicell
User ID: 59963915 Australia 08/05/2014 05:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this tunnel of light business is bullshit Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58351617 you don't make choices after death, you go where you are meant to go because once you are out of your body, there is no time. time is a construct of our mortal lives and doesn't really exist. time is a way to describe change. once you die, there is no more change, and hence no more time. Hence, no more decisions. Everything just is. So the concept of choosing not to go into the light is simply imspossible in that reality. You either do or do not. Quite correct and so you are already there - you just don't know it yet! That which is - has already been, And what is to be - has already been. Quote: King Solomon. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 61197287 United Kingdom 08/05/2014 06:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | for those who are too lazy to watch this, I feel sorry for you. Once you start watching it, you'll understand why it's impossible to summarize in a paragraph or two Quoting: in5d for those who are too lazy to watch this, I feel sorry for you. Once you start watching it, you'll understand why it's impossible to summarize in a paragraph or two Quoting: in5d 55 minutes in before I fell asleep, it's good confusing but good the guys explaining something that you will never have the chance to be explained again so just take the time to watch and finish it then come to your own conclusion sheeple |
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in5d
(OP) User ID: 58147694 United States 08/05/2014 08:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You fucking dip stick...you mean to tell me that you most likely spent hours putting this crap together, just to satisfy your damn imaginary ego? Go back down in your basement and play with yourself some more...I am back into REM sleep. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61089683 I have my own YouTube channel, dumbass |
in5d
(OP) User ID: 58147694 United States 08/05/2014 08:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I like the videos OP! But I wonder how much of it is true? I would prefer to watch if true, because then alot is thrown off and misinterpreted Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50300342 It all sounds feasible to me and no, these are not my videos, nor is this me commentating on these videos. I wish I knew who it was because I would interview him on my radio show |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1113183 United States 08/05/2014 09:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting. Lots to think upon after watching those vids. No solution really given. No solution likely possible. It may just be best to keep getting recycled. Keep reincarnating. Keep feeding them. Who knows what happens if you don't though. Seems we end up in purgatory and ultimately just beg to be scooped up anyway if we don't go to the light. After watching the videos, you won't just feel enlightened somewhat, but defeated. Feels like a battle we lost a long time ago. The scale of the plan is immeasurable. Resistance is futile as it is really assistance. Quoting: Embernight Walker Dire warning of a reset of existence by fire coming soon. Could happen anytime between now and 2217 based on the 216 year theory he mentioned using 9/11 as the start point. Could be wrong about this. Could be within a year or less. We have been warned heavily through media - especially lately. Everything we do - positive and negative - is converted into energy to re-ignite a dead binary sun too. Per the vid, the whole idea of showing the left eye only in Illuminati symbolism is symbolic of the two suns our planet used to have ... 6000 years ago ... they effectively wrote it out of our histories completely. One was blotted out - went out. We apparently cried out to the cosmos for help and they came - for a price. They are tapping us - the real us - for immortality life juice - manna. Reminds me of the Gelflings from the film the Dark Crystal. They want to be gods and we can be. We brought this on ourselves and they laugh at us for it. We are world creators. We create our reality, but not by our own design - but theirs. We manifest it; they design it and channel it to keep us in check. That said, we are far more powerful than them if we ever figured it out, but they have become so good at programming us, no chance to free ourselves now really. In fact, when you stray from their path, they immediately punish you through our own systems of law and oppression, etc. They are energy parasites. All of our energy is funneled through the moon and Saturn to create our reality, to feed them, to ignite the dead sun. I came away somewhat confused as to what is the 2nd sun. Seemed like it was saying Sol is the dead sun and that we have reignited it. Then it seemed to me that it was saying it has just begun "reigniting." Jupiter? Saturn? Another dark object we just can't see yet. This was so unclear. One sun is called On, the other Sol. Sol-om-On. Then it seemed to infer the reignited 2nd sun would be used to cleanse the Earth. Or maybe something else - the spear. Why was the second sun blotted out? Why would we call for help to reignite it if it would just be used to help them reset reality? Maybe that's just the bitter irony of it all. On a positive note, I felt I came away reassured of some of my own views. Found clarification I was looking for as well for some of the questions of existence I have thought about over the years. Interesting. Lots to think about. Believable? Hmmmm. Wizard's First Rule applies. I am at 1 hour into the part 2 video now. I am getting the same thing. I am also getting that the moon is a spacecraft that is what sucks our energy for the Plan E.T. It seems to me there is truth along with deception as in almost all information. I am glad I am watching and listening to it because it is making me think about it all. As it was said "the way OUT is by going IN". Our free will is what determines our life. I have had many miracles in my life so I know that there is much more to it all. |
in5d
(OP) User ID: 58147694 United States 08/05/2014 10:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hmm I have some critical questions & concerns surrounding this theory. Quoting: ANHEDONIC -How can anyone currently on Earth claim knowledge as to what will be experienced by taking this course of action (if it is even possible)? No one here can have direct, personal experience from which to speak from. By the very premise of the theory, if you avoid the 'light', you allegedly don't incarnate again. So how can anyone claim knowledge of such an outcome without experiencing it first hand? If it were experienced first hand, that individual would not be here to testify to this course of action. So from a distance, it sounds like serious guesswork because no one here could claim actual knowledge of any such outcome - only belief/faith that it is so. Therefore it rests on a weak foundation. -Do people who subscribe to this theory also believe in the idea of Earthbound spirits, or discarnate souls who by way of strong emotional attachments, remain close to this physical realm/dimension instead of moving on? The claims of hauntings in certain locations by the spirits of deceased individuals who had energetic ties to those locations? If so, how does one know that avoiding the 'light' does not result in such an outcome? In theory those spirits did not go to the 'light' and reincarnate - so how can one claim some favorable outcome by taking that course of action? Does this now allow for the outcome of remaining Earthbound? -How do people know that the experience of light upon physical 'death' is not the experience of one's consciousness/awareness departing and exiting the denser, physical dimension of energetic frequency, and entering the non-physical dimension(s) of energy? Surely there must be some type of sentient experience that accompanies this process. Some who have had NDE's have described passing through not only light but also what is described as wormhole of vibrant colors. -If you read a lot of NDE accounts, people often find themselves being drawn to or pulled into the 'light'. I can't recall accounts of individuals saying they were waiting around consciously contemplating whether to go or not to go. This leads me to believe it's more likely to be part of the death experience/process. The 'light' is commonly described as radiating feelings of indescribable warmth and unconditional love/acceptance - also providing telepathic feedback and direct knowledge/awarenes as to questions that were asked. To experience such emotions and feelings by such an environment, and to judge it as something negative & deceptive - is basically declaring that you have no reliable means for discerning & judging your environment. How else can people evaluate their encounters and environment but by the emotions and the energy that is directly experienced as a result? If you cannot judge by the fruits that are produced - how else can you make judgements? If you were to experience a realm of darkness and a negative, oppressive energy - can that somehow signify that it's a desirable environment that you want to seek out and stay in? Or would you seek to avoid it? How can one claim to know where to gravitate to if one cannot rely on their perception of the energy that is experienced? There is also a 'life review' process that has been experienced by many who have had NDE's and after entering the light - and such an experience has made individuals aware of the effects of their actions and has promoted increased compassion and empathy upon returning to their physical lives. Why would that process take place if there was not a higher purpose behind it? - Lastly, this whole 'soul trap' theory basically paints the picture of an existence that is governed by deception and trickery. It reduces your existence to some dark game that's supposed to fool you into unwanted outcomes. If a person subscribes to such a theory of existence - what makes them think the deception/trickery ends after the 'death' process? What makes someone think the next environment they experience would not contain more of the same? What kind of higher intelligence would create such a process designed to deceive or trick you, and then allow it to be bypassed by a simple conscious decision based on 'knowledge' freely available to humans who apparently never experienced such a course of action? See this opens a rabbit hole that does not lead to a higher awareness or undestanding of the nature of existence. Does this theory also not work against the principle of cause & effect, reaping what you sow? Can serial killers and child abusers/rapists who have created enormous amounts of suffering and negative energy in this lifetime simply follow this directive and 'avoid the light' upon death and be freed from any repercussions & consequences of their actions? Does that make sense and seem fair/just? This theory pretty much cancels out any understanding of the importance and higher purpose of conscious evolution (spiritual growth/development). It negates the process of self-refinement and doing the hard work that's required to grow & develop your nature & state of being. Just wait until you 'die' and follow this simple instruction and you'll be rewarded with some desirable outcome or freedom? It promotes complacency and stagnation IMHO. Forgive me for the lengthy post but it's for all of these reasons that I find several holes in this theory and why it seems highly suspect. It does not feel valid when these criticisms are applied. It sounds more like a theory that is a creation of the human physical mind - which through suffering and undesirable earthly experiences has sought a convenient method of escapism (non-return). This theory often generates fear and uncertainty in individuals surrounding the death process and such emotions are a product of the physical (egoic) mind, which is not an avenue to wisdom and higher understanding. From my perspective it's more likely that you are unlikely to have much influence in what is experienced after the 'death' process. Your consciousness/spirit/soul (whatever you want to call it) is a form of energy and your state of awareness/being is going to determine the frequency of this energy. It will gravitate to similar energy in the non-physical dimension(s). Like attracts like. Those who possess a dark state of being are not going to get some free pass by way of a conscious decision immediately after 'death'. They will likely gravitate to similar energy and that's an experience that is a product of their own doing. Reincarnation is likely an avenue of opportunity that provides for advancement/growth - to ultimately alter one's state of being & thereore the state of existence that is experienced. Yes the hard way - but who said existence was meant to be easy? The cycle is not endless. There is a process playing out and a goal in mind. A state of awareness that is eventually reached - then it's time to move on. Just my subjective opinion/perspective. according to one source (I can't use his name here), he states: I am not very keen on many of the 'spirit guides' who come and get you after you have departed from your body at body death; most of them are Sirian Helpers, such as non-physical Vegans and Grays. Be particularly on your guard if they tell you to follow them 'into the light' or 'to the tunnel', or go see relatives. If you choose to go with them, you will end up in the Sirian recycling system again with full amnesia, and then being shot down into a new body here on Earth. This is in alignment with what is said on The Golden Web Part 1: As we know, Hollywood is famous for hiding the truth in plain sight: [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Just by having this knowledge upon death, you can to opt out of the reincarnation process without being persuaded to come back for having to repaying negative karmic debts. Many of those who have predeceased us have already bought into the system but if they have not yet reincarnated or have made a soul contract, then they may also be saved from having to do this, yet again. It's a truly a brilliant strategy by the archons to use the energy of love against us in order to keep us coming back as economic slaves to a system that feeds off of our energies. Remember, "As above, so below". Just about everything we Upon death, we take what we have learned, including our personality. We also vibrate at a certain level, so as you increase your vibration now you will take all of your hard work with you. Remember to connect with your oversoul before entering the tunnel of light or ask your guide to help you to connect to your oversoul. If you wish, you could tell people about the tunnel of light before they enter it. have been taught is a lie, including why we need to constantly incarnate into a system of economic subservience. Upon death, we take what we have learned, including our personality. We also vibrate at a certain level, so as you increase your vibration now you will take all of your hard work with you. Remember to connect with your oversoul before entering the tunnel of light or ask your guide to help you to connect to your oversoul. If you wish, you could tell people about the tunnel of light before they enter it. If you enter the tunnel of light, do not allow any council to convince you that you need to repay any karmic debt. Any perceived karmic debt was part of what you decided to experience. This doesn't mean that you should have no guilt for intentionally harming someone because ultimately, we should love everyone and respect everything. If you do decide to come back to help this planet, do not agree to come back to this 3rd dimensional reality of systemic control through a "soul contract". Come back on your own terms, which includes the remembrances of all previous lives and everything you have learned throughout your incarnations as well as on the other side of the veil. You could come back into a fifth dimensional version of Earth, but only choose this if you are certain that it is a version that is not under the control of the archonic system. You could also choose to come back as a non physical guide to the old 3rd dimensional system to help others, just as our guides have done. Ultimately, your true peace will be found once you realize that YOU are SOURCE/CREATOR and you have the ability to create worlds and galaxies that are harmoniously filled with love outside of this system of control. |
in5d
(OP) User ID: 58147694 United States 08/05/2014 10:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I once had a dream where I was about to incarnate into this 3rd dimensional reality. I was placed in an elevator-like room, which represented the descending process to earth. I remember being in this place many times beforehand but could not remember what I was supposed to do next. I was on the top floor (the 14th floor which meant the 14th dimension?). My memory was so badly erased that I couldn't remember how to descend to Earth. This is a test we receive on the other side to see if any memories were remembered and if so, then you would have to go back and have them cleared again. There were other tests to see what I remembered but I can't recall what they were. These were the last fragmented memories of the other side before I was born. |
in5d
(OP) User ID: 58147694 United States 08/05/2014 10:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you want to go down the rabbit hole a little deeper, then research archons. According to the Gnostic texts, these are beings who reside near the center of the Milky Way Galaxy and feed off of our fear. They are also the ones who are at the "top of the pyramid". According to John Lash's work, he states they they cannot incarnate into the physical form and are only capable of replicating what has already been created. They are jealous of our ability to create. In essence, they placed a computer overlay on Earth that keeps us locked into an interactive app of fear. These are not John Lash's words, it's just an analogy. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Last Edited by in5d on 08/05/2014 10:30 AM |
Watchtower
User ID: 1055324 United States 08/05/2014 10:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this tunnel of light business is bullshit Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58351617 you don't make choices after death, you go where you are meant to go because once you are out of your body, there is no time. time is a construct of our mortal lives and doesn't really exist. time is a way to describe change. once you die, there is no more change, and hence no more time. Hence, no more decisions. Everything just is. So the concept of choosing not to go into the light is simply imspossible in that reality. You either do or do not. THIS x 1000 ^^^^^ is just common sense and should outweigh any theories of "having human choices" once you move on. Interesting...you're using a "human brain" to understand how "human choices" work (or don't work) in a NON-human environment I find it humorous how people make self-righteous, know-it-all comments about a reality they have no experience in. Especially when people have no clue what's even going on our current physical reality. No wonder there are so many self-proclaimed gurus and spiritual leaders running around in history. Everyone thinks they have it all figured out and love to lecture the masses. and you are an expert? LOL Please research after-life experiences from people (over 2 million a year) who come back from the brink of death. Its not rocket science to do the math. They all have the same patterns and none of which had any conscious decision in where they were going. I need science & facts to go by not some new age nonsense as the OP is pushing. Watchtower |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 61195010 United States 08/05/2014 11:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The narrator is making up his own meaning of words by arbitrarily breaking them down however he sees fit. He says the 'au' from 'audio' signifies gold simply because au is the abbreviation for gold on the periodic table??? That's not the etymology of the word. Quoting: ANHEDONIC audio [link to www.etymonline.com] -comes from the Latin term audire, meaning 'to hear' Why is he doing such things? Does that mean the 'he' from 'hello' signifies helium??? Of course not... Very well written reply. I don't put all my stock in a specific theory for what's going on with reality. I like to double check my information sources to determine for myself it's credibility. His suffix and prefix definitions were pretty off. Anyways, just saying thanks for the well written comment. |
in5d
(OP) User ID: 58147694 United States 08/05/2014 11:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | and you are an expert? LOL Please research after-life experiences from people (over 2 million a year) who come back from the brink of death. Its not rocket science to do the math. They all have the same patterns and none of which had any conscious decision in where they were going. I need science & facts to go by not some new age nonsense as the OP is pushing. Quoting: Watchtower someday, you'll get it but not this time around |
Learningtofly
User ID: 21355356 United States 08/05/2014 12:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Great video. Starts a bit slow but it really explains some very interesting things about money, birth and why we are always competing. We are batteries and I have felt that for along time. The info about mortgages and loans was also great. This video is worth the time. I see people arguing about it longer than the video itself. How can someone argue about something they have not seen. It shows how controlled we are to think we know everything without trying to learn new information. Everything is both positive and negative in this dualistic society that uses our energy against us in this very complicated game we all live in. Peace Learningtofly |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33423505 United States 08/05/2014 12:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | First one down. Very interesting stuff. It seems like all animal life is part of a predator (or scavenger or parasite)/prey system. The scales may be grander and more imperceptible than most have imagined. The universe is perfect, and this is our current role and position in this eternal journey. Nothing to be down about. On to part 2... |