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Message Subject Ready for your mind to be blown? Check this out.... The Golden Web
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Anhedonic... Over the years, I've read many of your posts, replies, questions and one-liner jokes :)
I have always been impressed with the way you think and (even more so) how you express yourself.

So I'm delighted to respond to your reply....

First, I will humbly say that my research is just that...research. Butt his subject has been something ive been working on for more years than I care to admit. Because ultimately, there's nothing more important than the subject of our consciousness and what awaits us after we die.

And while I believe there are people in this world with deep knowledge of these subjects, they aren't sharing this knowledge with the rest of us.





5 hours plus is a mind blower. Break it down a bit?
 Quoting: Knightowl


it'll answer just about every question you'd want to know about what's happening in our world and why it's happening... including how you DON'T want to go into the tunnel of light upon death and how etymology is controlling the world.

For those who have more patience than others, please leave some beneficial comments on what you thought about these videos hf
 Quoting: in5d


I've done TONS upon TONS of research, reading, experiencing and experimenting...over the past 20 years. And what you said above (about NOT going into the light) is exactly what I've concluded through all my years of research.

This is not something many people want to listen to, never mind agree to. Yet all the puzzle pieces point to this conclusion. Thus... I will be watching all 5 hours of your OP video. Thanks for posting.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61102887


Hmm I have some critical questions & concerns surrounding this theory.

-How can anyone currently on Earth claim knowledge as to what will be experienced by taking this course of action (if it is even possible)? No one here can have direct, personal experience from which to speak from. By the very premise of the theory, if you avoid the 'light', you allegedly don't incarnate again. So how can anyone claim knowledge of such an outcome without experiencing it first hand? If it were experienced first hand, that individual would not be here to testify to this course of action. So from a distance, it sounds like serious guesswork because no one here could claim actual knowledge of any such outcome - only belief/faith that it is so. Therefore it rests on a weak foundation.

True. And yet...

A) a large majority of people have no idea what's going on in the current physical reality they exist in now. Thus, living people can not claim all knowledge as to what will be experienced by their actions even if a physical experience is possible in the here and now.

B) on the other hand, some people can/do claim knowledge or understanding of things in this world all the time...even without the first hand physical experience. There are two main scenarios of this:
i) those who are deluded and/or confuse beliefs with facts. They convince themselves and others that their subjective BELIEFS are instead objective truths. And they defend their beliefs as some sort of encompassing world truth. And if that doesn't work, they call it their "personal truth." This is how a large percentage of adults think/believe.
ii) those who use some form of "scientific method" of observation, awareness, pattern recognition, proof verification, logic, etc....to determine the most likely "truth", either with or without the benefit of personal experience.





-Do people who subscribe to this theory also believe in the idea of Earthbound spirits, or discarnate souls who by way of strong emotional attachments, remain close to this physical realm/dimension instead of moving on? The claims of hauntings in certain locations by the spirits of deceased individuals who had energetic ties to those locations? If so, how does one know that avoiding the 'light' does not result in such an outcome? In theory those spirits did not go to the 'light' and reincarnate - so how can one claim some favorable outcome by taking that course of action? Does this now allow for the outcome of remaining Earthbound?

Not sure. There are too many variables. These "Hauntings" could be anything. They could be delusions, human psyche creations, non-human dimensional beings, energy forces, etc.

If the light was the path of pure love, laid out to us by a pure loving being, then why do people assume we'd be punished or exiled to earth bound trappings if we decided not to go into the light?

You can see how the current story/belief of afterlife has been ingrained into our psyche. And this story involves fear and punishment if we don't surrender or give immediate obedience





-How do people know that the experience of light upon physical 'death' is not the experience of one's consciousness/awareness departing and exiting the denser, physical dimension of energetic frequency, and entering the non-physical dimension(s) of energy? Surely there must be some type of sentient experience that accompanies this process. Some who have had NDE's have described passing through not only light but also what is described as wormhole of vibrant colors.


Not everyone describes the same thing. Not everyone describes worm holes.
Some report being alone. Some report flying. Many report family or friends. The desire for a sentient being there to greet us will most likely result in a sentient being awaiting the cross over. One thing that seems to be consistent...is that many people get what they want or expect to happen. Which makes me wonder how much is a created experience by the person...or possibly another being is creating the experience to get the crossover to do what they want. If this is happening, then that is simply fraud and lies to control the dead person.




-If you read a lot of NDE accounts, people often find themselves being drawn to or pulled into the 'light'. I can't recall accounts of individuals saying they were waiting around consciously contemplating whether to go or not to go. Or perhaps the soul is so weak, confused or easily controlled, that they already voluntarily gave up their control?

This leads me to believe it's more likely to be part of the death experience/process. The 'light' is commonly described as radiating feelings of indescribable warmth and unconditional love/acceptance - also providing telepathic feedback and direct knowledge/awarenes as to questions that were asked.

Many reports (including the bible) state that evil entities, demons and even lucifer can appear as a beautiful, glowing being. Appearing as an angel yet deceiving the masses.


To experience such emotions and feelings by such an environment, and to judge it as something negative & deceptive - is basically declaring that you have no reliable means for discerning & judging your environment. How else can people evaluate their encounters and environment but by the emotions and the energy that is directly experienced as a result? If you cannot judge by the fruits that are produced - how else can you make judgements? If you were to experience a realm of darkness and a negative, oppressive energy - can that somehow signify that it's a desirable environment that you want to seek out and stay in? Or would you seek to avoid it? How can one claim to know where to gravitate to if one cannot rely on their perception of the energy that is experienced? There is also a 'life review' process that has been experienced by many who have had NDE's and after entering the light - and such an experience has made individuals aware of the effects of their actions and has promoted increased compassion and empathy upon returning to their physical lives. Why would that process take place if there was not a higher purpose behind it?

Too much stress on emotions. Fear, negativity, love, etc...all emotions. Love can be faked by humans right here on earth. Why do we assume spirit beings can't or won't fake the feelings of love too? It's a simple way to get us to bow down and surrender control. What's wrong with questioning emotions, motives and intentions? If I had a teenage daughter who had a boy bring her flowers and tell her he loved her on the first date....you bet I'd tell her to question his motivations, lol.

- Lastly, this whole 'soul trap' theory basically paints the picture of an existence that is governed by deception and trickery. It reduces your existence to some dark game that's supposed to fool you into unwanted outcomes. If a person subscribes to such a theory of existence - what makes them think the deception/trickery ends after the 'death' process? What makes someone think the next environment they experience would not contain more of the same? What kind of higher intelligence would create such a process designed to deceive or trick you, and then allow it to be bypassed by a simple conscious decision based on 'knowledge' freely available to humans who apparently never experienced such a course of action? See this opens a rabbit hole that does not lead to a higher awareness or undestanding of the nature of existence. Does this theory also not work against the principle of cause & effect, reaping what you sow? Can serial killers and child abusers/rapists who have created enormous amounts of suffering and negative energy in this lifetime simply follow this directive and 'avoid the light' upon death and be freed from any repercussions & consequences of their actions? Does that make sense and seem fair/just? This theory pretty much cancels out any understanding of the importance and higher purpose of conscious evolution (spiritual growth/development). It negates the process of self-refinement and doing the hard work that's required to grow & develop your nature & state of being. Just wait until you 'die' and follow this simple instruction and you'll be rewarded with some desirable outcome or freedom? It promotes complacency and stagnation IMHO.

Deceit and trickery among humans does not exclude the possibility of other humans who love and have higher purposes. Likewise, entities waiting at the exit door trying to redirect traffic doesn't exclude a higher path (albeit hidden) to a higher divinity. As far as your comment about serial killers...you're still believing in a higher daddy god that metes out rewards and punishments. Secondly, I doubt many people want to avoid the light. Because not only are they conditioned their whole life to accept daddy god at the cross over, they also follow the feel-good emotions of the light. It would take a lot of mind control, awareness and strength to avoid these entities ...who want nothing more than to recycle human souls. Furthermore, If we are dealing with entities that hijacked the exit door, I really doubt they'd care if a serial killer got reincarnated right back into the earth without any formal wrist-slap.

Forgive me for the lengthy post but it's for all of these reasons that I find several holes in this theory and why it seems highly suspect. It does not feel valid when these criticisms are applied. It sounds more like a theory that is a creation of the human physical mind - which through suffering and undesirable earthly experiences has sought a convenient method of escapism (non-return). This theory often generates fear and uncertainty in individuals surrounding the death process and such emotions are a product of the physical (egoic) mind, which is not an avenue to wisdom and higher understanding.

From my perspective it's more likely that you are unlikely to have much influence in what is experienced after the 'death' process. Your consciousness/spirit/soul (whatever you want to call it) is a form of energy and your state of awareness/being is going to determine the frequency of this energy. It will gravitate to similar energy in the non-physical dimension(s). Like attracts like. Those who possess a dark state of being are not going to get some free pass by way of a conscious decision immediately after 'death'. They will likely gravitate to similar energy and that's an experience that is a product of their own doing. Reincarnation is likely an avenue of opportunity that provides for advancement/growth - to ultimately alter one's state of being & thereore the state of existence that is experienced. Yes the hard way - but who said existence was meant to be easy? The cycle is not endless. There is a process playing out and a goal in mind. A state of awareness that is eventually reached - then it's time to move on. Just my subjective opinion/perspective.

Possibly. but like you said in the first paragraph..our beliefs are usually based on guesses...especially when we've never experienced something. However, Below I've taken the liberty to explain a bit of my research and what makes sense to me...logically. Based on ancient myths, religions, other peoples' experiences, subjective/objective observations and even my own experiences. A lot of my conclusions even include indirect research, things that have nothing to do a with death. In fact, I credit much of glp and digging into the rabbit hole for much of these puzzle pieces working together. I admit it's still mostly guess work. But an image has formed and persisted....much of our control grid extends beyond the physical reality. I remain flexible and open minded for new evidence or information. But to date, I will NOT be following orders from an unknown entity.

tomato
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC





My goal is to research these subjects with an open mind yet maintain critical thinking skills. There is such a variety of sources for this research, subjective/objective experiences, religions, multi-culti experiences, indirect/direct observations, etc

We don't always need to personally experience something in order to understand different levels of it... i don't need to experience a broken bone to know that it is painful.

True....that's an example of a physical experience.

We've been conditioned to accept that the afterlife is a mysterious unknowable existence because we haven't yet experienced death.

If death is the cessation of physical vital functions, then the afterlife is simply a non-physical experience.

We haven't experienced death yet. But, we have millions of non-physical experiences every minute of our physical lives.

Thoughts, ideas, memory, feelings, dreams...all non-physical experiences.
Even if we define the previous items as dependent on physical chemical reactions in the body, modern science agrees that matter is 99.99% empty space.

Our body and mind are controlled by non-physical and physical energy...magnetic and electrical forces.

Consciousness, free will, behavior and self-awareness... all non-physical experiences affecting our physical bodies.

These non-physical experiences not only define and affect physical realities, they can actually exist independently of our physical control. Yet on the flip side, can the physical body exist independently of the non-physical forces? Not at all.

Interestingly, we are discouraged, even ridiculed, for trying to understand death and the afterlife. Thousands of years studying physical life and physical bodies. Discussions of death are taboo. Discussions of the afterlife are only allowed within religious circles.

Instead, we are trained throughout our entire lives that we are insignificant, born in sin, that we are impure children that need to depend on a higher "authority" figure.

It's not a big leap for most humans considering that during most of our lives, we are conditioned to depend on a higher authority figure (parents, teachers, bosses, media and government leaders). That by the time we die, we actually expect the next authority figure to take control of our non-physical irises...., calling it a god, a jesus, an angel, a lucifer...surrendering to the next daddy in line. "Only as children shall ye enter the kingdom of heaven"

Most importantly the hypocrisy of the religious and spiritual teachings of death:

1) almost all religions (including the new age) tell us the afterlife is so mysterious, yet all the answers to the mysteries of life will be bestowed upon us the minute we stop breathing. (While the god of the bible says he is closer to us than our breath)

2) Many religions preach that all the answers of life will be bestowed upon us when we die. (But we are left in a violent world with no instincts, protection or knowledge).

3) That we need guides, masters and angels to help us cross over. (Yet they give no help to people in the physical world). If it's so tragic to die, where are these angels or guides during birth, suicides, extreme physical pain or torture?

4) These guides and angels only care to get involved in our lives AFTER we are dead! Sounds like the typical vulture family members who come out of the woodwork when the rich uncle dies. These "beings" obviously care more about us after we are dead. Which means ...we humans should give more attention to our death and the afterlife. And NOT trust the vultures who only show up when they want something from you.

5) most religions teach surrender, acceptance and obedience. (If you surrendered and gave total obedience to another being on earth, you're life would be a mess. You'd be ridiculed and you'd spend years in the therapist office). Yet rarely does one consider the strange requirement of obedience and surrender in the afterlife.

There is much more to share. But I've jotted down most parts I consider important to this subject.

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