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Joseph and Judah the birthright and the sceptre

 
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Let's just say for fun. Next year or the year after your country the greatest country and super-power in the world was destroyed and you were lucky enough not to have to die from pestilence or starvation. You are taken into captivity and made a slave through what I will call a furnace of affliction. How would you come out of that furnace. Would you seek God or would you curse God. The secret to widson is knowing that history repeats itself. God has 12 tribes of Israel. Only 2 are in geographical Israel today. Those other 10 tribes are going to have to go through the furnace of affliction before they join those other 2 and those other 2 are going to have to come to the realization Jesus is the only way to salvation.

Your world is repetative....day after day the same thing...but soon it will flip upside down and you won't know if today is the last day you live. There are no atheists in foxholes....prepare for you life to change because very soon it will. For the better or for the worse will be your choice.
Knowing the past is to know the future!
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and lets just say, what if you have the wrong "God". then what happens?
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God never changes and when the people of God turn away from God the furnace of affliction is on the way to bring the peoples hearts back to God....I'm sure I have the right God!

If you want to read Deuteronomy 28 you can see exactly what is in store for the nation that once knew God and then turned away from God and kicked God out of it's country....it's not very pretty.
 Quoting: waterman


Better hope the one from the OT is the real deal
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I'd bet eternity on it.
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So how does God bring the House of Israel,now a multitude of gentile nations, back into covenant with him? Through death. The death of his son Jesus. With Jesus's death, God is now free to re-marry. And he wants to re-marry both the House of Judah and the House of Israel. No longer is the House of Israel 'cursed by the law'!!

Paul explains this wonderful story in Romans 7:1-5.
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Names of divided Israel in different pairings in the bible:

Israel (northern kingdom) Judah (southern kingdom)
Jacob (northern kingdom) Israel(southern kingdom)
Ephraim(northern kingdom) Judah (southern kingdom)

The division of leadership will be divided just as the nation is divided, two families/kingdoms...two witnesses:

The northern kingdom will have a leader(Joseph/Ephraim)
The southern kingdom will have a leader(Judah)
These two leaders will be the two witnesses and they will be in charge of uniting these two kingdoms/families

Joseph is represented by the bullock/unicorn as is shown in deut 33 as smiting the people together bringing the lost 10 tribes together:

13 ¶ And of Joseph he said, Blessed of the Lord is his land for the sweetness of heaven, for the dew, and for the [m]depth lying beneath,
14 And for the sweet increase of the Sun, and for the sweet increase of the Moon,
15 And for thy sweetness of the top of the ancient mountains, and for the sweetness of the old hills,
16 And for the sweetness of the earth, and abundance therefore: and the good will of him that dwelt in the [n]bush, shall come upon the head of Joseph, and upon the top of the head of him that was separated from his brethren.
17 His beauty shall be like his firstborn bullock, and his [o]horns as the horns of an unicorn: with them he shall smite the people together, even the ends of the world: these are also the ten thousands of Ephraim, and these are the thousands of Manasseh.

Joseph will recognize Judah but Judah will not recognize Joseph until Judahs purpose is accomplished:
Gen 42:8
King James Bible
And Joseph knew his brethren, but they knew not him.

judahephraim4unibull

Judah is represented by the lion:

judahlion

There are two families just as Jacob was married to two wives:
Leah and Rachael and as ruth tells us the house of Israel was built by these two wives Rachel giving birth to Joseph the birthright holder and Leah giving birth to Judah the sceptre holder and these two will reunite all of Israel being used as that instrument in the hand of God:

Ruth 4:11:
And all the people that were in the gate, and the elders, said, We are witnesses. The LORD make the woman that is come into thine house like Rachel and like Leah, which two did build the house of Israel: and do thou worthily in Ephratah, and be famous in Bethlehem:

1 chronicles 5:2

Jubilee Bible 2000
For Judah prevailed above his brethren and was their prince, but the birthright was Joseph's:)

judahandephraim1



The fact that Jacob’s two wives, Leah and Rachel, are spoken of as "building the House of Israel," of necessity divides the immediate household of Jacob into "two families." In Jeremiah 33:24 they are spoken of as "the two families which the Lord hath chosen." The Covenant promise of the BIRTHRIGHT was given to one of these families, and that of the SCEPTRE to the other family. Rachel was to be the mother of "thousands of millions" while Leah was to be the mother of royalty. Genesis 49:10 shows us that Judah represents the SCEPTRE family; and I Chronicles 5:2 tells us "THE BIRTHRIGHT is Joseph’s." Never try to apply a BIRTHRIGHT blessing to the Jews. Judah and the Jews were excluded from the BIRTHRIGHT promises, Joseph from the SCEPTRE. The BIRTHRIGHT people are not, and are never in the Scriptures called Jews.

In Ezekiel the 37th chapter we are told that "the two sticks" which are still separate, but which are yet to be reunited, represent Judah on the one hand, and Joseph and the "House of Israel" on the other. One of these sticks represents the SCEPTRE people and the other the BIRTHRIGHT people. Judah, the inheritor of the SCEPTRE, is only a half bother to Joseph, the inheritor of the BIRTHRIGHT. The SCEPTRE and the BIRTHRIGHT inheritors are "two-families" with different mothers. How could the distinction between the SCEPTRE and the BIRTHRIGHT families Judah and Israel be more emphatic?

Each leader will be leader of one of the two families. The two leaders will be Joseph and Judah as the northern kingdom inherits the birthright blessing and the southern kingdom inherits the sceptre blessing

Two families two leaders....Judah the king and Joseph the "prime minister"(high priest) each destined to rule in the 1000 year millennium and then sit as prince of priests(Joseph) and prince of kings(Judah/David) on the left and right of Jesus in the new heaven and new earth for all eternity!
Joseph converses with Judah:

Joseph and Judah
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Good thread OP, but wrong map...

The true map of the original kingdom was on Crete. Both the Ideans of Mount Ida now known as the Judeans and the Samaritans of Sa-Maria come from the Holy Island of Crete.

To be Jewish is to be a member of that religion. It has nothing to do with race.

St Bede The Samaritan Levites are what Saint Bede had called "attached to the church." Meaning, they had helped form and create the Catholic Church.

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and lets just say, what if you have the wrong "God". then what happens?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61152983


God never changes and when the people of God turn away from God the furnace of affliction is on the way to bring the peoples hearts back to God....I'm sure I have the right God!

If you want to read Deuteronomy 28 you can see exactly what is in store for the nation that once knew God and then turned away from God and kicked God out of it's country....it's not very pretty.
 Quoting: waterman


Better hope the one from the OT is the real deal
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I'd bet eternity on it.
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you already did
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God never changes and when the people of God turn away from God the furnace of affliction is on the way to bring the peoples hearts back to God....I'm sure I have the right God!

If you want to read Deuteronomy 28 you can see exactly what is in store for the nation that once knew God and then turned away from God and kicked God out of it's country....it's not very pretty.
 Quoting: waterman


Better hope the one from the OT is the real deal
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I'd bet eternity on it.
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you already did
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I'll say amen to that


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Names of divided Israel in different pairings in the bible:

Israel (northern kingdom) Judah (southern kingdom)
Jacob (northern kingdom) Israel(southern kingdom)
Ephraim(northern kingdom) Judah (southern kingdom)

The division of leadership will be divided just as the nation is divided, two families/kingdoms...two witnesses:

The northern kingdom will have a leader(Joseph/Ephraim)
The southern kingdom will have a leader(Judah)
These two leaders will be the two witnesses and they will be in charge of uniting these two kingdoms/families

Joseph is represented by the bullock/unicorn as is shown in deut 33 as smiting the people together bringing the lost 10 tribes together:

13 ¶ And of Joseph he said, Blessed of the Lord is his land for the sweetness of heaven, for the dew, and for the [m]depth lying beneath,
14 And for the sweet increase of the Sun, and for the sweet increase of the Moon,
15 And for thy sweetness of the top of the ancient mountains, and for the sweetness of the old hills,
16 And for the sweetness of the earth, and abundance therefore: and the good will of him that dwelt in the [n]bush, shall come upon the head of Joseph, and upon the top of the head of him that was separated from his brethren.
17 His beauty shall be like his firstborn bullock, and his [o]horns as the horns of an unicorn: with them he shall smite the people together, even the ends of the world: these are also the ten thousands of Ephraim, and these are the thousands of Manasseh.

Joseph will recognize Judah but Judah will not recognize Joseph until Judahs purpose is accomplished:
Gen 42:8
King James Bible
And Joseph knew his brethren, but they knew not him.

judahephraim4unibull

Judah is represented by the lion:

judahlion

There are two families just as Jacob was married to two wives:
Leah and Rachael and as ruth tells us the house of Israel was built by these two wives Rachel giving birth to Joseph the birthright holder and Leah giving birth to Judah the sceptre holder and these two will reunite all of Israel being used as that instrument in the hand of God:

Ruth 4:11:
And all the people that were in the gate, and the elders, said, We are witnesses. The LORD make the woman that is come into thine house like Rachel and like Leah, which two did build the house of Israel: and do thou worthily in Ephratah, and be famous in Bethlehem:

1 chronicles 5:2

Jubilee Bible 2000
For Judah prevailed above his brethren and was their prince, but the birthright was Joseph's:)

judahandephraim1



The fact that Jacob’s two wives, Leah and Rachel, are spoken of as "building the House of Israel," of necessity divides the immediate household of Jacob into "two families." In Jeremiah 33:24 they are spoken of as "the two families which the Lord hath chosen." The Covenant promise of the BIRTHRIGHT was given to one of these families, and that of the SCEPTRE to the other family. Rachel was to be the mother of "thousands of millions" while Leah was to be the mother of royalty. Genesis 49:10 shows us that Judah represents the SCEPTRE family; and I Chronicles 5:2 tells us "THE BIRTHRIGHT is Joseph’s." Never try to apply a BIRTHRIGHT blessing to the Jews. Judah and the Jews were excluded from the BIRTHRIGHT promises, Joseph from the SCEPTRE. The BIRTHRIGHT people are not, and are never in the Scriptures called Jews.

In Ezekiel the 37th chapter we are told that "the two sticks" which are still separate, but which are yet to be reunited, represent Judah on the one hand, and Joseph and the "House of Israel" on the other. One of these sticks represents the SCEPTRE people and the other the BIRTHRIGHT people. Judah, the inheritor of the SCEPTRE, is only a half bother to Joseph, the inheritor of the BIRTHRIGHT. The SCEPTRE and the BIRTHRIGHT inheritors are "two-families" with different mothers. How could the distinction between the SCEPTRE and the BIRTHRIGHT families Judah and Israel be more emphatic?

Each leader will be leader of one of the two families. The two leaders will be Joseph and Judah as the northern kingdom inherits the birthright blessing and the southern kingdom inherits the sceptre blessing

Two families two leaders....Judah the king and Joseph the "prime minister"(high priest) each destined to rule in the 1000 year millennium and then sit as prince of priests(Joseph) and prince of kings(Judah/David) on the left and right of Jesus in the new heaven and new earth for all eternity!
Joseph converses with Judah:

Joseph and Judah
 Quoting: waterman


Good thread OP, but wrong map...

The true map of the original kingdom was on Crete. Both the Ideans of Mount Ida now known as the Judeans and the Samaritans of Sa-Maria come from the Holy Island of Crete.

To be Jewish is to be a member of that religion. It has nothing to do with race.

St Bede The Samaritan Levites are what Saint Bede had called "attached to the church." Meaning, they had helped form and create the Catholic Church.
 Quoting: Gnostic Warrior


I'll agree race has nothing to do with it....id like to see your map
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The two kingdoms were divided. 10 tribes in the north that came to be known as the House of Israel (or Ephraim) and the two tribes to the south that we're known as the House of Judah. Unfortunately, the House of Judah started worshipping other gods. As a result of Israel's unfaithfulness to God, God divorces the northern kingdom of Israel. (Jer 3:8 - "I divorce faithless Israel because of her adultery"). The Assyrians then come in and invade and conquer the House of Israel. As it was prophesied in Genesis 48:19 ("Manasseh will also become a great people, but his younger brother will become even greater. And his descendants will become a multitude of nations") the 10 northern tribes were 'lost' and scattered into many nations. However, the prophet Jeremiah says that the House of Israel will return and "they will bind themselves to the Lord with an eternal covenant that will never be forgotten.". (Jer 50:5).

This was a great mystery to the House of Judah (Jews). After all how can God re-enter into a covenant with adulterous Israel. Does not God's law state (Deut 24:4), "Her former husband, which sent her away, may not take her again to be his wife, after that she is defiled; for that is abomination before the Lord.". As far as the House of Israel is concerned, they are cursed! They could never come back into covenant/marriage with God. After all, God IS the WORD. (John 1:1), and his law is holy, righteous and perfect.

So how, then, can The House of Israel enter into the new covenant of Jeremiah 31:31? ( - "The day is coming when I will make a new covenant with The people of Israel and Judah.....they broke that covenant , though I loved them as a husband loves his wife," says the Lord."). This puzzled the Jews for many centuries! After all, only death could make this law null and void.

So how does God bring the House of Israel,now a multitude of gentile nations, back into covenant with him? Through death. The death of his son Jesus. With Jesus's death, God is now free to re-marry. And he wants to re-marry both the House of Judah and the House of Israel. No longer is the House of Israel 'cursed by the law'!!

Paul explains this wonderful story in Romans 7:1-5.
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Sure, here is Samaria..

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The meaning of the name Zion is ‘stone’, and the meaning of Mount Zion is “The Mount of Stone.”(1) In the bible, Zion was hill in Jerusalem on which the city of David was built; and to the Christians, it is the heavenly city or kingdom of heaven.

The ancient symbology of the stone and mountain, had originated from the black cube-shaped stone that represents the Greek Goddess Cybele who fell to earth as a meteor to Mount Ida on the Holy Island of Crete. This is the island where the King of the Gods, Zeus (Jupiter) was born and hidden in a cave on the same said mountain. The symbols of Cybele are, the black cube stone, meteor, cornucopia, mural crown, chariot and lions. She is the “Great Mountain Mother (Mater Idaea or Idaean Mother)”, who was often depicted in a chariot drawn by lions as if she was circling her pray. Virgil had said that the King Aeneas had ships sacred to Cybele and had decorated his ship’s prow in representation of the sacred Mount Ida and a pair of lions. In Rome, Cybele was known as the Magna Mater.

and here Mount Ida, or Judah....

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1st century Jewish-Roman historian, Josephus Flavius in his book, “The Works of Flavius Josephus.” Joseph essentially calls them the Jud or Jews who are the Tribe of Judah or the Judeans (Idameans) of Mount Ida from the Holy Island of Crete.

In the bible we find the Tribe of Judah was divinely appointed to lead the tribes (1:1-2; 20:18) and were also led by ad hoc leaders known as Judges (see the Book of Judges). Hence “superior papal authority and dominion is derived from the law of the Caesars,” which is today, the Roman Curia.


Before the original people of Zion, or Mount Ida from Crete had come to Rome, they were known as the Idaens. Today they would be known as the Judeans or the Tribe of Judah. Jesus Christ is also a member of the tribe of Judah through King David. He is mentioned as the Lion of Judah. Hence, Jesus and many of his Roman ancestors were known as the Tribe of Judah, who were the original Idaens of Mount Ida in Crete. The same mountain in Jerusalem of the city of David that was also sacred to Cybele and the place of the stone, or Zion. Hence, both King David and Jesus were, what some people would call today, ‘Zionists.”

In the Bible, Mount Zion is synonymous with Mount Moriah, the site of the binding of Isaac and the Jewish Temple. The term is also used for the entire Land of Israel. (Wikipedia) This land, I believe in reality to encompass much of the whole world now, and the modern-day hill we know as Mount Zion, would be the symbolic representation of Zion. Jesus Christ is the cornerstone of Zion through his blood line, kings, and through his church which encompasses all
religions as it is written in Zechariah

10:4; “From Judah will come the cornerstone, from him the tent peg, from him the battle bow, from him every ruler.”



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Finally, some wisdom.

OP, you're a nasty person, and rude to boot. My spirit cannot stand you. Ick.
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Have a nice day...come back some time if you find time

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and to think I was your biggest fan...lol:

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Whatever. I'm done with the deception on this forum, done with it ruining my life. I never fucking wanted to be here in the first place. It's a cesspool of shit and people that deceive you and shit on you and break your heart.
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If opinions of people can ruin your life your putting too much power in the people in your life. You run your own life and you pick the people who don't tear you down because that can be exhausting and does you no good. Those people drain you and leave you feeling helpless. Seek God and everything else will be added to you. Let God be your rock.

God bless and have a good evening.
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And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.

True, God is the rock, but who does He identify with, and what is His greatest commandment? To love thy neighbor as thyself. Relationships with other people do matter, as does their opinion and interaction. We're made in His image and not meant to be alone. He gave His life for the "opinions" of other people. He cared about it, and it broke His heart when they rebelled or rejected Him.

God bless to you too. Seriously.
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Right-on. I've been studying some of this.

I'll read and post later.

Thanks Waterman!

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Btw, your "fans" pic was quite interesting. Is that a woman behind the "big" fans and a man behind the "smaller"? A woman shall compass a man? Whoever heard of such a ridiculous thing? We all know that, as a woman ages, her wrinkles become abhorrent, but not so with a man. With a man, his physical wrinkles become the stuff of Marlboro Man legend.
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A woman shall compass a man? Whoever heard of such a ridiculous thing?
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Yes David will be King over all 12 tribes of Israel.
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David who? DAVID MEYER DE ROTHSCHILD

If this is your idea of a king then you deserve everything that is heading your way.
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and lets just say, what if you have the wrong "God". then what happens?
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God never changes and when the people of God turn away from God the furnace of affliction is on the way to bring the peoples hearts back to God....I'm sure I have the right God!

If you want to read Deuteronomy 28 you can see exactly what is in store for the nation that once knew God and then turned away from God and kicked God out of it's country....it's not very pretty.
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Better hope the one from the OT is the real deal
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I'd bet eternity on it.
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The Law and the Prophets were up until John.

Jesus fulfilled ALL the Law and ALL the Prophets.

From the crucifixion forward is the Gospel of the Kingdom of God, and ALL Mankind presses into it.

Chosen people?

Fuggit about it, that is a doctrine of devils.

If you exist God CHOSE to create you.

Let no Jew mislead you, for Jesus was their salvation and HE was rejected.
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The Parable of the Wicked Tenants

(Mark 12:1-12; Luke 20:9-18)

33Hear another parable: There was a certain householder, which planted a vineyard, and hedged it round about, and digged a winepress in it, and built a tower, and let it out to husbandmen, and went into a far country: 34And when the time of the fruit drew near, he sent his servants to the husbandmen, that they might receive the fruits of it. 35And the husbandmen took his servants, and beat one, and killed another, and stoned another. 36Again, he sent other servants more than the first: and they did unto them likewise. 37But last of all he sent unto them his son, saying, They will reverence my son. 38But when the husbandmen saw the son, they said among themselves, This is the heir; come, let us kill him, and let us seize on his inheritance. 39And they caught him, and cast him out of the vineyard, and slew him. 40When the lord therefore of the vineyard cometh, what will he do unto those husbandmen? 41They say unto him, He will miserably destroy those wicked men, and will let out his vineyard unto other husbandmen, which shall render him the fruits in their seasons.

42Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?

43Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. 44And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.

45And when the chief priests and Pharisees had heard his parables, they perceived that he spake of them. 46But when they sought to lay hands on him, they feared the multitude, because they took him for a prophet.



Make allies with Israel and suffer her fate.
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Wanna see a false prophet?




Does Israel LOOK like a covenant keeping Israel?

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A woman shall compass a man? Whoever heard of such a ridiculous thing?
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African Americans have no portion in the birthright blessings. They are only for white Israel.
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Isaiah 8:20King James Version (KJV)
20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

Proof that the Law of Moses/Eternal Holy Covenant that God made with our ancestors and us is still in effect.
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For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, ABOVE ALL PEOPLE THAT ARE UPON THE FACE OF THE EARTH. Deuteronomy 7:6

Is the word of God 'racist'? White chosen Israel is SUPERIOR!!! Deal with it.

The promised blessings and curses of Deuteronomy 28
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"What is it?" "It's a countdown."

The writings on the wall!!! ;)

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King David of ancient Israel You English ignoramus. He will be King over all Israel. Yea we'll see who "gets everything they deserve" and your' end will be according to your' works.
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So You believe David de Rothschild is the A.C. huh? Keep dreaming, you are not even close.
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African Americans have no portion in the birthright blessings. They are only for white Israel.
 Quoting: Overcomer777


Skin color or national man made created name labels does not determine race or tribe.
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Mark for later
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As a result of Israel's unfaithfulness to God, God divorces the northern kingdom of Israel. (Jer 3:8 - "I divorce faithless Israel because of her adultery").
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Did God really divorce Israel? It does not appear He needed to.

Isaiah 50:1 Thus saith the LORD, Where [is] the bill of your mother's divorcement, whom I have put away? or which of my creditors [is it] to whom I have sold you? Behold, for your iniquities have ye sold yourselves, and for your transgressions is your mother put away.
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As a result of Israel's unfaithfulness to God, God divorces the northern kingdom of Israel. (Jer 3:8 - "I divorce faithless Israel because of her adultery").
 Quoting: 5fries


Did God really divorce Israel? It does not appear He needed to.

Isaiah 50:1 Thus saith the LORD, Where [is] the bill of your mother's divorcement, whom I have put away? or which of my creditors [is it] to whom I have sold you? Behold, for your iniquities have ye sold yourselves, and for your transgressions is your mother put away.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35262456


You can slap a FORD emblem on a Chevy, doesn't make it a FORD.

LOL

As has already been said, the Law and the Prophets were until John.

Don't forget, the ORIGINAL most Holy covenant was with MAN.

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The Seventh Day: God Rests



1Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. 2And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. 3And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.


So God rests from his labors, and while he is resting some mothafucka comes in and takes credit for it all calling himself LORD God, and fucks everything up.

If YOU believe in talking snakes that is.

Who here believes in talking snakes?

Ever seen one?

LOL
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African Americans have no portion in the birthright blessings. They are only for white Israel.
 Quoting: Overcomer777


Skin color or national man made created name labels does not determine race or tribe.
 Quoting: Gnostic Warrior


Membership to the tribes is based on blood/inheritance from the Fathers tribe. The House of Israel and the House of Judah is white skinned. Only white people match the birthright blessings.

And skin color doesn't determine race? Really?

And he sent, and brought him in. Now he was ruddy, and withal of a beautiful countenance, and goodly to look to. And the LORD said, Arise, anoint him: for this is he. 1 Samuel 16:12

King David is even described as having ruddy skin.

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To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne. Revelation 3:21

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Saul/Paul, the false Apostle.
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Isaiah 8:20King James Version (KJV)
20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

Proof that the Law of Moses/Eternal Holy Covenant that God made with our ancestors and us is still in effect.
[link to www.biblegateway.com (secure)]
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For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, ABOVE ALL PEOPLE THAT ARE UPON THE FACE OF THE EARTH. Deuteronomy 7:6

Is the word of God 'racist'? White chosen Israel is SUPERIOR!!! Deal with it.

The promised blessings and curses of Deuteronomy 28
[link to www.biblegateway.com (secure)]

"What is it?" "It's a countdown."

The writings on the wall!!! ;)

:Blood moon777:
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As has already been said, the Law and the Prophets were until John.

Don't forget, the ORIGINAL most Holy covenant was with MAN.

Google: God vs Satan, the Truth by IAMIAM
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52857160


The Law is forever. It did not go anywhere. God is just going to give us his Spirit to guide us through the Law. God did not do a way with his Law. He has given us a guide. The only Law that will be done away is the Law of Sin. We will Sin no more because we follow the Law with the Ruach HaKodesh Guiding us.


Exodus 31:16 Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant.


Exodus 12:17 And ye shall observe the feast of unleavened bread; for in this selfsame day have I brought your armies out of the land of Egypt: therefore shall ye observe this day in your generations by an ordinance for ever.


Leviticus 16:29 And this shall be a statute for ever unto you: that in the seventh month, on the tenth day of the month, ye shall afflict your souls, and do no work at all, whether it be one of your own country, or a stranger that sojourneth among you:


Deuteronomy 5:29 O that there were such an heart in them, that they would fear me, and keep all my commandments always, that it might be well with them, and with their children for ever!





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