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Joseph and Judah the birthright and the sceptre

 
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Can that southern kingdom of Judah see their brother the northern kingdom of Jacob? Being you are the southern kingdom of Judah representative do you think you are going to be able to see more than the kingdom you represent? Don’t believe what you can see. Believe what you read. God blinds the southern kingdom and the representative until the fullness of the gentiles and you fall into that group friend.

They can’t see the other kingdom and as their representative you can’t see the other kingdoms representative

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Wow. Someone is VERY prideful and jealous. I’ve been reading your dribble for years now. Sick of it and the confusion it brings to the body of Christ.
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I have the key to the to the mystery looked for by the multitudes but I don’t have the combination to opening your eyes to seeing it until the fullness of the gentiles because that privilege is reserved for God in the throne room. Til then keep looking for a single anointed king and high priest....pretend they are one office melchelzedek order where one can have both offices instead of two anointed offices of davidic/levitic earthly kingdom offices...melchelzedek order makes Jesus higher than the two anointed and not equal with the one davidic/levitic order anointed....lol.....wake up friend you aren’t equal with Jesus....Jesus will always be the highest. You get 50%...you get to represent his kingship on earth for the duration of the millennium. The other anointed gets the other 50% as he gets to represent the priesthood on earth. When you equal yourself with Jesus start over in your reasoning...lol

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Can that southern kingdom of Judah see their brother the northern kingdom of Jacob? Being you are the southern kingdom of Judah representative do you think you are going to be able to see more than the kingdom you represent? Don’t believe what you can see. Believe what you read. God blinds the southern kingdom and the representative until the fullness of the gentiles and you fall into that group friend.

They can’t see the other kingdom and as their representative you can’t see the other kingdoms representative

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Wow. Someone is VERY prideful and jealous. I’ve been reading your dribble for years now. Sick of it and the confusion it brings to the body of Christ.
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I’m under the next covenant of the next age and am speaking to another of the same covenant so your understanding is minimal and your chime in was not needed...lol
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I have the key to the to the mystery looked for by the multitudes but I don’t have the combination to opening your eyes to seeing it until the fullness of the gentiles because that privilege is reserved for God in the throne room. Til then keep looking for a single anointed king and high priest....pretend they are one office melchelzedek order where one can have both offices instead of two anointed offices of davidic/levitic earthly kingdom offices...melchelzedek order makes Jesus higher than the two anointed and not equal with the one davidic/levitic order anointed....lol.....wake up friend you aren’t equal with Jesus....Jesus will always be the highest. You get 50%...you get to represent his kingship on earth for the duration of the millennium. The other anointed gets the other 50% as he gets to represent the priesthood on earth. When you equal yourself with Jesus start over in your reasoning...lol

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Jesus: YJudean XAaronic/Josephite but someone else had precedence with Aaronic High Priest and Josephite first born king,

John The Baptist: YAaronic XAaronic/Josephite so he had to diminish and die that Jesus could unite all.

It's about reuniting YAdam and XAdam/Eve.

Fake-yoo SoS 666 didn't understand cell biology (Adam=blood dust microscopic particles) so they are giving us Baphomet ancient hermaphrodite child rape-eat horror through Kabalah.

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Aren't these the kingdoms that belong to satan that he tried to bribe Jesus with? Wouldn't they need to be, in order to be seen? Haven't the churches been established since "the time is at hand", explained in Rev?
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I have the key to the to the mystery looked for by the multitudes but I don’t have the combination to opening your eyes to seeing it until the fullness of the gentiles because that privilege is reserved for God in the throne room. Til then keep looking for a single anointed king and high priest....pretend they are one office melchelzedek order where one can have both offices instead of two anointed offices of davidic/levitic earthly kingdom offices...melchelzedek order makes Jesus higher than the two anointed and not equal with the one davidic/levitic order anointed....lol.....wake up friend you aren’t equal with Jesus....Jesus will always be the highest. You get 50%...you get to represent his kingship on earth for the duration of the millennium. The other anointed gets the other 50% as he gets to represent the priesthood on earth. When you equal yourself with Jesus start over in your reasoning...lol

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Jesus: YJudean XAaronic/Josephite but someone else had precedence with Aaronic High Priest and Josephite first born king,

John The Baptist: YAaronic XAaronic/Josephite so he had to diminish and die that Jesus could unite all.

It's about reuniting YAdam and XAdam/Eve.

Fake-yoo SoS 666 didn't understand cell biology (Adam=blood dust microscopic particles) so they are giving us Baphomet ancient hermaphrodite child rape-eat horror through Kabalah.

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Jesus reunites the spiritual masculine/Adam and feminine/Eve and Adam and Eve reunite the northern and southern kingdoms

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Aren't these the kingdoms that belong to satan that he tried to bribe Jesus with? Wouldn't they need to be, in order to be seen? Haven't the churches been established since "the time is at hand", explained in Rev?
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"Posession is 9/10..."

Right by birth is something else.
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Aren't these the kingdoms that belong to satan that he tried to bribe Jesus with? Wouldn't they need to be, in order to be seen? Haven't the churches been established since "the time is at hand", explained in Rev?
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"Posession is 9/10..."

Right by birth is something else.
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This earth is the testing ground to see who will receive eternal life through faith in Jesus. Right now during the age of grace it is the testing of the gentiles to see who will believe in Jesus by faith and is for the bride and tribulation saints to enter heaven. The problem with this age is people are confused by all the denominations so you have division of the people. I think last count was something like 33,000 denomination.

Once this covenant which is the age of grace comes to an end then Jesus and the saints come back to earth to bind Satan and his cohorts. Once Satan is removed from earth the new covenant will go into effect and the people will have a single denomination which will be to follow the law which they will be able to do with Satan removed from earth. So you will have a people who accept Jesus as savior and follow the law for holiness as the shekina glory will be dwelling in the rebuilt temple. Those born on earth will then again have to believe by faith in Jesus just as gentiles have for the last 2000 years.

The earthly kingdom will be davidic/levitic. The heavenly kingdom will be melchelzedek order where those who have been tested will dwell in the higher melchelzedek order kingdom. Once the jues and surviving armeghedon gentiles have finished their faith in Jesus testing after the millennium then Jesus will create a new heaven and new earth where all will be kings and priests in a new melchelzedek order world

Again davidic/levitic means separation of kingship and priesthood. The goal is to become melchelzedek order kings and priests but it can’t happen on this earth because this earth is simply the testing ground and is the wrong realm to be a melchelzedek order kingdom....this earth is always described as “less” than the heavenly....therefore heaven is melchelzedek order which is the combination of the kingly and the priestly and the earth will be davidic/levitic meaning the separation of the kingship and priesthood. Two will have dominion one the earthly king and the other the earthly high priest to lead and guide the people to salvation through Jesus.

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How’s that book going? Hopefully you will know the millennium will be a different covenant than the grace covenant the gentiles are under right now and that God will be dealing with the jues and surviving armeghedon gentiles on earth during the millennium using the two anointed to lead them and guide them. But then again from your responses I highly doubt you do at this time and moment......but you will in the end as I have read the ending......til the end friend.

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This earth is the testing ground to see who will receive eternal life through faith in Jesus. Right now during the age of grace it is the testing of the gentiles to see who will believe in Jesus by faith and is for the bride and tribulation saints to enter heaven. The problem with this age is people are confused by all the denominations so you have division of the people. I think last count was something like 33,000 denomination.

Once this covenant which is the age of grace comes to an end then Jesus and the saints come back to earth to bind Satan and his cohorts. Once Satan is removed from earth the new covenant will go into effect and the people will have a single denomination which will be to follow the law which they will be able to do with Satan removed from earth. So you will have a people who accept Jesus as savior and follow the law for holiness as the shekina glory will be dwelling in the rebuilt temple. Those born on earth will then again have to believe by faith in Jesus just as gentiles have for the last 2000 years.

The earthly kingdom will be davidic/levitic. The heavenly kingdom will be melchelzedek order where those who have been tested will dwell in the higher melchelzedek order kingdom. Once the jues and surviving armeghedon gentiles have finished their faith in Jesus testing after the millennium then Jesus will create a new heaven and new earth where all will be kings and priests in a new melchelzedek order world

Again davidic/levitic means separation of kingship and priesthood. The goal is to become melchelzedek order kings and priests but it can’t happen on this earth because this earth is simply the testing ground and is the wrong realm to be a melchelzedek order kingdom....this earth is always described as “less” than the heavenly....therefore heaven is melchelzedek order which is the combination of the kingly and the priestly and the earth will be davidic/levitic meaning the separation of the kingship and priesthood. Two will have dominion one the earthly king and the other the earthly high priest to lead and guide the people to salvation through Jesus.

:leftrightkingpri:
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The Melchezedek Order is in place now on earth. The Kingdom of Faith and Spirit within believers. Priests and priestesses princes and princesses royalty and priesthood.

The GENUINE Israelites are just showpieces to demonstrate the power and faithfulness of the Creator. The nations kickback a small fraction of 1% and they preside and serve as witnesses of the power and glory.
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This earth is the testing ground to see who will receive eternal life through faith in Jesus. Right now during the age of grace it is the testing of the gentiles to see who will believe in Jesus by faith and is for the bride and tribulation saints to enter heaven. The problem with this age is people are confused by all the denominations so you have division of the people. I think last count was something like 33,000 denomination.

Once this covenant which is the age of grace comes to an end then Jesus and the saints come back to earth to bind Satan and his cohorts. Once Satan is removed from earth the new covenant will go into effect and the people will have a single denomination which will be to follow the law which they will be able to do with Satan removed from earth. So you will have a people who accept Jesus as savior and follow the law for holiness as the shekina glory will be dwelling in the rebuilt temple. Those born on earth will then again have to believe by faith in Jesus just as gentiles have for the last 2000 years.

The earthly kingdom will be davidic/levitic. The heavenly kingdom will be melchelzedek order where those who have been tested will dwell in the higher melchelzedek order kingdom. Once the jues and surviving armeghedon gentiles have finished their faith in Jesus testing after the millennium then Jesus will create a new heaven and new earth where all will be kings and priests in a new melchelzedek order world

Again davidic/levitic means separation of kingship and priesthood. The goal is to become melchelzedek order kings and priests but it can’t happen on this earth because this earth is simply the testing ground and is the wrong realm to be a melchelzedek order kingdom....this earth is always described as “less” than the heavenly....therefore heaven is melchelzedek order which is the combination of the kingly and the priestly and the earth will be davidic/levitic meaning the separation of the kingship and priesthood. Two will have dominion one the earthly king and the other the earthly high priest to lead and guide the people to salvation through Jesus.

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The Melchezedek Order is in place now on earth. The Kingdom of Faith and Spirit within believers. Priests and priestesses princes and princesses royalty and priesthood.

The GENUINE Israelites are just showpieces to demonstrate the power and faithfulness of the Creator. The nations kickback a small fraction of 1% and they preside and serve as witnesses of the power and glory.
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He hasn’t appeared yet so the melchelzedek order is not yet in effect for we shall be like him when he appears.

1 John 3:2:


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Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
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He is looking at the physical masculine and feminine when he should be looking at the spiritual masculine and feminine....the spiritual masculine is the kingship the spiritual feminine is the priesthood. The spiritual union will be when the masculine kingship joins with the spiritual priesthood to bring forth a royal priesthood in a davidic/levitic kingdom for the duration of the millennium



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1. Who were promised dominion? The firstborn and the second born.

2. How do 1st born and 2nd born get along? Less than cordial.

3. What are the dominions during the millennium? It is davidic /levitic so it is kingship and priesthood. As we know 2 are promised dominion so one received the kingship and the other the priesthood.

Simply study relationship between the firstborn and second born and the dominion of the davidic kingship and levitic priesthood and you will see the key that unlocks the scriptures or don’t and agree with the world and believe Jesus wants to rule on the earth in a davic/levitic kingdom where he can’t be king and high priest on earth. Where he trades in his melchelzedek order kingship/priesthood to simply only be king on earth....lol....how do the scholars and wise men of scripture not see that Jesus can’t rule on earth in a davidic/levitic kingdom because it means separation of kingship and priesthood.....eh let them sleep for a short time longer.....lol

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Ruth 4:11:
And all the people that were in the gate, and the elders, said, We are witnesses. The LORD make the woman that is come into thine house like Rachel and like Leah, which two did build the house of Israel: and do thou worthily in Ephratah, and be famous in Bethlehem:

Leah being a firstborn her son judah received the firstborn blessing of the scepter/kingship as we see David has to be from the line of Judah therefore the blessings of Judah is David’s inheritance.

Rachael being the second born was the favored one and her firstborn son Joseph received the birthright which in the end this final son of Joseph will use the birthright to become high priest during the millennium.

1 Chronicles 5:2
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2 For Judah prevailed above his brethren, and of him came the chief ruler; but the birthright was Joseph's:)





Therefore just as Rachael and Leah built the house of Israel this final son of Judah and final son of Joseph will reunite the northern and southern kingdoms of Israel and the house of Israel will once again be whole.

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We see here the two representatives of the two kingdoms of Israel. God will join the two representatives Joseph and Judah and then the two representatives will be sent by God to reunite the two kingdoms to make Israel one house once again.

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The genuine Israelites carry Jacob's Y chromosome or , if female, her father has the Y.

These people are basically showpieces for The Creator's faithfulness.

The faithful become princes and priests, princesses and priestesses, by the Spirit.
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Sword you keep waiting for a second Jesus position...lol.....you aren’t him....you missed the calling in 1978..... now the davidic/levitic is instituted and there are two anointed instead of one just like Moses and Aaron when Moses refused his calling......you seem to think there are no penalties for disobedience....the gifts and callings of God are without repentance but if you refuse the calling he brings in another .....hello I showed up because you refused your call. Now you are ready but God already kept the plan as planned because he already knew your Moses reluctance .

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Gen 49:10:

The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be.

For 2000 years Jesus is the Judah who the gentiles have been gathering to. Once the age of grace is over and the gentiles are in heaven then judah/Jesus will give the scepter to the earthly anointed David who will be from Judah. David will gather the Jues and earthly gentiles for the duration of the millennium.

The word Shiloh means “to him whose right it is” so the scepter departing from Judah is given to shiloh(him whose right it is). So actually the scepter never departs from Judah it is simply handed off from the heavenly Jesus/Judah to the earthly David/Judah. Once the millennium is finished then that scripture will be fulfilled again but the final fulfillment David will be Judah passing the scepter to Jesus/shiloh(him whose right it is) and the earthly Jues and gentiles will finally all be gathered to Shiloh/Jesus and then a new heaven and earth will be created where all from heaven and all from earth will be joined and all will be melchelzedek order kings and priests

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The earth isn't a realm where you can be both king and priest. Only in heaven or the new earth after the millennium can one be both king and priest..so you wont be both until after the millennium just like all the other earth dwellers


Sword you keep trying to live under the brides covenant on earth during the millennium. There is no melchelzedek order kingdom on earth during the millennium. The goal is to get those dwelling on earth to be able to be kings and priests when the new earth is created after the millennium so they can join with the bride and tribulation saints who are already kings and priests because they will be dwelling in heavenly realm where melchelzedek order is permissible because they all passed having faith in the work Jesus did.

The millennium is dealing with the jues and armeghedon gentiles....so the earthly millennium is their test to become kings and priests in the new earth after the millennium just like the bride and tribulation saints didn't become kings and priests until they passed the faith test and entered the next realm(heaven).

You and those dwelling on earth will be back in the former dispensation of the davidic/levitic kingdom during the millennium. You want to just skip over the jues and surviving gentiles on earth having to believe in Jesus by faith in order to attain salvation to become kings and priests right into making everyone kings and priests on this earth before their test even begins.........read Jeremiah and Ezekiel the earthly millennial kingdom is davidic/levitic order not melchelzedek order on earth....so you need a second anointed to be in charge of the priesthood because the king isn’t allowed to have dominion over both the kingship and the priesthood as they are two separate dominions,. That is why God said in genesis 1 to Adam the masculine have dominion the masculine being the kingship and said to Eve the feminine have dominion the feminine being the priesthood

You will sit on the right of Jesus after the millennium because you will serve as the earthly davidic king for over 1000 years representing the davidic kingship.

As we know there is also a seat on the left of Jesus which isn’t hard to figure out that you won’t be sitting on both thrones just so Jesus can turn his head left or right when talking to you...lol so that seat is reserved for the other anointed that served as the earthly high priest for over 1000 years representing the levitic priesthood as a remembrance of the former priesthood and earth for eternity.



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I think the title prince in Ezekiel is confusing you....remember you are the king on earth during the millennium and the son of the king is also known as “the prince”....so David isn’t the only prince....there are two just as there are two Israel’s...you just have to know if it is the kingly prince or the priestly prince....the priestly prince is the one offering sacrifices and eating bread in the gate....David is the one doing the kingly/civil leader duties...learn the difference it’s easy if you realize the millennium is davidic/levitic meaning separation of kingship and priesthood

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Good link on the subject of bowing:



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The difference between culture-based honor and worship

We know because of the incident in Genesis 19:1-3. In this account two angels approach Lot in the gateway of the city of Sodom. When Lot sees them, he gets up “and bowed with his face to the ground.” Lot gets no rebuke from the angels. How come? Precisely because the two angels (quite unlike some Christians today), had enough sense to distinguish between honor and worship.



There’s a whole lotta bowing going on in the Bible

For the remainder of this article I will cite several scripture passages that show that there is nothing wrong with humans honoring each other by the act of bowing.

• Genesis 27:29: “May nations serve you and peoples bow down to you.” (This was Isaac to Jacob)

•1 Kings 1:16: “Bathsheba bowed low and knelt before the king. ‘What is it you want?’ the king asked.” (No rebuke from David)

•1 Samuel 24:8: “Then David went out of the cave and called out to Saul, ‘My Lord and king!’ When Saul looked behind him, David bowed down and prostrated himself with his face to the ground.”






Judah, your brothers will praise you;
your hand will be on the neck of your enemies;
your father’s sons will bow down to you.
9 You are a lion’s cub, Judah;
you return from the prey, my son.
Like a lion he crouches and lies down,
like a lioness—who dares to rouse him?
10 The scepter will not depart from Judah,
nor the ruler’s staff from between his feet,[c]
until he to whom it belongs[d] shall come
and the obedience of the nations shall be his.
11 He will tether his donkey to a vine,
his colt to the choicest branch;
he will wash his garments in wine,
his robes in the blood of grapes.
12 His eyes will be darker than wine,
his teeth whiter than milk.[e]

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As always you never address the question concerning Shiloh or any subject that often is presented. Because anytime the evidence is plainly presented to you, you simply change to another subject and insist that is the only subject matter.

Okay play your game Waterman. Say what ever you like. Doesn't mean your interpretation is nothing more than speculation and traditional meanings of past purposes but not the transitional prospect of a different enlightenment concerning the meaning of the Word.

Fine believe as you like..now leave me alone. You're like trying to teach someone to read who fails to see the words.
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I already addressed Shiloh in the post before yours. Again if Jesus is the Judah ruling the melchelzedek kingdom from heaven and David is the Judah ruling the davidic/levitic kingdom on earth then you can get the double fulfillment of the sceptre shall not depart from Judah until Shiloh comes......the beginning of the millennium Jesus is Judah and David is Shiloh because the people are gathering to david and at the end of the millennium David is the Judah who is departing the sceptre to Shiloh Jesus because then the people will be gathering to Jesus. How am I not addressing your question? I think the problem is you keep trying to be Joseph and Joseph can’t hold the sceptre because that doesn’t come from his line....the sceptre comes from the Judah line ...so Judahs blessings are Davids blessings,
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Joseph was a type of prince in Egypt; a descendant of the man Israel meaning (prince), and held a royal position just below Pharaoh and of royal authority. He wasn't symbolic of a priest as you make him out to be. Joseph/Shiloh is the temporary holder of the scepter. Jesus rules as King and High Priest regardless what you believe. Ask any Christian if Jesus is the King or the High Priest regardless in what realm and find out what is said.

I am done discussing this it's the same old thing with you. I believe you just enjoy causing chaos and seeking an argument
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And that is why that Joseph didn’t receive the end times promise because the end times Joseph will hold the birthright and when the time is right will use it to become the high priest because we already have a king in david


There is a greater than Joseph coming just as the final David will be greater than the former David because these 2 rule for over 1000 years


The difference being Jesus is our melchelzedek order King and High Priest reigning from heaven and David will be the earthly king of the earth dwellers during the millennium because jues always want an earthly king. Jesus is smarter than demoting himself to either king or high priest to rule on earth when he can be both in heaven ....not to mention the people on earth have to believe in Jesus by faith just like the bride and trib saints had to which means Jesus can’t be on earth during the millennium


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I don’t seek an argument but I do know what I see and it lines up perfectly. When I see someone declaring they are from 2 different tribes....when they are performing duties of king and high priest in a kingdom that doesn’t allow it....when they have to be firstborn and second born for their theory to work.....just scratching the surface here....then I’m going to be that guy who raises his hand and says “Excuse me I disagree”.....lol but you already knew that.


Who received the firstborn blessing? Judah.....you are the Adam/firstborn therefore the Judah blessing is yours. The second born is the birthright blessing and we know Joseph got the birthright blessing therefore the other anointeds blessing is the Joseph blessing.

You know why the two greatest blessings are for the firstborn and the second born? Because those two were promised dominion in genesis 1

How do you recognize a second born? He has the birthright.....how do you recognize the firstborn? He has the sceptre......very easy to see who is who

The volume of the book is about the union of the firstborn and second born ....then the division of two and then finally the unity of the firstborn and second born......if you couldn’t tell we are in the division of the firstborn and second born right now....lol


Remember back when we shared sweet council......seems like just yesterday......those days will return....just not today...lol

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Psalm 89:

20 I have found David my servant; with my holy oil have I anointed him:

21 With whom my hand shall be established: mine arm also shall strengthen him.

22 The enemy shall not exact upon him; nor the son of wickedness afflict him.

23 And I will beat down his foes before his face, and plague them that hate him.

24 But my faithfulness and my mercy shall be with him: and in my name shall his horn be exalted.

25 I will set his hand also in the sea, and his right hand in the rivers.

26 He shall cry unto me, Thou art my father, my God, and the rock of my salvation.

27 Also I will make him my firstborn, higher than the kings of the earth.


Jeremiah 30:9


King James Bible
But they shall serve the LORD their God, and David their king, whom I will raise up unto them.




So we see 2 things here that David is the first born and is the earthly king.

Being David Is the firstborn we know he gets the firstborn blessing which is the Judah blessing. The Judah blessing is the sceptre which lines up with David being king on earth

So after the millennium David will sit on the right of Jesus. If David is firstborn and king sitting on the right of Jesus it is very easy to see the one on the left of Jesus will be the second born which means they have the birthright blessing making them qualified to be the earthly high priest

So David on the right as firstborn and king from the line of Judah and the birthright line is Joseph so the other anointed is Joseph and his dominion is the levitic priesthood for over 1000 years

Who in heaven would ever be able to say “ I kinda think that seat up there should have been mine”. When all the servants only served one lifetime and these two will serve for over 1000 years

If Elijah sat on the left of Jesus for serving for less than 7 years and all he did was be a messenger I think you would have plenty of people looking at that guy like “ really you need to sit down from that hard time of being a messenger”? That guy would look like a fool sitting up there for such a small task when Moses and Aaron were in the desert with the people for over 40 years...lol


You can’t have David on the right of Jesus representing the earthly davidic millennial kingship who ruled for over 1000 years and not have someone on Jesus left with equally impressive credentials and that’s why the guy on the left of Jesus will have ruled as the levitic high priest just as long as David does as davidic king.

David will be on the right because he is firstborn and will rule the millennium as king for over 1000 years. Joseph will be on the left because he will have the second born blessing of the birthright and be high priest for over 1000 years

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Psalm 89:

20 I have found David my servant; with my holy oil have I anointed him:

21 With whom my hand shall be established: mine arm also shall strengthen him.

22 The enemy shall not exact upon him; nor the son of wickedness afflict him.

23 And I will beat down his foes before his face, and plague them that hate him.

24 But my faithfulness and my mercy shall be with him: and in my name shall his horn be exalted.

25 I will set his hand also in the sea, and his right hand in the rivers.

26 He shall cry unto me, Thou art my father, my God, and the rock of my salvation.

27 Also I will make him my firstborn, higher than the kings of the earth.


Jeremiah 30:9


King James Bible
But they shall serve the LORD their God, and David their king, whom I will raise up unto them.




So we see 2 things here that David is the first born and is the earthly king.

Being David Is the firstborn we know he gets the firstborn blessing which is the Judah blessing. The Judah blessing is the sceptre which lines up with David being king on earth

So after the millennium David will sit on the right of Jesus. If David is firstborn and king sitting on the right of Jesus it is very easy to see the one on the left of Jesus will be the second born which means they have the birthright blessing making them qualified to be the earthly high priest

So David on the right as firstborn and king from the line of Judah and the birthright line is Joseph so the other anointed is Joseph and his dominion is the levitic priesthood for over 1000 years

Who in heaven would ever be able to say “ I kinda think that seat up there should have been mine”. When all the servants only served one lifetime and these two will serve for over 1000 years

If Elijah sat on the left of Jesus for serving for less than 7 years and all he did was be a messenger I think you would have plenty of people looking at that guy like “ really you need to sit down from that hard time of being a messenger”? That guy would look like a fool sitting up there for such a small task when Moses and Aaron were in the desert with the people for over 40 years...lol


You can’t have David on the right of Jesus representing the earthly davidic millennial kingship who ruled for over 1000 years and not have someone on Jesus left with equally impressive credentials and that’s why the guy on the left of Jesus will have ruled as the levitic high priest just as long as David does as davidic king.

David will be on the right because he is firstborn and will rule the millennium as king for over 1000 years. Joseph will be on the left because he will have the second born blessing of the birthright and be high priest for over 1000 years

leftrightkingpri
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This verse clearly shows us the two anointed who will have dominion on the earth during the millennium:

1 Chronicles 5:2:

2 For Judah prevailed above his brethren, and of him came the chief ruler; but the birthright was Joseph's:)


Notice psalm 89:27:

27 Also I will make him my firstborn, higher than the kings of the earth.


Notice psalm 89:27 David is higher than the kings of the earth...again showing Jesus can’t be on earth because David isn’t higher than Jesus

David is the “CHIEF RULER’’ again the blessing of Judah is to be the chief ruler if David isn’t from Judah then there has to be one higher in the davidic/levitic kingdom that will be on earth during the millennium and we already established Jesus will be ruling under the melchelzedek order in heaven and will need to remain in heaven for the jues to believe in Jesus by faith and not by sight for the millennium... David is the chief ruler therefore he is Judah......but the birthright is Joseph’s which is the other anointed.

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