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Joseph and Judah the birthright and the sceptre

 
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As has already been said, the Law and the Prophets were until John.

Don't forget, the ORIGINAL most Holy covenant was with MAN.

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The Law is forever. It did not go anywhere. God is just going to give us his Spirit to guide us through the Law. God did not do a way with his Law. He has given us a guide. The only Law that will be done away is the Law of Sin. We will Sin no more because we follow the Law with the Ruach HaKodesh Guiding us.


Exodus 31:16 Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant.


Exodus 12:17 And ye shall observe the feast of unleavened bread; for in this selfsame day have I brought your armies out of the land of Egypt: therefore shall ye observe this day in your generations by an ordinance for ever.


Leviticus 16:29 And this shall be a statute for ever unto you: that in the seventh month, on the tenth day of the month, ye shall afflict your souls, and do no work at all, whether it be one of your own country, or a stranger that sojourneth among you:


Deuteronomy 5:29 O that there were such an heart in them, that they would fear me, and keep all my commandments always, that it might be well with them, and with their children for ever!

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LOL

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Let them who have ears hear.
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Do all of these inane god threads get pinned in honor of JC getting himself pinned up on that lower case T a few years ago?
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LOL

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Not sure why you LOL.

Forever is forever. God does not change. If his feasts and Laws are forever then he means forever. Satan would have us believe they are only temporary but then again Satan is not my God. I beleive in the God of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob(Israel) who is the father of Yehoshua(Jesus Christ) the Son of God.

I see nothing in that thread to make me see where the Law was done away with. Even in the new testament James and Christ talk about following the commandments of God. Christ observed the feasts along with Paul and others. I follow Christ. He is the way and I will try to do as he did.


Deuteronomy 29:29 “The secret things belong to the Lord our God, but those things which are revealed belong to us and to our children forever, that we may do all the words of this law.

The Law is a blessing. It is only a curse to those who do not follow it.

The Law is near to you. It is not afar.

Deuteronomy 30:11 “For this commandment which I command you today is not too mysterious for you, nor is it far off. 12 It is not in heaven, that you should say, ‘Who will ascend into heaven for us and bring it to us, that we may hear it and do it?’ 13 Nor is it beyond the sea, that you should say, ‘Who will go over the sea for us and bring it to us, that we may hear it and do it?’ 14 But the word is very near you, in your mouth and in your heart, that you may do it.
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LOL

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Not sure why you LOL.

Forever is forever. God does not change. If his feasts and Laws are forever then he means forever. Satan would have us believe they are only temporary but then again Satan is not my God. I beleive in the God of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob(Israel) who is the father of Yehoshua(Jesus Christ) the Son of God.

I see nothing in that thread to make me see where the Law was done away with. Even in the new testament James and Christ talk about following the commandments of God. Christ observed the feasts along with Paul and others. I follow Christ. He is the way and I will try to do as he did.


Deuteronomy 29:29 “The secret things belong to the Lord our God, but those things which are revealed belong to us and to our children forever, that we may do all the words of this law.

The Law is a blessing. It is only a curse to those who do not follow it.

The Law is near to you. It is not afar.

Deuteronomy 30:11 “For this commandment which I command you today is not too mysterious for you, nor is it far off. 12 It is not in heaven, that you should say, ‘Who will ascend into heaven for us and bring it to us, that we may hear it and do it?’ 13 Nor is it beyond the sea, that you should say, ‘Who will go over the sea for us and bring it to us, that we may hear it and do it?’ 14 But the word is very near you, in your mouth and in your heart, that you may do it.
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I don't got no ears neither. Can you translate that into ASL please and thank you and god and the bible?
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LOL

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Let them who have ears hear.
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Not sure why you LOL.

Forever is forever. God does not change.
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Hate to break it to you chump, but jews do not have monopoly on God.

I am a Palero and have my own covenant with the Almighty, and I will watch as war, pestilence, faminine, and death ravage the earth and bring you all to your knees in submission.

Then the humbled remnant will KNOW the Law, and with them the Earth will be replenished.

Think I am joking, keep watching the show, and remember what was written here today. If you live long enough.
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LOL

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Let them who have ears hear.
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Not sure why you LOL.

Forever is forever. God does not change.
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Hate to break it to you chump, but jews do not have monopoly on God.

I am a Palero and have my own covenant with the Almighty, and I will watch as war, pestilence, faminine, and death ravage the earth and bring you all to your knees in submission.

Then the humbled remnant will KNOW the Law, and with them the Earth will be replenished.

Think I am joking, keep watching the show, and remember what was written here today. If you live long enough.
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LOL. Your hilarious!
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Hate to break it to you chump, but jews do not have monopoly on God.

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Who said anything about Jews. I am not Jewish. The commandments were given to all of Israel which the Jews are a part of. Israel is God's people. All will be part of Israel. Native or Grafted in.
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So how does God bring the House of Israel,now a multitude of gentile nations, back into covenant with him? Through death. The death of his son Jesus. With Jesus's death, God is now free to re-marry. And he wants to re-marry both the House of Judah and the House of Israel. No longer is the House of Israel 'cursed by the law'!!

Paul explains this wonderful story in Romans 7:1-5.
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through the death of His Annointed perhaps, at the end of this Age...
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Hate to break it to you chump, but jews do not have monopoly on God.

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Who said anything about Jews. I am not Jewish. The commandments were given to all of Israel which the Jews are a part of. Israel is God's people. All will be part of Israel. Native or Grafted in.
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Every tree that does not bear good fruit is hewn down for the fire.

Keep watchin.
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Tell em Bob.

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Hate to break it to you chump, but jews do not have monopoly on God.

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Who said anything about Jews. I am not Jewish. The commandments were given to all of Israel which the Jews are a part of. Israel is God's people. All will be part of Israel. Native or Grafted in.
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Every tree that does not bear good fruit is hewn down for the fire.

Keep watchin.
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shit apples don't fall far from the shit tree

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Every tree that does not bear good fruit is hewn down for the fire.

Keep watchin.
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This is true. Israel is God's People but not all born of Israel native or not will bear good fruit.
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I don't disagree with the majority of the OP's assumptions, save for a few details along the way

anything having to do with the ideology of reincarnation is off the table in my mind however as God has made it perfectly clear that each soul is appointed to die but ONCE

those he sends forth in these latter days who will be of and from His Election from the first earth Age

will be newcomers into the fleshly estate, held back by predestination to be born into this final generation that all prophecy may unfold with and through those parts these are foreordained to fulfill herein...

David was David and not another, just as Christ is Christ

those who come forth will be representatives and/or TYPES of the forerunners of such...

period
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I don't got no ears neither. Can you translate that into ASL please and thank you and god and the bible?
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Do you have Eyes to See and Read?
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yeah and the Lion of Judah is the only one who prevails in Revelation.

"behold jerusalem I have left you desolate"

Jesus said the Jews call Belzebub their Master and have crucified all the saints and prophets.

Yet the USA just gave them another 230 million of taxpayers money.

I dont want my money to go to Israel they are abomination.
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This post is about David De Rothschild. The Messiah. King David.

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surely you jest

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yeah and the Lion of Judah is the only one who prevails in Revelation.

"behold jerusalem I have left you desolate"

Jesus said the Jews call Belzebub their Master and have crucified all the saints and prophets.

Yet the USA just gave them another 230 million of taxpayers money.

I dont want my money to go to Israel they are abomination.
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one needs to remember that we've been forewarned that there will be imposters in the house of Judah, and that there have been from very early on

we've also been informed as to whom these pretenders are and will continue to be

those who say they are of Judah but are not, but are of the synegogue of satan herein, and/or the sons of Cain, the Kenites and/or the TARES

these were those who cried "crucify him" with reference to Christ, also known as Pharisees in the days of olde...

unless and until one can identify the difference betwixt the twain the actual members of the tribes of Judah and these Kenites, Judah itself will continue to take the "heat" for the doings of said "faux Jews"

all will be rectified however in due course, and all will be made known by the end of this Age
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I don't got no ears neither. Can you translate that into ASL please and thank you and god and the bible?
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Do you have Eyes to See and Read?
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Yes but they don't read letters or letter combinations very effectively (sometime not at all, like todays) because that part of my brain was damaged in 'Nam after a machine gun nesting incident.
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yeah and the Lion of Judah is the only one who prevails in Revelation.

"behold jerusalem I have left you desolate"

Jesus said the Jews call Belzebub their Master and have crucified all the saints and prophets.

Yet the USA just gave them another 230 million of taxpayers money.

I dont want my money to go to Israel they are abomination.
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that is because the Kenites sit in positions of power within and beneath the guise of being actual members of the tribes of Judah, which they are not

our governments are "all in" with said members of the synegogue of satan, which should be more than clear by this late date
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Ezekiel 37 and Ezekiel 36:25-27 tell exactly how Father God will restore ALL Israel and Judah as one.
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Ezekiel 37 and Ezekiel 36:25-27 tell exactly how Father God will restore ALL Israel and Judah as one.
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That sounds like a project. is that going to be bid out? That guy will probably want some preliminary engineering/architecturals done so how is he going to get the word out that this project is out for bids? Is he going to runs ads in all newspapers? Will it be open to MBE firms? At least a good faith effort.
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Ezekiel 37 and Ezekiel 36:25-27 tell exactly how Father God will restore ALL Israel and Judah as one.
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And Deuteronomy states that ALL False Prophets are to be stoned to death.

Kinda hard to do when the Prophet is ALREADY Dead isn't it?


Stop gnawing on dead men's bones!


A New Prophet

15The LORD thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken; 16According to all that thou desiredst of the LORD thy God in Horeb in the day of the assembly, saying, Let me not hear again the voice of the LORD my God, neither let me see this great fire any more, that I die not. 17And the LORD said unto me, They have well spoken that which they have spoken. 18I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. 19And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him. 20But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die. 21And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken? 22When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.




Obviously his words did not happen!
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"Jesus is King and High Priest after the order of Melchelzedek which is higher than the levitic priesthood that will be in effect in the 1000 year millennium"

So if Jesus Christ is King and Priest above the Levitical priesthood, why would He reinstate the Levitical priesthood? Why would he move backwards from the spiritual to the physical copy?

Has He not been on the throne of David this entire time? If you sit on a throne, you are King. If you are King, you have the sceptre. You cannot be ON the throne without it.

But yet, your version refutes these things.
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You have a kingdom on earth during the 1000 year millennium plus the season satan is loosed and there are 2 covenants that are promised to last until the covenant of the sun and moon are voided.

1. The davidic kingship
2. The levitic preisthood

Scripture has to be fulfilled so there will be a davidic kingship and levitic preisthood while the covenant of the sun and moon is in effect as is promised in Jeremiah 33

Jesus tells us in John 18:35 his kingdom is not of this world so Jesus will sit on the throne of David in the new heaven and new earth:
Luke 1 tells us Jesus will be given the throne of David and rule over Jacob for ever and of his kingdom there shall be no end....If Jesus is on the throne of David now we know this heaven and earth pass away when the new heaven and new earth are created therefore Jesus is not yet on Davids throne
but will allow the two witnesses to reign for 1000 years plus the season satan is loosed. One witness sitting on the throne of David during the 1000 year millenium and the other witness in charge of the Levitic priesthood.

Luke 1:

31 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS.

32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:

33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.

Matthew 24:35:
King James Bible
Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

Revelation 21:1:
King James Bible
And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.


This is when Jesus will sit on the throne of David. When the new heaven and new earth are created. The ones that will never pass away

Covenants(levitic and davidic) and scripture have to be fulfilled and they will be before the new heaven and new earth are created after the 1000 year millennium and the season satan is loosed.

Jeremiah 33 shows us the 3 covenants...levitic..davidic and sun and moon covenant"

If david is on the throne and the sun and moon are shining then there will be a high preist to run the levitic priesthood that will not be david as you cannot mix levitic and davidic without it being melchelzedek priesthood cancelling out the levitic and therefore not fulfilling covenants and scripture and that will not happen.

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Kings have thrones. Kings have Kingdoms.
What you are therefore saying is that Jesus Christ is not a King.

And again, Isaiah says, "The Root of Jesse will spring up, one who will arise to rule over the nations; in him the nations will hope"

Who have the nations placed their hope in but God and Lord Jesus Christ?

Brethren, I may confidently say to you regarding the patriarch David that he both died and was buried, and his tomb is with us to this day. "And so, because he was a prophet and knew that GOD HAD SWORN TO HIM WITH AN OATH TO SEAT one OF HIS DESCENDANTS ON HIS THRONE, he looked ahead and spoke of the resurrection of the Christ, that HE WAS NEITHER ABANDONED TO HADES, NOR DID His flesh SUFFER DECAY. "This Jesus God raised up again, to which we are all witnesses. "Therefore having been exalted to the right hand of God, and having received from the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit, He has poured forth this which you both see and hear. "For it was not David who ascended into heaven, but he himself says: 'THE LORD SAID TO MY LORD, "SIT AT MY RIGHT HAND, UNTIL I MAKE YOUR ENEMIES A FOOTSTOOL FOR YOUR FEET." ' "Therefore let all the house of Israel know for certain that God has made Him both Lord and Christ—this Jesus whom you crucified

And the heavens and earth did pass....
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As the seed of Abraham, Jesus recreated Israel into a spiritual nation of born again believers. This amazing act fulfilled the prophesy of Jeremiah ..."the vessel was marred in HIS hands..so HE remade THE vessel."--the vessel in these scriptures is Israel.
<the word "THE' show the vessel to be the same...it's not substitution..rather it is supercessionism>

Gentiles were grafted to the tree of born-again Jews..not carnal Jews. The idea of a future repentance of carnal Jews will never happened for Christ hath said "It is finished" and "I have lost none". Paul explained the reality that circumcism was of the heart..that a Jew is one inwardly. As for carnal Israel, he said "since you have rejected salvation, lo, we turn to the gentiles"

Born again believers are the Israel of God now but most have given their birthright away to that nation of evil warmongerers. Because they willfully refuse to see the truth about carnal Israel, "hell has opened it's mouth" in the United States and most of the world.
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Live and Learn.....Modern state of Israel exposed as the SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN. PLease WAKE UP! Christians are being made fools of.



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A couple of the posts above prove God's statement about carnal man, "the wisdom of man is foolishness to me..." (it sure does, talk about blind fools).
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And again, Isaiah says, "The Root of Jesse will spring up, one who will arise to rule over the nations; in him the nations will hope"
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Isaiah is DEAD!

A New Prophet

15The LORD thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken; 16According to all that thou desiredst of the LORD thy God in Horeb in the day of the assembly, saying, Let me not hear again the voice of the LORD my God, neither let me see this great fire any more, that I die not. 17And the LORD said unto me, They have well spoken that which they have spoken. 18I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. 19And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him. 20But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die. 21And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken? 22When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.




Do you have ANY Prophets Living for reference?

One that is will to put his Life where his mouth is?
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As the seed of Abraham, Jesus
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WRONG!

Before Abraham was, I AM!

Try again.
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Sorry Israel, you don't make the cut.

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The Seventh Day: God Rests



1Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. 2And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. 3And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.


So God rests from his labors, and while he is resting some mothafucka comes in and takes credit for it all calling himself LORD God, and fucks everything up.

If YOU believe in talking snakes that is.

Who here believes in talking snakes?

Ever seen one?

LOL
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It wasn't a snake. It was a serpent. Look it up in Strong's Concordance. It means charmer; enchanter. The problem is the false Baal priest in our churches today don't teach this stuff. The Bible won't make sense if you've been taught by wolves in sheep's clothing with a 501c3 status.





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