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Message Subject Joseph and Judah the birthright and the sceptre
Poster Handle Anonymous Coward
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As it is written, "there is neither Jew (of the 12 tribes) nor Gentile in Christ Jesus, but one new man(-kind)"

So, there are those that were/are of Judah yet are now in Christ and therefore no longer Jews.

There are those that were/are of Ephraim yet are now in Christ and therefore no longer Jews.

There are those that were/are of Levi yet are now in Christ and therefore no longer Jews.

Yet, by descent from Ephraim-Joseph-Israel and Judah-Israel and Levi-Israel there were to be given promises.

Given now that those of these that were/are in Christ; those that were/are not in Christ, not born again, these would seem to be disqualified.

Perhaps these facts and issues need to be taken with more emphasis in order to make sure something has not been overlooked.

From Hosea we get a concept or thought of a Faithful Israel and an Unfaithful Israel. Even though Hosea was primarily speaking of Unfaithful Israel and Unfaithful Judah as if these two groups of peoples were Sisters.

the "Whore of Babylon" in the book of The Revelation is Unfaithful Israel, those that have not by that time accepted Jesus as Christ and Lord.

The Woman figured in Rev 12 represents Faithful Israel, those descendants of the children of Israel whom have accepted Jesus as Christ and Lord.

Unfaithful Judah gets nothing.
Faithful Judah gets what was promised to her.

Unfaithful Ephraim gets nothing.
Faithful Ephraim gets what was promised her.

Unfaithful Levi gets nothing.
Faithful Levi gets what was promised her.

So, with these things in mind, rethink the thesis of this Thread and you might gain more insight.
 
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