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Message Subject Joseph and Judah the birthright and the sceptre
Poster Handle waterman
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Sword why you gotta pretend you are the only anointed and the other witness is secondary and insignificant ....the other witness does just as much as the David witness if not more...both bring fire from their mouth to destroy their enemies one stops the water...they both die together....Judah is not greater than Joseph and ends up apologizing to Joseph for treating him bad....wake up partner we are judah and Joseph of the end time ...read the word Ezekiel 37....whenever it talks about the two witnesses you call “oh that is talking about the two nations not the two witnesses” ...lol..you start to see the pattern if it demotes the davidic character you state it is the nation...if it promotes the davidic character it is the anointed one....very convenient...but untrue .... .if I was you I would call BS but I’m not you and don’t talk that way...lol ...learn who we are and our purpose...you are stuck on 45 years of half way study meaning something .....it doesn’t....God promotes who he promotes....ask the Jues and Christians.....one is favored over the other.....look at where the Christians are during the millennium....they will be in heaven if you studied the scriptures...the Jues will be on earth with me and you. wake up friend.....but I already know u can’t til the fullness of the gentiles...cya then partner
 Quoting: waterman


How many times must I say this to you. I recognize both anointed in scripture. It's just that because I don't see them in the same light as you and don't believe symbolic Judah is one of the witnesses. You keep claiming falsely again over and over I don't recognize the two witnesses.

I have studied scripture diligently for over 45 yrs. You keep telling me what I don't understand. You been studying it for 10-12 yrs at the most and several of those years you were more concerned with the booze.

You enjoy making up lies to project that anyone besides you cannot see or understand the Word of God. Your only motive is to seek to put others in continual lies about them that you might look perfect.

You understand nothing and considering discernment you wouldn't know it if it bit you. Do me a favor and stop addressing me in your post. Don't you understand all liars will go to hell. Especially those who purposely tell lies when they know it is not what they believe or you believe they believe. Figure that statement out it might take a small portion of discernment.

You have done nothing but been an irritation to me for years. And you enjoy it, sadly calling yourself a Christian. Like discernment you reveal no such characteristics of either a christian attitude or comprehending the meaning of scripture.

You want the prince to be the prince and the priest to be the priest when it only fits your belief of who is who and which is which . You cannot have it both ways waterman. NASI either means prince, governor, king, ruler (royal positions,) or it doesn't, but never a priestly title does it entangle in its meaning.

You cannot make-up the story as it goes along for your convenience . And biblical scholars, theologians, teachers, and Rabbis agree it is only mentioning a singular prince of/in Israel preforming his duties in (Ezek.40-48KJV,) not two different individual (a priest and a prince.)

Symbolic Joseph will have consanguinity brothers whom are separate from him in several areas. He is hidden and cannot be seen by anyone. Enoch is greater in standing than Elijah, and he was first translated and hidden. He (Enoch) symbolizes the elect one, the hidden one, the son of man, the chosen one, and the righteous one. These are not other names for Elijah! So stop pushing those things that are not verifiable. But an assumption conjured up by a man whose ambition is is only self glorification. Wake up and smell the coffee.
 Quoting: S-wordlike




Certainly David is one of the two anointed and being he is of the line of Judah to be king he is one of the 12 princes of Israel....but lets not forget there are two anointed and 12 princes of Israel and Joseph also is a prince

Ezekiel 34:24:

And I, the LORD, will be their God, and My servant David a prince among them; I, the LORD, have spoken.



These are those that were numbered, which Moses and Aaron numbered, and the princes of Israel, being twelve men: each one was for the house of his fathers.


So if David is a prince and Joseph is a prince how in the world are we going to know which prince is being spoke about? Super simple if it is speaking about kingly/government matters it is speaking about David....if it is speaking about priestly duties it is speaking about the other anointed Joseph...very very simple to see unless you don't want to see it....lol

God doesn't bring two anointed on the world stage doing all the same things...dying together raising together after they die and just have one of the two disappear and you never hear from the second one again...there is no logic in that and God is logical....so the conclusion is Joseph is hidden in the scriptures in ezekiel even from david but if you understand that Davids position is(earthly king/civil leader) and you understand that Josephs position is (earthly high priest and interpreter of the law david presents and the promises given to Joshua the high priest in zechariah) then you can read the scriptures very clear on who is who...lol




This is clearly Joseph and not David because he is doing the high priest duties and a king cant do high priest duties in a davidic levitic kingdom that is in effect during the millennium:

Ezekiel 46:

2 And the prince shall enter by the way of the porch of that gate without, and shall stand by the post of the gate, and the priests shall prepare his burnt offering and his peace offerings, and he shall worship at the threshold of the gate: then he shall go forth; but the gate shall not be shut until the evening.

3 Likewise the people of the land shall worship at the door of this gate before the Lord in the sabbaths and in the new moons.

4 And the burnt offering that the prince shall offer unto the Lord in the sabbath day shall be six lambs without blemish, and a ram without blemish.


P.S

The prince in ezekiel 46 the word nasi/prince simply means exalted one and of course the high priest Joseph is an exalted one...lol

Strong: H5387

Orig: or nasi8 \i naw-see'\i0\plain\f3\fs21\cf23 ; from 5375; properly, an exalted one, i.e. a king or sheik; also a rising mist:--captain, chief, cloud, governor, prince, ruler, vapour. H5375

Use: TWOT-1421b,1421c Noun Masculine

Grk Strong: G435 G747 G758 G935 G1484 G2233 G3507 G3509

1) one lifted up, chief, prince, captain, leader
2) rising mist, vapour


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