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OPERATION POPEYE WEATHER MODIFICATION PROGRAM MADE IT RAIN FOR IN VIETNAM FOR 30 DAYS IN ROW! SO WHY DO WE HAVE A DROUGHT IN THE UNITED STATES?

 
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Operation Popeye (Project Popeye/Motorpool/Intermediary-Compatriot) was a highly classified weather modification program in Southeast Asia during 1967-1972. The cloud seeding operation during the Vietnam war ran from March 20, 1967 until July 5, 1972 in an attempt to extend the monsoon season, specifically over areas of the Ho Chi Minh Trail. The operation was used to induce rain and extend the East Asian Monsoon season in support of U.S. government efforts related to the War in Southeast Asia.

The operation seeded clouds with both silver iodide and lead iodide, resulting in the targeted areas seeing an extension of the monsoon period an average of 30 to 45 days. As the continuous rainfall slowed down the truck traffic, it was considered relatively successful.[1] However, resultant rain and subsequent flooding of the nearby Song Con River is sometimes blamed for the move of POWs from the prison camp at Son Tay and therefore, the failure of Operation Ivory Coast.[2]

The former U.S. Secretary of Defense, Robert S. McNamara, was aware that there might be objections raised by the international scientific community but said in a memo to the president that such objections had not in the past been a basis for prevention of military activities considered to be in the interests of U.S. national security.

The chemical weather modification program was conducted from Thailand over Cambodia, Laos, and Vietnam and allegedly sponsored by Secretary of State Henry Kissinger and CIA without the authorization of then Secretary of Defense Melvin Laird who had categorically denied to Congress that a program for modification of the weather for use as a tactical weapon even existed.[3]

A report titled Rainmaking in SEASIA outlines use of lead iodide and silver iodide deployed by aircraft in a program that was developed in California at Naval Air Weapons Station China Lake and tested in Okinawa, Guam, Philippines, Texas, and Florida in a hurricane study program called Project Stormfury.[4][5]

Project Popeye was the experiment in increased rainfall through cloud seeding leading up to Operation Popeye. The technical aspects of the experiment were verified by Dr. Donald F. Hornig, Special Assistant to the President of the United States for Science and Technology. During October 1966, Project Popeye was tested in a strip of the Laos panhandle east of the Bolovens Plateau in the Se Kong River valley. The government of Laos was not informed of the project, its methods or its goals. The test was conducted by personnel from the Naval Ordnance Test Station located at China Lake California. Fifty cloud seeding experiments were conducted with the result that 82% of the clouds produced rain within a brief period after having been seeded. It was claimed that one of the clouds drifted across the Vietnam border and dropped nine inches of rain on a US special forces camp over a four hour period. After the successful completion of the test phase, Project Popeye transitioned from an experiment to an operational program of the U.S. Defense department.[citation needed]

Implementation

The 54th Weather Reconnaissance Squadron carried out the operation using the slogan "make mud, not war."[7] Starting on March 20, 1967, and continuing through every rainy season (March to November) in Southeast Asia until 1972, operational cloud seeding missions were flown. Three C-130 Hercules aircraft and two F-4C Phantom aircraft based at Udorn Royal Thai Air Force Base Thailand flew two sorties per day. The aircraft were officially on weather reconnaissance missions and the aircraft crews as part of their normal duty generated weather report information. The crews, all from the 54th Weather Reconnaissance Squadron, were rotated into the operation on a regular basis from Guam. Inside the squadron, the rainmaking operations were code-named "Motorpool".[8]

The initial area of operations was the eastern half of the Laotian panhandle. On 11 July 1967, the operational area was increased northward to around the area of the 20th parallel and included portions of far western North Vietnam. In September 1967, the A Shau Valley in South
Here is some info on the one of first weather modification programs used on a population!!!!

We have man made droughts but we could make it rain for 30 days in Vietnam during the war.


Vietnam was added to the operational area. Operations over North Vietnam were eliminated on April 1, 1968, concurrent with conventional bombing restrictions being put into effect. The southern region of North Vietnam was added to the operational area on September 25, 1968, and then removed on November 1 of that year concurrent with a halt to conventional bombing of North Vietnam. In 1972, most of northeastern Cambodia was added to the operational area.

All rainmaking operations ceased on July 5, 1972.
Public revelation

Reporter Jack Anderson published a story in March 1971 concerning Operation Popeye (though in his column, it was called Intermediary-Compatriot). The name Operation Popeye (Pop Eye) entered the public space through a brief mention in the Pentagon Papers[9] and a July 3, 1972, article in the New York Times.[10] Operations in Laos ceased two days after the publication of the Times article.

The press stories led to demands from members of the U.S. Congress, led by Senator Claiborne Pell, for more information. U.S. House and Senate resolutions in favor of banning environmental warfare were passed as Senate Resolution 71 on July 11, 1973, H.R. 116 of 1974, H.R. 329 of 1974 and H.R. 28 of 1975.
Current legal status

Weather modification procedures when performed to achieve a military end now fall under the provenance of the Environmental Modification Convention.

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Weather Modification enhances rainfall in a given storm system. It does not create clouds, it releases silver iodide into a cloud layer which enhances rainfall. This process cannot be seen form the ground.
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Hurricane Harvey.
Hurricane Irma.
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Didn't want to start a new thread, so am using this one...no way to post pics or vids, but goto AccuWeather radar loop between 8:15& 8:40 over west central Illinois, and check out the dissipation of rain in the green. You can clearly see ground-based antennas that must be generating some sort of signal as there are multiple spots where they are cutting holes in the rain signature which spreads and wipes out all the rain.

You can see it in action.
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Hurricane Harvey.
Hurricane Irma.
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Didn't want to start a new thread, so am using this one...no way to post pics or vids, but goto AccuWeather radar loop between 8:15& 8:40 over west central Illinois, and check out the dissipation of rain in the green. You can clearly see ground-based antennas that must be generating some sort of signal as there are multiple spots where they are cutting holes in the rain signature which spreads and wipes out all the rain.

You can see it in action.
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Great info! There are still lots of weather modification deniers out there. Just sent that wiki link to all my friends in FL, thanks!
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Thank you For posting OP. Interesting stuff.
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the only way to see if you really control the weather is by bringing, rains and droughts, to show it really works. and notice all the patents on this, who gave them the right to control the weather to begin with ??? my opinions on this matter
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The former U.S. Secretary of Defense, Robert S. McNamara, was aware that there might be objections raised by the international scientific community but said in a memo to the president that such objections had not in the past been a basis for prevention of military activities considered to be in the interests of U.S. national security.


Maybe we should complain...

Excellent thread, OP... thank you.

This is the kind of scientific data and documented use of weather by the military as a weapon that many of us grew up with and witnessed... before media became the undisputed whore of Babylon.
It gives a rudimentary knowledge base of the origins of geoengineering for the younger set.

If you can imagine where our phone systems were, for example, in that age... rotary dial-up phones.
And now witness the cell phone revolution and internet at your fingertips.

Well, cloud-seeding of that day was as revolutionary to weather mod as rotary phones were to communications.

The science of geoengineering has continued to infiltrate our lives since then... just like cell phones have but worse.
It is killing "non-target" species.

(Trees, birds. insects. fish, etc.)

They apparently used McNamara's original attitude of IGNORING the scientific community to continue ignoring everything about the science since then.
A ridiculous and false dis-info campaign was launched instead.

TPTB really should not have done that.

It has already backfired many times and will continue to do so in the future.

Let's just leave it all at that...
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