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Yes,

This was evident from the onset ...

promises of ice walls ...

And Robots to support robots undeveloped ...

To even calculate the actual scope of task

In an environment of quantifiable lies & failure



... Promises of ice walls

Fuku
 Quoting: M1.618


@ Dear Honey-Cake,

the "Ice-Wall" is not even ready yet (will be ready to use in 03/2015)
i told you this and brought the original Plan already a few Times
but you going on to spread Disinformation!


The Ice-Wall has nothing to do with the freezing of the Trenches,
both are different Projects


[link to www.tepco.co.jp]

[link to www.tepco.co.jp]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62029415


The concept has failed already.

You are the one spreading fantasies ice wall and robot fantasies...
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I can solve the problem within a few weeks , NSA and FBI and CIA know who i am ... if they want solutions ..
I am available ....

else.....

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I knew we are already fucked. There is thousand of nuclear reactors on Earthquakes prone countries. That included Japan, America, Middle East such as Iran, China etc.

In less than 3 years, a big one will hit that come every 600 plus years or so and in between there is a mini one. We never had any nuclear before that and America was not even born when the mini one hit in 1607.

The Lord thy God can lessen it, but the world is full of sinners that not even Jonah (peace be unto him) can save us. Men carry on and smiles, too late, too late for they earn their deserve fate - Mother Shipton.

After this big one, the Anti-Christ huge armies under China, Russia, The Orients and Islam which included Iran or course, will become the most powerful nation on Earth.

Where America you say?, they are busy trying to rebuild what they had lost, plus fighting against false peace immigrations and sleepers in theirs land. Most nuclear power plant will be damaged and leaked, mostly around the coasal area and earthquake prone area such as San Andrea faults. At the same time lost it some if it land mass.

That when the Anti-Christ invade Europe and some in America cities nuked. This is why the three brothers wil join force after when Russia realize that the Anti-Christ had been used Russia for his advantage. And when America finally got rids of TPTB then ..

The Three Brothers is no other than America, Canada and Russia will join force and that when the tide war turn. That when we will not care for justice and Islam will be slained from the face of the Earth.
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what is this nonsense? that isn't even sort of close to what the Bible says
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You must be a bit young?, listen to the Holy elder and that included Nostradamus.
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norespect
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Yes,

This was evident from the onset ...

promises of ice walls ...

And Robots to support robots undeveloped ...

To even calculate the actual scope of task

In an environment of quantifiable lies & failure



... Promises of ice walls

:Fuku:
 Quoting: M1.618


@ Dear Honey-Cake,

the "Ice-Wall" is not even ready yet (will be ready to use in 03/2015)
i told you this and brought the original Plan already a few Times
but you going on to spread Disinformation!


The Ice-Wall has nothing to do with the freezing of the Trenches,
both are different Projects


[link to www.tepco.co.jp]

[link to www.tepco.co.jp]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62029415


The concept has failed already.

You are the one spreading fantasies ice wall and robot fantasies...
 Quoting: M1.618


Actually it must be the Plural: "Concepts,
they use two different Concepts, as you can read.

The Trenches are 5m/ Diameter,
to freeze this is highly difficult,
to create a Wall of frozen Soil is not,
it is a working Technology used since many Years!

You need to realize that both Projects are different
and i try to tell(not only-) you this since Weeks Chuckle

But "Mai Pen Rai"!
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... maybe you will limp away... but the children's children will suffer.... how proud are you that there are children now in pre-school that have never played outside for more than an hour on their way to and from the internal schools and sandpits and play grounds....

how proud are you of the fact that the only saving face you could have expected from REAL western nations was to evacuate the women and children correctly?... you failed in the eyes of the world view... and you will suffer now accordingly....

 Quoting: Citizenperth


At least we here in Japan try to compensate this Problem,
we screen and protect the Kids while you do nothing!


Flower
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Compensate the Problem??? Screen and protect the kids???
Seriously??

You raise the level of acceptable levels of Radiation.
You give the children Radiation monitors.
You test their thyroids for Thyroid abnormalities.
Yet you say it is not Radiation, when they get nose bleeds, or vomit violently.

How exactly is this taking care of the kids??
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No matter what they do about Fukushima, we need to start NOW in dealing with improving the safety of all the other nuclear power plants in the world, because extreme weather is coming. We have been shown this by Fukushima, and that is the good that can come out of it. But no. Even people with interested enough to read a messages about Fukushima in forums just want to sit around and blame and complain. We could actually stop lots of further destruction but it's pretty clear as a whole we don't have it in us.

One of the scientists who write about the 30 feedback loops that have already begun and which will ultimately cause the extinction of the planet, wrote in response to someone's question, is there anything we can do to save ourselves, we should get the nuclear plants dismantled immediately and put the spent fuel etc in safe long term storage.
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If I remember correctly, the bible says the earth will be destroyed by fire..... is not radiation a form of fire?
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What if we put a lot of sun screen on a drunk Russian...think that would work?!?!?
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.....and im unsure from an engineering perspective what is best solution to the crisis.
blocking the harbour mouth filling full of zeolite boron etc (whatever expert reckon), and building more containment around the harbor, and bulldozing the lot into it with some kind of cover wd help containment...probably... but dont make it go away. that was my first idea in 2011 .
its an engineering nightmare, and no solution, so no action ..the elephant in the room, as no-one likes to look at their demise,
imagination and self desires rule in babylon (normalcy bias), its a fire derived death culture, far removed from the health of Natures Design, and we know not what we left behind.
so now it looks were on the edges of global crisises everywhere, logically projecting, and still insist on maintaining it...
yay for humanitys intellect
rp
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It is for these reasons, we need to shut down every Nuclear Reactor in the world... We cannot safely store the waste byproducts, we cannot protect the melt-downs like Fukushima, from natural disasters. They are unsafe!
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It was not H. Caldicott who won the Nobel Prize,
it was the Organization.

She is not a Engineer (Expert) and do not have any knowledge about the Ongoing in Daiichi,


In fact she is not Objective, it would be the same to talk with Ayatholla Khomeini about the Dangers of Islam for the Western World!

The rest of this Article is half true and half wrong!
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So your saying I should trust what a jap says when a jap is now responsible for the extinction of our planet. Thanks Japan. Can't wait for china to fuck you up good.
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1.) the Word "Jap" is a really bad Word and you should refrain from
using it.

2.) i am not a "Jap" but a Humanoid Earthling who believe in Solutions

3.) China is still not in the Position to stay alive without Japan
and they will not fuck us up

4.) China owns much greater environmental Problems than Japan

5.) China is building in this moment more than 200 nuclear Reactors

6.) Canada is producing Uranium and Yellow Cake too,
it is not Australia alonr

7,) "your" Uranium Mines leaking immens,
all yourMines together may release more Radioactivity than Daiichi
"after" the Initial Release in the first Month
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AC, This is exactly what I described in our conversation on another thread.... you speak out of both sides of your mouth..... one moment (like this) where what you say actually makes sense....... then the next moment (like the next one, or previous comments on this thread) where you defend TEPCO, and say they cannot do any wrong. Yes so FUK'n what that China chokes on their own pollution, etc.etc... So, quit feeding China to pollute themselves then. Cause you are admitting that Japan is part of their problem too! FUK!
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PLANT trees because the shortfall of oxygen caused by a dead ocean and increase in greenhouse gases like methane from dead and decaying matter in addition to solar warming of murky dead water thawing ocean bed hydrates will increase the percentage of these deadly gases in the atmosphere altering our climate as we are now seeing. YES it is man made but shutting down all the coal burning plants and turning off all the gasoline and Diesel engines will change nothing.
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Question,
What happens when you have a sealed container, fill it full of methane gas, then expose it to an ignition source???

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But they way their going about it they might as well put the stuff in salt and pepper shakers..
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There are Japanese government grants being given to recycle precious metals from contaminated material..... I am sure you can find someone to give a grant to convert more radioactive material into consumables and spread them around the world.......wait, they are already doing that too.... (not sure about the salt n pepper to go with the shakers tho).
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I can solve the problem within a few weeks , NSA and FBI and CIA know who i am ... if they want solutions ..
I am available ....

else.....
project: "hellhole"
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link please
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I don't need a physicist to tell me that tons of highly radioactive nuclear cores residing in the Earth is a bad thing.
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No matter what they do about Fukushima, we need to start NOW in dealing with improving the safety of all the other nuclear power plants in the world, because extreme weather is coming. We have been shown this by Fukushima, and that is the good that can come out of it. But no. Even people with interested enough to read a messages about Fukushima in forums just want to sit around and blame and complain. We could actually stop lots of further destruction but it's pretty clear as a whole we don't have it in us.

One of the scientists who write about the 30 feedback loops that have already begun and which will ultimately cause the extinction of the planet, wrote in response to someone's question, is there anything we can do to save ourselves, we should get the nuclear plants dismantled immediately and put the spent fuel etc in safe long term storage.
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If I remember correctly, the bible says the earth will be destroyed by fire..... is not radiation a form of fire?
 Quoting: Chugiakian


ABSOLUTELY, YES!!!!!

A lot of people have no idea of this, but the Violet Flame that New Agers talk about to "purify" the soul is actually the burning lake of Fire (Hell) that the Bible talks about. The Violet Flame IS the burning lake of fire and the second death! When a person's soul goes into the Violet Flame, their soul and their emotional body is burned up and destroyed.

I learned of this by 7 years of research. Most people don't even know of its existence. It exists on the etheric plane. When you are asleep at night, one of the ascended masters might come to visit you like I had. No, I chose my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, so he left. I didn't become an ascended master, which would have meant demonic possession of my body. They take over your body, you know. They empty your soul out and put one of their own entities in to "control" you.

Just research Alice Bailey, Annie Besant, Aleisteir Crowley, Madame Blavatsky, and Share International who is hosted by Benjamin Creme. They are all Luciferians, hosted by Lucifer, himself, with his eyeball in the pyramid on the back of the U.S. $1 dollar bill. When the dollar bill says "In God we trust," now you know who they are talking about.
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No matter what they do about Fukushima, we need to start NOW in dealing with improving the safety of all the other nuclear power plants in the world, because extreme weather is coming. We have been shown this by Fukushima, and that is the good that can come out of it. But no. Even people with interested enough to read a messages about Fukushima in forums just want to sit around and blame and complain. We could actually stop lots of further destruction but it's pretty clear as a whole we don't have it in us.

One of the scientists who write about the 30 feedback loops that have already begun and which will ultimately cause the extinction of the planet, wrote in response to someone's question, is there anything we can do to save ourselves, we should get the nuclear plants dismantled immediately and put the spent fuel etc in safe long term storage.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1084667


If I remember correctly, the bible says the earth will be destroyed by fire..... is not radiation a form of fire?
 Quoting: Chugiakian


ABSOLUTELY, YES!!!!!

A lot of people have no idea of this, but the Violet Flame that New Agers talk about to "purify" the soul is actually the burning lake of Fire (Hell) that the Bible talks about. The Violet Flame IS the burning lake of fire and the second death! When a person's soul goes into the Violet Flame, their soul and their emotional body is burned up and destroyed.

I learned of this by 7 years of research. Most people don't even know of its existence. It exists on the etheric plane. When you are asleep at night, one of the ascended masters might come to visit you like I had. No, I chose my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, so he left. I didn't become an ascended master, which would have meant demonic possession of my body. They take over your body, you know. They empty your soul out and put one of their own entities in to "control" you.

Just research Alice Bailey, Annie Besant, Aleisteir Crowley, Madame Blavatsky, and Share International who is hosted by Benjamin Creme. They are all Luciferians, hosted by Lucifer, himself, with his eyeball in the pyramid on the back of the U.S. $1 dollar bill. When the dollar bill says "In God we trust," now you know who they are talking about.
 Quoting: I Love Panda Bears


I forgot to add that the Violet Flame IS radioactive fire. That's what the song "Radioactive' is about, by Imagine Dragons.

radioactive Imagine Dragons:



[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
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I have to about laugh, we are so fucked. Japan was just the unlucky country to host a horrible disaster. Earthquakes happen and these dumb fucks build plants in places where even a retard would think twice. We have all known for many decades what would happen, but the people who own them and the power grid don't care, they obviously don't or they would have been shut down a very long time ago.
I would like to ask The Oldtimer when it was that he figured out that nuclear energy might not be such a good idea. I didnt really have a clue up until 3 mile island happened, and that is when i figured out that we were some dumb SOBs for ever going down this path.
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It was not H. Caldicott who won the Nobel Prize,
it was the Organization.

She is not a Engineer (Expert) and do not have any knowledge about the Ongoing in Daiichi,


In fact she is not Objective, it would be the same to talk with Ayatholla Khomeini about the Dangers of Islam for the Western World!

The rest of this Article is half true and half wrong!
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wtfdid

Hey Ass-Fuck boy, it's ironic for you to claim that H. Caldicott "do not have any knowledge about the Ongoing in Daiichi", because the exact same can be said for Tepco. You're really are living proof that radiation can cause severe retardation. Go have a nice swim in your spent fuel pool and STFU fuckoff2

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If he said anything different he would be in jail. He is disgracing himself and his whole family by his posting. His ancestors will not be happy.
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[link to en.ria.ru]
August 23 (RIA Novosti) - The three molten cores at Fukushima plant, each weighing a hundred tons, are so radioactive, that no one can approach them, including robots, which melt down immediately, Dr. Helen Caldicott, the 1985 Nobel Peace Prize nominee, physician and anti-nuclear advocate, states in an interview to Radio VR:
“And no one ever will, and the contamination will go on for hundreds of years,” Ms. Caldicott cites top physicists as saying.
Initially, TEPCO, the Japanese power provider wanted to erect an ice wall around the perimeter of the Fukushima complex, as ground water the underneath the reactor is absorbing radiation and then flowing into the ocean.
An ice wall is a silly idea given the circumstances, remarks the expert, as it would have to last at least a hundred years. Moreover, you would have to have electricity running all the time to keep the ground frozen, explains Ms. Caldicott.
Surprisingly enough, TEPCO is not consulting with anyone, says the expert, neither with Russia, after it survived the Chernobyl catastrophe, nor Bechtel, a US major engineering company. It is, conversely, “saving money, using paper coming from homeless shelters”, and the Japanese mafia Yakuza is hiring people to do this work.
The expert stresses they are witnessing an absolute catastrophe: 300-400 tons of radioactive water pour daily into the Pacific, and this has been going on for over three years now contaminating the ocean and its ecology.

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I have been thinking about this problem for the better part of a year and knew that early-on, the super-techno-geeks would not be able to use high-tech gizmos to deal with this. The radiation energy simply fried the circuit boards of anything that gets close.

Since the core(s) melted themselves down, using steel to retrieve them is out of the question because the steel will melt.

So what to do?

The answer: STONE.

We have the ability to cut large pieces of stone into large tools. Most stone cannot be melted by the existing melted-down core temperature, if we were to create a stone grasping claw, it could grab the hot core(s) and latch-onto them.

The next problem is how to make them grasp. The answer: Hydraulics. Hydraulics are not susceptible the radiation energy because they are strictly mechanical in nature; pressure in at one end, mechanical output on the other end. The trouble would be that the hydraulic hoses and lines are susceptible to the TEMPERATURE.

Thus, I wonder if liquid nitrogen could be used instead of oil, AS a hydraulic fluid? The shit is so damn cold, it might provide the temperature protection long enough to allow a stone claw to grasp the core, then WINCH IT OUT.

Of course, once it is exposed, who the hell knows what the deadly radiation perimeter would be, or what the hell to do with a massive melting core once it is taken out of the ground.

I'm working on it!

Your thoughts?
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Hydraulics of sorts yes, Stone is a good solution. make a stone scoop, but why not then just make a stone cap and cap the sucker!?
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No matter what they do about Fukushima, we need to start NOW in dealing with improving the safety of all the other nuclear power plants in the world, because extreme weather is coming. We have been shown this by Fukushima, and that is the good that can come out of it. But no. Even people with interested enough to read a messages about Fukushima in forums just want to sit around and blame and complain. We could actually stop lots of further destruction but it's pretty clear as a whole we don't have it in us.

One of the scientists who write about the 30 feedback loops that have already begun and which will ultimately cause the extinction of the planet, wrote in response to someone's question, is there anything we can do to save ourselves, we should get the nuclear plants dismantled immediately and put the spent fuel etc in safe long term storage.
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If I remember correctly, the bible says the earth will be destroyed by fire..... is not radiation a form of fire?
 Quoting: Chugiakian


ABSOLUTELY, YES!!!!!

A lot of people have no idea of this, but the Violet Flame that New Agers talk about to "purify" the soul is actually the burning lake of Fire (Hell) that the Bible talks about. The Violet Flame IS the burning lake of fire and the second death! When a person's soul goes into the Violet Flame, their soul and their emotional body is burned up and destroyed.

I learned of this by 7 years of research. Most people don't even know of its existence. It exists on the etheric plane. When you are asleep at night, one of the ascended masters might come to visit you like I had. No, I chose my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, so he left. I didn't become an ascended master, which would have meant demonic possession of my body. They take over your body, you know. They empty your soul out and put one of their own entities in to "control" you.

Just research Alice Bailey, Annie Besant, Aleisteir Crowley, Madame Blavatsky, and Share International who is hosted by Benjamin Creme. They are all Luciferians, hosted by Lucifer, himself, with his eyeball in the pyramid on the back of the U.S. $1 dollar bill. When the dollar bill says "In God we trust," now you know who they are talking about.
 Quoting: I Love Panda Bears


Then I will pose this to you....
PLANT trees because the shortfall of oxygen caused by a dead ocean and increase in greenhouse gases like methane from dead and decaying matter in addition to solar warming of murky dead water thawing ocean bed hydrates will increase the percentage of these deadly gases in the atmosphere altering our climate as we are now seeing. YES it is man made but shutting down all the coal burning plants and turning off all the gasoline and Diesel engines will change nothing.
 Quoting: Ranger 57251671


Question,
What happens when you have a sealed container, fill it full of methane gas, then expose it to an ignition source???

 Quoting: Chugiakian


What happens when you have a sealed container, fill it full of methane gas, then expose it to an ignition source???
Is not the earth a sealed container of sorts? How much methane gas is there, and is it possible that this could cause a fire that would destroy most of the trees and grass on the earth?
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There is only one solution, and it is to evacuate Japan and nuke Fukushima.

It's not going to be easy to find a politician willing to pull the trigger on that one.
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I know that an explosion with 1 rod could potentially render the northern hemisphere uninhabitable. Next idea, please...
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You should check your sources.

The threat a rod poses is due to sustained reaction. Energy imbalances cause the fissile material to release neutrons. The extra neutrons in change unbalance several other atoms, and each one of them releases a few more neutrons, and so on. The fact that the fissile material is all packed tightly into a rod drastically increases the rate of the reaction. Separated, the material is still radioactive but releasing energy at a slower rate.

A conventional explosion is definitely going to make the problem worse, as it is just adding energy and increasing the reactions. But a nuclear explosion with enough energy to vaporize the rod is a far better scenario than letting it just sit their and bleed out energy indefinitely
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No matter what they do about Fukushima, we need to start NOW in dealing with improving the safety of all the other nuclear power plants in the world, because extreme weather is coming. We have been shown this by Fukushima, and that is the good that can come out of it. But no. Even people with interested enough to read a messages about Fukushima in forums just want to sit around and blame and complain. We could actually stop lots of further destruction but it's pretty clear as a whole we don't have it in us.

One of the scientists who write about the 30 feedback loops that have already begun and which will ultimately cause the extinction of the planet, wrote in response to someone's question, is there anything we can do to save ourselves, we should get the nuclear plants dismantled immediately and put the spent fuel etc in safe long term storage.
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If I remember correctly, the bible says the earth will be destroyed by fire..... is not radiation a form of fire?
 Quoting: Chugiakian


ABSOLUTELY, YES!!!!!

A lot of people have no idea of this, but the Violet Flame that New Agers talk about to "purify" the soul is actually the burning lake of Fire (Hell) that the Bible talks about. The Violet Flame IS the burning lake of fire and the second death! When a person's soul goes into the Violet Flame, their soul and their emotional body is burned up and destroyed.

I learned of this by 7 years of research. Most people don't even know of its existence. It exists on the etheric plane. When you are asleep at night, one of the ascended masters might come to visit you like I had. No, I chose my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, so he left. I didn't become an ascended master, which would have meant demonic possession of my body. They take over your body, you know. They empty your soul out and put one of their own entities in to "control" you.

Just research Alice Bailey, Annie Besant, Aleisteir Crowley, Madame Blavatsky, and Share International who is hosted by Benjamin Creme. They are all Luciferians, hosted by Lucifer, himself, with his eyeball in the pyramid on the back of the U.S. $1 dollar bill. When the dollar bill says "In God we trust," now you know who they are talking about.
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Then I will pose this to you....
PLANT trees because the shortfall of oxygen caused by a dead ocean and increase in greenhouse gases like methane from dead and decaying matter in addition to solar warming of murky dead water thawing ocean bed hydrates will increase the percentage of these deadly gases in the atmosphere altering our climate as we are now seeing. YES it is man made but shutting down all the coal burning plants and turning off all the gasoline and Diesel engines will change nothing.
 Quoting: Ranger 57251671


Question,
What happens when you have a sealed container, fill it full of methane gas, then expose it to an ignition source???

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What happens when you have a sealed container, fill it full of methane gas, then expose it to an ignition source???
Is not the earth a sealed container of sorts? How much methane gas is there, and is it possible that this could cause a fire that would destroy most of the trees and grass on the earth?
 Quoting: Chugiakian


Why are you quoting me when you are talking about methane gas. None of what you are saying even refers to my quote. I like trees just like most people, but what in Hell are you talking about? Are you talking about how souls are snatched from their bodies and a new entity walks in? What are you talking about?
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Yes,

This was evident from the onset ...

promises of ice walls ...

And Robots to support robots undeveloped ...

To even calculate the actual scope of task

In an environment of quantifiable lies & failure



... Promises of ice walls

Fuku
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@ Dear Honey-Cake,

the "Ice-Wall" is not even ready yet (will be ready to use in 03/2015)
i told you this and brought the original Plan already a few Times
but you going on to spread Disinformation!


The Ice-Wall has nothing to do with the freezing of the Trenches,
both are different Projects


[link to www.tepco.co.jp]

[link to www.tepco.co.jp]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62029415


The concept has failed already.

You are the one spreading fantasies ice wall and robot fantasies...
 Quoting: M1.618


Actually it must be the Plural: "Concepts,
they use two different Concepts, as you can read.

The Trenches are 5m/ Diameter,
to freeze this is highly difficult,
to create a Wall of frozen Soil is not,
it is a working Technology used since many Years!

You need to realize that both Projects are different
and i try to tell(not only-) you this since Weeks Chuckle

But "Mai Pen Rai"!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62029415


To create a frozen soil barrier around the site is very difficult, considering the soil conditions and strata, etc. This has never been attempted on a beach.

Do the research.
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how come there isn't massive plumes of steam rising where the melted cores contact the ground water?
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shh, the general population doesn't want to go through the effort of scientific observation, they just want doom
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how come there isn't massive plumes of steam rising where the melted cores contact the ground water?
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shh, the general population doesn't want to go through the effort of scientific observation, they just want doom
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steam has been rising on and off ever since this happened.... do an internet search for fukushima cam watcher forums.....

there are a whole set of groups of dedicated people to this end....
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There is only one solution, and it is to evacuate Japan and nuke Fukushima.
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norespect
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cruise
right?
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Radioactive material is radioactive simply due to it's specific atomic configuration. Energy level mismatches. A nuclear event of sufficient energy would vaporize the material, causing everything to rearrange into simpler isotopes.

You're going to get a lot of flipper babies, but it's one and done rather than letting the reaction go on for hundreds of years.

If it makes it easier to visualize, it's a hoedown where there's 4 guys to a gal. And what we do is we bring in a whole bunch more gals, and everyone mixes up and by the end of the night everyone's settled into couples the way it should be.

You get it now, pardner?
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I agree, except you'll need a bunker buster nuke for each core(20kt), detonated damn-near simultaneously, followed up by a 300+kt surface detonation to mop up and vaporize everything kicked up from underground.

Clear out everyone within a 20 mile radius and light the fuse. Come back in 5 years.
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Fountain of Poison.

It doesn't stop.
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interesting to see atom-twats defense all the way through this thread..... he's disgusting... not seen him reved up like that for a while... must have been all the insults thrown at him....

now you all know he's the same twat that has been here all along and my evidence is verified by his own admissions...

1. non-japanese
2. no qualifications

etc... the list goes on, but that's all we need for now...
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...


@ Dear Honey-Cake,

the "Ice-Wall" is not even ready yet (will be ready to use in 03/2015)
i told you this and brought the original Plan already a few Times
but you going on to spread Disinformation!


The Ice-Wall has nothing to do with the freezing of the Trenches,
both are different Projects


[link to www.tepco.co.jp]

[link to www.tepco.co.jp]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62029415


The concept has failed already.

You are the one spreading fantasies ice wall and robot fantasies...
 Quoting: M1.618


Actually it must be the Plural: "Concepts,
they use two different Concepts, as you can read.

The Trenches are 5m/ Diameter,
to freeze this is highly difficult,
to create a Wall of frozen Soil is not,
it is a working Technology used since many Years!

You need to realize that both Projects are different
and i try to tell(not only-) you this since Weeks Chuckle

But "Mai Pen Rai"!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62029415


To create a frozen soil barrier around the site is very difficult, considering the soil conditions and strata, etc. This has never been attempted on a beach.

Do the research.
 Quoting: M1.618


@ dear Honey-Cake,

actually FDNP. is not "on the Beach",
the right Term would be "on the Cliff" Flower

And it is not that difficult, just expensive!

But you need to study the Plan and the Blueprintos,
as long as you don't do it as long you are uninformed!

@ other Canadian and my Australian Stalker:

Rofl Lol & Chuckle
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...


The concept has failed already.

You are the one spreading fantasies ice wall and robot fantasies...
 Quoting: M1.618


Actually it must be the Plural: "Concepts,
they use two different Concepts, as you can read.

The Trenches are 5m/ Diameter,
to freeze this is highly difficult,
to create a Wall of frozen Soil is not,
it is a working Technology used since many Years!

You need to realize that both Projects are different
and i try to tell(not only-) you this since Weeks Chuckle

But "Mai Pen Rai"!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62029415


To create a frozen soil barrier around the site is very difficult, considering the soil conditions and strata, etc. This has never been attempted on a beach.

Do the research.
 Quoting: M1.618


@ dear Honey-Cake,

actually FDNP. is not "on the Beach",
the right Term would be "on the Cliff" Flower

And it is not that difficult, just expensive!

But you need to study the Plan and the Blueprintos,
as long as you don't do it as long you are uninformed!

@ other Canadian and my Australian Stalker:

Rofl Lol & Chuckle
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62104911


oh, and number 3. changing reference from real nics to rude insultings nics....

just as a heads up.. as an AC# he is misquoting the real author of a comment... that breaches copyrights.... report him, and earn some karma and boot his arse off your threads....

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Actually it must be the Plural: "Concepts,
they use two different Concepts, as you can read.

The Trenches are 5m/ Diameter,
to freeze this is highly difficult,
to create a Wall of frozen Soil is not,
it is a working Technology used since many Years!

You need to realize that both Projects are different
and i try to tell(not only-) you this since Weeks Chuckle

But "Mai Pen Rai"!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62029415


To create a frozen soil barrier around the site is very difficult, considering the soil conditions and strata, etc. This has never been attempted on a beach.

Do the research.
 Quoting: M1.618


@ dear Honey-Cake,

actually FDNP. is not "on the Beach",
the right Term would be "on the Cliff" Flower

And it is not that difficult, just expensive!

But you need to study the Plan and the Blueprintos,
as long as you don't do it as long you are uninformed!

@ other Canadian and my Australian Stalker:

Rofl Lol & Chuckle
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62104911


oh, and number 3. changing reference from real nics to rude insultings nics....

just as a heads up.. as an AC# he is misquoting the real author of a comment... that breaches copyrights.... report him, and earn some karma and boot his arse off your threads....
 Quoting: Citizenperth


I do not misquoting anyone,
i don't act like you!

Stalking much today, you do- means have no Sex Life which is quit understandable Flower





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