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BREAKING: Foley behading proven fake! US gov. says it is real! Who is right?

 
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What was clear the first moment we watched the video is now even proven by the MSM.

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]

"
But a study of the four-minute 40-second clip, carried out by an international forensic science company which has worked for police forces across Britain, suggested camera trickery and slick post-production techniques appear to have been used.

A forensic analyst told The Times that no blood can be seen, even though the knife is drawn across the neck area at least six times.
"

They forget to mention that a goat sound was inserted when he cuts.

I guess they had to admit it themselves. As the attempts to get it off the net were not futile and more and more analysis videos were put out.
And many did saw it was fake. (of course the shills on this site were all about "how dare you are")

How could the US gov. not see that it was fake what msot of us saw after one time watching?
All I can think of is that they wanted it to be real.

Whats your opinion?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62130006


My opinion is that you are

1. A Shill

or 2. Willfully ignorant and deliberately misleading

or 3. all of the above.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62130757


Perhaps TPTB wanted the video to turn out exactly the way they released it to create more division.

For example there is this reply above. Some sheep will always make that baaaa sound no matter the evidence shown to them. The brainwashing is very strong. Many, many years of practice helps.


 Quoting: Sobriquet™


I will break it down as follows:


The Plot - They made the video without much care to begin with considering the fact that the masses are too stupid do not deserve the effort they put in to even make it realistic. And as you can see, have they been wrong? Would you make any effort to sell something to someone stupid or won't pay attention to you?

The Deadline - They also made the video under a time constraint...I would think they have a deadline....perhaps 9/11 or another one. Donald Rumsfelt - Known Knows and Known unknowns. Something is coming that they have to move into this phase quickly

Damage Limitation - They weren't expecting that much people to catch so went into this phase to label whoever watches the video as a terrorist. Now they come out and totally declare the video as fake but that the beheading still took place because they want the sort to stick as it is what leads to the mother of all False Flags occurring.

Thread: Why James Foley's beheading was staged!

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What was clear the first moment we watched the video is now even proven by the MSM.

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]

"
But a study of the four-minute 40-second clip, carried out by an international forensic science company which has worked for police forces across Britain, suggested camera trickery and slick post-production techniques appear to have been used.

A forensic analyst told The Times that no blood can be seen, even though the knife is drawn across the neck area at least six times.
"

They forget to mention that a goat sound was inserted when he cuts.

I guess they had to admit it themselves. As the attempts to get it off the net were not futile and more and more analysis videos were put out.
And many did saw it was fake. (of course the shills on this site were all about "how dare you are")

How could the US gov. not see that it was fake what msot of us saw after one time watching?
All I can think of is that they wanted it to be real.

Whats your opinion?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62130006


The video is an obvious fake. The US government is LYING to us again. They know the video is fake. They likely were in on the production of the video. The US government claiming this video is real exposes them as frauds.

We cannot believe anything coming from the Obama administration. During fukushima initial meltdown they told all of us not to take iodine that it would harm our thyroids later was their excuse. They lied.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56681215


Exactly! But this is not tied to Obama..doesnt matter which puppet is up there. They use them until everyone thinks they are liars to put another puppet from the other political spectrum in his place which does the same with a different paint.

Im really interested how they spin it now after having experts analyzing it and declaring it fake.
This made some rounds already and I think they have to react in some way down the line.
I mean you need no forensic analyst to see its fake. Its totally inconsistent with anotomical logic and other beheadings.
And even more hearing the gargling sound but no cut.

But US gov. declared it real after extensive analysis lol.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62130006





I think the Obama does have a role in it. Your like saying that the usa being poisoned by fukushima and wipps is not Obama's fault. It is Obama's fault for doing nothing to prevent it. By doing nothing he did something. As a matter of fact I believe Obama is intentionally allowing the usa to be poisoned.

You keep saying other people. Obama is occupying the white house. Who is the head of the CIA ?? An Obama yes man. Who are all the generals in the military. All Obama yes men. This is Obama's admin and all his yes men's plan.
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"One expert commissioned to examine the footage was reported as saying: “I think it has been staged. My feeling is that the execution may have happened after the camera was stopped.”
Look at the second picture here:
[link to www.jimstonefreelance.com]
You can clearly see the body is lying in a pool of blood(near his waist you can see it).The body has fallen forward after the execution covering the blood pool.You can see a flap of skin on the body in the neck area.
This is not fake IMHO.
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What was clear the first moment we watched the video is now even proven by the MSM.

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]

"
But a study of the four-minute 40-second clip, carried out by an international forensic science company which has worked for police forces across Britain, suggested camera trickery and slick post-production techniques appear to have been used.

A forensic analyst told The Times that no blood can be seen, even though the knife is drawn across the neck area at least six times.
"

They forget to mention that a goat sound was inserted when he cuts.

I guess they had to admit it themselves. As the attempts to get it off the net were not futile and more and more analysis videos were put out.
And many did saw it was fake. (of course the shills on this site were all about "how dare you are")

How could the US gov. not see that it was fake what msot of us saw after one time watching?
All I can think of is that they wanted it to be real.

Whats your opinion?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62130006


The video is an obvious fake. The US government is LYING to us again. They know the video is fake. They likely were in on the production of the video. The US government claiming this video is real exposes them as frauds.

We cannot believe anything coming from the Obama administration. During fukushima initial meltdown they told all of us not to take iodine that it would harm our thyroids later was their excuse. They lied.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56681215


Exactly! But this is not tied to Obama..doesnt matter which puppet is up there. They use them until everyone thinks they are liars to put another puppet from the other political spectrum in his place which does the same with a different paint.

Im really interested how they spin it now after having experts analyzing it and declaring it fake.
This made some rounds already and I think they have to react in some way down the line.
I mean you need no forensic analyst to see its fake. Its totally inconsistent with anotomical logic and other beheadings.
And even more hearing the gargling sound but no cut.

But US gov. declared it real after extensive analysis lol.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62130006





I think the Obama does have a role in it. Your like saying that the usa being poisoned by fukushima and wipps is not Obama's fault. It is Obama's fault for doing nothing to prevent it. By doing nothing he did something. As a matter of fact I believe Obama is intentionally allowing the usa to be poisoned.

You keep saying other people. Obama is occupying the white house. Who is the head of the CIA ?? An Obama yes man. Who are all the generals in the military. All Obama yes men. This is Obama's admin and all his yes men's plan.
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he be right

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Fake tards are Fake
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"One expert commissioned to examine the footage was reported as saying: “I think it has been staged. My feeling is that the execution may have happened after the camera was stopped.”
Look at the second picture here:
[link to www.jimstonefreelance.com]
You can clearly see the body is lying in a pool of blood(near his waist you can see it).The body has fallen forward after the execution covering the blood pool.You can see a flap of skin on the body in the neck area.
This is not fake IMHO.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56986246


Yeah, you're right.

There's no way that this "still shot" could be faked by special effects professionals.

The media tells us the truth and is not controlled.

Just reporters reporting the news diligently bringing us the truth day in and day out.
Government...
Govern: CONTROL
Ment: MIND
CONTROL MIND;MIND CONTROL

The terrorists attacks which will be launched in the United States will be blamed upon middle eastern religious fanatics, Christian fundamentalists, white supremacists, Patriots, or Militias. A more immediate result of these operations will be the increased use of military forces, weaponry, and equipment such as tanks and armored personnel carriers in civilian law enforcement, the suspension or elimination of Habeas Corpus, the elimination of jury trials, the attempted disarming of the American People, and the institution of martial law with show-trials conducted by a tribunal of judges. - William Cooper 1997 (RIP)

"If it's TRUE, it cannot be a THEORY!"
-- Kentroversy (02/23/07)

The light is always stronger than the darkness.

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19

Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29
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"One expert commissioned to examine the footage was reported as saying: “I think it has been staged. My feeling is that the execution may have happened after the camera was stopped.”
Look at the second picture here:
[link to www.jimstonefreelance.com]
You can clearly see the body is lying in a pool of blood(near his waist you can see it).The body has fallen forward after the execution covering the blood pool.You can see a flap of skin on the body in the neck area.
This is not fake IMHO.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56986246


this is probably one of the most embarrassing cons that they have had to defend...JFK's hoax was bad but this fell apart and there is no defense, lame at best. They got caught in their lie and it woke us a lot more people. WOW this is not going to drop from the public perception, it now appear permanent, heck I'll bump it as a reminder of how slack TPTB are.
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This must let the appearences of the family seem fake even to the most naive sheep:
Fake Studio setting during interview of the siblings?


Parents joking and smilling day after son got beheaded:



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if the biggest gangster on the planet asked you to act you would have to .
and you would be annoyed you were duping you fellow man for the greed of them
and probly give clues
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Why it isn't fake:

1. THE FAMILY

No amount of planning or coersion could foster an entire family, through 30+ years of kids, school and friends and colleagues just to fabricate a news event 3 decades in the future. the possibilities for exposure are infinite.

thats beyond ridiculous, even for a conpsiracy theorist.


2. THE NEWS APPEARANCES and FAMILY STATEMENTS


It's common practice for any studio (news included) to have a 'familiar room'. A room that looks like it's in somebody's home. That's exactly what the brother and sister are sat in.

That's exactly why people are seen passing the window and exactly why the picture falls off, its not constructed well enough and there's too much activity.

It's also the reason they are brought disposable cups of coffee etc. They're all in a STUDIO and at NO POINT is it claimed they were in their own home. Repeat: They are not in their own home and it was never insinuated that they were, only presumption and knee-jerk reactions by the general CT community looking for answers.

The Parents are clearly traumatised, on medication and no doubt they have all grieved in advance of the actual murder of their son, considering he has been kidnapped by lunatics for the previous 2 years. We all grieve differently, in stages, and with many varied ways of showing or concealing that grief.

The Siblings display a lack of what we could call genuine emotion for the same reasons listed above. They probably wrote JF off a long time ago.

3. THE ACTUAL VIDEO

The use of any editing suite does not implicitly suggest western intervention. any fool can learn how to add text effects and transitions in AE or Premiere Pro in half an hour - using Youtube or EVEN THE MANUAL INCLUDED IN THE PROGRAM..

Neither does having two or three different cameras and angles mean it was created by the CIA. There is surely more than one HD camera in the Middle East and many, many people who know how to press the relevant buttons.

The British Fundy Terrorist clearly wrote the words that James Foley was forced to say, the diction and grammar are too perfect to have been scripted by the average Arab.

I suggest that the two brave Americans were forced to make a mock execution video, with promises of anything or nothing and with the assurance that it was only for propaganda purposes, and that's why Foley doesn't seem that frightened as he speaks.

The traditional 'Muslim' way is to feed and be hospitable to their 'guests'. I believe this is why the two captives appear so well-fed and unstressed. Perhaps they were kept as TROPHY PIECES and kept accordingly, to be rolled-out at an indeterminate time in the future.


It ALSO explains why the murderer in black saws away at Foley's neck without breaking the skin and then cuts to black. It ALSO explains how he has no blood on his ninja outfit after he parades the remaining prisoner after supposedly beheading Foley.


I propose that after the relevant sections were filmed, some other primitive nutjob decided to just kill Foley anyway, and that is EXACTLY why the knife on the floor in the still shot of the decapitated James Foley is a different one to the one in Ninja's hand.


SOLUTIONS:

Get it all over with, carpet bomb everything so the rest of the world can live in peace and without threat.
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LOL!!! Nice rant!! "Get it all over with?"" How is that ever possible??? IDIOT!
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The one shill talking about "carpet bombing". America spent trillion dolla bills trying to get rid of this. So basically if all the money in world didnt do it the 1st time it cant be done. Or it was never ment to be done of course.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44288319


I do question the trillions of dollars that are missing from our government and the Federal Reserve.. is this what they spend such an amount on... Trying to keep the public ignorant so they can play their games without having to have public involvement...


Looks like we've figured out the game
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What was clear the first moment we watched the video is now even proven by the MSM.

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]

"
But a study of the four-minute 40-second clip, carried out by an international forensic science company which has worked for police forces across Britain, suggested camera trickery and slick post-production techniques appear to have been used.

A forensic analyst told The Times that no blood can be seen, even though the knife is drawn across the neck area at least six times.
"

They forget to mention that a goat sound was inserted when he cuts.

I guess they had to admit it themselves. As the attempts to get it off the net were not futile and more and more analysis videos were put out.
And many did saw it was fake. (of course the shills on this site were all about "how dare you are")

How could the US gov. not see that it was fake what msot of us saw after one time watching?
All I can think of is that they wanted it to be real.

Whats your opinion?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62130006


The video is an obvious fake. The US government is LYING to us again. They know the video is fake. They likely were in on the production of the video. The US government claiming this video is real exposes them as frauds.

We cannot believe anything coming from the Obama administration. During fukushima initial meltdown they told all of us not to take iodine that it would harm our thyroids later was their excuse. They lied.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56681215


Exactly! But this is not tied to Obama..doesnt matter which puppet is up there. They use them until everyone thinks they are liars to put another puppet from the other political spectrum in his place which does the same with a different paint.

Im really interested how they spin it now after having experts analyzing it and declaring it fake.
This made some rounds already and I think they have to react in some way down the line.
I mean you need no forensic analyst to see its fake. Its totally inconsistent with anotomical logic and other beheadings.
And even more hearing the gargling sound but no cut.

But US gov. declared it real after extensive analysis lol.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62130006





I think the Obama does have a role in it. Your like saying that the usa being poisoned by fukushima and wipps is not Obama's fault. It is Obama's fault for doing nothing to prevent it. By doing nothing he did something. As a matter of fact I believe Obama is intentionally allowing the usa to be poisoned.

You keep saying other people. Obama is occupying the white house. Who is the head of the CIA ?? An Obama yes man. Who are all the generals in the military. All Obama yes men. This is Obama's admin and all his yes men's plan.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56681215


Obama is the puppet. He just sells the stuff to the outside. Its the same familys over and over again that rule this nation. Its the powers that be. They select who will be in the race for president.
The left right paradigm is just a means of control.
You think that if Obama is gone and some republican comes in that things change? Thats very naive. They are all controlled by the very same elite.
They dont think in a 4 year or 8 year presidential term.
They think in the way of pushing agendas in light of a public opinion that they control. In some years it seasier to push a more lefty agenda and then some more righty agenda.

Blaming something on a single men like Obama Bush or Romney or whomever is exactly what they want you to do. The real perpetrators sit behind the scenes. It goes on and on that game until they have full control of every part of the world.
Until you guys dont understand that it is not about persons in the white house but a change of the person behind the scenes you will be played until the end of times..
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The one shill talking about "carpet bombing". America spent trillion dolla bills trying to get rid of this. So basically if all the money in world didnt do it the 1st time it cant be done. Or it was never ment to be done of course.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44288319


I do question the trillions of dollars that are missing from our government and the Federal Reserve.. is this what they spend such an amount on... Trying to keep the public ignorant so they can play their games without having to have public involvement...


Looks like we've figured out the game
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Its done everywhere. Allocate double the amount ended and then use it to push the hidden black ops agenda.
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"One expert commissioned to examine the footage was reported as saying: “I think it has been staged. My feeling is that the execution may have happened after the camera was stopped.”
Look at the second picture here:
[link to www.jimstonefreelance.com]
You can clearly see the body is lying in a pool of blood(near his waist you can see it).The body has fallen forward after the execution covering the blood pool.You can see a flap of skin on the body in the neck area.
This is not fake IMHO.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56986246


this is probably one of the most embarrassing cons that they have had to defend...JFK's hoax was bad but this fell apart and there is no defense, lame at best. They got caught in their lie and it woke us a lot more people. WOW this is not going to drop from the public perception, it now appear permanent, heck I'll bump it as a reminder of how slack TPTB are.
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The problem is that the masses get dumber by the day. They eat up every shit served. Thus all this stuff is tailor made for them. Its not made for people who are awake. The masses deal with people who are awake in ridiculing them and in the worst they will just kill em off.

But their B.S will always show cause in the end the people who plan this shit only know how to play bad games ..games of lies. So the truth will always show no matter how sophisticated they might get.
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WTC 7 FTW!
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Its astounishing how easy the masses are played with.
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What was clear the first moment we watched the video is now even proven by the MSM.

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]

"
But a study of the four-minute 40-second clip, carried out by an international forensic science company which has worked for police forces across Britain, suggested camera trickery and slick post-production techniques appear to have been used.

A forensic analyst told The Times that no blood can be seen, even though the knife is drawn across the neck area at least six times.
"

They forget to mention that a goat sound was inserted when he cuts.

I guess they had to admit it themselves. As the attempts to get it off the net were not futile and more and more analysis videos were put out.
And many did saw it was fake. (of course the shills on this site were all about "how dare you are")

How could the US gov. not see that it was fake what msot of us saw after one time watching?
All I can think of is that they wanted it to be real.

Whats your opinion?
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Try "beheading" you assclown!
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A Fine Mess
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Yup, FAKE
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Ok so does that means the british rapper is an agent?

[liveleak] [link to www.liveleak.com]
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His father is rich and was part of Al Qaida. And we know for a fact that Al Qaida was/is heavily controlled/conencted to by the CIA.

Its a pretext for war involvment. It worked the first time when foley was abducted in Lybia. And they just did it again.
The greater means is to make new borders in the middle east and throw out any of the governments who are not cooperating with the IMF.

I wonder what they will do with the other guy Sotlof. Could be they will make it now real(er) to make anyone who doubted that the whole thing is fake look bad.
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Doesn't explain why the UK MSM are standing behind the notion this is staged... unless a rift has occured.
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bump

Yeah, the Brits didn't like the idea of one of their "rappers" being the hatchet man. "Oh HE isn't the one who did it, its the guy off camera who ACTUALLY did it..."

FOX is all over this... Saying "There is no question that Foley is dead...Just whether the video was staged"

WTF?! Why? Why is the idea of Foley being alive so "far fetched"?! You just said the video that you were slobbering all over a couple days ago is fake- but the notion that the man is still living is not on the table?? Did ISIL send the severed head to the family via FedEx or something!?
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If it's fake what does the real Foley guy do -- get a new identity? Or, was he killed somewhere else? If so, that must mean media types, or at least some, are very expendable to the PTB.

I confess, I'm confused.
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If it's fake what does the real Foley guy do -- get a new identity? Or, was he killed somewhere else? If so, that must mean media types, or at least some, are very expendable to the PTB.

I confess, I'm confused.
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Already in the bunker? (English lit. teacher for Sandy Hook kids) chuckle

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Ok so does that means the british rapper is an agent?

[liveleak] [link to www.liveleak.com]
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His father is rich and was part of Al Qaida. And we know for a fact that Al Qaida was/is heavily controlled/conencted to by the CIA.

Its a pretext for war involvment. It worked the first time when foley was abducted in Lybia. And they just did it again.
The greater means is to make new borders in the middle east and throw out any of the governments who are not cooperating with the IMF.

I wonder what they will do with the other guy Sotlof. Could be they will make it now real(er) to make anyone who doubted that the whole thing is fake look bad.
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Doesn't explain why the UK MSM are standing behind the notion this is staged... unless a rift has occured.
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Yeah, the Brits didn't like the idea of one of their "rappers" being the hatchet man. "Oh HE isn't the one who did it, its the guy off camera who ACTUALLY did it..."

FOX is all over this... Saying "There is no question that Foley is dead...Just whether the video was staged"

WTF?! Why? Why is the idea of Foley being alive so "far fetched"?! You just said the video that you were slobbering all over a couple days ago is fake- but the notion that the man is still living is not on the table?? Did ISIL send the severed head to the family via FedEx or something!?
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I saw some phot forensic videos on youtube that showed the corpse and head were fake too. All videos that have even a inverted pciture of the headless corpes are deleted by youtube. GET this: They are deleting a fake video cause it looks too real. Someone in the UK should go to the police and make a self charge for sharing this video and then proof in court its fake ^^

FBI told the family that it is real.

Cant wait for an official response! Their experts reviewed it and said it is real while anyone can see that it is obviously not real.

Of course the media spins it and they can but how will the government spin it? Quiet interesting.

Of course together with the fake family acting all weird it makes sense.
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If it's fake what does the real Foley guy do -- get a new identity? Or, was he killed somewhere else? If so, that must mean media types, or at least some, are very expendable to the PTB.

I confess, I'm confused.
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Well its hard to know that exactly but there are many ways.
Its easy to change appearence with enough money.
Of course many media types are from the PTB.
They are all in positions that are needed to control and avoid that anyone from the sheep gets into this position.

Anderson cooper vanderbilt is a prime example of shaping public opinion.

Foley family is military. Foley might just be an agent acting as crisis photograph... perfect cover I would say.
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If it's fake what does the real Foley guy do -- get a new identity? Or, was he killed somewhere else? If so, that must mean media types, or at least some, are very expendable to the PTB.

I confess, I'm confused.
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Well its hard to know that exactly but there are many ways.
Its easy to change appearence with enough money.
Of course many media types are from the PTB.
They are all in positions that are needed to control and avoid that anyone from the sheep gets into this position.

Anderson cooper vanderbilt is a prime example of shaping public opinion.

Foley family is military. Foley might just be an agent acting as crisis photograph... perfect cover I would say.
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He's probably living a comfortable life with his husband in downtown Tel Aviv...
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His father is rich and was part of Al Qaida. And we know for a fact that Al Qaida was/is heavily controlled/conencted to by the CIA.

Its a pretext for war involvment. It worked the first time when foley was abducted in Lybia. And they just did it again.
The greater means is to make new borders in the middle east and throw out any of the governments who are not cooperating with the IMF.

I wonder what they will do with the other guy Sotlof. Could be they will make it now real(er) to make anyone who doubted that the whole thing is fake look bad.
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Doesn't explain why the UK MSM are standing behind the notion this is staged... unless a rift has occured.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62035643


bump

Yeah, the Brits didn't like the idea of one of their "rappers" being the hatchet man. "Oh HE isn't the one who did it, its the guy off camera who ACTUALLY did it..."

FOX is all over this... Saying "There is no question that Foley is dead...Just whether the video was staged"

WTF?! Why? Why is the idea of Foley being alive so "far fetched"?! You just said the video that you were slobbering all over a couple days ago is fake- but the notion that the man is still living is not on the table?? Did ISIL send the severed head to the family via FedEx or something!?
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I saw some phot forensic videos on youtube that showed the corpse and head were fake too. All videos that have even a inverted pciture of the headless corpes are deleted by youtube. GET this: They are deleting a fake video cause it looks too real. Someone in the UK should go to the police and make a self charge for sharing this video and then proof in court its fake ^^

FBI told the family that it is real.

Cant wait for an official response! Their experts reviewed it and said it is real while anyone can see that it is obviously not real.

Of course the media spins it and they can but how will the government spin it? Quiet interesting.

Of course together with the fake family acting all weird it makes sense.
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Why do they keep insisting on the "fake family" crisis actor thing? In this situation they could have done just fine with out one. Why don't they learn from their mistakes?

Did this kinda thing happen all along, but before the internet and photoshop, etc... and it was hard to compare and see unedited media? Now we just SEE it- Or are they getting sloppier and sloppier? And if so, is it on purpose, or are they just incompetent idiots?
I think it might be "on purpose" for whatever reason. NO ONE sucks this bad, at this level- unless they try.
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Doesn't explain why the UK MSM are standing behind the notion this is staged... unless a rift has occured.
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bump

Yeah, the Brits didn't like the idea of one of their "rappers" being the hatchet man. "Oh HE isn't the one who did it, its the guy off camera who ACTUALLY did it..."

FOX is all over this... Saying "There is no question that Foley is dead...Just whether the video was staged"

WTF?! Why? Why is the idea of Foley being alive so "far fetched"?! You just said the video that you were slobbering all over a couple days ago is fake- but the notion that the man is still living is not on the table?? Did ISIL send the severed head to the family via FedEx or something!?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61195854


I saw some phot forensic videos on youtube that showed the corpse and head were fake too. All videos that have even a inverted pciture of the headless corpes are deleted by youtube. GET this: They are deleting a fake video cause it looks too real. Someone in the UK should go to the police and make a self charge for sharing this video and then proof in court its fake ^^

FBI told the family that it is real.

Cant wait for an official response! Their experts reviewed it and said it is real while anyone can see that it is obviously not real.

Of course the media spins it and they can but how will the government spin it? Quiet interesting.

Of course together with the fake family acting all weird it makes sense.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62130006


Why do they keep insisting on the "fake family" crisis actor thing? In this situation they could have done just fine with out one. Why don't they learn from their mistakes?

Did this kinda thing happen all along, but before the internet and photoshop, etc... and it was hard to compare and see unedited media? Now we just SEE it- Or are they getting sloppier and sloppier? And if so, is it on purpose, or are they just incompetent idiots?
I think it might be "on purpose" for whatever reason. NO ONE sucks this bad, at this level- unless they try.
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The beheading is fake and done so for a good reason because the whole world is too stupid to even deserve the effort to make this video more realistic. The fake video is a way for the PTB to get a kick out of this whole drama.
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Why it isn't fake:

1. THE FAMILY

No amount of planning or coersion could foster an entire family, through 30+ years of kids, school and friends and colleagues just to fabricate a news event 3 decades in the future. the possibilities for exposure are infinite.

thats beyond ridiculous, even for a conpsiracy theorist.


2. THE NEWS APPEARANCES and FAMILY STATEMENTS


It's common practice for any studio (news included) to have a 'familiar room'. A room that looks like it's in somebody's home. That's exactly what the brother and sister are sat in.

That's exactly why people are seen passing the window and exactly why the picture falls off, its not constructed well enough and there's too much activity.

It's also the reason they are brought disposable cups of coffee etc. They're all in a STUDIO and at NO POINT is it claimed they were in their own home. Repeat: They are not in their own home and it was never insinuated that they were, only presumption and knee-jerk reactions by the general CT community looking for answers.

The Parents are clearly traumatised, on medication and no doubt they have all grieved in advance of the actual murder of their son, considering he has been kidnapped by lunatics for the previous 2 years. We all grieve differently, in stages, and with many varied ways of showing or concealing that grief.

The Siblings display a lack of what we could call genuine emotion for the same reasons listed above. They probably wrote JF off a long time ago.

3. THE ACTUAL VIDEO

The use of any editing suite does not implicitly suggest western intervention. any fool can learn how to add text effects and transitions in AE or Premiere Pro in half an hour - using Youtube or EVEN THE MANUAL INCLUDED IN THE PROGRAM..

Neither does having two or three different cameras and angles mean it was created by the CIA. There is surely more than one HD camera in the Middle East and many, many people who know how to press the relevant buttons.

The British Fundy Terrorist clearly wrote the words that James Foley was forced to say, the diction and grammar are too perfect to have been scripted by the average Arab.

I suggest that the two brave Americans were forced to make a mock execution video, with promises of anything or nothing and with the assurance that it was only for propaganda purposes, and that's why Foley doesn't seem that frightened as he speaks.

The traditional 'Muslim' way is to feed and be hospitable to their 'guests'. I believe this is why the two captives appear so well-fed and unstressed. Perhaps they were kept as TROPHY PIECES and kept accordingly, to be rolled-out at an indeterminate time in the future.


It ALSO explains why the murderer in black saws away at Foley's neck without breaking the skin and then cuts to black. It ALSO explains how he has no blood on his ninja outfit after he parades the remaining prisoner after supposedly beheading Foley.


I propose that after the relevant sections were filmed, some other primitive nutjob decided to just kill Foley anyway, and that is EXACTLY why the knife on the floor in the still shot of the decapitated James Foley is a different one to the one in Ninja's hand.


SOLUTIONS:

Get it all over with, carpet bomb everything so the rest of the world can live in peace and without threat.
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Thank you for the insertion of logic, good judgment, and sanity on this matter.
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You could have just yelled that to him over the cubical wall...

In case you haven't noticed there a bunch of you guys jacking each other off on this thread and everyone else can tell.
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Lol dont count on the dutch. They are as controlled as anyone else. It just happens from time to time in a smaller country that a real person comes near a position of power.

Regarding people oblivious to the charade:
They either dont care as they have anything they need for today and tomorrow. Or/and many are in such low state of conciousness that they dont have access to the means of seeing through such a charade.
And a large portion of the public is trapped in fear which prevents you from thinking properly.
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Video obviously fake and still no reaction of US officials?

This is a crazy big pile of B.S





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