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help me out GLP - give me your honest opinion about this family squabble
I think my sister is crazy but maybe I'm the one who's nuts... long story short we went to visit other family a few weeks ago and she was there (I usually try to avoid her)

She was the only adult in the room when her teenage daughter and another cousin started joking about things my son is very sensitive about and he started crying. My anger was not necessarily in what was said knowing he was very emotional in general and might have just been too thin skinned but that no one cared he was hurt by WHATEVER happened. Instead of apologizing everyone (including the adult) started defending themselves and still showed no concern.

I called my sister out on it and it got very ugly. 10 minutes later her complete bitch of a daughter comes in and nastily says "I guess I'm supposed to apologize to you about some dead guy or something" and that was the last straw.

I packed up my stuff and left on a 2 day drive the next morning (a week early). I called my husband from the road and, crying, explained some of it. He then fired off this email and right after is her response... FYI - I just found out today because he didn't want me to know how she responded but my mom asked me about it, so apparently she's been talking a storm up...


On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Ted wrote:

Clare,

Juliet told me this morning that you made Nicolas cry while making fun of the friend from our neighborhood who died in a motorcycle accident last weekend for riding without a helmet and having a funny name. That really made me dissapointed in you, I thought you had more integrity than that.  Nicolas is just a boy, even though his physical appearance is more like that of a young man. I think sometimes people forget that and just see the outside.

As you know, the while family has had a rough time this month between having to put our beloved Ringo down, my job concerns and company layoffs and now this unexpected tragedy that hits so close to home.  And now I hear you are angry that Juliet called you out on it and screamed at her.   I'll pray for you that God will open your heart and fill you with His love. That you will be forgiven and free forever.

Take care,
Ted

On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Clare wrote:

Dear Ted --

If you believe everything you hear, you are truly foolish. Your absence from the situation attributes to your complete lack of perspective, and yet your subsequent judgement speak volumes.

You and I do not have a relationship that would warrant this kind of communication. I presume you sent this to me to have some effect which eludes me, and honestly makes me question your intentions, not to mention your grasp on reality.

Please keep your opinions to yourself in the future as I have no interest or investment in your opinion of me or your skewed and vapid communications.

I truly hope that your family gets the help it so desperately needs.

Sincerely -
Clare

Tell me what you think GLP...

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Was your sister saying she thinks he wants to hit that?
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very sad.
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Was your sister saying she thinks he wants to hit that?
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No I think she's trying to say she hates him and they don't have the kind of relationship where he gets to say he's disappointed in her etc...

She dislikes him cuz he's called her out on her bs before, namely the crap she pulls with her ex husband with their divorce and custody issues.
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Clare seems pretty intelligent and articulate. I think we'd be friends.
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very sad.
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I'm asking honestly - is there something I did or didn't do that made the situation that bad? Should I try to fix it?
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Don't air your dirty laundry in ANY public forum. Especially here.

Why do you care what people here think? Your story is too personal and vague to understand anywyS
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Clare seems pretty intelligent and articulate. I think we'd be friends.
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So you like people who make young boys cry and then defend themselves by yelling at the boy they're a liar?
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Well, I'm sorry to be so blunt but honestly you and your husband tried to communicate with her your issue and she acted very immaturely. Let that be a lesson learned that you and your husband and son are all you can worry about. Let her be how she wants bc you and your husband can't change or help her. No, I don't think your crazy either (: Cling to God, your husband and son, they're all that matter. (: and pray for everyone in the world, it's all we can do. I know how you feel.. wanting relationships to be healthy and not fucked up in families but sometimes it just doesn't work out the way we'd like. Hope this helps.. God bless (:
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Don't air your dirty laundry in ANY public forum. Especially here.

Why do you care what people here think? Your story is too personal and vague to understand anywyS
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Because I know glp will be brutally honest with me and I'm hoping to learn something from it... either what my part is or if I have to cut ties...

And I seriously doubt a post on glp is gonna make the headline news...
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Clare seems pretty intelligent and articulate. I think we'd be friends.
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So you like people who make young boys cry and then defend themselves by yelling at the boy they're a liar?
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No, I'm just saying that I tend to understand and relate better to those who can communicate as clearly and concisely as she does as opposed to, say, you.
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Op if you think you can take her: handle it like that.

If not... start plotting/thinking devious.
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you = thin skinned (you gave it yo your boy)

your sister = crazy bitch

her complete bitch of a daughter= needs to be slapped
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I have a sister and brother like her but even worse as my sister is truly evil and I think demon posessed. Brother and sister only in the sense of being biological brother and sister. As far as being a real brother and sister they are not. No one on this earth has caused me more misery, suffering and pain then those two.

My mother just died recently and now I have no more reason to ever communicate with either again in my lifetime.


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Just because someone is "family" does not make them a decent human being. Avoid these psychopaths because they feed on hurting others. Write them off and tell others why. They will also need to be watched around the old and vulnerable,as their selfish abuse of others is potentially dangerous or even criminal.
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Clare seems pretty intelligent and articulate. I think we'd be friends.
 Quoting: Getz


So you like people who make young boys cry and then defend themselves by yelling at the boy they're a liar?
 Quoting: julesvm


No, I'm just saying that I tend to understand and relate better to those who can communicate as clearly and concisely as she does as opposed to, say, you.
 Quoting: Getz


Fair enough...
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You are all crazy.

Call A & E and get a reality show. I'll watch.
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I think my sister is crazy but maybe I'm the one who's nuts... long story short we went to visit other family a few weeks ago and she was there (I usually try to avoid her)

She was the only adult in the room when her teenage daughter and another cousin started joking about things my son is very sensitive about and he started crying. My anger was not necessarily in what was said knowing he was very emotional in general and might have just been too thin skinned but that no one cared he was hurt by WHATEVER happened. Instead of apologizing everyone (including the adult) started defending themselves and still showed no concern.

I called my sister out on it and it got very ugly. 10 minutes later her complete bitch of a daughter comes in and nastily says "I guess I'm supposed to apologize to you about some dead guy or something" and that was the last straw.

I packed up my stuff and left on a 2 day drive the next morning (a week early). I called my husband from the road and, crying, explained some of it. He then fired off this email and right after is her response... FYI - I just found out today because he didn't want me to know how she responded but my mom asked me about it, so apparently she's been talking a storm up...


On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Ted wrote:

Clare,

Juliet told me this morning that you made Nicolas cry while making fun of the friend from our neighborhood who died in a motorcycle accident last weekend for riding without a helmet and having a funny name. That really made me dissapointed in you, I thought you had more integrity than that.  Nicolas is just a boy, even though his physical appearance is more like that of a young man. I think sometimes people forget that and just see the outside.

As you know, the while family has had a rough time this month between having to put our beloved Ringo down, my job concerns and company layoffs and now this unexpected tragedy that hits so close to home.  And now I hear you are angry that Juliet called you out on it and screamed at her.   I'll pray for you that God will open your heart and fill you with His love. That you will be forgiven and free forever.

Take care,
Ted

On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Clare wrote:

Dear Ted --

If you believe everything you hear, you are truly foolish. Your absence from the situation attributes to your complete lack of perspective, and yet your subsequent judgement speak volumes.

You and I do not have a relationship that would warrant this kind of communication. I presume you sent this to me to have some effect which eludes me, and honestly makes me question your intentions, not to mention your grasp on reality.

Please keep your opinions to yourself in the future as I have no interest or investment in your opinion of me or your skewed and vapid communications.

I truly hope that your family gets the help it so desperately needs.

Sincerely -
Clare

Tell me what you think GLP...
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Sis is a narcissist....a COMPLETE narcissist......best action would be not to ever expect any compassion from her...of any kind.

Sorry
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I think my sister is crazy but maybe I'm the one who's nuts... long story short we went to visit other family a few weeks ago and she was there (I usually try to avoid her)

She was the only adult in the room when her teenage daughter and another cousin started joking about things my son is very sensitive about and he started crying. My anger was not necessarily in what was said knowing he was very emotional in general and might have just been too thin skinned but that no one cared he was hurt by WHATEVER happened. Instead of apologizing everyone (including the adult) started defending themselves and still showed no concern.

I called my sister out on it and it got very ugly. 10 minutes later her complete bitch of a daughter comes in and nastily says "I guess I'm supposed to apologize to you about some dead guy or something" and that was the last straw.

I packed up my stuff and left on a 2 day drive the next morning (a week early). I called my husband from the road and, crying, explained some of it. He then fired off this email and right after is her response... FYI - I just found out today because he didn't want me to know how she responded but my mom asked me about it, so apparently she's been talking a storm up...


On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Ted wrote:

Clare,

Juliet told me this morning that you made Nicolas cry while making fun of the friend from our neighborhood who died in a motorcycle accident last weekend for riding without a helmet and having a funny name. That really made me dissapointed in you, I thought you had more integrity than that.  Nicolas is just a boy, even though his physical appearance is more like that of a young man. I think sometimes people forget that and just see the outside.

As you know, the while family has had a rough time this month between having to put our beloved Ringo down, my job concerns and company layoffs and now this unexpected tragedy that hits so close to home.  And now I hear you are angry that Juliet called you out on it and screamed at her.   I'll pray for you that God will open your heart and fill you with His love. That you will be forgiven and free forever.

Take care,
Ted

On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Clare wrote:

Dear Ted --

If you believe everything you hear, you are truly foolish. Your absence from the situation attributes to your complete lack of perspective, and yet your subsequent judgement speak volumes.

You and I do not have a relationship that would warrant this kind of communication. I presume you sent this to me to have some effect which eludes me, and honestly makes me question your intentions, not to mention your grasp on reality.

Please keep your opinions to yourself in the future as I have no interest or investment in your opinion of me or your skewed and vapid communications.

I truly hope that your family gets the help it so desperately needs.

Sincerely -
Clare

Tell me what you think GLP...
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oops..double post

Last Edited by Truthserum on 08/29/2014 10:40 PM
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very sad.
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I'm asking honestly - is there something I did or didn't do that made the situation that bad? Should I try to fix it?
 Quoting: julesvm


You can't "fix" another human being...no
FACTS Don't Give a DAMN about your FEELINGS!
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Life's too short for that sh*t.

Cut them off.

They are not going to change.
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I feel Clare missed the point entirely by her articulate, yet deflective response.
Not a word about hurting you sons feelings....
I don't allow people like that to
Hang in my kingdom.

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Life's too short for that sh*t.

Cut them off.

They are not going to change.
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bump
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you = thin skinned (you gave it yo your boy)

your sister = crazy bitch

her complete bitch of a daughter= needs to be slapped
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Just to be clear I am definitely thin skinned when it comes to my kids and don't think that will ever change. My son was very emotional and thin skinned that night because it was all crumbling down on him - our dog died a week before, my husband may or may not have a job if we don't move and we found out the day before a family friend died.

Her daughter is a mess (16) I hate to say it since she's just a kid and comes from a broken home but I don't like her - she will he a nightmare in a few more years and my sister doesn't do anything about it.
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Protect your son.

Disengage from your sister and her kids, They sound terrible.
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Clare seems pretty intelligent and articulate. I think we'd be friends.
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So you like people who make young boys cry and then defend themselves by yelling at the boy they're a liar?
 Quoting: julesvm


Not really enough of the actual dialog to understand what took place. If she said, "it's stupid for people to ride motorcycles without helmets, they are just asking for trouble..." that's one thing. "I'm glad your nitwit neighbor got himself taken out of the gene pool..." is quite another.

We hear/see what we want to...perception is a powerful tool.
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you = thin skinned (you gave it yo your boy)

your sister = crazy bitch

her complete bitch of a daughter= needs to be slapped
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Just to be clear I am definitely thin skinned when it comes to my kids and don't think that will ever change. My son was very emotional and thin skinned that night because it was all crumbling down on him - our dog died a week before, my husband may or may not have a job if we don't move and we found out the day before a family friend died.

Her daughter is a mess (16) I hate to say it since she's just a kid and comes from a broken home but I don't like her - she will he a nightmare in a few more years and my sister doesn't do anything about it.
 Quoting: julesvm


Sister will reap what she sows. No worries there.
I am sorry this has been such a hard time on your family.
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I hate to tell you this but your sister sounds like complete b*tch and thinks she's better than you and your husband and she's raising her daughter to be "just like her." She sounds very shallow and miserable. I agree with the poster above you should cut her off. You don't need her approval.





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Was your sister saying she thinks he wants to hit that?
 Quoting: hmm 62299863


No I think she's trying to say she hates him and they don't have the kind of relationship where he gets to say he's disappointed in her etc...

She dislikes him cuz he's called her out on her bs before, namely the crap she pulls with her ex husband with their divorce and custody issues.
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The fact that SHE's divorced and you and your husband are still together is a bee sting to her. It reminds her of her own fail...
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Oh really?

I think Clare seems like a cunt.

You and your wife should both keep the fuck away from her.

I have a bitch sister similar to Clare who seems to want to fuck with/mock/humiliate others for fun.

Her karma is written, and so is "Clarey's."

Just you and your wife live your lives and let "Clare" live hers. She is not worth wiping your ass with. Believe it.

Truth.
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every human being has the right to express themselves if and when they feel violated.

There is no reason to expect the violating party to care.
If that party happens to be a narcissist it would be wise
to accept that fact and keep the relationship to a minimum.

Whatever path the narcissist's life may take, at least you will have put the ball in their court, so to speak.

It will be up to her and the universe as to when and how
she chooses to engage in responsible human relationships, if ever.

But, you and your husband defended your son
and he has witnessed the difference between self respect and self serving.

A valuable lesson

A word to the wise, try to be more pro active
in regards to the "relationship"

I've seen amazing things with kids who "get it".





GLP