I CANNOT believe what I have just seen outside!!! Sheffield UK!!

Probably a pie in the sky. You love pies up there. Just kidding, who doesn't?

What you saw was an entity. Not a ship from another planet. Not good news for you.

Come now, free from sin is freedom from the the power of sin, death. If we confess our sin Jesus forgives us making us free.

To claim we have no sin? We decieve ourselves, if we say we have not sinned we make Jesus a liar.


1 John 1:8-10

King James Version (KJV)

8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

It seems obvious to me that you do not believe in Jesus Christ. Therefore you are being set up and will pay the awful price if you will not seek the Lord while you are still blessed with a little time.

2Th 2:7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

2Th 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

2Th 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

2Th 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

2Th 2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

I know me and my sister witnessed two Ufo darting in and out clouds at great spreed in UK. Unless you see it people will never believe it.
Something strange

So you cancel out the effects of sins but you can just keep on wallowing in it? Sound like a sweet deal! Wonder why some will say 'Lord, Lord' and be turned away when that day comes if that's the case?

And this verse (you just quoted), I guess that's yet another misunderstanding: "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness"

I guess It's more like repent once attain perpetual forgiveness of sins and guaranteed salvation? Something like that, huh? "Ye have your fruit unto holiness" Yet another confusing verse?

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You do not even believe the new testament, so you have nothing but an Anti Christ spirit within you.

Go play with your Muslim friends.

Welcome aboard.
Here's how it will go for you. You'll wonder, why me? Am I special? Were they trying to communicate with me?
What does this mean?

Then in about two years, you'll be forced to conclude it meant nothing. That it might as well should not have happened.

Then in 4 years, you'll chalk it up to possible hallucination...even though you've never hallucinated before.

Like me.

I had one follow me for about 10 miles along side my motorcycle in the desert. It knew I was aware of it.
It reacted to my thoughts. It was no threat. It was just interested for some reason.
We drove together UNTIL I decided to pull over and take a picture.
It whisked away.

The game was over.

It was beautiful. Vivid colors I've never seen before. I wanted it to return.
It signaled one more time about 8 miles away.
I wish I could see it again.
It was magnificent.

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THIS IS WHY!

DONT YOU ALL LISTEN?!

THIS IS WHY OMG!

I do. You don't even believe in the Bible, just man-made doctrines and a specific set of verses not even comprising a tenth of the Bible. Your sola scriptura version in false, your faith alone doctrine is false and not even close to what for example Luther believed in. And your trinity doctrine is false too.

He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 1 John 2:4

How will Jesus seperate the goats from the sheep? According to works or faith? (Let me guess: you will conveniently ignore this question and focus lesser points and likely resort to ad hominem.)

For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. Ephesians 2:10

Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Matthew 7:19

But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? James 2:20

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No you do not, you have admitted that you do not believe the new testament, take your lies elsewhere.

It is well known Muslims are allowed to lie to further their faith, i am starting to believe you might be one, you do after all support them, do you not?

I believe you were defending them not long ago.

So why don't you just confess your sins so you can be righteous instead of unrighteous?

Ezekiel 18:24 But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die.


You should get your story straight and probably shouldn't go around preaching/teaching and bringing other people down with you.

Defending? You mean I wasn't screaming for blood and genocide like a true GLP Christian™? The goats and the sheep? Separated according to faith or deeds?

Notice how I never stray from subject unlike you. Or ignore certain verses or argument when disputing a biblical matter. That's what abiding in the truth looks like.

Matthew 25:31-46King James Version (KJV)

31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:

32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:

33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:

36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.

37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?

38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?

39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?

40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:

43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.

44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?

45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.

46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life

What? That is what i said, if we confess our sins Christ will forgive us. We become covered in his righteousness.

But the verse shows if we say we have no sin then we decieve ourselves, if we say we have not sinned we call Jesus a liar.

The scripture is fine, your understanding of it however is severely flawed.

Are you an idiot? We have been through this countless times, i have proven my point to you but you just cannot let it go.

You are like a little child throwing a temper tantrum, grow up.

Don't beat yourself up. It's hard to understand something you haven't experienced sometimes. :)

Welcome to the world of seeing something inexplicable.

Temper tantrum? I'm very calm and collected I assure you. Why don't you jog my memory: the sheep and the goats, according to deeds or faith?

What happens to the barren branches?

What are the good works prepared for the elected to do?

What is the fruit of the spirit?

Why is faith without work dead?

Only he the does the will of the Father will enter the kingdom; what is the will of the Father? (It should be evident throughout the Bible.)

What does James say is the only religion pure and faultless to the Father? (James 1:27)

What does Matthew 5:16 mean? (Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.)

What does Matthew 22:14 mean?

What does Matthew 7:14 mean?

Matthew 5:20?:
For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, even they both are abomination to the LORD. Proverbs 17:15

The sheep and the goats? Faith or works? Just give me one straight answer.

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No you are not, if you were you would not be doing a search to find out where i am posting. Then bringing up old battles you have lost.

You are simply acting like a spoiled child throwing a temper tantrum.

I haven't lost a single 'battle' to you. Still avoiding the actual arguments as you always do. And there's the ad hominem to as expected. It's your soul I'm trying to save, you're just to stubborn to reason with. That's the real battle.

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Awesome Showgirls! This is a blessing that God has allowed only you to see. I find it thought compelling that your boyfriend/husband turned and missed it by a split second. That was for you and you alone honey! He is showing you the way things really are. Your spiritual armour will tell you what you need to know about good or bad and what they are.

I saw one of my most memorable ones last year. It was the one that basically forced me to realize that things I have been seeing over the years I should no longer just dismiss but think upon them. You won't be able to make anyone believe you that doesn't want to or hasn't seen for themselves. But He is teaching you right now and will keep opening your eyes. Nothing will be more than you can handle but He will show you His ways. If you can keep from wavering and allowing fear to come in what He will show you will be magnificent.

Wait until the GIGANTIC BLACK ISOSCELES TRIANGLE SILENT STARSHIP floats over your house at 10kph and then accelerates to light speed in an instant.

Seen it here... me and the better half and a neighbor all at the same time. WTF?

See, i knew you would break.



Truth hurts.

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Break? Are you well? Good luck with your get out of jail free free card.

I believe u. I think I've seen a couple over the last 5 yrs. Even the other night I think I saw one. I couldn't sleep and it was around 3:30am and I was looking up at my skylight that is directly over my bed. The sky was so clear and there were so many stars and all of a sudden this blinking light flies past in the skylight from right to left and then about a minute later it came back from left to right. I was thinking WTF, that was really weird and I just figured it was a UFO and then I rolled over and tried to go back to sleep. I've always believed in this stuff, so for me, I don't think it's a big deal unless I actually saw an alien, then I would absolutely freak the fuk out!!!

I found these for you ShowGirl. One from June, another from July. Anything like what you saw?

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Welcome to the ranks...

I am not sure the mind was ever capable of coping with the human condition...human condition meaning anything and everything a human might be exposed too.

If you never believed before tonight and now find yourself believing, then consider your experience tonight to be a gift. Do not chase the experience, rather meditate upon the one you were given...consider it validation of the thoughts and feelings that have brought you to a forum such as this, and realize that none of us are in control.

We are spectators who have front row seats to the most epic war in the history of all creation. None of the things we are witnessing are about us. We are irrelevant to them and yes...there are always casualties but the significance of you to them is the same as the fly you swatted or the spider you squished. Our world here is nothing more than an ant colony and one day our little hill will be devastated by the proverbial lawn mower. Not necessarily out of intent but out of inevitability. What you witnessed tonight was your own first step toward the answers you seek. They will find you. You just have to let them.

OP it's called delusion.

You wanted to see that UFO, so you did, but it only happened in your own mind.

Sorry.