Waking dreams - How to stay conscious while sleeping, control your dreams, and be aware.

Best books are:

Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming by Stephen LaBerge
Astral Dynamics by Robert Bruce
Conscious Dreaming by Robert Moss
The Inner Guide Meditation by Edwin Steinbrecher

Get all those, practice them, and become a master of your Mind, Soul and Being.

Thank you very much

Are these techniques any useful for those that can naturally tell if they're dreaming or not but once they realize that, they suddenly force themselves up?

I had only two lucid dreams in my life in which I stayed without forcing myself up but ever since those two, no matter if it's a good dream or not, once I know I'm dreaming I force myself up for no reason, any tip?

Yes, practice makes master, so just get started, make all the exercises and steps of this program a daily habit and soon you will become a master of the dream worlds and beyond. Just be dedicated and persistent, expect results, and be enthusiastic and excited about the awaiting adventures out there.

What have you experienced so far?

Anyone here trying out this program yet??

Im very curious to hear some feedback!

Indeed I can!

Astral Dynamics by Robert Bruce
Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming by Stephen LaBerge
The Inner Guide Meditation by Edwin Steinbrecher

Get those, its the ones of any book on the topics you could ever need. They have been my favorites for years, and I studied and read and practiced a lot.

Find them on Amazon

Of course, you realize what the next step is; awakening to the Dream of Life.

"This Awakeness is not about someone having experiences, states of mind, or knowledge, but about seeing that there is no separate someone. It is about the undivided essence that is aware of – and appears as – this whole universe, including the idea of a character that wants to have the experience of awakening."

Hartong - Awakening to the Dream

Any questions or feedback on this?

Well let me know if you are interested in this, tried it out, got some experience, tips and ideas to share

No one trying this out yet?

I will give it a serious try soon..

(NOTE: This new book I am working on, and giving out for free here, may be of the interest of you, as its on the same topic discussed here. Check its own thread here: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] )

Sounds like great stuff!

I bought a copy of this [link to www.amazon.co.uk]

a few years ago, but although I have been V close to lucid on a couple of occasions, I've lost IT at the last moment.

I have though managed to FLY in dreams in the last few years... and also, I once actually smelled perfume in a dream, which was V unusual

TCF

Its an excellent book. You can try my method as explained here, but I also strongly recommend you follow the book and practice every single step frequently and also read over it regularly. Even reading about lucid dreaming can induce spontant and automatic lucid dreams. The more you practice and the more involved you are the better results..

Hey OP..glad you are still looking at this thread, as I have a few questions about lucid dreaming and astral projection.

I've been meditating now for about 2 years or so...I've had some pretty kewl lucid dreams as well, but have never been able to astral project or OOBE. Can you give some pointers on the difference between the two and how to get from one state to another?

When I meditate I am getting better at 'zoning out' or what I call getting to the zero point... and a few times I've been watching the hypnogogic scenery turn into an actual dream and just slide into it that way...other times I wake into the dream.

My theory is the hypnogogic imagery, even if faint or ghostly, are actually dream material that you just haven't tuned into enough. I say this because I've been in lucid dreams where I end up loosing it and the dream fades into hypnogogic blobs and then just fades away.

In the past few weeks I've had probably 5 or 6 now, so it's picking up a bit.

But, can't seem to get a bead on how to astral project.

I can get to a state of almost complete numbness with my body...feel tingles, vibrations and 'electric surges'...but I can't seem to get to the point of actually leaving my body.

I have thought a few times that if I stayed in the zone just a bit longer that I wasn't sure where my mind would end up as the electrical 'charge' seemed it would pop my head off or something...so maybe my technique is not correct. My most used technique is staring at the back of my eyelids until it turns into a 3d surrounding, then colors, electrical arc's, spirals, worm holes and many times actually scenery or images that I can maintain for a few minutes until I mess it all up.

I don't have time at the moment to read your book, but I will...but do you have a technique or two to share with regards to this?

Thanks a bunch!

OK thats a lot so let me try address each point you mention..

First, difference between Out of Body Experience and Lucid Dreaming: In an Out of Body Experience you are fully out and active in the COLLECTIVE conscious constructs and levels of reality and existence, in its different levels and planes - while in a Lucid Dream you are in your own PERSONAL construct or plane of reality, made up by your thoughts, ideas, beliefs, fears, lusts, desires, wishes, and so on - though a Lucid dream can be connected with "true spirit worlds" at the same time, its more of a mix, as an example you may be in a world of your own creation, yet at the same time in that world you may meet actual other real spiritual entities.

However, from a Lucid Dream, its very easy to astral project into a REAL out of body experiece. Just WILL and INTEND yourself to be OUT of your body and in some other remote location. It can be anywhere, out in your neighbourhood, some other country, some other planet, the future or the past. Just imagine yourself floating truly freely out of your Mind and Body into the Collective Astral Planes that are fixed and in place and there as their own worlds, dimensions and planes of existence.

There are many layers and levels to this, higher and lower, positive and negative, etc. You can meet spirit guides who can help. In fact, get the books Astral Dynamics by Robert Bruce, Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming by Stephen LaBerge, and The Inner Guide Meditation by Edwin Steinberger and you got all the tools you need to both understand and explore those different states of existence, your personal and the collective, meet other entities, spirit guides, archetypes, etc.

The hypnagogic state is indeed the "gateway" between this world and the dream world. In a sense, you are looking into the astral planes at this point, and can use that state for both lucid dreaming and actual astral projection.

Practice the exercises in this very thread daily for a while for now and you will become better at both lucid dreaming and astral projection, and do get the 3 books above I told you about, read them and practice them, and you will become a master of your mind and spirit - it is worth it, trust me, I have been doing this for over 20 years now.

OP, is your free book no longer available here? Looks like it's been removed. :-(

EAT CHEESE

i'm not OP, but i have read it recently .. tried to look on interent, but couldn't find it.

search Spamtron_of_the_planet_douchebaggia

just search around on the internet:

"earth a spiritual trap" is title of the book

DON'T eat cheese

Having enough sleep seems to be key. I don't actively do any practices to engage in lucidity . Lucidity came to me, fast and heavy, before I even knew what the term or concept was. However, as I have gotten older the natural tendency to become lucid has waned and have not experienced very many lucid dreams in the recent years.
I have noticed that two things seem to be key I becoming lucid and the first is having had an abundance of sleep....more than enough and never from a state of sleep deprivation.
The second is visualization. Basically allowing the mind to wander and observe images before sleeping and keeping that pesky inner voice silenced.

nice collection of tips :)
it's a special thing to experience and explore

Yeah the powers that be pulled down my site..

But I got it back up on a foreign server.. try the new link in my signature.

Which is this one: [link to www.ebax.si]