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Sept IRS Update: 1. IRS Email Exchange Server to be Audited. 2. Louis Lerner destroyed her Blackberry in June 2012, 3. More Lost Emails!!!!!!

 
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someone finally woke up on Capitol Hill, as anybody who has basic knowledge on how the internet works realizes emails have through a server. Well deleting them from your inbox does not necessarily mean the emails are gone, and my industry even if I delete the email from the server via my inbox the systems administrator has rules on his in meaning the email just disappears for my inbox what is stored segregation did which could be pulled via an audit or a warrant.
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violin GOP lawmaker says hundreds of server drives could still contain missing IRS emails
A Republican congressman said Friday that, despite IRS claims that lost emails from embattled ex-official Lois Lerner could not be recovered, hundreds of server drives “exist and could contain” the missing messages.

Lawmakers want to round up all of Lerner’s emails during the time period when she ran a unit accused of singling out conservative groups for special scrutiny as they applied for tax-exempt status. They have sharply questioned the agency after it claimed over the summer to have lost a chunk of those emails due to a computer crash.

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Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, said Friday in a letter to IRS Commissioner John Koskinen that he’s learned the IRS has yet to search a trove of server drives – and claimed they “could be a potential source for the destroyed e-mails sent or received by Ms. Lerner.”

The letter said staff on the House oversight committee learned the information on a conference call a day earlier with the office of the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration (TIGTA). Jordan said the office has “identified 760 IRS exchange server drives” from the relevant time period that could still contain the missing documents.

“According to TIGTA, the IRS did not search these sources for Ms. Lerner’s e-mails during its process of producing documents to Congress because the IRS was not aware that the exchange servers even existed,” Jordan wrote. “According to TIGTA, the IRS was under the mistaken belief that the exchange servers had been destroyed in 2012 until TIGTA’s review of IRS records indicated that the servers had not been destroyed due to budgetary constraints.”

In the letter, Jordan also confirmed that Koskinen has agreed to testify at a House hearing set for Sept. 17.

He suggested the commissioner would be pressed on the latest revelations, claiming the new information “conflicts with” prior IRS claims that Lerner’s email cannot be retrieved. He noted the commissioner testified in June that “backup tapes” from 2011 no longer exist because they were “recycled.”

The IRS for weeks has been battling Republican criticism over the missing emails, but insists that they were not recoverable and the agency is doing what it can to provide email messages that are. The agency has provided Congress with tens of thousands of emails to date, to and from Lerner.

Meanwhile, new congressional reports were released on the IRS controversy.

A Democratic report, released by Sen. Carl Levin of Michigan, said both liberal and conservative groups were mistreated as the IRS screened applications from political groups during the 2010 and 2012 elections, revealing no political bias by the IRS.

"The investigation found that the IRS used inappropriate selection criteria, burdensome questions and lengthy delays in processing applications for 501(c)(4) tax exempt status from both conservative and liberal groups," Levin said in a statement.

But a Republican report, issued by Sen. John McCain of Arizona, said conservative groups were clearly treated worse.

"The majority's interpretation of the evidence fails to capture the extent of the IRS's bias against conservative groups and flagrant abuse of power," McCain said in a statement. "Our tax system should not and cannot be used as a weapon to target political opponents, as the IRS has clearly done."

The IRS inspector general set off a firestorm last year with an audit that said IRS agents singled out Tea Party and other conservative groups for inappropriate scrutiny when they applied for tax-exempt status.

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I've been saying this from day one. The second they said they deleted the emails who are the server the hard drive crashed I kept saying they're stored on a server somewhere. I think that somehow this will. Back to the White House, just my humble opinion
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Oh yeah, they were on our servers but unfortunately our servers crashed too. in fact, only the servers with said emails caught fire and are completely destroyed. Sorry
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i know for technical reasons finding exchange server hd's is useless.

because unless you know the sid's etc, its worthless.
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how is the world would you say it's useless, you obviously have no experience with Microsoft Exchange email servers. And if you think the IRS or Lois Lerner controls them you are dead wrong
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The IT Rackets in Washington are run by Companies, or shell Companies or Subsidiaries of dual-citizen Israeli Jews.

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sniff sniff ... smells like distraction
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At some point this bitch needs to be cuffed!

IRS lawyer: Lois Lerner's BlackBerry deliberately destroyed after start of congressional probe
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Lois Lerner’s BlackBerry was intentionally destroyed after Congress had begun its probe into IRS targeting of conservative groups, a senior IRS lawyer acknowledged in a sworn declaration.

Thomas Kane, Deputy Assistant Chief Counsel for the IRS, wrote in the declaration, part of a lawsuit filed by Judicial Watch against the IRS, that the BlackBerry was "removed or wiped clean of any sensitive or proprietary information and removed as scrap for disposal in June 2012."
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That date - June 2012 - is significant because by that time, ex-IRS official Lerner had already been summoned before congressional staffers who interviewed her about reports of the IRS' targeting of conservative groups.

"We had already talked to her. Our personal staff and Oversight Committee staff had sat down with Ms. Lerner and confronted her about information we were getting from conservative groups in the state of Ohio and around the country," Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, told Fox News.

"If you intentionally destroy evidence, that is a crime. If you make a statement in court saying the evidence is not available and it is, that is also a crime," said Jay Sekulow, Chief Counsel for the American Center for Law and Justice.

The IRS did not immediately respond to Fox News’ request for comment.

News of the BlackBerry's destruction followed Monday’s statement by Judicial Watch that Justice Department attorneys said in a Friday phone call the federal government backs up all computer records to ensure continuity of government in event of a catastrophe, but retrieving the Lerner emails would simply be "too onerous."

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I don't care what they say I owe them. I ain't paying them one red fucking cent.
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today was a big day for IRS updates here's number 3 for the day

IRS says it has lost emails from 5 other employees related to probes

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The IRS said Friday that it has lost emails from five other employees involved in congressional probes into the agency's targeting of conservative groups, leading one top Republican to declare "this pattern must stop."

The announcement comes after the agency said in June that it could not locate an untold number of emails to and from Lois Lerner, who headed the IRS division that processes applications for tax-exempt status. The revelation set off a new round of investigations and congressional hearings.

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On Friday, the IRS issued a report to Congress saying the agency also lost emails from five other employees related to the probe, including two agents who worked in a Cincinnati office processing applications for tax-exempt status.

House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Darrell Issa, whose committee has been investigating the scandal, said the disclosure is yet another example of the Obama administration changing its story on the scandal.

"The IRS’s ever-changing story is practically impossible to follow at this point, as they modify it each time to accommodate new facts," Issa, R-Calif., said. "This pattern must stop."

The disclosure came on the same day the Senate's subcommittee on investigations released competing reports on how the IRS handled applications from political groups during the 2010 and 2012 elections.

The Democratic report, released by Sen. Carl Levin of Michigan, said both liberal and conservative groups were mistreated, revealing no political bias by the IRS. The Republican report, issued by Sen. John McCain of Arizona, said conservative groups were clearly treated worse.

The IRS inspector general set off a firestorm last year with an audit that said IRS agents singled out Tea Party and other conservative groups for inappropriate scrutiny when they applied for tax-exempt status.

Lerner's lost emails prompted a new round of scrutiny by Congress, the Justice Department, the inspector general and at least two federal judges.

The IRS blamed computer crashes for all the lost emails. In a statement, the IRS said all the crashes happened well before Congress launched the investigations.

"Throughout this review, the IRS has found no evidence that any IRS personnel deliberately destroyed any evidence," said the IRS statement. "To the contrary, the computer issues identified appear to be the same sorts of issues routinely experienced by employees within the IRS, in other government agencies and in the private sector."

When Congress started investigating the IRS last year, the agency identified 82 employees who might have documents related to the inquiries. The IRS said 18 of those people had computer problems between September 2009 and February 2014. Of those employees, five probably lost emails -- in addition to Lerner -- the agency said Friday.

Lerner, who was placed on leave and has since retired, has emerged as a central figure in congressional investigations. The other five employees appear to be more junior than she.

In addition to the Cincinnati workers, they include a technical adviser to Lerner, a tax law specialist and a group manager in the tax-exempt division.

In general, the IRS said the workers archived emails on their computer hard drives when their email accounts became too full. When those computers crashed, the emails were lost.

"By all accounts, in each instance the user contacted IT staff and attempted to recover his or her data," said the IRS statement.

The IRS has said it stored emails on backup tapes but those tapes were re-used every six months. The inspector general's office is reviewing those tapes to see if any old emails can be retrieved.

Friday's reports by the Senate subcommittee on investigations mark the conclusion of just one investigation. The Justice Department and three other congressional committees are continuing their probes.

Levin is chairman of the investigations subcommittee and McCain is the ranking Republican. Their staffs routinely work together on investigations, and while they don't always agree on the results, it is highly unusual for them to issue such diverging reports.

"The investigation found that the IRS used inappropriate selection criteria, burdensome questions and lengthy delays in processing applications for 501(c)(4) tax exempt status from both conservative and liberal groups," Levin said in a statement.

The Democratic report slams last year's audit by the IRS inspector general. It says the IG report was incomplete because it focused only on the treatment of conservative groups. The IG's report "produced distorted audit results that continue to be misinterpreted," the Democratic report said.

The inspector general's office declined to comment Friday. A spokeswoman said they were reviewing the report.

The Republican report says far more conservative groups were singled out for extra scrutiny. They were also asked more questions and were more likely to have their applications rejected or withdrawn.

"The IRS selected conservative groups out of normal processing, placed them on a separate list, stopped work on their applications completely, forced them to answer intrusive questions about their behavior and demeanor at meetings and delayed their applications for multiple years," the Republican report said. "Our investigation has uncovered no evidence that liberal groups received the same expansive inappropriate treatment that conservative groups received."

The Democratic report said investigators reviewed 800,000 pages of documents and conducted 22 interviews with current and former workers at the IRS and the inspector general's office. The investigators, however, were not allowed to see confidential taxpayer information, so many of the documents were blacked out.
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To say nothing at all about all the copies the NSA has.
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hey guys I'm trying to leave a solid update this month of all the breaking news that comes out on the IRS. I have been following it really closely. i really think that this is going to be the straw that breaks president obamas back. I dont think it will happen overnight, maybe even after he leaves office (which would be better because then he cant pardon Lerner and Holder wont be AG, heads could roll and they could grant lerner amunity and Obama will be in cuffs)

I would like to have a serious discussion on here like the good old daystopic obviously in the past few days a ton of news has came out and is really painting the picture grim for the Democratic Party
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There will be a full investigation and not much will be found.
But lessons will be learnt.
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Oh yeah, they were on our servers but unfortunately our servers crashed too. in fact, only the servers with said emails caught fire and are completely destroyed. Sorry
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And then we salted the ashes.

Yeah, sorry.

However, we have all your tax records and debts dating back to 1914.
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There will be a full investigation and not much will be found.
But lessons will be learnt.
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Yes, lessons like "I want all servers purged of internal email automatically from now on".
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To say nothing at all about all the copies the NSA has.
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Glenn Beck said this a few months ago.

"You want the IRS emails? Go get them from the NSA!"
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Bump for importance
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I've been saying this from day one. The second they said they deleted the emails who are the server the hard drive crashed I kept saying they're stored on a server somewhere. I think that somehow this will. Back to the White House, just my humble opinion
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