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Obama Delays Amnesty - Not Good...Something is Up. Latino Leaders Go Loco!

 
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President Barack Obama's decision to back down from his promises to take executive action on immigration reform until after the November midterm election could backfire on him, said Latino leaders Saturday, who vowed they won't forget the president and Democrats' "attempts to fool them" when the elections roll around.

Early Saturday, Obama bowed to Democratic Party pressure and reversed course on taking executive action on immigration reform until after the November midterm elections, after leaders voiced concerns that his rulings could cost Democrats their control of the Senate.

Back in June, Obama had promised during a high-profile Rose Garden appearance that he would announce unilateral measures by summer's end if Congress did not enact reform legislation.

But while the White House blamed his reversal on "Republicans' extreme politicization of the issue," Latino groups blamed him and his fellow Democrats, reports The Hill.

"To wait nine more weeks means that I must again look my mother in the eye and see the fear she has about living under the threat of deportation every day," said Cristina Jimenez, director of the advocacy group United We Dream. "But Dreamers will not soon forget the president and Democrats' latest failure and their attempts to fool the Latino community, and we remain resolute in fighting for justice for our families."



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The reason I say this is that everything he does is calculated based on political positioning, polling and trying to gauge how this will impact his agenda.

It is just to quick and simple to assume that he thinks the backlash from doing this would all but guarantee the Senate would go red. There is more hear as always to the story. By pissing off all the groups and not allowing amnesty for 5 million as he promised, something much bigger is coming...
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Sad that the Mexicans believed him. Oh well.
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Well, they'll all rally behind him if amnesty comes anyway. By 2016, they will have completely forgotten it.

I think the dems are going red in November regardless. People are getting fed up.
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It's called a fucking CONSTITUTION that's in his way.

The fuck is not the KING.
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Sad that the Mexicans believed him. Oh well.
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Mexicans haven't figured out that he is a liar, like the US population.
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It's called a fucking CONSTITUTION that's in his way.

The fuck is not the KING.
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No he could do it on his own, through executive action, he could do it. This is a very strange change of course. I am telling you there is much more here. He has promised this for months, and Reid and others have said it will happen.

Not sure why this makes me even more concerned about 9/11 as well as what happens tomorrow when that book comes out. This pure politics. They must know something is up, I think Benghazi is about to become a very hot topic.
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It's called a fucking CONSTITUTION that's in his way.

The fuck is not the KING.
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No he could do it on his own, through executive action, he could do it. This is a very strange change of course. I am telling you there is much more here. He has promised this for months, and Reid and others have said it will happen.

Not sure why this makes me even more concerned about 9/11 as well as what happens tomorrow when that book comes out. This pure politics. They must know something is up, I think Benghazi is about to become a very hot topic.
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I tell ya, when a terrorist comes across the Rio Grande and blows up Houston with a nuke... then every DEMOCRAT - the party that opened the door to the foxes - will be taken out and made comfortable at room temperature. I suspect you could count on that.

The fuhrer would be wise to close the door and tell you all to go piss up a rope.
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What book is coming out tomorrow?
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It's called a fucking CONSTITUTION that's in his way.

The fuck is not the KING.
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No he could do it on his own, through executive action, he could do it. This is a very strange change of course. I am telling you there is much more here. He has promised this for months, and Reid and others have said it will happen.

Not sure why this makes me even more concerned about 9/11 as well as what happens tomorrow when that book comes out. This pure politics. They must know something is up, I think Benghazi is about to become a very hot topic.
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Listen up, dumbass.

There is nothing in the Constitution about "Executive Order" bullshit... certain nothing about "Executive action" or whatever else you want to call it.

He grants amnesty and he is immediately committing monsterous treason and will be arrested.
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It's called a fucking CONSTITUTION that's in his way.

The fuck is not the KING.
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No he could do it on his own, through executive action, he could do it. This is a very strange change of course. I am telling you there is much more here. He has promised this for months, and Reid and others have said it will happen.

Not sure why this makes me even more concerned about 9/11 as well as what happens tomorrow when that book comes out. This pure politics. They must know something is up, I think Benghazi is about to become a very hot topic.
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Listen up, dumbass.

There is nothing in the Constitution about "Executive Order" bullshit... certain nothing about "Executive action" or whatever else you want to call it.

He grants amnesty and he is immediately committing monsterous treason and will be arrested.
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Calm down. He has violated the constitution dozens of times. You really think had he done an executive order on amnesty he would be found guilty for treason.

Double dumb ass on you.
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its already 'tomorrow' here. cant wait to find out what all the fuss is about. the fella (I think an ex-general, yeh?) mentioned mh370 in that little statement too. veeeerrrry interesting stuff. now he got us all hyped about it, im kinda thinking it'll probably turn out a kinda 'doom off' situation. good way to promote a new book i guess.


As to OP topic, Im guessing the decision to delay is politically motivated in regards to electoral success, but then why are politicians so short sighted like that? he knew when the elections would be on ... why plan controversial policy changes for a time that could risk the election? I cant believe none of the whitehouse PR staff had any foresight in this before now? Nine weeks to go? noone realised this PR uncertainty months ago?

So maybe he did, and is, lying to the latino leaders about the entire thing. But why make such a promise in the first place if there is never an intention to follow thru? btw Im actually not against immigration, but amnesty for 5 million all at once? Im aghast that the idea is even being considered. Just wondering, are these 5 million ppl who have been in America for many years and are kinda 'permanent residents' .... or does it include anyone thats in the country when the bill passes, no matter how long or short their time has been in America?
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He plans to do it after the election. Right now there are too many nervous democrats. Democrats have chosen minorities over white people, but there are not yet enough minorities to help them in 2014 so they will wait awhile longer.
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If people know he's GOING to do it in November, why won't that affect elections ANYWAY?
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He plans to do it after the election. Right now there are too many nervous democrats. Democrats have chosen minorities over white people, but there are not yet enough minorities to help them in 2014 so they will wait awhile longer.
 Quoting: davvi

Publicly changing the timeline should, theoretically, alert the public to it.

Really, the backlash should be happening now, or two months ago, but we all know middle America just doesn't pay attention.

So, now it's not immediate votes that they're after, but they could still be looking ahead to 2016.

I'm reminded of a recent thread on DHS and ICE's joint plans for mass deportation.

Thread: Official DHS "Operation ENDGAME": Detention and Removal Strategy for a Secure Homeland (DHS/ICE docs included)

Could opening the borders, inviting them all in be a move for exposing existing illegals and mass deportation? FEMA camps as interim holding facilities?

Look how brazenly these "Dreamers" are exposing themselves, protesting, speaking publicly...all convinced that they are safe because Zero simply said so.

It's getting harder to see just what the hell the long play is here.
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[link to www.newsmax.com]

President Barack Obama's decision to back down from his promises to take executive action on immigration reform until after the November midterm election could backfire on him, said Latino leaders Saturday, who vowed they won't forget the president and Democrats' "attempts to fool them" when the elections roll around.

Early Saturday, Obama bowed to Democratic Party pressure and reversed course on taking executive action on immigration reform until after the November midterm elections, after leaders voiced concerns that his rulings could cost Democrats their control of the Senate.

Back in June, Obama had promised during a high-profile Rose Garden appearance that he would announce unilateral measures by summer's end if Congress did not enact reform legislation.

But while the White House blamed his reversal on "Republicans' extreme politicization of the issue," Latino groups blamed him and his fellow Democrats, reports The Hill.

"To wait nine more weeks means that I must again look my mother in the eye and see the fear she has about living under the threat of deportation every day," said Cristina Jimenez, director of the advocacy group United We Dream. "But Dreamers will not soon forget the president and Democrats' latest failure and their attempts to fool the Latino community, and we remain resolute in fighting for justice for our families."



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The reason I say this is that everything he does is calculated based on political positioning, polling and trying to gauge how this will impact his agenda.

It is just to quick and simple to assume that he thinks the backlash from doing this would all but guarantee the Senate would go red. There is more hear as always to the story. By pissing off all the groups and not allowing amnesty for 5 million as he promised, something much bigger is coming...
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5 million ???? You've got to be kidding!! There's AT LEAST 60 MILLION illegals here; more likely closer to 200 MILLION.


The govt has kept saying 12 million since 2006 hoping nobody would notice, and the media has been perpetuating these lies..
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One reason for the delay....


Republicans lashed out at President Obama’s decision to delay an immigration executive order until after midterm elections, saying the move is proof that what is coming will be drastic.

“Once again, President Obama is playing political games to protect his liberal friends in November by using sleight of hand to temporarily hide his radical agenda from the American people,”

House Majority Whip Steve Scalise (R-La.) said. “The president needs to abandon his attempt to issue blanket amnesty by executive order, and instead focus on securing the border as the House already did.”


[link to pjmedia.com]

Last Edited by ~kpm~ on 09/06/2014 07:29 PM
~With forethought and malice Whitless enacted an EO giving nursing homes immunity from wrongful death prosecutions, forced them to take in infected patients and is responsible for over 6500+ nursing home deaths~
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If people know he's GOING to do it in November, why won't that affect elections ANYWAY?
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Good question. I think this is a big issue.

Politically it seems like a stupid move to me. He is making it obvious that he's playing politics with the issue. In short he is saying "I don't give a shit about you immigrants, it is just your votes that I care about". Shit, if I were them I'd be pissed too.

I looks like the big dick is screwed no matter what he does - or doesn't do.

I'm guessing *somebody* told him not to do it.
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Cut the boy some slack. He's: over stressed; a druggie;

a homo; lives with a transvestite; and is moving

to California because Chicago

is way to dangerous, and an

illegal alien waiting for

amnesty.
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What book is coming out tomorrow?
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Something "The General" cooked up for us.

It is supposed to be a surprise. 5a
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Looks like "good news is no news" around here.





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