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Astral Projection...have you? Questions about an astral projection "mental block" also...

 
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I've been studying the art and science of astral projection for years. I've never been able to do it "on command" using any of the hundreds of varied techniques described and taught in numerous books and websites. I've been able to separate parts of my body on command, but that's it. I used to be able to "vibrate" my body a few years ago, at first using meditative techniques, and eventually "on command," to begin astral projection (when I was able to consistently separate parts of my body), but for some reason, for the past two years, I can't even do that anymore. It's like there's some kind of mental block or something. I've tried all the old methods, visualization, etc., and even tried some of my own to no avail.

I have only fully astral projected twice, but not on command. Occasionally, I suffer from bouts of sleep paralysis, they started when I was 15. They used to frighten the hell out of me, but when I started studying astral projection, the sleep paralysis intrigued me. My only two true astral projections occurred when I awoke in a sleep paralysis state: I would realize what was happening, and was able to immediately separate my astral self and "travel" around... The first time I was able to go to my dad's living room, and I saw him watching a football game and yelling obscenities and certain phrases at the TV. The next day I asked him about it, repeating to him what I heard and saw and he was in awe with my accuracy even though I "wasn't there" physically...anyway...Like I said it's only happened twice and only during a sleep paralysis episode...

So I'm just curious if anyone has any tips or suggestions for me to be able to project on command? I also want to know why I can no longer even get to the "vibration" point anymore! Any thoughts appreciated!
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Try this simple technique. Get a 108-bead mala (prayer beads). Lay in bed and repeat the affirmation "Now I'm out of body." Keep repeating it with some faith. Every time you say it (mentally or aloud is fine) turn one bead.

The mala will help you stay focused enough to continue repeating the affirmation until you feel the effects. You should start experiencing a vibratory state. You can stop with the mala and continue repeating your affirmation.

"Now I'm out of body"
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You can stop with the mala and continue repeating your affirmation.

"Now I'm out of body"
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What I mean is that once you are in the vibratory state you don't need to continue turning the beads. Just continue with the affirmation.
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I think due to changes in development spontaneous projection becomes more rare in many people after a certain age. I would try the mala technique. I used to get sleep paralysis all the time as well and this is one thing I know can help bring back the vibratory states you used to experience.
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The mala also helps you from falling asleep. It's easy to doze off if you lay in bed repeating an affirmation without anything to else to focus on. The mala keeps you on task. You can use it for other affirmations and mantras as well. It's a simple yet effective tool.
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33144679 - are you making a connection with astral projection and sleep paralysis? If so, would you expand on that?

I've experienced both, sleep paralysis is scary. I've been told by a gifted psychic that the sense of helplessness is a loved one (in spirit) trying to get your attention. Personally that does not "fit" with me. I believe what is going on is that as you return to your body there may be demons there trying to sabotage the re-connect. The last time I experienced sleep paralysis I visualized punching the "demon" in the head and instantly I was free. Shaken but free.
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33144679 - are you making a connection with astral projection and sleep paralysis? If so, would you expand on that?

I've experienced both, sleep paralysis is scary. I've been told by a gifted psychic that the sense of helplessness is a loved one (in spirit) trying to get your attention. Personally that does not "fit" with me. I believe what is going on is that as you return to your body there may be demons there trying to sabotage the re-connect. The last time I experienced sleep paralysis I visualized punching the "demon" in the head and instantly I was free. Shaken but free.
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Almost every time I experience sleep paralysis I have also experienced the vibrations which precede out of body travel. So yes, I believe they are connected, in my case anyway.
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Not sure what that has to do with the topic. Do you think out of body travel is Satanic/demonic?
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OP, I won't be a 'know-it-all'...I promise...but may I ask how long you have been on GLP?

I promise I will be honest with you...but reveal info you wouldn't want revealed on here.

If you don't require my help just disregard my post :)
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You should read Tom Campbells book called The Big TOE (Theory of everything) you should read it so you could reflect on what is happening to you with his experience because he was blocked from getting out of his body for years...and if i remember correctly it was because they wanted him to stay balanced in this world...and be reintroduce to it later on in his life rather than all at once because they said he might stray away from the norm. So they blocked him from getting to that state for years. Hmm just throwing this out there.
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Regarding the mental block. Just reflect on the sensory stimuli that you have downloaded through your senses for the past few years. TV programs us for limitation. There might be some hidden beliefs that prevent you from doing this.

Check the Seth Material as it has some great stepping stones that might help you identify limiting hiding beliefs.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Some tips. You may try some technology like hemi-sync, binaural beats, or ELF googles.


There are other products but analog is the way to go.


* Not everyone is who they claim to be in the Astral plane.
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Re: Astral Projection...have you? Questions about an astral projection "mental block" also...
Thanks everyone for all the great info and advice... To answer some questions...
About my sleep paralysis: the first time it happened to me was after a very stressful and traumatic episode when I was 15. When it happened I was terrified, but the next morning I had the logical thought that I had an anxiety attack while asleep...it wasn't till years later I found out it was called "sleep paralysis."
I have seen a "being" while in the paralytic state. Not the first time, but many times after. But I only saw this "being" after reading up on sleep paralysis, and finding out the whole "old hag" story. I came to believe that the "being" I saw was just a manifestation of my own fears because if what I had read... Once I was, more or less, assaulted sexually by this being, but I've still chalked that up to reading about incubi.

Next subject: I've been reading the GLP forums for years off and on, but only recently became a "member" an have contributed and started threads and commented.

I was so happy to see tonite when I got home and was able to go online that so many had something to say on this subject, and it was all constructive... I'm going to try the mala beads, and I'm going to find that book. Tonight I'm going to try, again, to at least bring up my vibrations, but like I said, it's been difficult to impossible to even do that lately. Maybe I'm thinking about it too much...if I can't even get to that point tonight, maybe I'll take a break for a few days/weeks and regroup and try again...

Much love to all my GLPers! Goodnight!
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Regarding the mental block. Just reflect on the sensory stimuli that you have downloaded through your senses for the past few years. TV programs us for limitation. There might be some hidden beliefs that prevent you from doing this.

Check the Seth Material as it has some great stepping stones that might help you identify limiting hiding beliefs.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Some tips. You may try some technology like hemi-sync, binaural beats, or ELF googles.


There are other products but analog is the way to go.


* Not everyone is who they claim to be in the Astral plane.
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I tried binaural beats a few years ago, but I'm glad you reminded me about them...definitely something to try again.... I also wonder if maybe I'm having more trouble with AP now is that I'm 35 and looks like I might be peri-menopausal...hormone changes and all that. Thanks for the suggestions!!!
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33144679 - are you making a connection with astral projection and sleep paralysis? If so, would you expand on that?

I've experienced both, sleep paralysis is scary. I've been told by a gifted psychic that the sense of helplessness is a loved one (in spirit) trying to get your attention. Personally that does not "fit" with me. I believe what is going on is that as you return to your body there may be demons there trying to sabotage the re-connect. The last time I experienced sleep paralysis I visualized punching the "demon" in the head and instantly I was free. Shaken but free.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61510317


Almost every time I experience sleep paralysis I have also experienced the vibrations which precede out of body travel. So yes, I believe they are connected, in my case anyway.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33144679


Concerning my episodes of sleep paralysis...I've come to recognize the "signs" that I'm about to be "sleep paralyzed," if you will,...I can feel my body start to be "stuck," and I usually "hear" a buzzing/whooshing sound in my ears that will distort any natural sounds from my bedroom (fan/TV/etc.) I kind of drift in and out of it for a little bit, and usually, if I want to, I can "pull" myself out of it before I'm paralyzed fully, but it's difficult and takes a lot of "mental strength" to do so.

But once I decided that I wasn't going to let my sleep paralysis episodes scare me anymore, I found myself kind of looking forward to it, to "explore" it, I guess. When I started studying astral projection, I began to wonder if I could "separate" while in the paralysis state, which made me even more eager for an episode.
I am no longer scared of my sleep paralysis episodes because I now know that I'm not the only one it happens to, medical science recognizes it as a condition, so I know I'm not crazy, and I don't fear that it can hurt me... I look at it now as something intriguing and something that I can potentially "project" out of. But I also know that it is something that terrifies a great many people...I do have a suggestion for you though: I've found that if I take two 25mg Benadryl (diphenhydramine HCl, which is also in OTC sleep medications) then I absolutely will not have an episode of sleep paralysis, nor can I reach the vibration state that could lead to a projection. But I've also found that if I take the Benadryl 3 or 4 nights in a row, the next night that I DON'T take it, and the night after that, I am almost guaranteed to have an episode of sleep paralysis...go figure that what helps can also hurt...
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You should read Tom Campbells book called The Big TOE (Theory of everything) you should read it so you could reflect on what is happening to you with his experience because he was blocked from getting out of his body for years...and if i remember correctly it was because they wanted him to stay balanced in this world...and be reintroduce to it later on in his life rather than all at once because they said he might stray away from the norm. So they blocked him from getting to that state for years. Hmm just throwing this out there.
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That makes a lot of sense...the whole balanced thing...when I was able to project thru sleep paralysis and even when I was able to separate parts of my body my life was a complete mess...3 years ago I met the man that I truly believe is my soulmate... Every relationship I've ever had was abusive in one way or another but not this one. In all my past relationships, if I would sit there and think "where will I be in 5 years, 10 years etc, I never saw myself with the person I was with...but the relationship Im in now, I can't ever see myself with anyone BUT him... 3 years and we've never even had a serious argument! I also believe that if I had never been in all those awful relationships, then I wouldn't be able to recognize and appreciate what I have now: a REAL man who is loving, caring and would rather die than see me cry.

Maybe I'm on the path I'm supposed to be on and at this point in my life I have no need to search out things on the astral plane...who knows? But u still WANT to! LOL
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Re: Astral Projection...have you? Questions about an astral projection "mental block" also...
You should read Tom Campbells book called The Big TOE (Theory of everything) you should read it so you could reflect on what is happening to you with his experience because he was blocked from getting out of his body for years...and if i remember correctly it was because they wanted him to stay balanced in this world...and be reintroduce to it later on in his life rather than all at once because they said he might stray away from the norm. So they blocked him from getting to that state for years. Hmm just throwing this out there.
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That makes a lot of sense...the whole balanced thing...when I was able to project thru sleep paralysis and even when I was able to separate parts of my body my life was a complete mess...3 years ago I met the man that I truly believe is my soulmate... Every relationship I've ever had was abusive in one way or another but not this one. In all my past relationships, if I would sit there and think "where will I be in 5 years, 10 years etc, I never saw myself with the person I was with...but the relationship Im in now, I can't ever see myself with anyone BUT him... 3 years and we've never even had a serious argument! I also believe that if I had never been in all those awful relationships, then I wouldn't be able to recognize and appreciate what I have now: a REAL man who is loving, caring and would rather die than see me cry.

Maybe I'm on the path I'm supposed to be on and at this point in my life I have no need to search out things on the astral plane...who knows? But u still WANT to! LOL
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Correction: But I still WANT to! LOL
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The above 5 replies are from me, the OP...I don't know why my user Id #is different...I also keep forgetting to log in before posting! My user ID is Triquetra331
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Re: Astral Projection...have you? Questions about an astral projection "mental block" also...
Hi there! I am getting into the whole astral projection thing myself and I know it to be true but can't pull it off at will so I need to practice. As a child I had two out of body experiences so I know what to aim for. I remember the common denominator of both cases was that I was a child (holding the purity of human spirit) and in a relaxed state. May be you could try DMT or DXM to overcome the mental block, to go beyond the wanting and believing and get to simply SEEING, which is knowing. Or you could decipher the hieroglyphs of the great pyramids (atral projectors) and follow instructions. Good luck!





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