Breaking After 101 Days Turkish hostages held by ISIS have been freed and returned home | |
Gregor Samsa
(OP) User ID: 63052491 Turkey 09/20/2014 06:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Turkey’s 49 hostages freed in MİT operation, says President Erdoğan [link to www.hurriyetdailynews.com] But PM Davudoglu made a contradictory statement, no mention of a MIT operation. In fact another member of the government - who is very close to Erdogan- send a tweet claiming that it was a CIA opretation. To know means to know all. Not to know all means not to know. In order to know all, it is only necessary to know a little. But, in order to know this little, it is first necessary to know pretty much. G.I. Gurdjieff |
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Gregor Samsa
(OP) User ID: 63052491 Turkey 09/20/2014 07:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sooo no more excuse from Turkish government, that Turkey can not be active part of the military operation because ISIS keeps our 49 citizen as hostages, hmmm. To know means to know all. Not to know all means not to know. In order to know all, it is only necessary to know a little. But, in order to know this little, it is first necessary to know pretty much. G.I. Gurdjieff |
Gregor Samsa
(OP) User ID: 63052491 Turkey 09/20/2014 07:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | shameless To know means to know all. Not to know all means not to know. In order to know all, it is only necessary to know a little. But, in order to know this little, it is first necessary to know pretty much. G.I. Gurdjieff |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2562806 United States 09/20/2014 08:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Turkey’s 49 hostages freed in MİT operation, says President Erdoğan Quoting: Gregor Samsa [link to www.hurriyetdailynews.com] But PM Davudoglu made a contradictory statement, no mention of a MIT operation. In fact another member of the government - who is very close to Erdogan- send a tweet claiming that it was a CIA opretation. Just a few days ago Erdogan refused the US' request to use its air bases to stage strikes on ISIS in Syria and Iraq. One if the main reasons cited was that ISIS was holding 49 Turkish hostages. Well now it appears that ISIS was kind enough to eliminate that excuse. Why on earth would any LEGITIMATE terrorist group make a stupid move like that? |
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Gregor Samsa
(OP) User ID: 63052491 Turkey 09/20/2014 08:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Or US, or both ? To know means to know all. Not to know all means not to know. In order to know all, it is only necessary to know a little. But, in order to know this little, it is first necessary to know pretty much. G.I. Gurdjieff |
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Gregor Samsa
(OP) User ID: 63052491 Turkey 09/20/2014 08:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Turkey’s 49 hostages freed in MİT operation, says President Erdoğan Quoting: Gregor Samsa [link to www.hurriyetdailynews.com] But PM Davudoglu made a contradictory statement, no mention of a MIT operation. In fact another member of the government - who is very close to Erdogan- send a tweet claiming that it was a CIA opretation. Just a few days ago Erdoğan refused the US' request to use its air bases to stage strikes on ISIS in Syria and Iraq. One if the main reasons cited was that ISIS was holding 49 Turkish hostages. Well now it appears that ISIS was kind enough to eliminate that excuse. Why on earth would any LEGITIMATE terrorist group make a stupid move like that? Exactly! To know means to know all. Not to know all means not to know. In order to know all, it is only necessary to know a little. But, in order to know this little, it is first necessary to know pretty much. G.I. Gurdjieff |
Gregor Samsa
(OP) User ID: 63052491 Turkey 09/20/2014 08:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Me too bro. Btw. the capturing of 49 consulate personnel so easily was very suspicious event in the first place. Some parliamentarians from opponent parties stated from day 1, that the Erdogan government knew that ISIS would took Mousul. They got the intel beforehand, and they could move the consulate personnel but they didn't even order them to leave. To know means to know all. Not to know all means not to know. In order to know all, it is only necessary to know a little. But, in order to know this little, it is first necessary to know pretty much. G.I. Gurdjieff |
Sleeping Giant
User ID: 543618 United States 09/20/2014 08:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Me too bro. Btw. the capturing of 49 consulate personnel so easily was very suspicious event in the first place. Some parliamentarians from opponent parties stated from day 1, that the Erdogan government knew that ISIS would took Mousul. They got the intel beforehand, and they could move the consulate personnel but they didn't even order them to leave. Turkey is a key part of strategy for any group in the world. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Sultan Erdogan wants to recreate the Ottoman Empire, right? Which is precisely what ISIS wants with their Caliphate. Wake up, oh sleeper, and rise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2562806 United States 09/20/2014 08:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I will spell it out. ISIS=CIA/MOSSAD/BLACKWATER CIA/Mossad is trying and has been trying to overthrow ASSAD for three years but their hired goons haven't been able to get the job done. The 'beheadings' gave the US cover to (OVERTLY, because they've been doing it COVERTLY) give the goons more powerful weaponry and to launch airstrikes in Syria. Assad strongholds will be hit ("oops, we thought ISIS was hiding in there"). Turkey is located in a very strategic place from which to launch airstrikes in Syria. Turkish PM "What's in it for me?" Erdogan initially refused to provide access because "ISIS" was holding those hostages. Well, phone calls were made, excuses have been eliminated. He probably negotiated some othere benes we wont be told about. This crap is so blatantly obvious. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 63052237 Venezuela 09/20/2014 08:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Turkey’s 49 hostages freed in MİT operation, says President Erdoğan Quoting: Gregor Samsa [link to www.hurriyetdailynews.com] But PM Davudoglu made a contradictory statement, no mention of a MIT operation. In fact another member of the government - who is very close to Erdogan- send a tweet claiming that it was a CIA opretation. Just a few days ago Erdogan refused the US' request to use its air bases to stage strikes on ISIS in Syria and Iraq. One if the main reasons cited was that ISIS was holding 49 Turkish hostages. Well now it appears that ISIS was kind enough to eliminate that excuse. Why on earth would any LEGITIMATE terrorist group make a stupid move like that? for money offcourse |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2562806 United States 09/20/2014 08:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Me too bro. Btw. the capturing of 49 consulate personnel so easily was very suspicious event in the first place. Some parliamentarians from opponent parties stated from day 1, that the Erdogan government knew that ISIS would took Mousul. They got the intel beforehand, and they could move the consulate personnel but they didn't even order them to leave. Turkey is a key part of strategy for any group in the world. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Sultan Erdogan wants to recreate the Ottoman Empire, right? Which is precisely what ISIS wants with their Caliphate. "ISIS" and Turkey are on the same side. Recall the Turkish false flag in Syria last year. Erdogan was busted in recorded phone calks trying to drum up an excuse to bomb the Syrian government. |
Gregor Samsa
(OP) User ID: 63052491 Turkey 09/20/2014 08:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Me too bro. Btw. the capturing of 49 consulate personnel so easily was very suspicious event in the first place. Some parliamentarians from opponent parties stated from day 1, that the Erdogan government knew that ISIS would took Mousul. They got the intel beforehand, and they could move the consulate personnel but they didn't even order them to leave. Turkey is a key part of strategy for any group in the world. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Sultan Erdogan wants to recreate the Ottoman Empire, right? Which is precisely what ISIS wants with their Caliphate. Sultan Faildogan is not that smart or any kind of visionary politician. Some advisors close to him -one of them being the new PM Davudoglu, ex FM- made him believe that he can a leading figure in Islam world in ME, yeah some kind of pan-Ottomanism. According to some analysts their true ambition was/is pan-Islamism rather than pan-Ottomanism in the region. But they mostly know they've failed. Erdogan was already 90-100% dependent to US but after the leaked corruption documents, tapes and operations in December 2013, he is dependent to US more than ever, to protect himself and his reign. To know means to know all. Not to know all means not to know. In order to know all, it is only necessary to know a little. But, in order to know this little, it is first necessary to know pretty much. G.I. Gurdjieff |
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Gregor Samsa
(OP) User ID: 63052491 Turkey 09/20/2014 08:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I will spell it out. ISIS=CIA/MOSSAD/BLACKWATER CIA/Mossad is trying and has been trying to overthrow ASSAD for three years but their hired goons haven't been able to get the job done. The 'beheadings' gave the US cover to (OVERTLY, because they've been doing it COVERTLY) give the goons more powerful weaponry and to launch airstrikes in Syria. Assad strongholds will be hit ("oops, we thought ISIS was hiding in there"). Turkey is located in a very strategic place from which to launch airstrikes in Syria. Turkish PM "What's in it for me?" Erdogan initially refused to provide access because "ISIS" was holding those hostages. Well, phone calls were made, excuses have been eliminated. He probably negotiated some othere benes we wont be told about. This crap is so blatantly obvious. I think similarly. So add also the establishing and sustaining of no-fy zone in Northern Syria to the picture, which has been one of the main reasons of Syria issue btw. Last Edited by Gregor Samsa on 09/20/2014 08:45 AM To know means to know all. Not to know all means not to know. In order to know all, it is only necessary to know a little. But, in order to know this little, it is first necessary to know pretty much. G.I. Gurdjieff |
Gregor Samsa
(OP) User ID: 63052491 Turkey 09/20/2014 08:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Captive Turkish diplomat resisted ISIL with gun to his head [link to www.hurriyetdailynews.com] I don't buy this. To know means to know all. Not to know all means not to know. In order to know all, it is only necessary to know a little. But, in order to know this little, it is first necessary to know pretty much. G.I. Gurdjieff |
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Gregor Samsa
(OP) User ID: 63052491 Turkey 09/20/2014 09:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | very interesting development! are there any other muslims from other countries held by isis? Quoting: Ostria1 Not that i know, at least not in the same category. These people were diplomatic personnel and their families. To know means to know all. Not to know all means not to know. In order to know all, it is only necessary to know a little. But, in order to know this little, it is first necessary to know pretty much. G.I. Gurdjieff |
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User ID: 8545334 United States 09/20/2014 09:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The same director for ISIS beheading videos and a Turkish drama TV series @ :33 Untroubled, Scornful, Outrageous-That is how Wisdom wants us to be! White Genocide: 1900AD @ 35% - Today less than 8% of the earth's population Sophia's Correction |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 61705678 United States 09/20/2014 09:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I will spell it out. ISIS=CIA/MOSSAD/BLACKWATER CIA/Mossad is trying and has been trying to overthrow ASSAD for three years but their hired goons haven't been able to get the job done. The 'beheadings' gave the US cover to (OVERTLY, because they've been doing it COVERTLY) give the goons more powerful weaponry and to launch airstrikes in Syria. Assad strongholds will be hit ("oops, we thought ISIS was hiding in there"). Turkey is located in a very strategic place from which to launch airstrikes in Syria. Turkish PM "What's in it for me?" Erdogan initially refused to provide access because "ISIS" was holding those hostages. Well, phone calls were made, excuses have been eliminated. He probably negotiated some othere benes we wont be told about. This crap is so blatantly obvious. Yes. If ISIS were a legitimate threat, the only actions that would make sense would be for the US to support Assad in Syria in bringing down ISIS and to help Assad regain control of the country and stabilize it against the religious extremist rebels who want to make the Koran their government rather than the secular religious freedom government that Assad has had. Since we are not supporting Assad, the only thing that makes sense of it is the ISIS=CIA scenario with the secret intent to destroy Assad and make Syria into a region controlled by religious extremists so that the region is constantly in turmoil requiring constant US intervention and expenditure of weapons, bombs, war planes, etc. |
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I am a turkic man User ID: 55247568 Canada 09/20/2014 11:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Me too bro. Btw. the capturing of 49 consulate personnel so easily was very suspicious event in the first place. Some parliamentarians from opponent parties stated from day 1, that the Erdogan government knew that ISIS would took Mousul. They got the intel beforehand, and they could move the consulate personnel but they didn't even order them to leave. Turkey is a key part of strategy for any group in the world. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Sultan Erdogan wants to recreate the Ottoman Empire, right? Which is precisely what ISIS wants with their Caliphate. What do you think?Turks are changed .))) Blood and genes never change,we were fall a sleep but now awaken.. You can say something more !)))you are thinking all of you is blue blood?)))but we knows that we like all colours of blood)))Usa,israel etc..do you think you are in safe?My nation will Punish all of your government you kill ot let yo kill 40 millions sunni..?father was Ottoman and now his many sons is unhappy but awaken..You know economy,money,politics..we know how can destroy and kill..economy time is ended.punish time started |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 39920342 United States 09/20/2014 03:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Turkey’s 49 hostages freed in MİT operation, says President Erdoğan Quoting: Gregor Samsa [link to www.hurriyetdailynews.com] But PM Davudoglu made a contradictory statement, no mention of a MIT operation. In fact another member of the government - who is very close to Erdogan- send a tweet claiming that it was a CIA opretation. hmmm, I thought they were busy running guns and drugs... prospering hookers on the side |
The Golden Man in the Moon User ID: 62899869 Italy 09/20/2014 04:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Me too bro. Btw. the capturing of 49 consulate personnel so easily was very suspicious event in the first place. Some parliamentarians from opponent parties stated from day 1, that the Erdogan government knew that ISIS would took Mousul. They got the intel beforehand, and they could move the consulate personnel but they didn't even order them to leave. Turkey is a key part of strategy for any group in the world. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Sultan Erdogan wants to recreate the Ottoman Empire, right? Which is precisely what ISIS wants with their Caliphate. What do you think?Turks are changed .))) Blood and genes never change,we were fall a sleep but now awaken.. You can say something more !)))you are thinking all of you is blue blood?)))but we knows that we like all colours of blood)))Usa,israel etc..do you think you are in safe?My nation will Punish all of your government you kill ot let yo kill 40 millions sunni..?father was Ottoman and now his many sons is unhappy but awaken..You know economy,money,politics..we know how can destroy and kill..economy time is ended.punish time started And? when will you turic mongols show us how good you can fight??? tell us mongol, when do you come in action and invade Israel? |