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Breaking After 101 Days Turkish hostages held by ISIS have been freed and returned home

 
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Increasing number of tweets says it was a prisoner exchange and a good number is IS prisoners was returned.
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Turkey’s 49 hostages freed in MİT operation, says President Erdoğan

[link to www.hurriyetdailynews.com]

But PM Davudoglu made a contradictory statement, no mention of a MIT operation. In fact another member of the government - who is very close to Erdogan- send a tweet claiming that it was a CIA opretation.
 Quoting: Gregor Samsa


Just a few days ago Erdogan refused the US' request to use its air bases to stage strikes on ISIS in Syria and Iraq. One if the main reasons cited was that ISIS was holding 49 Turkish hostages. Well now it appears that ISIS was kind enough to eliminate that excuse. Why on earth would any LEGITIMATE terrorist group make a stupid move like that?
 Quoting: P. Henry


Interesting question.
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Turkey’s 49 hostages freed in MİT operation, says President Erdoğan

[link to www.hurriyetdailynews.com]

But PM Davudoglu made a contradictory statement, no mention of a MIT operation. In fact another member of the government - who is very close to Erdogan- send a tweet claiming that it was a CIA opretation.
 Quoting: Gregor Samsa


Just a few days ago Erdogan refused the US' request to use its air bases to stage strikes on ISIS in Syria and Iraq. One if the main reasons cited was that ISIS was holding 49 Turkish hostages. Well now it appears that ISIS was kind enough to eliminate that excuse. Why on earth would any LEGITIMATE terrorist group make a stupid move like that?
 Quoting: P. Henry


Interesting question.
 Quoting: Diomede


It is well known that Turkey have been rather supportive of IS on many levels, and there is an increasing number of reports from the area this evening there was a prisoner exchange going on where amongst the released prisoners was the wife of Hajji Bakr (some background on this Bakr figure here [link to www.aawsat.net]

Even so, Erdogan's excuse seems to have been eliminated, so it will be interesting to see where this takes Turkey.
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Why on earth would any LEGITIMATE terrorist group make a stupid move like that?
 Quoting: P. Henry


To legitamize themselves in the eyes of moderate Muslims, when even radicals like Al-Quaeda have cut off communications with ISIS.

It's called manipulation.
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I don't believe ISIS has ever just released anyone...
 Quoting: Sleeping Giant


Me too bro. Btw. the capturing of 49 consulate personnel so easily was very suspicious event in the first place. Some parliamentarians from opponent parties stated from day 1, that the Erdogan government knew that ISIS would took Mousul. They got the intel beforehand, and they could move the consulate personnel but they didn't even order them to leave.
 Quoting: Gregor Samsa


Turkey is a key part of strategy for any group in the world. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Sultan Erdogan wants to recreate the Ottoman Empire, right?

Which is precisely what ISIS wants with their Caliphate.
 Quoting: Sleeping Giant


What do you think?Turks are changed .)))
Blood and genes never change,we were fall a sleep but now awaken..
You can say something more !)))you are thinking all of you is blue blood?)))but we knows that we like all colours of blood)))Usa,israel etc..do you think you are in safe?My nation will Punish all of your government you kill ot let yo kill 40 millions sunni..?father was Ottoman and now his many sons is unhappy but awaken..You know economy,money,politics..we know how can destroy and kill..economy time is ended.punish time started
 Quoting: I am a turkic man 55247568


Punish? I am a Turk too, you stupid...!

My Ancestors(Ottomans) never didn't move via hatred. They always had brought welfare via mercy. Their purpose wasn't to punish and to domineer. Read history conquest of Istanbul, Balkans, Africa,Middle East before...

If you want to rule to world, The only strategy is to gain love of people. Justice, Mercy, welfare are the only ways to gain love of people. Because God, Islam and Quran orders these...

And If Islam will rule the world again, This will be happen via love... Not guns and blood.
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Me too bro. Btw. the capturing of 49 consulate personnel so easily was very suspicious event in the first place. Some parliamentarians from opponent parties stated from day 1, that the Erdogan government knew that ISIS would took Mousul. They got the intel beforehand, and they could move the consulate personnel but they didn't even order them to leave.
 Quoting: Gregor Samsa


Turkey is a key part of strategy for any group in the world. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Sultan Erdogan wants to recreate the Ottoman Empire, right?

Which is precisely what ISIS wants with their Caliphate.
 Quoting: Sleeping Giant


What do you think?Turks are changed .)))
Blood and genes never change,we were fall a sleep but now awaken..
You can say something more !)))you are thinking all of you is blue blood?)))but we knows that we like all colours of blood)))Usa,israel etc..do you think you are in safe?My nation will Punish all of your government you kill ot let yo kill 40 millions sunni..?father was Ottoman and now his many sons is unhappy but awaken..You know economy,money,politics..we know how can destroy and kill..economy time is ended.punish time started
 Quoting: I am a turkic man 55247568


Punish? I am a Turk too, you stupid...!

My Ancestors(Ottomans) never didn't move via hatred. They always had brought welfare via mercy. Their purpose wasn't to punish and to domineer. Read history conquest of Istanbul, Balkans, Africa,Middle East before...

If you want to rule to world, The only strategy is to gain love of people. Justice, Mercy, welfare are the only ways to gain love of people. Because God, Islam and Quran orders these...

And If Islam will rule the world again, This will be happen via love... Not guns and blood.
 Quoting: Capital06 63090471



im also a turk.
and your belief is stupid.
Islam struggles and finally kills the moral-, social- and scientifical progress.
your hole "civilisation" will get to a horrific hell on earth for lower class.
not eating piggmeat doesnt excuse the extremely primitiv sharia law and how to handle womans or convicts..

you guys r a bunch of mummy boys whit a psycological problems induced by the sexual laws of your religion.
get over that and we can talk.
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and i can insult on of the most stupid rules in islam
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damn i couldnt.
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Was this after they were infected with some kind of virus and didn't know it? Why would they release anyone? Unless it was to cause problems
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Turkey is a key part of strategy for any group in the world. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Sultan Erdogan wants to recreate the Ottoman Empire, right?

Which is precisely what ISIS wants with their Caliphate.
 Quoting: Sleeping Giant


What do you think?Turks are changed .)))
Blood and genes never change,we were fall a sleep but now awaken..
You can say something more !)))you are thinking all of you is blue blood?)))but we knows that we like all colours of blood)))Usa,israel etc..do you think you are in safe?My nation will Punish all of your government you kill ot let yo kill 40 millions sunni..?father was Ottoman and now his many sons is unhappy but awaken..You know economy,money,politics..we know how can destroy and kill..economy time is ended.punish time started
 Quoting: I am a turkic man 55247568


Punish? I am a Turk too, you stupid...!

My Ancestors(Ottomans) never didn't move via hatred. They always had brought welfare via mercy. Their purpose wasn't to punish and to domineer. Read history conquest of Istanbul, Balkans, Africa,Middle East before...

If you want to rule to world, The only strategy is to gain love of people. Justice, Mercy, welfare are the only ways to gain love of people. Because God, Islam and Quran orders these...

And If Islam will rule the world again, This will be happen via love... Not guns and blood.
 Quoting: Capital06 63090471



im also a turk.
and your belief is stupid.
Islam struggles and finally kills the moral-, social- and scientifical progress.
your hole "civilisation" will get to a horrific hell on earth for lower class.
not eating piggmeat doesnt excuse the extremely primitiv sharia law and how to handle womans or convicts..

you guys r a bunch of mummy boys whit a psycological problems induced by the sexual laws of your religion.
get over that and we can talk.
 Quoting: Curious Anus 62441864


Accually, to tell you something is waste of time. Because your mind is delimited. Because, you can,t understand my ancestor (Yunus Emre) says "Brother's friend's home is hearts, and I come to build hearts. " and you can't understand my ancestor (Mevlana) says " Come, Whatever you come again..." Unfortunately, you will die without knowing these virtues, unfortunately, you will die without living these love in your heart. I am sorry...
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What do you think?Turks are changed .)))
Blood and genes never change,we were fall a sleep but now awaken..
You can say something more !)))you are thinking all of you is blue blood?)))but we knows that we like all colours of blood)))Usa,israel etc..do you think you are in safe?My nation will Punish all of your government you kill ot let yo kill 40 millions sunni..?father was Ottoman and now his many sons is unhappy but awaken..You know economy,money,politics..we know how can destroy and kill..economy time is ended.punish time started
 Quoting: I am a turkic man 55247568


Punish? I am a Turk too, you stupid...!

My Ancestors(Ottomans) never didn't move via hatred. They always had brought welfare via mercy. Their purpose wasn't to punish and to domineer. Read history conquest of Istanbul, Balkans, Africa,Middle East before...

If you want to rule to world, The only strategy is to gain love of people. Justice, Mercy, welfare are the only ways to gain love of people. Because God, Islam and Quran orders these...

And If Islam will rule the world again, This will be happen via love... Not guns and blood.
 Quoting: Capital06 63090471



im also a turk.
and your belief is stupid.
Islam struggles and finally kills the moral-, social- and scientifical progress.
your hole "civilisation" will get to a horrific hell on earth for lower class.
not eating piggmeat doesnt excuse the extremely primitiv sharia law and how to handle womans or convicts..

you guys r a bunch of mummy boys whit a psycological problems induced by the sexual laws of your religion.
get over that and we can talk.
 Quoting: Curious Anus 62441864


Accually, to tell you something is waste of time. Because your mind is delimited. Because, you can,t understand my ancestor (Yunus Emre) says "Brother's friend's home is hearts, and I come to build hearts. " and you can't understand my ancestor (Mevlana) says " Come, Whatever you come again..." Unfortunately, you will die without knowing these virtues, unfortunately, you will die without living these love in your heart. I am sorry...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63090471


Well actually according to 'Islamists' Rumi (and other sufis too) was a kafir (infidel), not a true muslim (google Mevlana and shirk). Which i believe is true (that he was not muslim), because he understood that religions, including Islam has nothing to do with God's love. That's why he said:
"Come, come, whoever you are. Wanderer, worshiper, lover of leaving. It doesn't matter. Ours is not a caravan of despair. come, even if you have broken your vows a thousand times. Come, yet again , come , come.”
Btw. he was Persian.
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Yunus Emre;

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Mevlana(pers origin but had lived in Konya/Anatolia/Turkey);

[link to mevlana.net]

Tasavvuf(mystical dimension of Islam/Yunus Emre's and Mevlana's perennial philosophy)

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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What do you think?Turks are changed .)))
Blood and genes never change,we were fall a sleep but now awaken..
You can say something more !)))you are thinking all of you is blue blood?)))but we knows that we like all colours of blood)))Usa,israel etc..do you think you are in safe?My nation will Punish all of your government you kill ot let yo kill 40 millions sunni..?father was Ottoman and now his many sons is unhappy but awaken..You know economy,money,politics..we know how can destroy and kill..economy time is ended.punish time started
 Quoting: I am a turkic man 55247568


Punish? I am a Turk too, you stupid...!

My Ancestors(Ottomans) never didn't move via hatred. They always had brought welfare via mercy. Their purpose wasn't to punish and to domineer. Read history conquest of Istanbul, Balkans, Africa,Middle East before...

If you want to rule to world, The only strategy is to gain love of people. Justice, Mercy, welfare are the only ways to gain love of people. Because God, Islam and Quran orders these...

And If Islam will rule the world again, This will be happen via love... Not guns and blood.
 Quoting: Capital06 63090471



im also a turk.
and your belief is stupid.
Islam struggles and finally kills the moral-, social- and scientifical progress.
your hole "civilisation" will get to a horrific hell on earth for lower class.
not eating piggmeat doesnt excuse the extremely primitiv sharia law and how to handle womans or convicts..

you guys r a bunch of mummy boys whit a psycological problems induced by the sexual laws of your religion.
get over that and we can talk.
 Quoting: Curious Anus 62441864


Accually, to tell you something is waste of time. Because your mind is delimited. Because, you can,t understand my ancestor (Yunus Emre) says "Brother's friend's home is hearts, and I come to build hearts. " and you can't understand my ancestor (Mevlana) says " Come, Whatever you come again..." Unfortunately, you will die without knowing these virtues, unfortunately, you will die without living these love in your heart. I am sorry...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63090471


ha ha ha your ancestors mevlana, you say mongol??? You live in illusion... Your ancestors are bloody turic monsters who stole or destroyed Byzantine and Arabic culture... Those books or faith you claim today as yours is stolen loot, remember that.


The Golden Man in The Moon.
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I don't believe ISIS has ever just released anyone...
 Quoting: Sleeping Giant


Me too bro. Btw. the capturing of 49 consulate personnel so easily was very suspicious event in the first place. Some parliamentarians from opponent parties stated from day 1, that the Erdogan government knew that ISIS would took Mousul. They got the intel beforehand, and they could move the consulate personnel but they didn't even order them to leave.
 Quoting: Gregor Samsa


Turkey is a key part of strategy for any group in the world. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Sultan Erdogan wants to recreate the Ottoman Empire, right?

Which is precisely what ISIS wants with their Caliphate.
 Quoting: Sleeping Giant


What do you think?Turks are changed .)))
Blood and genes never change,we were fall a sleep but now awaken..
You can say something more !)))you are thinking all of you is blue blood?)))but we knows that we like all colours of blood)))Usa,israel etc..do you think you are in safe?My nation will Punish all of your government you kill ot let yo kill 40 millions sunni..?father was Ottoman and now his many sons is unhappy but awaken..You know economy,money,politics..we know how can destroy and kill..economy time is ended.punish time started
 Quoting: I am a turkic man 55247568


Wait, what?
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Me too bro. Btw. the capturing of 49 consulate personnel so easily was very suspicious event in the first place. Some parliamentarians from opponent parties stated from day 1, that the Erdogan government knew that ISIS would took Mousul. They got the intel beforehand, and they could move the consulate personnel but they didn't even order them to leave.
 Quoting: Gregor Samsa


Turkey is a key part of strategy for any group in the world. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Sultan Erdogan wants to recreate the Ottoman Empire, right?

Which is precisely what ISIS wants with their Caliphate.
 Quoting: Sleeping Giant


What do you think?Turks are changed .)))
Blood and genes never change,we were fall a sleep but now awaken..
You can say something more !)))you are thinking all of you is blue blood?)))but we knows that we like all colours of blood)))Usa,israel etc..do you think you are in safe?My nation will Punish all of your government you kill ot let yo kill 40 millions sunni..?father was Ottoman and now his many sons is unhappy but awaken..You know economy,money,politics..we know how can destroy and kill..economy time is ended.punish time started
 Quoting: I am a turkic man 55247568


Punish? I am a Turk too, you stupid...!

My Ancestors(Ottomans) never didn't move via hatred. They always had brought welfare via mercy. Their purpose wasn't to punish and to domineer. Read history conquest of Istanbul, Balkans, Africa,Middle East before...

If you want to rule to world, The only strategy is to gain love of people. Justice, Mercy, welfare are the only ways to gain love of people. Because God, Islam and Quran orders these...

And If Islam will rule the world again, This will be happen via love... Not guns and blood.
 Quoting: Capital06 63090471

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