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3 doomsday scenarios I consider impossible: Nuclear Holocaust, Comet/Asteroid impact, and Second Coming of Christ.

 
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3 doomsday scenarios I consider impossible: Nuclear Holocaust, Comet/Asteroid impact, and Second Coming of Christ.
Greetings all!! This is Seeker of Truth Rock Reynolds, still busy saving the world, comin’ to you folks in Cyberspace Conspiracy land!



THREE DOOMSDAY SCENARIOS I CONSIDER IMPOSSIBLE:
- NUCLEAR HOLOCAUST;
- COMET/ASTEROID COLLISION; and
- SECOND COMING OF CHRIST



You won’t very often find Rock Reynolds on a nuclear holocaust thread, a comet/asteroid collision thread, or a Second Coming of Jesus thread. I consider all three scenarios to be impossible.



NUCLEAR HOLOCAUST

There’s no such thing as a nuclear bomb. All nukes are fake. The explosions at Nagasaki, Hiroshima, and the test sites were not caused by a bomb, a small piece of metal with a little uranium inside. The “bomb” was a diversion. TPTB ain’t about to let the public in on the REAL nature of any weapon.

The explosions at Hiroshima, Nagasaki, and the test sites were caused by a powerful earth resonating device designed by Tesla. This same Tesla device was the cause of the early 1900’s explosion in Siberia.

Radioactivity at the fake nuke sites was planted.

The explosion in Siberia did not have any radioactivity associated with it, but was virtually identical to the blasts at Nagasaki and Hiroshima.

The radioactivity at Hiroshima, Nagasaki, and the test sites was NOT caused by the Tesla earth resonating device that caused the explosion; instead, the radiation was spread by government agents after the explosion, to complete the illusion that these massive explosions were caused by a bomb with two pounds of uranium.

TIMING OF THE EXPLOSIONS

I think it very conceivable that only one “nuclear” explosion at a time can occur.
- I have even heard it said that there are known times at which nuclear explosions cannot occur.
- I imagine that two devices competing for the resonating power of the earth may not play nice together.
- It is also quite conceivable that alignment of the sun, moon, and earth must remain within certain boundaries to accommodate Tesla’s earth resonating device.



COMET/ASTEROID COLLISION

Everything in the universe is magnetic.

All celestial bodies, such as our earth, are magnets.
- Earth has a north pole and a south pole.
- Earth spins on this axis (approximately).
- The earth is a very weak, but massive, magnet. It has very low “voltage” and very high “amps”.
- There is no such force as “gravity”. “Gravity” is an illusion promoted by TPTB. “Gravity” is nothing more than the effects of magnetism WITHIN a giant magnetic field.
- If a person lives at 45 Degrees North Latitude and drops a ball, that person says that the ball went “down”. But, if the dropped ball is observed from a platform that is INDEPENDENT of the earth, the ball did not go “down”. From an observation point aligned with earth’s North/South axis, a ball dropped at 45 Degrees North Latitude drops in a direction 225 Degrees. Similarly, a ball dropped at 45 Degrees South Latitude drops in a direction of 45 Degrees to the “vertical”, hardly “down”. In all cases of “gravity”, objects are pulled towards the center of a great big spherical magnet, the earth. “Gravity” is nothing more than the earth’s magnetism.
- Magnets fall to earth at the same rate as a person, because the rate of fall is determined by the magnet with the bigger mass, the earth. The magnetism of the object being dropped is virtually meaningless. All objects on earth are “infinitely” smaller than the earth.

CELESTIAL BODIES DON’T RUN INTO EACH OTHER

Although celestial objects attract each other, they NEVER collide.
- Instead of colliding, celestial objects enter into ORBIT around each other.
- An orbit between two celestial objects is the equilibrium between the attractive forces of magnetism and the repulsive forces of magnetism.
- Comets always miss the sun. The very few comets that do not appear on the other side of the sun did not impact the sun, but instead, disintegrated into millions of small pieces under the tremendous destructive forces of the solar wind.
- The tail of a comet around the sun is a clear visual indication that the comet is being PUSHED AWAY from the sun at the point of the comet’s closest approach to the sun. The tail of the comet DOES NOT FOLLOW the path of the comet. Instead, the tail of the comet is ALWAYS directly opposite the position of the sun, indicating a massive REPULSIVE force.
- I have seen probably 200 shooting stars in my life. EVERY SINGLE ONE moved in a path ACROSS the sky, NOT “down”. After a journey of billions of miles, EVERY SINGLE shooting star has moved “sideways” by the time it reaches our atmosphere, a mere 40 miles up. Meteors are not being pulled “down” to the earth when they are observed; instead, they are being pushed away from the earth.
- Very few meteors “burn up” in our atmosphere. They do burn for a little while, but they leave the atmosphere and head back out into space.
- The difference between a meteor and a piece of iron here on earth, is that the piece of iron here on earth is ALREADY consumed within the earth’s giant magnetic field. Therefore, a piece of iron on earth will “fall” towards the center of the magnet, earth.
- A few small meteors, traveling at very high speeds and approaching the earth with a steep angle of initial attack, may be able to penetrate the repulsive forces of the earth and impact the earth to become meteorites. These instances are very rare, and only the smallest rocks have the capability to penetrate the earth’s atmosphere.
- Artificial acceleration forces can cause objects to collide.
- Craters are not caused by natural celestial collisions. Craters may be caused by volcanic activity, other internal magnetic disturbances, artificial explosions (e.g. wars), or previous catastrophic events in the life of the object (e.g. close encounter with a star, resulting in massive magnetic exchanges).

A POSSIBLE CELESTIAL CATASTOPHY: CAPTURE OF ADDITIONAL MOON

Here’s some good news for all the Chicken Littles in the reading audience!

Although I claim that comets and asteroids do not collide with anything, it is possible for a comet to pass close enough to the earth to become a second moon (or, more technically a third moon, if one considers Cruithne to be a moon.).

When the earth “captured” our moon, the result was catastrophic. The earth, whose axis had previously been aligned with the sun, was suddenly tilted up 23 degrees from the sun to accommodate the new celestial partner. This 23-degree tilt (relative to the sun) shows the remarkable BALANCE at work in the laws of nature:
- Both the sun and the moon appear to be approximately the same size relative to the earth. NOT a coincidence.
- The earth’s 23 degree tilt just happens to accommodate BOTH the sun and the moon, so that their ground paths around the earth have an “average” track around the center of the earth, the equator. NOT a coincidence.
- Both the sun and the moon ground paths travel in very close declinations. The sun moves between 23 Degrees North and 23 Degrees South all of the time. The moon varies between 16 Degrees and 26 Degrees of North/South Declination. NOT a coincidence.



SECOND COMING OF CHRIST

The second coming of Christ cannot occur because there never was a first coming of Christ.

Jesus was the greatest prophet of all time, but he was not Christ. The lie that Jesus was Christ came from Paul (I call him Saul.) and the Disciples, not from Jesus. The words that Jesus spoke contradict the teachings of Christianity, which originated with Paul, possibly the most evil man in the history of the world.

Jesus declared the entire Old Testament to be invalid, except for two verses:
- Love God.
- Love your neighbor.

With Jesus’ claim that the Old Testament was invalid, Jesus invalidated the three religions that rely on the Old Testament:
- Judaism;
- Christianity; and
- Islam.

SATAN’S GREATEST LIE: LAW OF MOSES

Jesus proved the invalidity of the Old Testament, with his question to the Pharisees that they could not answer: “Was Moses a God or a Man?”

Jesus knew that the “Law of Moses” was an oxymoron, which declared itself to be invalid. The “Law of Moses” proclaims only one God, yet uses the authority of Moses, a man, not a God. The “Law of Moses” is a law from a man, not God.

God cannot talk to us through a book. The only way to contact God is through your conscience.

Evil took majority control of the world after Eve’s “fall”, the forbidden fruit, when the serpent taught Eve to write. With the ability to write came the ability to deceive.

Satan’s greatest lie, the granddaddy of all lies, is the “Law of Moses”. By deceiving people into thinking that God’s word can be confirmed in the written word of Man, Satan has successfully hidden the REAL law of God, to “Love God” and “Love your neighbor”.



Rap wif ya’ later.

Rock
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Re: 3 doomsday scenarios I consider impossible: Nuclear Holocaust, Comet/Asteroid impact, and Second Coming of Christ.
Asteroid impacts HAVE happened
and will again - just a matter of time.

Nucular Holycast - doubtful

"2nd coming" - riiiight

peace,
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Re: 3 doomsday scenarios I consider impossible: Nuclear Holocaust, Comet/Asteroid impact, and Second Coming of Christ.
The first two claims are silly. The third one is considerably more sensible.

Nuclear weapons exist. Asteroid impacts occur. But yeah, the "second coming" thing is extremely far-fetched.
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Re: 3 doomsday scenarios I consider impossible: Nuclear Holocaust, Comet/Asteroid impact, and Second Coming of Christ.
When the Shoemaker-Levy comets plowed into Jupiter, that made it clear it could happen here too. But as a valuable intelligent life-bearing planet, there are probably some protections against that being allowed to happen to Earth.
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OP's IQ is well below 85...

stfu
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So the Second Coming is now a doomsady scenario?


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Since all three have happened in the past, only 2 provable to most- how the hell is it impossible. lol





Greetings all!! This is Seeker of Truth Rock Reynolds, still busy saving the world, comin’ to you folks in Cyberspace Conspiracy land!



THREE DOOMSDAY SCENARIOS I CONSIDER IMPOSSIBLE:
- NUCLEAR HOLOCAUST;
- COMET/ASTEROID COLLISION; and
- SECOND COMING OF CHRIST



You won’t very often find Rock Reynolds on a nuclear holocaust thread, a comet/asteroid collision thread, or a Second Coming of Jesus thread. I consider all three scenarios to be impossible.



NUCLEAR HOLOCAUST

There’s no such thing as a nuclear bomb. All nukes are fake. The explosions at Nagasaki, Hiroshima, and the test sites were not caused by a bomb, a small piece of metal with a little uranium inside. The “bomb” was a diversion. TPTB ain’t about to let the public in on the REAL nature of any weapon.

The explosions at Hiroshima, Nagasaki, and the test sites were caused by a powerful earth resonating device designed by Tesla. This same Tesla device was the cause of the early 1900’s explosion in Siberia.

Radioactivity at the fake nuke sites was planted.

The explosion in Siberia did not have any radioactivity associated with it, but was virtually identical to the blasts at Nagasaki and Hiroshima.

The radioactivity at Hiroshima, Nagasaki, and the test sites was NOT caused by the Tesla earth resonating device that caused the explosion; instead, the radiation was spread by government agents after the explosion, to complete the illusion that these massive explosions were caused by a bomb with two pounds of uranium.

TIMING OF THE EXPLOSIONS

I think it very conceivable that only one “nuclear” explosion at a time can occur.
- I have even heard it said that there are known times at which nuclear explosions cannot occur.
- I imagine that two devices competing for the resonating power of the earth may not play nice together.
- It is also quite conceivable that alignment of the sun, moon, and earth must remain within certain boundaries to accommodate Tesla’s earth resonating device.



COMET/ASTEROID COLLISION

Everything in the universe is magnetic.

All celestial bodies, such as our earth, are magnets.
- Earth has a north pole and a south pole.
- Earth spins on this axis (approximately).
- The earth is a very weak, but massive, magnet. It has very low “voltage” and very high “amps”.
- There is no such force as “gravity”. “Gravity” is an illusion promoted by TPTB. “Gravity” is nothing more than the effects of magnetism WITHIN a giant magnetic field.
- If a person lives at 45 Degrees North Latitude and drops a ball, that person says that the ball went “down”. But, if the dropped ball is observed from a platform that is INDEPENDENT of the earth, the ball did not go “down”. From an observation point aligned with earth’s North/South axis, a ball dropped at 45 Degrees North Latitude drops in a direction 225 Degrees. Similarly, a ball dropped at 45 Degrees South Latitude drops in a direction of 45 Degrees to the “vertical”, hardly “down”. In all cases of “gravity”, objects are pulled towards the center of a great big spherical magnet, the earth. “Gravity” is nothing more than the earth’s magnetism.
- Magnets fall to earth at the same rate as a person, because the rate of fall is determined by the magnet with the bigger mass, the earth. The magnetism of the object being dropped is virtually meaningless. All objects on earth are “infinitely” smaller than the earth.

CELESTIAL BODIES DON’T RUN INTO EACH OTHER

Although celestial objects attract each other, they NEVER collide.
- Instead of colliding, celestial objects enter into ORBIT around each other.
- An orbit between two celestial objects is the equilibrium between the attractive forces of magnetism and the repulsive forces of magnetism.
- Comets always miss the sun. The very few comets that do not appear on the other side of the sun did not impact the sun, but instead, disintegrated into millions of small pieces under the tremendous destructive forces of the solar wind.
- The tail of a comet around the sun is a clear visual indication that the comet is being PUSHED AWAY from the sun at the point of the comet’s closest approach to the sun. The tail of the comet DOES NOT FOLLOW the path of the comet. Instead, the tail of the comet is ALWAYS directly opposite the position of the sun, indicating a massive REPULSIVE force.
- I have seen probably 200 shooting stars in my life. EVERY SINGLE ONE moved in a path ACROSS the sky, NOT “down”. After a journey of billions of miles, EVERY SINGLE shooting star has moved “sideways” by the time it reaches our atmosphere, a mere 40 miles up. Meteors are not being pulled “down” to the earth when they are observed; instead, they are being pushed away from the earth.
- Very few meteors “burn up” in our atmosphere. They do burn for a little while, but they leave the atmosphere and head back out into space.
- The difference between a meteor and a piece of iron here on earth, is that the piece of iron here on earth is ALREADY consumed within the earth’s giant magnetic field. Therefore, a piece of iron on earth will “fall” towards the center of the magnet, earth.
- A few small meteors, traveling at very high speeds and approaching the earth with a steep angle of initial attack, may be able to penetrate the repulsive forces of the earth and impact the earth to become meteorites. These instances are very rare, and only the smallest rocks have the capability to penetrate the earth’s atmosphere.
- Artificial acceleration forces can cause objects to collide.
- Craters are not caused by natural celestial collisions. Craters may be caused by volcanic activity, other internal magnetic disturbances, artificial explosions (e.g. wars), or previous catastrophic events in the life of the object (e.g. close encounter with a star, resulting in massive magnetic exchanges).

A POSSIBLE CELESTIAL CATASTOPHY: CAPTURE OF ADDITIONAL MOON

Here’s some good news for all the Chicken Littles in the reading audience!

Although I claim that comets and asteroids do not collide with anything, it is possible for a comet to pass close enough to the earth to become a second moon (or, more technically a third moon, if one considers Cruithne to be a moon.).

When the earth “captured” our moon, the result was catastrophic. The earth, whose axis had previously been aligned with the sun, was suddenly tilted up 23 degrees from the sun to accommodate the new celestial partner. This 23-degree tilt (relative to the sun) shows the remarkable BALANCE at work in the laws of nature:
- Both the sun and the moon appear to be approximately the same size relative to the earth. NOT a coincidence.
- The earth’s 23 degree tilt just happens to accommodate BOTH the sun and the moon, so that their ground paths around the earth have an “average” track around the center of the earth, the equator. NOT a coincidence.
- Both the sun and the moon ground paths travel in very close declinations. The sun moves between 23 Degrees North and 23 Degrees South all of the time. The moon varies between 16 Degrees and 26 Degrees of North/South Declination. NOT a coincidence.



SECOND COMING OF CHRIST

The second coming of Christ cannot occur because there never was a first coming of Christ.

Jesus was the greatest prophet of all time, but he was not Christ. The lie that Jesus was Christ came from Paul (I call him Saul.) and the Disciples, not from Jesus. The words that Jesus spoke contradict the teachings of Christianity, which originated with Paul, possibly the most evil man in the history of the world.

Jesus declared the entire Old Testament to be invalid, except for two verses:
- Love God.
- Love your neighbor.

With Jesus’ claim that the Old Testament was invalid, Jesus invalidated the three religions that rely on the Old Testament:
- Judaism;
- Christianity; and
- Islam.

SATAN’S GREATEST LIE: LAW OF MOSES

Jesus proved the invalidity of the Old Testament, with his question to the Pharisees that they could not answer: “Was Moses a God or a Man?”

Jesus knew that the “Law of Moses” was an oxymoron, which declared itself to be invalid. The “Law of Moses” proclaims only one God, yet uses the authority of Moses, a man, not a God. The “Law of Moses” is a law from a man, not God.

God cannot talk to us through a book. The only way to contact God is through your conscience.

Evil took majority control of the world after Eve’s “fall”, the forbidden fruit, when the serpent taught Eve to write. With the ability to write came the ability to deceive.

Satan’s greatest lie, the granddaddy of all lies, is the “Law of Moses”. By deceiving people into thinking that God’s word can be confirmed in the written word of Man, Satan has successfully hidden the REAL law of God, to “Love God” and “Love your neighbor”.



Rap wif ya’ later.

Rock
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Greetings earthlings!!



SHOEMAKER-LEVY COMET AND JUPITER

I can’t believe the number of people who claim that the Shoemaker-Levy Comet impacted Jupiter.

They are absolutely wrong.

The comet impacted Jupiter’s ATMOSPHERE, not its surface.

And then, after the collision with Jupiter’s ATMOSPHERE…

The Shoemaker-Levy Comet went back into space as 23 discernable pieces.

I would bet a dollar that these 23 discernable pieces of Shoemaker-Levy are now orbiting Jupiter, not the sun anymore. I would bet 5 dollars, but my wife won’t let me have 5 dollars.

Just as I said in my opening thread…

Cataclysm will result when a comet gets “captured” by a planet. But the cataclysm does NOT involve impact between a comet and the surface of the planet.



CRUITHNE

Right after I posted my opening thread, I realized that Cruithne is not a second moon, but is a chunk of our proper moon. The reason that Cruithne follows our moon around its orbit, is that it was initially part of that same orbit when it was attached to the moon. Cruithne may have broken off during the moon’s life as a comet, or it may have broken off in the moon’s initial encounter with earth.



REPORTS OF ASTEROID IMPACTS WITH THE EARTH

There have been many reports of asteroid impacts with the earth. Many threads on GLP have even reported such impacts, and some have even provided video tapes showing the “asteroid”.

These “asteroids” are not asteroids at all. They are just space junk.

NOBODY has produced a single piece of “asteroid” rock from these “collisions”. Where did the asteroids go after their “collisions” with earth? Why have seismic sensors not detected these cataclysmic “collisions”?



Hi DanG!! Thanx for the comments!

DanG, can you please name one asteroid impact on your list? I’d love to see it.



Hi Naturyl!! Thanx for the comments!



Hi 2298!! Thanx for the comments!

See my Shoemaker-Levy comments at the beginning of this post.



Hi 6266!! Thanx for the comments!

6266, I have never claimed to be a rocket surgeon or a brain scientist. But I do know the difference between a planet’s surface and its atmosphere.



Hi 100371!! Thanx for the comments!

100371, some people mention tribulation and war associated with the Second Coming of Christ. You haven’t heard of those???



Hi Aaron Capricorn!! Thanx for the thoughtful comments!

Aaron, what do you think of my claim that the atmosphere of Jupiter is not the same as the surface of Jupiter??? Pretty stupid, eh, Aaron???



Hi 117680!! Thanx for the comments!

117680, could you please be a little more vague on your comments?



Rap wif ya’ later.

Rock
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"A POSSIBLE CELESTIAL CATASTOPHY: CAPTURE OF ADDITIONAL MOON

Here’s some good news for all the Chicken Littles in the reading audience!

Although I claim that comets and asteroids do not collide with anything, it is possible for a comet to pass close enough to the earth to become a second moon (or, more technically a third moon, if one considers Cruithne to be a moon.).

When the earth “captured” our moon, the result was catastrophic. The earth, whose axis had previously been aligned with the sun, was suddenly tilted up 23 degrees from the sun to accommodate the new celestial partner. This 23-degree tilt (relative to the sun) shows the remarkable BALANCE at work in the laws of nature:
- Both the sun and the moon appear to be approximately the same size relative to the earth. NOT a coincidence.
- The earth’s 23 degree tilt just happens to accommodate BOTH the sun and the moon, so that their ground paths around the earth have an “average” track around the center of the earth, the equator. NOT a coincidence.
- Both the sun and the moon ground paths travel in very close declinations. The sun moves between 23 Degrees North and 23 Degrees South all of the time. The moon varies between 16 Degrees and 26 Degrees of North/South Declination. NOT a coincidence"



That is an intriguing explanation and makes more sense than the other theories but it does not explain the moon's cycles of orbit in relation to the earth's influence nor combined with the sun's influence if you graph each possible influence on the moon at each of its locations throughout its cycles. From the instant of the supposition actually occuring (as supposed) and where the moon ended up in its tell-tale orbit cannot be explained the influences you suggest.

To make your model work and you famous for the effort, you should prove your hypothesis by building a model to illustrate possible influences on the moon that determine its orbit.
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Notice how Rock Reynolds did not mention the soon to be total annihilation of the Krusty Krab!
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I can't help but to like the ROCK. He sets examples of how we should develop our own dividual authority and not to be passive or lazy by accepting a bad authority.
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Rock is quite a character!

Middle aged rock n roller, we hear what you're playin!!
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But you can't forget about:

1) Bird Flu
2) Homosexual Takeover
3) Pole Shift

explosion
Well it seems so real I can see it
And it seems so real I can feel it
And it seems so real I can taste it
And it seems so real I can hear it
So why can't I touch it?
So why can't I touch it?


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But you can't forget about:

1) Bird Flu
2) Homosexual Takeover
3) Pole Shift

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hahaha, number two would be hilarious!

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Greetings everyone!!



My purpose in OP’ing this thread is to address the issue of FEAR. Fear is the tool of Satan, and fear lies at the root of every negative emotion. Anger, hatred, conceit, and betrayal are ALL based on fear.



TPTB derive their powers from our FEAR.



But TPTB aren’t RESPONSIBLE for our fear. We are all responsible for our own fear. If TPTB are successful into tricking you to be afraid, then the fear is YOUR fault. You shouldn’t have allowed TPTB to trick you.



There are a million reasons to “hate” TPTB, but “brink of nuclear war” ain’t one of those reasons.



Hi 6948!! Rummy and Dubya really had some doozies, didn’t they?



Hi Lisa!! Thanx for the thoughtful comments!

Lisa, I always look for the simplest feasible explanation for any question. When I see the sun and moon orbiting around the earth’s equator, I see balance provided by earth’s 23 degree tilt to the sun. I really think that the orbit of the moon is that simple. The moon’s orbit is equilibrium between the sun, the moon, and the earth.

And, Lisa, as I “look” around our solar system, I see a tendency for celestial bodies to ALL orbit in ONE 2-dimensional plane. Some celestial bodies do not line up exactly with this 2-dimensional plane, but all are reasonably close. Lisa, I have concluded that there must be a tendency for orbits to SEEK this 2-dimensional plane. Over time, I predict that the earth will tilt ZERO degrees to the sun (unlike the 23-degree tilt of today), and that the moon’s orbit will also occupy this very same 2-dimensional plane.

Lisa, I further maintain that the orbit of the moon around the earth is caused by the exact same force that causes the orbit of comets around the sun: magnetism. Unlike the illusion called “gravity”, magnetism has BOTH an ATTRACTION force and a REPULSION force. Magnetism is the ONLY force that explains orbits: Celestial bodies are attracted to each other, but, before they collide, they repel each other. Result: orbit.

If gravity were a real force, comets would ALWAYS collide with the sun. According to gravity, comets are always ACCELERATED towards the CENTER OF MASS. Lisa, according to gravity, it is not possible for a comet to miss the sun. According to “gravity”, a comet is always ACCELERATED towards the CENTER of the sun.

In my search for the simplest answer, I have concluded that “gravity” is just a subset of magnetism. The “gravity” model ONLY holds true for the surface of the earth. The illusion of “gravity” is caused by the great big magnet called earth. “Gravity” is the subset of magnetism that occurs on the surface of a great big magnet.

Or, stated another way, God does not need TWO invisible forces that attract objects to each other (gravity AND magnetism); instead, God only needs ONE force: magnetism (more technically, electromagnetism).


Lisa, you previously mentioned construction of a model. I consider construction of a model to be way beyond my capacity, because, while I have a firm understanding of my concepts, I do not have any empirical data to construct such a model.


Lisa, thank you especially for your kind and accurate comment about authority. As you can see by this thread and the “Moon” thread, I receive (and expect) very few kind comments.



Hi Plankton!!! Thanx for the comment!

What’s the Krusty Krab?



Hi 122630!! Thanx for checkin’ in!

And to clarify, 122630, I consider REAL “Rock ‘n Roll” to be the 50’s 60’s doo-wop stuff. While Led Zepillin was a great band, I consider them to be “Rock”, NOT “Rock ‘n Roll”.




Hi Babe in a Bunker!! Thanx for the comments!

Here’s the Rock Reynolds take on the three scenarios:

Bird Flu: Possible, but I ain’t worried about it hitting me.

Homosexual takeover: Already happened, thousands of years ago.

Pole shift: I tend to believe that our previous pole shift was caused by the “capture” of our moon, and, yes, it could happen again. We could capture another moon.



Hi o rly!! Thanx for checkin’ in!



Rap wif ya’ later.

Rock
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just to clarify,

second coming of christ=second coming of nibiru
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Rock Reynolds asks, "What is the Krusty Krab?"

He must be mocking me. Everyne knows that the Krusty Krab is home of the famous Krabby Patty, invented by that imbecile Eugene Krabs. I hate Krabs, and his squareshaped moronic fry cook Spongebob Squarepants. But they'll see. You will all see. The Krusty Krab shall be no more. Once Plan Z has been implemented, I will control Bikini Bottom. And then it'll be Chum Patties for everyone!
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Hi Plankton!!!

(Notice the three exclamation points: my two "standard" exclamation points plus the one that you append to your name.).

Oh....

THAT Krusty Krab.

How uncultural of me to not know about the Krusty Krab. Thanx for the enlightenment!



Rap wif ya' later.

Rock
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"Lisa, I always look for the simplest feasible explanation for any question. When I see the sun and moon orbiting around the earth’s equator, I see balance provided by earth’s 23 degree tilt to the sun. I really think that the orbit of the moon is that simple. The moon’s orbit is equilibrium between the sun, the moon, and the earth."

In your quest to develop your authority you do require reasoning tools don't you? I appreciate the thought behind your postulation. You earnestly try to apply your authority in explaining what has not been adequately explained if not completely ignored. Because you have a developed authority you were able to address me by explaining your position. However, as I acknowledge the influences you mentioned I must insist that for any model to be workable it must graph-out per the moon's cycles of orbits.

You are very close my friend. Consider this:

What if the moon were artificially maneuvered? What if the energy required by the moon's specifications to execute whatever was obtained through some of what you say? Could that possibly make sense? Consider....


"And, Lisa, as I “look” around our solar system, I see a tendency for celestial bodies to ALL orbit in ONE 2-dimensional plane. Some celestial bodies do not line up exactly with this 2-dimensional plane, but all are reasonably close. Lisa, I have concluded that there must be a tendency for orbits to SEEK this 2-dimensional plane. Over time, I predict that the earth will tilt ZERO degrees to the sun (unlike the 23-degree tilt of today), and that the moon’s orbit will also occupy this very same 2-dimensional plane."


Interesting that you should say "seek". And the tilt change may occur just as you said. But could it be through intelligent design? Consider.....


"Lisa, I further maintain that the orbit of the moon around the earth is caused by the exact same force that causes the orbit of comets around the sun: magnetism. Unlike the illusion called “gravity”, magnetism has BOTH an ATTRACTION force and a REPULSION force. Magnetism is the ONLY force that explains orbits: Celestial bodies are attracted to each other, but, before they collide, they repel each other. Result: orbit."

The magnetism is what may help to nurish the energy required by the moon. Consider...

I can envision magnetism influencing an object moving in a vector that runs closely to an influencing-capable object and that vector result in a variation of the original vector.


I cannot see how magnetism could be so great (to include possible gravity) that the earth could capture the moon and further define its orbit even with the other influences from distant objects. If all the influence were that great wouldn't we observe NEO's and other objects in space differently?



"If gravity were a real force, comets would ALWAYS collide with the sun."

That makes sense.


" According to gravity, comets are always ACCELERATED towards the CENTER OF MASS. Lisa, according to gravity, it is not possible for a comet to miss the sun. According to “gravity”, a comet is always ACCELERATED towards the CENTER of the sun."

Hence my friend, Your developed authority will not allow you to accept what is purveyed as real to the masses. You reject that absurdity with thinking dedicated to analyzing what doesn't make sense. Freethinkers do that.


"In my search for the simplest answer, I have concluded that “gravity” is just a subset of magnetism. The “gravity” model ONLY holds true for the surface of the earth."

You are astute indeed.



" The illusion of “gravity” is caused by the great big magnet called earth. “Gravity” is the subset of magnetism that occurs on the surface of a great big magnet."

You are very close but the moon's cycles of orbits does not agree with that. If you can produce a graph realtive to the moon's cycles of orbits you shall be very famous indeed. GOOD LUCK!



"Or, stated another way, God does not need TWO invisible forces that attract objects to each other (gravity AND magnetism); instead, God only needs ONE force: magnetism (more technically, electromagnetism)."

Very Close indeed. Go past attraction. Intent is the operative of God. The better trained the intent the better the results.




"Lisa, you previously mentioned construction of a model. I consider construction of a model to be way beyond my capacity, because, while I have a firm understanding of my concepts, I do not have any empirical data to construct such a model."

You are capable. Perhaps you are unaware of your ability. But that is neither here or there. Granted a model shant be produced. However a model as I discuss would remove all doubt for my authority. As it stands, the influences that defines the moon's orbit, if they are real, must be graphed per each location of the moon in its cycles of orbits to explain the orbit graphed. That makes sense doesn't it? My authority only slightly differs from yours in respect to some pivotal points in your authority as you present it. Our desire is the same.




"Lisa, thank you especially for your kind and accurate comment about authority. As you can see by this thread and the “Moon” thread, I receive (and expect) very few kind comments."

You set the example of establishing and developing independent authority and to NOT be passive and lazy and accept a bad authority. Thank you for that. Not many are willing to drudge through this circus of educated debunkers for the edification of others and the fun of stumping them all together for demonstration.
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Greetings earthlings!! My thread ratings have skyrocketed all the way up to “crap”! Way to go!



Hi Lisa!!


I have a “possibly revised” model of the earth/moon/sun relationship based upon your reasonable comments. I did not fully comprehend your arguments, so I don’t know if my “possibly revised” model will answer your questions. Nevertheless, your comments are thought provoking. I very much appreciate your comments.



MOVEMENT OF THE MOON

A most unusual aspect of the earth/sun/moon relationship is that the same side of the moon always faces the sun. Most unusual indeed. The same side of the earth does not always face the sun.

Heat reduces magnetism. IMHO, the side of the moon facing the sun is ALWAYS the least magnetic side, and the dark side of the moon is ALWAYS the most magnetic side. These magnetic differences between the light and dark side of the moon, are so pronounced, that the moon is “locked” in this orientation with the sun.

I can think of two possible causes of the moon’s “non-rotation” with the sun:
- Possible cause #1 – Lunar Eclipse. When the earth captured the moon, the moon had a normal rotation, just like the earth. As the moon passed through darkness caused by the earth’s shadow during a lunar eclipse, the normally weak magnetic surface of the moon’s light side would increase and slow the moon’s rotation.
- Possible Cause #2 – Initial Entry from Comet Orbit. It is conceivable to me that the moon, during its life as a comet, had already adapted to this “non-rotation”, and entered into its relationship with the earth already in the “non-rotation” orientation. Furthermore, the non-rotation bond between the moon and the sun, could be stronger than the orbit bond between the moon and the earth.



“POSSIBLY REVISED” MODEL OF EARTH/MOON/SUN RELATIONSHIP

It is conceivable to me that the moon’s “non-rotation” with the sun may indicate a stronger magnetic relationship than the “earth-moon” relationship.

Therefore…

It is conceivable to me that the earth is revolving around the moon (From the sun’s point of view). Although the earth has significantly more mass than the moon, the moon has established a relationship with the sun that carries more weight than the earth/moon relationship.



WHY DOESN’T THE SAME SIDE OF THE EARTH ALWAYS FACE THE SUN?

Answer: I don’t know.

Here’s a thought.

The moon may be more magnetic than the earth. After all, the moon does appear to be a big chunk of iron.

It is also conceivable to me that our moon was once a celestial body with the same mass as earth. The reduced size of the moon that we observe today, could be the result of its long life as a comet, in which the catastrophic solar wind stripped away the outside. In other words, the moon is an “earth” with its outside stripped away.

Craters on the moon were not caused by celestial collisions. Magnetism does not allow collisions of that magnitude. Instead, craters on the moon were caused by massive solar flares during the moon’s life as a comet, as it passed close to the sun.



ARTIFICIAL MOVEMENT OF THE MOON

Lisa, the government cannot stop the orbit of the moon around the earth (or, as stated earlier, the earth around the moon). Orbits are the natural result of celestial bodies that come under each other’s influence.

But, Lisa, I do think the government capable of affecting the moon’s “orbit”. I think the government capable of affecting the ANGLE of orbit.

By placing a powerful magnetic HAARP beam that PENETRATES the earth’s atmosphere, the government can induce another variable into the magnetic equation, causing the moon to seek a new equilibrium, and to “rotate the earth” at “unnatural” angles.

It is very conceivable to me that the power outages we are seeing, are really just diversions of power to HAARP.


Lisa, thank you once again for the many kind statements. I am not used to a “barrage” of “that almost makes sense”.



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Somebody hasn't read 'Uriel's Machine'.
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Hi Lisa!!



One more thing I forgot to mention.



I base my entire “thought only” model on “magnetism”, which has ONLY two properties:
- Property 1. At far distances, objects attract each other.
- Property 2. At close distances, objects repel each other.



Lisa, I believe that these two properties alone, account for all of the movement in the universe.



If I ever design a model, my first attempt will be based only on these two properties.



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Hi Rock

To continue and assist you in constructing a model as I discuss to prove your postulation, I quote you once more.

"Lisa, you previously mentioned construction of a model. I consider construction of a model to be way beyond my capacity, because, while I have a firm understanding of my concepts, I do not have any empirical data to construct such a model."


What do you consider imperical data?

All one has to do is "assign" a value of 1 to reflect the earth's possible, greatest influence realized at the moon's perigee and less than 1 for each location of the moon thereafter and for each of its cycles. I provided links for calculators in your other thread. Then assign the value 1 for the postion of the moon when it is closest to the sun and then less than 1 thereafter. In other words, assign a value of 1 to any possible influence on the moon when the moon is closest to that possible influence. Then graph that (each) influence as the moon travels through its orbit in whatever cycle you have calculated.

By doing the above you may accurately determine if those influences are in fact real. If you can prove anything other than what I have said using this model you will be famous. Too bad Phil's explanation of the moon's spin does not stand to "the model".
You see, the model is the key. You don't need anything other than assigning values to influences and see how those influences matters in regards to how the moon orbits the earth. I truly hope that this helps you in visualizing the model to assist you in proving something that makes sense when related to what is observed but does not answer the main topic of this discussion which is the moon's orbit and how it was captured, if at all. Second in this discussion is the model. I have established a model that will prove any influence on the moon if that influence is real.


Do you agree that by assigning values to your suggested influences in respect to the moon's locations in its orbit would either prove or disprove what you postulate?

LS
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Hi Lisa!!



Lisa, your model proposal sounds “feasible”; however, I feel unqualified to comment on the validity of the proposal, unless I see the model results, and the results match observed behavior. Additionally Lisa, one always has to be careful with “models”. I often think of the story, about our scientists who can “prove” that bumblebees cannot fly.

Here are some potential problems I see with model construction:
- Assignment of relative power ratios between sun/moon, earth/moon, and earth/sun bonds. Furthermore, are these relationships only dependent upon mass and distance? What about body composition (e.g. Is the moon more magnetic than the earth?)?
- Adjusting the model to account for my perception that the dark side of the moon is more magnetic than the light side of the moon. By how much, if any?
- Affect of other planets on the sun/moon/earth relationship. The earth seems to have occupied a position in its orbit around the sun, that is related to the position of the other planets. Earth and Mars seem to stay out of each other’s “turfs”.
- Magnetism is a 3-dimensional force. I don’t know if magnetism can be defined as a constant or simple variable, in all 3 dimensions.

In summary, Lisa, although I claim the underlying forces to be simple, I also imagine the relationships between bodies to be extremely intricate. Everything connects to everything.

The government seems capable of predicting moon movement. Of course, the government has also had Tesla and other geniuses in its employ. It is still conceivable to me that construction of a model would be way over my head.

I am not convinced that the government is telling us “everything there is to know” about the model they use to predict moon movement. For instance, the government “explains” many forces with the lie called “gravity”.

It is even conceivable to me that the government does not know “everything there is to know” about the moon’s movement, and is just blindly inserting known historical cycles into its model to predict future movement. I am not aware of the extent to which the government can predict moon movement. For instance, I have no knowledge as to whether or not their predictions are accurate up to 5 years or longer. For all I know, the government may only be capable of 2-year moon forecasts, and may have to adjust its forecasts periodically.

But, Lisa, you have me thinking about a moon model.
- I could always try and take a look at the results. If I fail, then I fail.
- I would start my model with a simple 2-body simulation, and I would confirm that, according to my model, these two bodies orbit each other.
- As I add objects to the model, I would have to account for initial differences between comets, planets, moons, and the sun.



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JUST GET OFF THE DRUGS
THIS WILL NEVER HAPPEN AND THERE IS NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT
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Hi THE MAN!! Thanx for the comment!

THE MAN, could you please be a little more vague?



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Hi Rock


Thanks for your response and discussion.

At least you are open to other considerations. What you say makes sense and would be hard to argue but for the model. I am not saying you are wrong in any measure. I am meley stating what will ring everyone's bell: a model that explains whatever is to be illustrated, the model constructed as I discussed.


I'm sure I have now made that point.



Thanx Rock for the time and consideration.


Later

LS
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The Second Coming is already here - however many are looking for it to manifest physically outside of them.

The Second Coming is a shift in consciousness from being directed by the Illusion of Love from the Ego to the Consciousness level of Love.

Accept everyone for who they are - Love everyone equally - Recognize that every individualized expression of consciousness has a chosen path to follow that serves their spiritual growth pattern. It isn't up to anyone to try and change another....only to change the Action/Reaction Causal Loop by breaking the Chain Reaction pattern that the Planet has been stuck in.
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Hi Rock

"I often think of the story, about our scientists who can “prove” that bumblebees cannot fly."

A model doesn't guarantee that is a sound model.

Phil Plait has a model of how the moon spins. Grant has a model explaining the error in Phil's model plus his own model of how the moon doesn't spin.


The model I present is inarguable because it is based soley on the moon's orbit and assigning any values to any suspected influence(s) on the moon , then plotting those influences per the moon's locations throughout its cycles of orbits.

The model as presented is self explanatory. The model as presented disproves the reigning theories of how the moon was captured and what is postulated about what influences the moon.

That's why any explanation utilizing my model will be indisputable. That is why Phil and other great minds are stumped when asked to relate their theories to my model.


I simply offer a common sense tool in which to prove what is postulated.

Thanks again for allowing me to expound on the subject.

LS
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Hi Lisa!! Thanx again for your contributions.



Hi 122933!! Thanx for the comments!

122933, your comments are reasonable.

You and I have a different definition of “Second Coming”.
- The “Second Coming” to which I refer is the “reappearance” of Christ.
- Your observation of a shift in consciousness that you call a “Second Coming”, does not conflict with my claims. I also predict a change in consciousness, when the truth about Jesus and the Bible is eventually understood.



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Greetings everyone!!



ALBERT EINSTEIN: THE FRAUD

In preparation for the “Technology Age”, TPTB engaged massive programs to deceive us about science.

Albert Einstein was selected to lead Physics in the wrong direction. Einstein wrote theories so stupid, that one would think that his brain consisted of “one stone”. Yet, Einstein is hailed as a “genius”. Remarkable.

Many people accuse Einstein of plagiarism. Just Google “Einstein hoax” for a list. But this post is a more serious charge than just “plagiarism”.



NATURE OF LIGHT

In the late 1800’s, physicists were in general agreement that light was a wave in a medium. The speed of light was constant regardless of the speed of the source emitting the light. This characteristic is identical to the properties of sound, a wave through the medium of air.

Sound wave example. There is a car traveling 50 mph. There is a gun in the car. When the car passes a gun on the ground next to the road, the guns are fired simultaneously at a target. Result: The bullet from the car will reach the target slightly before the bullet shot from the stationary position, due to the additional 50 mph of speed imparted by the car; however, the sound from both guns will reach the target at the same time.



AETHER

No one can see the medium through which light passes. Late 1800’s physicists called the medium “aether” (sometimes just “ether”).

There was a nagging problem with the concept of “aether”. Late 1800’s physicists predicted the existence of “aether drift” caused by the movement of the earth through the sun’s aether, but experiments repeatedly failed to show the existence of aether drift. IMHO, the physicists were conducting their experiments in the wrong environment: within the atmosphere of the earth. In other words, to truly measure aether drift, the physicists would have required the ability to conduct these experiments from outside the earth’s atmosphere.



SPEED OF LIGHT

Einstein’s claim that the speed of light defines the upper limits on speed, is ridiculous.

There is no light in space. Energy from the sun does not travel through space as light, but as electromagnetic waves. Light is result of the INTERFERENCE of these electromagnetic waves with matter. In other words, the speed of light is the speed of the electromagnetic waves AFTER the waves have been slowed down by matter. Energy from the sun does NOT take minutes to reach the earth.



TIME AS A RELATIVE VARIABLE

Einstein’s most ridiculous claim: that time was “relative”. What total bullshit.

An important foundation under which Einstein made this outrageous claim, was that light was not a wave in a medium. So, Einstein’s “conclusion”: time must collapse on itself. This moronic notion is taught at universities and hailed as one of the greatest “discoveries” ever.



WHY ARE TPTB LYING ABOUT SCIENCE?

Answer: TPTB lie about science for the same reason that they have FREQUENTLY lied about science (e.g. flat earth, earth as the center of the solar system, gravity, black holes, etc.): to keep the masses misinformed and looking in the wrong direction for answers.

TPTB do NOT want the masses to know what they’re doing. Deceptions such as Albert Einstein, keep eyes focused on the WRONG information.

The deceptions of Albert Einstein played a key role in the hoax known as the “atomic bomb”. Scientists used Einstein’s bullshit to “predict” massive explosive power from “splitting the atom”. TPTB used this bullshit to “explain” the explosions at Nagasaki and Hiroshima, covering up the REAL reason for the explosions: Tesla’s resonating wave device.



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Rock
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