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Timelines To A Global Reset 2016-2017

 
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NPorou, why don’t you explain why you tried to mislead by posting interview from a compromised Wingmaker website???
Are you into the disinfo business as well?

And the other shitheads, stop attacking the grieving lady!!!
Not nice.
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Well, the WingMakers were alluded to in many UFO/Alien/alternative websites and I am sure serious readers had come across them somewhere.
But after the so called fizzling about post 21Dec, 2012 most people forgot about them.

As for the pug nose Chinese alien hybrids, they must be connected to the Dropa stone discs controversy.

Many years ago, there were many websites pertaining to the Dropa stones but most have disppeared. Als the wikipedia entries have greatly been shortened or reduced.

Mysterious hands at work I believe.
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It fizzed because James was killed. and then some like his webmaster sold their souls.
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Well, the WingMakers were alluded to in many UFO/Alien/alternative websites and I am sure serious readers had come across them somewhere.
But after the so called fizzling about post 21Dec, 2012 most people forgot about them.

As for the pug nose Chinese alien hybrids, they must be connected to the Dropa stone discs controversy.

Many years ago, there were many websites pertaining to the Dropa stones but most have disppeared. Als the wikipedia entries have greatly been shortened or reduced.

Mysterious hands at work I believe.
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I think you meant snub nose?
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Well, the WingMakers were alluded to in many UFO/Alien/alternative websites and I am sure serious readers had come across them somewhere.
But after the so called fizzling about post 21Dec, 2012 most people forgot about them.

As for the pug nose Chinese alien hybrids, they must be connected to the Dropa stone discs controversy.

Many years ago, there were many websites pertaining to the Dropa stones but most have disppeared. Als the wikipedia entries have greatly been shortened or reduced.

Mysterious hands at work I believe.
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I think you meant snub nose?
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[link to godssecret.wordpress.com (secure)]
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No, the OP understood the effect of the Jesuits’ influence on the Ming & Ching timelines in a different way. However the misuse of the time travel technology was a serious concern.

The “ esoteric aspect “ of the promulgated times of global reset 2016-2017 was to disperse the projected 2018 Animus takeover. To a large extent, the reset was successful but as alluded to by some posters, the pushbacks were tremendous leading to somewhat of a stalemate.
The OP originally did not know of the Neruda materials as it was but he sensed that there were forces working on some sort of undertaking as Dr. Neruda, Fifteen, Labyrinth Group etc. Some of his overseas contacts mentioned them to him and he advised us to keep them in mind. However he was ambivalent about those undertakings as they were overwhelmingly intellectual. The OP was advocating a soul based endeavour leading back to the spirit .

Various groups are inspired to do as they sensed fit. However because of egos, nationalism, racist supremacy etc sometimes their work do make matters worse before some wise up and see the big picture.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77348390


I think you are mistaken in assuming that readers here ever bothered to research into Dr Neruda’s work. At most, a lot of them would just skim through the long article posted by N. Porou
The stuff about Animus, which was akin to what the OP warned about AI is most certainly lost on those who never bother to check up further on Neruda.
I am equally intrigued by the parallels between what the OP wrote and what Dr Neruda’s work.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78224562



The one mistakaken is you AND NP AND Mexico to be quoting "Dr Neradu" and "Sarah"off of a Wingmakers website that was HEAVILY "modified" in 2001 with MUCH of the ORIGINAL and AUTHENTIC interview that was between "Ann" and " Dr Anderson"

MANY parts were DELETED and ADDED.
The core messgae was ALSO changed from

BE SOVEREIGN

To:

"You need help from Animus"
(There was NO mention of "Animus" in ORIGINAL interviews)

AND

"Rely on 'GOOD ET" race to SAVE you
(Resulting in relinquishing of personal power --- Sovereignty)

And emphasis on Military involvement
(Original had NO connection)

Oh... And Castaneda was proved fraudulent YEEEEEARS ago
 Quoting: iota 78230595


Then pray, share the original!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78238165



I had actually tried to twice unsuccessfully

Here goes 3 rd attempt.

This site provides detailed explanation of changes along with link to site as it appeared originally

[link to www.wanttoknow.info (secure)]

There are also color coded PDF available to compare actual interviews (original vs changed)

Good resources here for those interested

I will also add that Wes Penre also wrote paper on this back in 2011. What was of particular interest and note was a part that closely resembles TAO's very early post of Nefarious Beings wishing to "steal" human code.

I'm not at computer with specific notes to quote but long time readers will know what I'm referring to
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NPorou, why don’t you explain why you tried to mislead by posting interview from a compromised Wingmaker website???
Are you into the disinfo business as well?

And the other shitheads, stop attacking the grieving lady!!!
Not nice.
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you remembered ... thank you hf
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No, the OP understood the effect of the Jesuits’ influence on the Ming & Ching timelines in a different way. However the misuse of the time travel technology was a serious concern.

The “ esoteric aspect “ of the promulgated times of global reset 2016-2017 was to disperse the projected 2018 Animus takeover. To a large extent, the reset was successful but as alluded to by some posters, the pushbacks were tremendous leading to somewhat of a stalemate.
The OP originally did not know of the Neruda materials as it was but he sensed that there were forces working on some sort of undertaking as Dr. Neruda, Fifteen, Labyrinth Group etc. Some of his overseas contacts mentioned them to him and he advised us to keep them in mind. However he was ambivalent about those undertakings as they were overwhelmingly intellectual. The OP was advocating a soul based endeavour leading back to the spirit .

Various groups are inspired to do as they sensed fit. However because of egos, nationalism, racist supremacy etc sometimes their work do make matters worse before some wise up and see the big picture.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77348390


I think you are mistaken in assuming that readers here ever bothered to research into Dr Neruda’s work. At most, a lot of them would just skim through the long article posted by N. Porou
The stuff about Animus, which was akin to what the OP warned about AI is most certainly lost on those who never bother to check up further on Neruda.
I am equally intrigued by the parallels between what the OP wrote and what Dr Neruda’s work.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78224562



The one mistakaken is you AND NP AND Mexico to be quoting "Dr Neradu" and "Sarah"off of a Wingmakers website that was HEAVILY "modified" in 2001 with MUCH of the ORIGINAL and AUTHENTIC interview that was between "Ann" and " Dr Anderson"

MANY parts were DELETED and ADDED.
The core messgae was ALSO changed from

BE SOVEREIGN

To:

"You need help from Animus"
(There was NO mention of "Animus" in ORIGINAL interviews)

AND

"Rely on 'GOOD ET" race to SAVE you
(Resulting in relinquishing of personal power --- Sovereignty)

And emphasis on Military involvement
(Original had NO connection)

Oh... And Castaneda was proved fraudulent YEEEEEARS ago
 Quoting: iota 78230595


So was Lobsang Rampa, Helena Blavasky, Billy Meier, Paul Twitchell, Joseph Smith, etc
And possibly your “Ann “ and “ Dr Anderson spock
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78078625



ALL is possibly so and likely as well as long as humans continue to "seek" external sources to validate or even inform when the journey we came here for was to search withIN and NOT externally.

it is the experience OF disappointment that eventually serves as a catalyst TO seek withIN

hf
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I think you are mistaken in assuming that readers here ever bothered to research into Dr Neruda’s work. At most, a lot of them would just skim through the long article posted by N. Porou
The stuff about Animus, which was akin to what the OP warned about AI is most certainly lost on those who never bother to check up further on Neruda.
I am equally intrigued by the parallels between what the OP wrote and what Dr Neruda’s work.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78224562



The one mistakaken is you AND NP AND Mexico to be quoting "Dr Neradu" and "Sarah"off of a Wingmakers website that was HEAVILY "modified" in 2001 with MUCH of the ORIGINAL and AUTHENTIC interview that was between "Ann" and " Dr Anderson"

MANY parts were DELETED and ADDED.
The core messgae was ALSO changed from

BE SOVEREIGN

To:

"You need help from Animus"
(There was NO mention of "Animus" in ORIGINAL interviews)

AND

"Rely on 'GOOD ET" race to SAVE you
(Resulting in relinquishing of personal power --- Sovereignty)

And emphasis on Military involvement
(Original had NO connection)

Oh... And Castaneda was proved fraudulent YEEEEEARS ago
 Quoting: iota 78230595


So was Lobsang Rampa, Helena Blavasky, Billy Meier, Paul Twitchell, Joseph Smith, etc
And possibly your “Ann “ and “ Dr Anderson spock
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78078625



ALL is possibly so and likely as well as long as humans continue to "seek" external sources to validate or even inform when the journey we came here for was to search withIN and NOT externally.

it is the experience OF disappointment that eventually serves as a catalyst TO seek withIN

hf
 Quoting: iota 72785365


have been trying unsuccessfully to post, either links or quotes seem to be unacceptable to GLP

at one point i was astonished that NP gave up SO easily when initially tasked in reposting a page, he took it as criticism, sad choice. encouragement or inspiration would have served better . I'm going to break up my post into smaller parcels to discover what is generating ban.

here is the link to the site as it originally appeared. the specific landing place is to information we are directed to read first by Anne. Anne was the pseudonym of the journalist contacted by Dr. Anderson, also a pseudonym, when he defected from the Labyrinth Group to tell the public of the discovery.

(sorry autoban for posting … it has an ending of .us after “wingmakers”)

In the link I provided at the above post are relayed the various changes/”additions” to the original interviews. A little sampling of which I will post here:

“The WingMakers on the original website clearly imply that the home of First Source is found deep within each one of us. No mention is ever made on the original site of the WingMakers being involved in military matters or being part of a Central Race from the center of the universe. The term Central Race was never even mentioned.

In the original interviews immediately below, Dr. Anderson expresses his belief that the WingMakers may actually be a future version of the ACIO's Labyrinth Group, a view which is expunged from the changed version.

Original interviews:

Anne: "Can you elaborate on the WingMakers and who you think they are or represent?"

Dr. Anderson: "I don't know who they are, but they represent themselves as human time travelers from the middle part of the 28th century. They could very well be the future version of the Labyrinth Group, or some other powerful organization."

The original interviews further comment:

Anne: "But if the WingMakers are so advanced technologically, why time capsules? Why not just appear one day and announce what ever it is they want to share? Why this game of hide and seek and hidden time capsules?"

Dr. Anderson: "Their motives are not clear. I think they planted these time capsules as their way to bring culture and technology from their time to ours. And they decided to do this by leaving behind these miraculous structures or time capsules that, once discovered, would lead people to a new philosophy or level of understanding. I think they're as interested in our philosophical outlook as our discovery of BST. Perhaps more so."

In the changed version of the above (note that Anne's name is changed to Sarah):

Sarah: "Back to the WingMakers for a moment, if they're so advanced technologically, why time capsules? Why not just appear one day and announce whatever it is they want to share? Why this game of hide and seek and hidden time capsules?"

Dr. Neruda: "Their motives are not clear. I think they left behind these time capsules as their way to bring culture and technology from their time to ours. We also believe that these sites represent a defensive weapon. A very sophisticated defensive weapon."

Again the emphasis in the changed interviews is on the WingMakers being involved in military matters, which is of prime importance to the ACIO on both the original and changed websites.

(end of quotes from link in response above)
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I think you are mistaken in assuming that readers here ever bothered to research into Dr Neruda’s work. At most, a lot of them would just skim through the long article posted by N. Porou
The stuff about Animus, which was akin to what the OP warned about AI is most certainly lost on those who never bother to check up further on Neruda.
I am equally intrigued by the parallels between what the OP wrote and what Dr Neruda’s work.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78224562



The one mistakaken is you AND NP AND Mexico to be quoting "Dr Neradu" and "Sarah"off of a Wingmakers website that was HEAVILY "modified" in 2001 with MUCH of the ORIGINAL and AUTHENTIC interview that was between "Ann" and " Dr Anderson"

MANY parts were DELETED and ADDED.
The core messgae was ALSO changed from

BE SOVEREIGN

To:

"You need help from Animus"
(There was NO mention of "Animus" in ORIGINAL interviews)

AND

"Rely on 'GOOD ET" race to SAVE you
(Resulting in relinquishing of personal power --- Sovereignty)

And emphasis on Military involvement
(Original had NO connection)

Oh... And Castaneda was proved fraudulent YEEEEEARS ago
 Quoting: iota 78230595


So was Lobsang Rampa, Helena Blavasky, Billy Meier, Paul Twitchell, Joseph Smith, etc
And possibly your “Ann “ and “ Dr Anderson spock
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78078625



ALL is possibly so and likely as well as long as humans continue to "seek" external sources to validate or even inform when the journey we came here for was to search withIN and NOT externally.

it is the experience OF disappointment that eventually serves as a catalyst TO seek withIN

hf
 Quoting: iota 72785365


2nd part:

But to see Interviews in full please visit and review the following PDF’s:

[link to www.wanttoknow.info (secure)]

[link to www.wanttoknow.info (secure)]

The changes were initiated when a man claiming to be the “originator” of the site (James) contacted the webmaster (Mark Hempel) and persuaded him to enact them.

It was James who “showed a lot of interest in Alice Bailey, Madame Blavatsky and the Great White Brotherhood. He was talking about Ascended Master in quite some length in his Q&A section, and gave references which seemed very odd to me when I read them.”

(quote from Wes Penre at this informative paper:

[link to wespenre.com (secure)]
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The one mistakaken is you AND NP AND Mexico to be quoting "Dr Neradu" and "Sarah"off of a Wingmakers website that was HEAVILY "modified" in 2001 with MUCH of the ORIGINAL and AUTHENTIC interview that was between "Ann" and " Dr Anderson"

MANY parts were DELETED and ADDED.
The core messgae was ALSO changed from

BE SOVEREIGN

To:

"You need help from Animus"
(There was NO mention of "Animus" in ORIGINAL interviews)

AND

"Rely on 'GOOD ET" race to SAVE you
(Resulting in relinquishing of personal power --- Sovereignty)

And emphasis on Military involvement
(Original had NO connection)

Oh... And Castaneda was proved fraudulent YEEEEEARS ago
 Quoting: iota 78230595


So was Lobsang Rampa, Helena Blavasky, Billy Meier, Paul Twitchell, Joseph Smith, etc
And possibly your “Ann “ and “ Dr Anderson spock
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78078625



ALL is possibly so and likely as well as long as humans continue to "seek" external sources to validate or even inform when the journey we came here for was to search withIN and NOT externally.

it is the experience OF disappointment that eventually serves as a catalyst TO seek withIN

hf
 Quoting: iota 72785365


2nd part:

But to see Interviews in full please visit and review the following PDF’s:

[link to www.wanttoknow.info (secure)]

[link to www.wanttoknow.info (secure)]

The changes were initiated when a man claiming to be the “originator” of the site (James) contacted the webmaster (Mark Hempel) and persuaded him to enact them.

It was James who “showed a lot of interest in Alice Bailey, Madame Blavatsky and the Great White Brotherhood. He was talking about Ascended Master in quite some length in his Q&A section, and gave references which seemed very odd to me when I read them.”

(quote from Wes Penre at this informative paper:

[link to wespenre.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72816272


part 3 of my response (iota)


Another interesting point about James is that he stated "In my dominant reality, I am known as Mahu Nahi."

Yet it is stated on both the original and changed website that "the leader of the Corteum mission to earth is called -- in English -- Mahunahi."

To many, this inferred, he was claiming to be the leader of the Corteum.

Of particular interest to me personally, and perhaps to long time readers of this thread, was the following passage in the original interview with Dr. Anderson (bolded by me):

“In the changed interviews (no equivalent in the original interviews):

Dr. Neruda: "The Animus desire to own this planet in order to own its genetics. As I've already mentioned, this is a synthetic race. A species that can clone itself and fabricate more and more of its population to serve the purpose of its colonization program. However, it desires more than the expansion of its empire. It desires to become a soul carrier -- something reserved for pure biological organisms. Synthetic organisms are not able to carry the higher frequencies of soul, which absolutely require an organic nervous system."

Sarah: "So they want a soul?"

Dr. Neruda: "They want to expand throughout the universe and develop their organic nature through genetic reengineering. They want to become soul carriers in order to achieve immortality. They also want to prove what they already believe, that they are superior to all other pure organics."
The original interviews talk about an alien race (called the animus in the changed interviews) which is from a galaxy 2.6 million light years away. In the changed interviews, the distance is changed to 37 million light years.

In the original interviews, the Corteum is described as coming from a planet 15,000 light years away. In the changed version, this number is changed to 15 million.

Why would someone go to the trouble of changing these distances if they were only "additions" to the story? Could it be that someone doesn't want us to look on star charts and figure out which solar systems and galaxies are involved?

Original interview:

Dr. Anderson: "Actually, we've tried our remote viewing technology on the WingMakers. It was one of the first things we tried. But we got nothing. In fact, it was the first time when our technology was completely ineffective. We assumed that the WingMakers had developed some form of security that prevented remote viewing. But we weren't sure."

Changed version:

Dr. Neruda: "The ACIO has a department that specializes in Remote Viewing technology, and within this department was a woman of unparalleled capability as an RV. She was assigned to the project as its RV, and she was a critical element in determining the identity and purpose of the WingMakers. ... She was able to make contact with the original planners of the Ancient Arrow site. Through these two RV sessions we were able to determine that the identity of the WingMakers was an ancient -- the most ancient -- race of humankind."

Yet the original interviews clearly state that the WingMakers are a future version of humanity. Dr. Anderson later states: "The WingMakers are the Labyrinth Group . . . only 750 years in the future." You will find this and related beliefs edited out on numerous occasions in the new version. And why change the remote viewing from "completely ineffective" to "a critical element in determining the identity and purpose of the Wingmakers"?
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So was Lobsang Rampa, Helena Blavasky, Billy Meier, Paul Twitchell, Joseph Smith, etc
And possibly your “Ann “ and “ Dr Anderson spock
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ALL is possibly so and likely as well as long as humans continue to "seek" external sources to validate or even inform when the journey we came here for was to search withIN and NOT externally.

it is the experience OF disappointment that eventually serves as a catalyst TO seek withIN

hf
 Quoting: iota 72785365


2nd part:

But to see Interviews in full please visit and review the following PDF’s:

[link to www.wanttoknow.info (secure)]

[link to www.wanttoknow.info (secure)]

The changes were initiated when a man claiming to be the “originator” of the site (James) contacted the webmaster (Mark Hempel) and persuaded him to enact them.

It was James who “showed a lot of interest in Alice Bailey, Madame Blavatsky and the Great White Brotherhood. He was talking about Ascended Master in quite some length in his Q&A section, and gave references which seemed very odd to me when I read them.”

(quote from Wes Penre at this informative paper:

[link to wespenre.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72816272


part 3 of my response (iota)


Another interesting point about James is that he stated "In my dominant reality, I am known as Mahu Nahi."

Yet it is stated on both the original and changed website that "the leader of the Corteum mission to earth is called -- in English -- Mahunahi."

To many, this inferred, he was claiming to be the leader of the Corteum.

Of particular interest to me personally, and perhaps to long time readers of this thread, was the following passage in the original interview with Dr. Anderson (bolded by me):

“In the changed interviews (no equivalent in the original interviews):

Dr. Neruda: "The Animus desire to own this planet in order to own its genetics. As I've already mentioned, this is a synthetic race. A species that can clone itself and fabricate more and more of its population to serve the purpose of its colonization program. However, it desires more than the expansion of its empire. It desires to become a soul carrier -- something reserved for pure biological organisms. Synthetic organisms are not able to carry the higher frequencies of soul, which absolutely require an organic nervous system."

Sarah: "So they want a soul?"

Dr. Neruda: "They want to expand throughout the universe and develop their organic nature through genetic reengineering. They want to become soul carriers in order to achieve immortality. They also want to prove what they already believe, that they are superior to all other pure organics."

The original interviews talk about an alien race (called the animus in the changed interviews) which is from a galaxy 2.6 million light years away.

In the changed interviews, the distance is changed to 37 million light years.

In the original interviews, the Corteum is described as coming from a planet 15,000 light years away. In the changed version, this number is changed to 15 million.

Why would someone go to the trouble of changing these distances if they were only "additions" to the story? Could it be that someone doesn't want us to look on star charts and figure out which solar systems and galaxies are involved?

Original interview:

Dr. Anderson: "Actually, we've tried our remote viewing technology on the WingMakers. It was one of the first things we tried. But we got nothing. In fact, it was the first time when our technology was completely ineffective. We assumed that the WingMakers had developed some form of security that prevented remote viewing. But we weren't sure."

Changed version:

Dr. Neruda: "The ACIO has a department that specializes in Remote Viewing technology, and within this department was a woman of unparalleled capability as an RV. She was assigned to the project as its RV, and she was a critical element in determining the identity and purpose of the WingMakers. ... She was able to make contact with the original planners of the Ancient Arrow site. Through these two RV sessions we were able to determine that the identity of the WingMakers was an ancient -- the most ancient -- race of humankind."

Yet the original interviews clearly state that the WingMakers are a future version of humanity. Dr. Anderson later states: "The WingMakers are the Labyrinth Group . . . only 750 years in the future." You will find this and related beliefs edited out on numerous occasions in the new version. And why change the remote viewing from "completely ineffective" to "a critical element in determining the identity and purpose of the Wingmakers"?
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Part 4 of my response (iota) parts above bolded by me

This same concept was specifically cited by the TAO in response to questions at the onset of this thread. I would have to go through my archives to find the specific reference but long time readers should remember. It was particularly vexing for me to have drips of information that were not fully explained dropped as crumbs. Crumbs are fine when there are trails one can follow but not in dead ends or in lengthy (look HOW far fetched this particular connection was!) and almost impossible to find.

At the time, I begged the elders who had been entrusted with information to divulge the information he had left for us to no avail.

As an observation, IF this was authentic AND prevailed (the attempt to create BST? THEN it is as plausible explanation as ANY for the Mandela Effects many of US have experienced

Also, the "Path" by a MULTITUDE of names, dogmas and methods IS:

Sovereignty
FIND YOUR WAY BACK to YOU

There was a CLEAR "tell" sign even in the elders of this thread that betrayed CLEAR lack of achievement in this area

And that was ability to BE "triggered"

BEING Triggered simply means there remains something yet UNhealed that is coming up for the EXPRESS purpose to provide opportunity TO HEAL IT

that goes for ALL of us

EACH day i examine what YET remains UNhealed within me AND i address it ... sometimes in layers

a laborious, and tedious task that requires commitment and dedication ... but there it is ...

hints here were concern with the "the imnperial west" and HUGE hatred (judgment)

WTH??

Seriously??

WHY are you here seeking information on "Ascending"? Enlightment? or whatever purpose you have in being here when a SUPER ELEMENTARY

and i mean BASIC tenant (lesson)

has YET to be mastered by you?

another is the NEED to be validated

IF ANY of our actions NEED to be approved of?
agreed with?
accepted by another?

well ... same question applies

we CAN waste MUCH time in searching
ALL would agree that to BE "successful" IN the Search?
it would be of GREAT help to actually look WHERE the answers CAN be found

that would be
withIN

NOT ANYWHERE ELSE
period
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I think you are mistaken in assuming that readers here ever bothered to research into Dr Neruda’s work. At most, a lot of them would just skim through the long article posted by N. Porou
The stuff about Animus, which was akin to what the OP warned about AI is most certainly lost on those who never bother to check up further on Neruda.
I am equally intrigued by the parallels between what the OP wrote and what Dr Neruda’s work.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78224562



The one mistakaken is you AND NP AND Mexico to be quoting "Dr Neradu" and "Sarah"off of a Wingmakers website that was HEAVILY "modified" in 2001 with MUCH of the ORIGINAL and AUTHENTIC interview that was between "Ann" and " Dr Anderson"

MANY parts were DELETED and ADDED.
The core messgae was ALSO changed from

BE SOVEREIGN

To:

"You need help from Animus"
(There was NO mention of "Animus" in ORIGINAL interviews)

AND

"Rely on 'GOOD ET" race to SAVE you
(Resulting in relinquishing of personal power --- Sovereignty)

And emphasis on Military involvement
(Original had NO connection)

Oh... And Castaneda was proved fraudulent YEEEEEARS ago
 Quoting: iota 78230595


Then pray, share the original!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78238165



I had actually tried to twice unsuccessfully

Here goes 3 rd attempt.

This site provides detailed explanation of changes along with link to site as it appeared originally

[link to www.wanttoknow.info (secure)]

There are also color coded PDF available to compare actual interviews (original vs changed)

Good resources here for those interested

I will also add that Wes Penre also wrote paper on this back in 2011. What was of particular interest and note was a part that closely resembles TAO's very early post of Nefarious Beings wishing to "steal" human code.

I'm not at computer with specific notes to quote but long time readers will know what I'm referring to
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ALREADY POSTED. NOTHING NEW. SAD
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Fishing, phishing, mining for sympathy
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I think you are mistaken in assuming that readers here ever bothered to research into Dr Neruda’s work. At most, a lot of them would just skim through the long article posted by N. Porou
The stuff about Animus, which was akin to what the OP warned about AI is most certainly lost on those who never bother to check up further on Neruda.
I am equally intrigued by the parallels between what the OP wrote and what Dr Neruda’s work.
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The one mistakaken is you AND NP AND Mexico to be quoting "Dr Neradu" and "Sarah"off of a Wingmakers website that was HEAVILY "modified" in 2001 with MUCH of the ORIGINAL and AUTHENTIC interview that was between "Ann" and " Dr Anderson"

MANY parts were DELETED and ADDED.
The core messgae was ALSO changed from

BE SOVEREIGN

To:

"You need help from Animus"
(There was NO mention of "Animus" in ORIGINAL interviews)

AND

"Rely on 'GOOD ET" race to SAVE you
(Resulting in relinquishing of personal power --- Sovereignty)

And emphasis on Military involvement
(Original had NO connection)

Oh... And Castaneda was proved fraudulent YEEEEEARS ago
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Then pray, share the original!
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I had actually tried to twice unsuccessfully

Here goes 3 rd attempt.

This site provides detailed explanation of changes along with link to site as it appeared originally

[link to www.wanttoknow.info (secure)]

There are also color coded PDF available to compare actual interviews (original vs changed)

Good resources here for those interested

I will also add that Wes Penre also wrote paper on this back in 2011. What was of particular interest and note was a part that closely resembles TAO's very early post of Nefarious Beings wishing to "steal" human code.

I'm not at computer with specific notes to quote but long time readers will know what I'm referring to
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Yea, the Chinaman put it simply that way without the complicated razzmatazz of Dr Anderson/Neruda!
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I do remember of a few posts where the WingMakers were mentioned much much earlier in the thread. However during the heated period in 2016 where there were so many abusive posts, and subsequent bans imposed by GLP, the posts were removed or deleted.
Unfortunately I dod not archived those.
There was a post by the OP about ugly Chinese pug nose descendants of Aliens who were massacred by the Lama regime with their Ham tribal cohorts. That too was removed.
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Chicom nawnsense
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ALL is possibly so and likely as well as long as humans continue to "seek" external sources to validate or even inform when the journey we came here for was to search withIN and NOT externally.

it is the experience OF disappointment that eventually serves as a catalyst TO seek withIN

hf
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2nd part:

But to see Interviews in full please visit and review the following PDF’s:

[link to www.wanttoknow.info (secure)]

[link to www.wanttoknow.info (secure)]

The changes were initiated when a man claiming to be the “originator” of the site (James) contacted the webmaster (Mark Hempel) and persuaded him to enact them.

It was James who “showed a lot of interest in Alice Bailey, Madame Blavatsky and the Great White Brotherhood. He was talking about Ascended Master in quite some length in his Q&A section, and gave references which seemed very odd to me when I read them.”

(quote from Wes Penre at this informative paper:

[link to wespenre.com (secure)]
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part 3 of my response (iota)


Another interesting point about James is that he stated "In my dominant reality, I am known as Mahu Nahi."

Yet it is stated on both the original and changed website that "the leader of the Corteum mission to earth is called -- in English -- Mahunahi."

To many, this inferred, he was claiming to be the leader of the Corteum.

Of particular interest to me personally, and perhaps to long time readers of this thread, was the following passage in the original interview with Dr. Anderson (bolded by me):

“In the changed interviews (no equivalent in the original interviews):

Dr. Neruda: "The Animus desire to own this planet in order to own its genetics. As I've already mentioned, this is a synthetic race. A species that can clone itself and fabricate more and more of its population to serve the purpose of its colonization program. However, it desires more than the expansion of its empire. It desires to become a soul carrier -- something reserved for pure biological organisms. Synthetic organisms are not able to carry the higher frequencies of soul, which absolutely require an organic nervous system."

Sarah: "So they want a soul?"

Dr. Neruda: "They want to expand throughout the universe and develop their organic nature through genetic reengineering. They want to become soul carriers in order to achieve immortality. They also want to prove what they already believe, that they are superior to all other pure organics."

The original interviews talk about an alien race (called the animus in the changed interviews) which is from a galaxy 2.6 million light years away.

In the changed interviews, the distance is changed to 37 million light years.

In the original interviews, the Corteum is described as coming from a planet 15,000 light years away. In the changed version, this number is changed to 15 million.

Why would someone go to the trouble of changing these distances if they were only "additions" to the story? Could it be that someone doesn't want us to look on star charts and figure out which solar systems and galaxies are involved?

Original interview:

Dr. Anderson: "Actually, we've tried our remote viewing technology on the WingMakers. It was one of the first things we tried. But we got nothing. In fact, it was the first time when our technology was completely ineffective. We assumed that the WingMakers had developed some form of security that prevented remote viewing. But we weren't sure."

Changed version:

Dr. Neruda: "The ACIO has a department that specializes in Remote Viewing technology, and within this department was a woman of unparalleled capability as an RV. She was assigned to the project as its RV, and she was a critical element in determining the identity and purpose of the WingMakers. ... She was able to make contact with the original planners of the Ancient Arrow site. Through these two RV sessions we were able to determine that the identity of the WingMakers was an ancient -- the most ancient -- race of humankind."

Yet the original interviews clearly state that the WingMakers are a future version of humanity. Dr. Anderson later states: "The WingMakers are the Labyrinth Group . . . only 750 years in the future." You will find this and related beliefs edited out on numerous occasions in the new version. And why change the remote viewing from "completely ineffective" to "a critical element in determining the identity and purpose of the Wingmakers"?
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Part 4 of my response (iota) parts above bolded by me

This same concept was specifically cited by the TAO in response to questions at the onset of this thread. I would have to go through my archives to find the specific reference but long time readers should remember. It was particularly vexing for me to have drips of information that were not fully explained dropped as crumbs. Crumbs are fine when there are trails one can follow but not in dead ends or in lengthy (look HOW far fetched this particular connection was!) and almost impossible to find.

At the time, I begged the elders who had been entrusted with information to divulge the information he had left for us to no avail.

As an observation, IF this was authentic AND prevailed (the attempt to create BST? THEN it is as plausible explanation as ANY for the Mandela Effects many of US have experienced

Also, the "Path" by a MULTITUDE of names, dogmas and methods IS:

Sovereignty
FIND YOUR WAY BACK to YOU

There was a CLEAR "tell" sign even in the elders of this thread that betrayed CLEAR lack of achievement in this area

And that was ability to BE "triggered"

BEING Triggered simply means there remains something yet UNhealed that is coming up for the EXPRESS purpose to provide opportunity TO HEAL IT

that goes for ALL of us

EACH day i examine what YET remains UNhealed within me AND i address it ... sometimes in layers

a laborious, and tedious task that requires commitment and dedication ... but there it is ...

hints here were concern with the "the imnperial west" and HUGE hatred (judgment)

WTH??

Seriously??

WHY are you here seeking information on "Ascending"? Enlightment? or whatever purpose you have in being here when a SUPER ELEMENTARY

and i mean BASIC tenant (lesson)

has YET to be mastered by you?

another is the NEED to be validated

IF ANY of our actions NEED to be approved of?
agreed with?
accepted by another?

well ... same question applies

we CAN waste MUCH time in searching
ALL would agree that to BE "successful" IN the Search?
it would be of GREAT help to actually look WHERE the answers CAN be found

that would be
withIN

NOT ANYWHERE ELSE
period
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Goofy Thum
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The one mistakaken is you AND NP AND Mexico to be quoting "Dr Neradu" and "Sarah"off of a Wingmakers website that was HEAVILY "modified" in 2001 with MUCH of the ORIGINAL and AUTHENTIC interview that was between "Ann" and " Dr Anderson"

MANY parts were DELETED and ADDED.
The core messgae was ALSO changed from

BE SOVEREIGN

To:

"You need help from Animus"
(There was NO mention of "Animus" in ORIGINAL interviews)

AND

"Rely on 'GOOD ET" race to SAVE you
(Resulting in relinquishing of personal power --- Sovereignty)

And emphasis on Military involvement
(Original had NO connection)

Oh... And Castaneda was proved fraudulent YEEEEEARS ago
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So was Lobsang Rampa, Helena Blavasky, Billy Meier, Paul Twitchell, Joseph Smith, etc
And possibly your “Ann “ and “ Dr Anderson spock
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ALL is possibly so and likely as well as long as humans continue to "seek" external sources to validate or even inform when the journey we came here for was to search withIN and NOT externally.

it is the experience OF disappointment that eventually serves as a catalyst TO seek withIN

hf
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have been trying unsuccessfully to post, either links or quotes seem to be unacceptable to GLP

at one point i was astonished that NP gave up SO easily when initially tasked in reposting a page, he took it as criticism, sad choice. encouragement or inspiration would have served better . I'm going to break up my post into smaller parcels to discover what is generating ban.

here is the link to the site as it originally appeared. the specific landing place is to information we are directed to read first by Anne. Anne was the pseudonym of the journalist contacted by Dr. Anderson, also a pseudonym, when he defected from the Labyrinth Group to tell the public of the discovery.

(sorry autoban for posting … it has an ending of .us after “wingmakers”)

In the link I provided at the above post are relayed the various changes/”additions” to the original interviews. A little sampling of which I will post here:

“The WingMakers on the original website clearly imply that the home of First Source is found deep within each one of us. No mention is ever made on the original site of the WingMakers being involved in military matters or being part of a Central Race from the center of the universe. The term Central Race was never even mentioned.

In the original interviews immediately below, Dr. Anderson expresses his belief that the WingMakers may actually be a future version of the ACIO's Labyrinth Group, a view which is expunged from the changed version.

Original interviews:

Anne: "Can you elaborate on the WingMakers and who you think they are or represent?"

Dr. Anderson: "I don't know who they are, but they represent themselves as human time travelers from the middle part of the 28th century. They could very well be the future version of the Labyrinth Group, or some other powerful organization."

The original interviews further comment:

Anne: "But if the WingMakers are so advanced technologically, why time capsules? Why not just appear one day and announce what ever it is they want to share? Why this game of hide and seek and hidden time capsules?"

Dr. Anderson: "Their motives are not clear. I think they planted these time capsules as their way to bring culture and technology from their time to ours. And they decided to do this by leaving behind these miraculous structures or time capsules that, once discovered, would lead people to a new philosophy or level of understanding. I think they're as interested in our philosophical outlook as our discovery of BST. Perhaps more so."

In the changed version of the above (note that Anne's name is changed to Sarah):

Sarah: "Back to the WingMakers for a moment, if they're so advanced technologically, why time capsules? Why not just appear one day and announce whatever it is they want to share? Why this game of hide and seek and hidden time capsules?"

Dr. Neruda: "Their motives are not clear. I think they left behind these time capsules as their way to bring culture and technology from their time to ours. We also believe that these sites represent a defensive weapon. A very sophisticated defensive weapon."

Again the emphasis in the changed interviews is on the WingMakers being involved in military matters, which is of prime importance to the ACIO on both the original and changed websites.

(end of quotes from link in response above)
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Looks like NP or his elders wants us to stew for awhile angryface
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More like playing fucking games!
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Beloved Readers,

How are you doing with this intense energy?? It truly does feel as if we are under intense pressure now to BE our authentic selves. It no longer serves us to keep doing what we’ve been doing just to basically keep ourselves going. This energy is all about GROWING and EXPANSION. We are having to push ourselves BEYOND our boundaries and really take that leap of faith into the unknown, all the while knowing our Greater aspect of Self has our back (which means your best interests at Heart).

When you think of yourselves as PURE Consciousness and move your perspective of Self beyond the boundary of the physical body (which doesn’t even begin to contain Consciousness, simply because its too small!!) then you are on your way to knowing yourself as a Greater Being – a Light Being.

This is where we’re headed in this now – to BEcome our authentic Self. So what does this mean exactly? It means to be present, to be mindful of where we’re at – meaning at what level of vibration we’re emitting out into the Universe, and it means becoming conscious creators within the greater aspect of our Being. It means to surrender in total Trust (with a capital T) that all is well and you will be guided without a doubt, as to where to go from here. It means to plug into the higher aspects of your Self in order to receive that guidance, and to move without fear, with trepidation, into the unknown.

Can we do this? YES YES YES we can!!!

Beloveds, for so very long we’ve been moving along on our own steam, trying to make things work, struggling to stay ‘above board’ so we don’t fall into the churning sea that is in evidence all around us. We can only make this transition/shift now by becoming our authentic selves and truly just letting go and surrendering.

I believe this with all my heart. It is certainly the message I am receiving loud of clear! With all birth comes some discomfort, so if you are feeling a little out of your comfort zone, please do be assured that all is well. The best you can do for yourself right now is to stay HIGH – stay positive and keep your vibes HIGH. I’m sharing with you some early morning affirmations to help you to start your day on a high:

I fill my day with love and miracles
I fill my day with smiles and happiness
I fill my day with blessings
I fill my day with happy surprises
I fill my day with more and more love and miracles
I fill my day with the richest of blessings
I fill my day with grace and gratitude
I fill my day with wonderful new friends and happy relationships
I fill my day with wonderful new opportunities to express the true nature of my being
I fill my day with all that is enriching and enlivening
I fill my day with all that is phenomenal
I fill my day with exuberance

*

I love you. WE love you and we are always here to support you in your journey of awakening.

Namasté
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More like playing fucking games!
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Have you given a thought that he might’ve been banned due to some of the posts?
Or contents not allowed to be posted?
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Looks like yanks are carpet bombing this thread!

I think the Neruda stuff was correct. The chap was South Anerican and used the white pseudonym Anderson.
James was the Anglicised firm of Jamisson
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How many years is this failed thread going to be bumped? This thread failed nearly 2 years ago.
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Now we are all guilty of pissing this brit off for bumping this thread!
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Looks like yanks are carpet bombing this thread!

I think the Neruda stuff was correct. The chap was South Anerican and used the white pseudonym Anderson.
James was the Anglicised firm of Jamisson
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Maybe new tactic by chicongo daoist or gal pal gl???
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Nathan Rich’s absolutely right! What a hatchet job by 60 minutes Australia!
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I think the Neruda stuff was correct. The chap was South Anerican and used the white pseudonym Anderson.
James was the Anglicised firm of Jamisson
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Beloved Readers,

How are you doing with this intense energy?? It truly does feel as if we are under intense pressure now to BE our authentic selves. It no longer serves us to keep doing what we’ve been doing just to basically keep ourselves going. This energy is all about GROWING and EXPANSION. We are having to push ourselves BEYOND our boundaries and really take that leap of faith into the unknown, all the while knowing our Greater aspect of Self has our back (which means your best interests at Heart).

When you think of yourselves as PURE Consciousness and move your perspective of Self beyond the boundary of the physical body (which doesn’t even begin to contain Consciousness, simply because its too small!!) then you are on your way to knowing yourself as a Greater Being – a Light Being.

This is where we’re headed in this now – to BEcome our authentic Self. So what does this mean exactly? It means to be present, to be mindful of where we’re at – meaning at what level of vibration we’re emitting out into the Universe, and it means becoming conscious creators within the greater aspect of our Being. It means to surrender in total Trust (with a capital T) that all is well and you will be guided without a doubt, as to where to go from here. It means to plug into the higher aspects of your Self in order to receive that guidance, and to move without fear, with trepidation, into the unknown.

Can we do this? YES YES YES we can!!!

Beloveds, for so very long we’ve been moving along on our own steam, trying to make things work, struggling to stay ‘above board’ so we don’t fall into the churning sea that is in evidence all around us. We can only make this transition/shift now by becoming our authentic selves and truly just letting go and surrendering.

I believe this with all my heart. It is certainly the message I am receiving loud of clear! With all birth comes some discomfort, so if you are feeling a little out of your comfort zone, please do be assured that all is well. The best you can do for yourself right now is to stay HIGH – stay positive and keep your vibes HIGH. I’m sharing with you some early morning affirmations to help you to start your day on a high:

I fill my day with love and miracles
I fill my day with smiles and happiness
I fill my day with blessings
I fill my day with happy surprises
I fill my day with more and more love and miracles
I fill my day with the richest of blessings
I fill my day with grace and gratitude
I fill my day with wonderful new friends and happy relationships
I fill my day with wonderful new opportunities to express the true nature of my being
I fill my day with all that is enriching and enlivening
I fill my day with all that is phenomenal
I fill my day with exuberance

*

I love you. WE love you and we are always here to support you in your journey of awakening.

Namasté
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This is nice.. was it written here or should the linky have been posted?





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