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Saudi's On The Move

 
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Pretty convincing thread...

However isn't part 91 private and part 125 commercial? I know within the commercial/for hire there are parts 121, 125 and 135 which relate to different commercial activities for Airlines but that only part 91 relates to general or private aviation
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When oil carshes, false flags ensue by the dozens...
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They're returning from the Eid Holliday. The holiday was from the 2nd to the 12th of Oct. Trying to find commercial air flight out of here or returning is next to impossible. It looks as though your company made a backdoor deal to capitalize on the lack of commercial flight availability. No doom here I'm afraid.
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They don't leave Saudi for Eid. They leave KSA for the Haj. Before and at the end of July we could barely get a parking spot at LAX because of all the private jets carrying Saudis trying to get away from the Haj or return to the Kingdom when it ended.

The company I work for makes billions of dollars a day. Don't think they are worried about making a few beans off expat Sauds.

Never said anything about doom. I said it was highly unusual that our company has us schlepping Saudi families halfway around the world when Obama could not ride on our a/c if he wanted to.
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Trust me. They leave for Eid. I couldn't find a plane ticket out of here to Dubai even. I sat here for the 10 day holiday wishing I was somewhere else. The citizens of the GCC make a mass exidous during ALL Muslim holidays.. Both Eids, Ramadan and about 10 other yearly Holidays.
And no Saudi Air Bases are not all that secure and locked down like American Air bases. I can definitely see them allowing citizens to land as the commercial airports are booked to the max. And as I'm sure your airline is in the business of making money and not flying for charity I don't see why they wouldn't fly a few Saudis home for the right price. Especially if they needed the planes here anyway to pick up other passangers.
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Take this for what it's worth. Draw your own conclusions. I'm just stating what's happening, not why it's happening.


Tomorrow morning we pick up our 3rd load of Saudi nationals at Atlantic Aviation at LAX airport.

This is extraordinary because we are an N-registered, private aircraft. We're owned/operated by an oil company. We ONLY carry our oil company exec's and VIP's, not Saudi families with no connection to our company.

We're also a Part 125 operator, strictly not for hire. Not sure if we're operating outside our charter or not.

Flights have been to Le Bourget in Paris. Some pax get off, some pax get on.

We fly them to Dhahran (OEDR) where we unload. We can't stay on the air base so we have to reposition the aircraft to Dammam (OEDF), stay overnight in Dammam, then head back to the states by way of Shannon, Ireland for refuel.

Dhahran is unusual because it's a strictly controlled military air base in Saudi. We're dropping off civilians, not military personnel.

Not going to hypothesize why the taxi service, just not part of our normal job.

Not going to say which oil company or N number. Want to keep my job. We are a wide body, based in the US.
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The Saudis have their own jumbo jets. Why do they need a private company to fly them?
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They're returning from the Eid Holliday. The holiday was from the 2nd to the 12th of Oct. Trying to find commercial air flight out of here or returning is next to impossible. It looks as though your company made a backdoor deal to capitalize on the lack of commercial flight availability. No doom here I'm afraid.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63872848


They don't leave Saudi for Eid. They leave KSA for the Haj. Before and at the end of July we could barely get a parking spot at LAX because of all the private jets carrying Saudis trying to get away from the Haj or return to the Kingdom when it ended.

The company I work for makes billions of dollars a day. Don't think they are worried about making a few beans off expat Sauds.

Never said anything about doom. I said it was highly unusual that our company has us schlepping Saudi families halfway around the world when Obama could not ride on our a/c if he wanted to.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63655429


Trust me. They leave for Eid. I couldn't find a plane ticket out of here to Dubai even. I sat here for the 10 day holiday wishing I was somewhere else. The citizens of the GCC make a mass exidious during ALL Muslim holidays.. Both Eids, Ramadan and about 10 other yearly Holidays.
And no Saudi Air Bases are not all that secure and locked down like American Air bases. I can definitely see them allowing citizens to land as the commercial airports are booked to the max. And as I'm sure your airline is in the business of making money and not flying for charity I don't see why they wouldn't fly a few Saudis home for the right price. Especially if they needed the planes here anyway to pick up other passangers.
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I'm going to go out on a limb here and say you're with World Air
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They're returning from the Eid Holliday. The holiday was from the 2nd to the 12th of Oct. Trying to find commercial air flight out of here or returning is next to impossible. It looks as though your company made a backdoor deal to capitalize on the lack of commercial flight availability. No doom here I'm afraid.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63872848


They don't leave Saudi for Eid. They leave KSA for the Haj. Before and at the end of July we could barely get a parking spot at LAX because of all the private jets carrying Saudis trying to get away from the Haj or return to the Kingdom when it ended.

The company I work for makes billions of dollars a day. Don't think they are worried about making a few beans off expat Sauds.

Never said anything about doom. I said it was highly unusual that our company has us schlepping Saudi families halfway around the world when Obama could not ride on our a/c if he wanted to.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63655429


Trust me. They leave for Eid. I couldn't find a plane ticket out of here to Dubai even. I sat here for the 10 day holiday wishing I was somewhere else. The citizens of the GCC make a mass exidious during ALL Muslim holidays.. Both Eids, Ramadan and about 10 other yearly Holidays.
And no Saudi Air Bases are not all that secure and locked down like American Air bases. I can definitely see them allowing citizens to land as the commercial airports are booked to the max. And as I'm sure your airline is in the business of making money and not flying for charity I don't see why they wouldn't fly a few Saudis home for the right price. Especially if they needed the planes here anyway to pick up other passangers.
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I'm going to go out on a limb here and say you're with World Air
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They're returning from the Eid Holliday. The holiday was from the 2nd to the 12th of Oct. Trying to find commercial air flight out of here or returning is next to impossible. It looks as though your company made a backdoor deal to capitalize on the lack of commercial flight availability. No doom here I'm afraid.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63872848


They don't leave Saudi for Eid. They leave KSA for the Haj. Before and at the end of July we could barely get a parking spot at LAX because of all the private jets carrying Saudis trying to get away from the Haj or return to the Kingdom when it ended.

The company I work for makes billions of dollars a day. Don't think they are worried about making a few beans off expat Sauds.

Never said anything about doom. I said it was highly unusual that our company has us schlepping Saudi families halfway around the world when Obama could not ride on our a/c if he wanted to.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63655429


Trust me. They leave for Eid. I couldn't find a plane ticket out of here to Dubai even. I sat here for the 10 day holiday wishing I was somewhere else. The citizens of the GCC make a mass exidious during ALL Muslim holidays.. Both Eids, Ramadan and about 10 other yearly Holidays.
And no Saudi Air Bases are not all that secure and locked down like American Air bases. I can definitely see them allowing citizens to land as the commercial airports are booked to the max. And as I'm sure your airline is in the business of making money and not flying for charity I don't see why they wouldn't fly a few Saudis home for the right price. Especially if they needed the planes here anyway to pick up other passangers.
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I'm going to go out on a limb here and say you're with World Air
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They're returning from the Eid Holliday. The holiday was from the 2nd to the 12th of Oct. Trying to find commercial air flight out of here or returning is next to impossible. It looks as though your company made a backdoor deal to capitalize on the lack of commercial flight availability. No doom here I'm afraid.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63872848


They don't leave Saudi for Eid. They leave KSA for the Haj. Before and at the end of July we could barely get a parking spot at LAX because of all the private jets carrying Saudis trying to get away from the Haj or return to the Kingdom when it ended.

The company I work for makes billions of dollars a day. Don't think they are worried about making a few beans off expat Sauds.

Never said anything about doom. I said it was highly unusual that our company has us schlepping Saudi families halfway around the world when Obama could not ride on our a/c if he wanted to.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63655429


Trust me. They leave for Eid. I couldn't find a plane ticket out of here to Dubai even. I sat here for the 10 day holiday wishing I was somewhere else. The citizens of the GCC make a mass exidious during ALL Muslim holidays.. Both Eids, Ramadan and about 10 other yearly Holidays.
And no Saudi Air Bases are not all that secure and locked down like American Air bases. I can definitely see them allowing citizens to land as the commercial airports are booked to the max. And as I'm sure your airline is in the business of making money and not flying for charity I don't see why they wouldn't fly a few Saudis home for the right price. Especially if they needed the planes here anyway to pick up other passangers.
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I'm going to go out on a limb here and say you're with World Air
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Maybe they are all just flying back after the Mecca concert. I'm sure the Saudi 20 somethings all live in the U.S. and not at home with their parents. Just look for those spoiled brats on instagram...

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And leave Philippine helpers behind and carry bags by themselves. You are joking. Nice try
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Pretty convincing thread...

However isn't part 91 private and part 125 commercial? I know within the commercial/for hire there are parts 121, 125 and 135 which relate to different commercial activities for Airlines but that only part 91 relates to general or private aviation
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Doom on people's. There are too many things happening over this weekend.
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ohyeah
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Take this for what it's worth. Draw your own conclusions. I'm just stating what's happening, not why it's happening.


Tomorrow morning we pick up our 3rd load of Saudi nationals at Atlantic Aviation at LAX airport.

This is extraordinary because we are an N-registered, private aircraft. We're owned/operated by an oil company. We ONLY carry our oil company exec's and VIP's, not Saudi families with no connection to our company.

We're also a Part 125 operator, strictly not for hire. Not sure if we're operating outside our charter or not.

Flights have been to Le Bourget in Paris. Some pax get off, some pax get on.

We fly them to Dhahran (OEDR) where we unload. We can't stay on the air base so we have to reposition the aircraft to Dammam (OEDF), stay overnight in Dammam, then head back to the states by way of Shannon, Ireland for refuel.

Dhahran is unusual because it's a strictly controlled military air base in Saudi. We're dropping off civilians, not military personnel.

Not going to hypothesize why the taxi service, just not part of our normal job.

Not going to say which oil company or N number. Want to keep my job. We are a wide body, based in the US.
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5 stars! I find this credible, as I also work in the industry and the OP uses the language properly.
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Wrong. Saudi are USA puppets they have no balls to even think of FF, let alone do it

Something else
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Usa is not the puppeteer. Someone(s) are puling both USA's and Saudi's strings.
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Your perception of USA is fiction. You are not aware of real players, they come in different colours
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Curious.

How can you be sure they are not military?

Also, are they in good spirits or is there an ominous air in the cabin? - I know its tough to gauge but still.

When was the last flight?
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We departed LAX last Tuesday for ME. Families with children. No filipinos, sauds only.

People seem fine. Saudis are strange ducks anyway.

We're in LA tonight, leave again tomorrow.
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How long does it take you to ferry your pax from LAX to LBG?

and then how long from LBG to DAM?

Thank you.
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Don't answer any questions. Disappear
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So you want to know distance and how long it takes to get from A to B. Use aviator calculator. What really you want to know?
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Sounds like a Saudi mass exodus,why I ask WHY?
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A few tea-towel heads on a plane is hardly a mass exodus.
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Most telling thread on GLP.

Translation: SERIOUS attack on the US coming.

Thanks for the heads up OP
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Most telling thread on GLP.

Translation: SERIOUS attack on the US coming.

Thanks for the heads up OP
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Why would Saudis move to the US if it was going to be under attack?

That's ridiculous!

The saudi king supposedly warned the of an ISIS attack last month
Why would they be going to the US after that kind of a warning

The more logical reason is that they ate fleeing the chaos and the power struggle that will esclate within the kingdom and then the entire gulf nations

Thread: AHEAD of BRKG NEWS: Saudi King Abdullah Death Concealed Since Start of October-- Announcent By Mid-November.

Saudis are fully aware that king Abdullah is the last king before the rise of Al-Imam Al-Mahdi ...when he rises , all will fall.
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Maybe they are all just flying back after the Mecca concert. I'm sure the Saudi 20 somethings all live in the U.S. and not at home with their parents. Just look for those spoiled brats on instagram...

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oh brother......
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Try to read thread properly before commenting and not look foolish
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It's towel head not tea towel. Get some rest from internet

Btw you just insulted your forefathers as they were all wearing towels also
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Movement is kept secret, even some palaces staff do not know
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Movement is kept secret, even some palaces staff do not know
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Okaaaay....movement from WHAT???
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I'm just interested to know what they're getting away from: Fukushima and this typhoon???
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It's towel head not tea towel. Get some rest from internet

Btw you just insulted your forefathers as they were all wearing towels also
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PLEEZE!!! They DO NOT wear towels on their heads!

Those are rags, not towels.





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