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Anonymous Coward User ID: 7596194 Denmark 10/30/2014 07:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My parents chained smoked in a closed house with no ventilation . I am a nicotine based life form , my fathers sperm was probably loaded with nicotine and my mothers eggs as well . Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51663907 I remember my first breath of fresh air when I was born and how hard it was on me until my parents rushed me home in the car with all the windows rolled up chain smoking and then holding my breath until they rushed me into the smoke filled chamber we called home , oh , the relief of it . Over the years I learned to breath regular air but it was very painful . Fact is I spent to much time working in it and now I have emphysema from it , only a smoke every ten minutes or so gives me any relief from it at all . I agree, its the baby boomers who smoked all our childhood now demanding that it is prohibited. I JUST HATE THAT GENERATION Dobbel standard, hippie war mongoring STUPID after war generation. PUKE! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 64421255 United States 10/30/2014 08:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It makes perfect sense! The Hospital wont hire staff that smokes cigarettes because Nicotine is a cure to Ebola and they want their staff to contract Ebola and die! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64378081 This has nothing to do with all of the evidence that smoking and nicotine is bad for your health. I'm going to start smoking today! Read again. Not just cigarettes any kind of nicotine. Which would eliminate me and my 4mg nicotine gum. Tell me. What the fuck business is it of my employer if I chew nicotine gum? Exactly. I can't believe it in fact, what a buncha FN BS. |
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The Årtist
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Lil Sis
User ID: 64287711 United States 10/30/2014 08:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My parents chained smoked in a closed house with no ventilation . I am a nicotine based life form , my fathers sperm was probably loaded with nicotine and my mothers eggs as well . Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51663907 I remember my first breath of fresh air when I was born and how hard it was on me until my parents rushed me home in the car with all the windows rolled up chain smoking and then holding my breath until they rushed me into the smoke filled chamber we called home , oh , the relief of it . Over the years I learned to breath regular air but it was very painful . Fact is I spent to much time working in it and now I have emphysema from it , only a smoke every ten minutes or so gives me any relief from it at all . I agree, its the baby boomers who smoked all our childhood now demanding that it is prohibited. I JUST HATE THAT GENERATION Dobbel standard, hippie war mongoring STUPID after war generation. PUKE! No, it is the elite who pushed agendas, all the way through. And are now pushing the 'blame it all on the boomers' agenda now. And instead of trying to do something constructive, you are living out THEIR agenda throroughly, and not even realizing it. That is 'double', not doppel. ************************************************************************ Corruptisima re publica plurimae leges. ~ Terence |
Lil Sis
User ID: 64287711 United States 10/30/2014 08:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Years ago the government wanted everyone to smoke because they made lots of money from cigarette tax. Quoting: CowgirlK In the late 80's they declared war on cigarettes and started banning smoking inside most buildings. Fast forward to today and you can't smoke anywhere. We all know that the government doesn't give a crap about any of us so why would they declare war on tobacco when they collect millions in tax revenue from smokers? If you believe the studies, cigarettes should kill off most smokers before they have a chance to collect social security, so the government wins by not having to pay out any SS money. Here is the irony of it all, lots of smokers today are healthier than their non-smoking counter parts. Why? Because smokers get plenty of exercise walking around trying to find a place to smoke. Smokers stand outside in the sun and get their daily dose of vitamin D. Smokers interact and talk to other smokers while they are huddled together in designated smoking areas instead of sitting alone with their face in an I-phone. Another thing that I don't understand is if smoking deadly, why are so many states getting on the legalize pot band wagon? I guess second hand pot smoke is better for you than tobacco smoke...or at least that is what they want the people to believe. Cowgirl K, you just think too rationally for yout own good! Stop asking such silly questions and just accept that China is the world's biggest tobacco produce. But, with Ebola on the horizon, surprisingly, they have stepped up their own stop smoking campaign. ************************************************************************ Corruptisima re publica plurimae leges. ~ Terence |
Madmacs
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 63708777 United States 10/30/2014 08:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am pretty sure that they have only found that they can grow the vaccine faster because they have found a way to trick the plant into supplying the nutrients in the same way eggs would...just faster. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64661453 I am pretty sure it isn't the nicotine or any other part of the tobacco plant that was relevant- just it's ability to grow the medium quicker than any current method at least that was the info they were talking about in the newspaper article about the Canadian company that was also working on it I have seen some silly things but this is silly. I smoked for 35 years and finally quit after going cold turkey three years ago. I can run almost ten miles now. Before I quit, I could barely breathe. I mean, I believe some things that most people would label crazy, but I'm not buying that smoking helps. Educate yourself friends. All they are doing is infecting the living plant, it produces something that heals humans. No way dead tobacco is going to help you. "Making the serum is slow, in part, because the plants must be grown for several weeks before they are “infected” with a type of protein. “Basically the plants act like a photocopier of the proteins,” Howard says. Once they’re infected, Howard says it takes a week for the plants to make enough of the protein to harvest and distill into a useable drug. “Talk about transforming tobacco,” Howard says." [link to www.webmd.com] |
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Madmacs
User ID: 1260419 United States 10/30/2014 08:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am pretty sure that they have only found that they can grow the vaccine faster because they have found a way to trick the plant into supplying the nutrients in the same way eggs would...just faster. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64661453 I am pretty sure it isn't the nicotine or any other part of the tobacco plant that was relevant- just it's ability to grow the medium quicker than any current method at least that was the info they were talking about in the newspaper article about the Canadian company that was also working on it I have seen some silly things but this is silly. I smoked for 35 years and finally quit after going cold turkey three years ago. I can run almost ten miles now. Before I quit, I could barely breathe. I mean, I believe some things that most people would label crazy, but I'm not buying that smoking helps. Educate yourself friends. All they are doing is infecting the living plant, it produces something that heals humans. No way dead tobacco is going to help you. "Making the serum is slow, in part, because the plants must be grown for several weeks before they are “infected” with a type of protein. “Basically the plants act like a photocopier of the proteins,” Howard says. Once they’re infected, Howard says it takes a week for the plants to make enough of the protein to harvest and distill into a useable drug. “Talk about transforming tobacco,” Howard says." [link to www.webmd.com] yo get on the front page... e cigs and vaping = nicotine without the carcinogens... hello are you paying attention??? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19876247 United States 10/30/2014 08:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I smoke... but I'm not to sure that the push to get everyone to quit is because there is something good. I'm going to guess that it's because of the health related costs when we're all on single payer. Quoting: pinkshirtguy Either way, smoke up. But, But -if we go to single payer and MORE people smoke according to their theory - then they save massively on social security and medicare because they supposedly live 15 years less! This can't be the reason. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 64673316 Romania 10/30/2014 08:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quite a lot of info here: Thread: Nicotine fights fear, anxiety, PTSD Thread: New study: nicotine dramatically improves and normalizes failing memory in elders Thread: Nicotine, DHEA, brain and fat metabolism and ageing Thread: Nicotine treating stubborn forms of tuberculosis That means smoking is bankrupting big pharma and hospitals! Thread: Social Bonding: the Nicotine and Vasopressin link TPTB need a society of clueless zombies devoid of empathy. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 63708777 United States 10/30/2014 08:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am pretty sure that they have only found that they can grow the vaccine faster because they have found a way to trick the plant into supplying the nutrients in the same way eggs would...just faster. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64661453 I am pretty sure it isn't the nicotine or any other part of the tobacco plant that was relevant- just it's ability to grow the medium quicker than any current method at least that was the info they were talking about in the newspaper article about the Canadian company that was also working on it I have seen some silly things but this is silly. I smoked for 35 years and finally quit after going cold turkey three years ago. I can run almost ten miles now. Before I quit, I could barely breathe. I mean, I believe some things that most people would label crazy, but I'm not buying that smoking helps. Educate yourself friends. All they are doing is infecting the living plant, it produces something that heals humans. No way dead tobacco is going to help you. "Making the serum is slow, in part, because the plants must be grown for several weeks before they are “infected” with a type of protein. “Basically the plants act like a photocopier of the proteins,” Howard says. Once they’re infected, Howard says it takes a week for the plants to make enough of the protein to harvest and distill into a useable drug. “Talk about transforming tobacco,” Howard says." [link to www.webmd.com] yo get on the front page... e cigs and vaping = nicotine without the carcinogens... hello are you paying attention??? Let's think this through, critically. If Nicotine is what helps make ZMAPP, it does so because Nicotine speeds up the replication process of the virus. Having said that, do you think speeding up the replication process of Ebola in your lungs is really a good thing? I mean, please vape if that's what you want to do. Smoke 3 packs of smokes a day if that's what you want to do. But FFS think of your family too. Nothing like watching someone on their death bed dying from smoking. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 19876247 United States 10/30/2014 08:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My parents chained smoked in a closed house with no ventilation . I am a nicotine based life form , my fathers sperm was probably loaded with nicotine and my mothers eggs as well . Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51663907 I remember my first breath of fresh air when I was born and how hard it was on me until my parents rushed me home in the car with all the windows rolled up chain smoking and then holding my breath until they rushed me into the smoke filled chamber we called home , oh , the relief of it . Over the years I learned to breath regular air but it was very painful . Fact is I spent to much time working in it and now I have emphysema from it , only a smoke every ten minutes or so gives me any relief from it at all . I agree, its the baby boomers who smoked all our childhood now demanding that it is prohibited. I JUST HATE THAT GENERATION Dobbel standard, hippie war mongoring STUPID after war generation. PUKE! No, it is the elite who pushed agendas, all the way through. And are now pushing the 'blame it all on the boomers' agenda now. And instead of trying to do something constructive, you are living out THEIR agenda throroughly, and not even realizing it. That is 'double', not doppel. The youngest BOOMERS are 50 this year! 1946-1964 cohort. And since you don't remember - the oldest of them were the PEACE protestors and Draft dodgers that went to Canada. The WAR mongers were the generation before them -who are STILL in congress and are just 70 this year-those born DURING WW2 and before. The Boomers is the group that younger people have been TAUGHT to hate even though they don't even know who they are...we all blame our parents of course -the boomers blame their parents and so on and so on...HALF of Congress is over 65 I think! You are being programmed for generational divide. Just like the race war programming. Get a clue. |
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Andrasta
User ID: 34340378 United States 10/30/2014 08:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Smokers here. Haven't a clue why the powers that be want us to quit smoking, they seem to want us dead so why bother... That being said. They are doing serious genetic modification to the spleen cells of infected mice and then more modification and more.... Then a GMO tobacco plant purifies the antibodies they're looking for... That is at least a very simple explanation of how zmapp is made. Don't think nicotine cures ebola. It's like the egg in flu vaccine... The breeder of the cure. But what the fuck do I know. Smoke them if you got them. Have a good day. Last Edited by Andraste on 10/30/2014 08:52 AM Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same. ~Ronald Reagan |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19876247 United States 10/30/2014 08:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | okay...for the ones that just in the "okay so it's good to smoke cigarets..finally I have an excuse to keep with bad habits" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64670315 Beside tobacco has antiparrasite activity, it can help bosting responses of your lungs in critical situations by producing mucus and also its ati-hemorragic qualitis smoking (chemical or not) isn't free of risk cancer need different elements to start chemical load / virus, fungus etc/ stress the high temperature of smoke are carcinogenic substances in tobacco increase cellular replication while reducing angiogenesis so you get a load of chemicals in a oxigen poor environment, with cellular replication agents and heat. Low vitamins...especially vit C that will give you cancer in the other hands in critical situation with a hemorragic fever tobacco extracts administration trough vaporization or intravenous could save your life now put down your malboro and pick some acetylcysteine when ebola hit you can use a narghile Well Lookee here: A google of acetylcysteine: Reason for the Shortage American Regent has acetylcysteine inhalation on shortage due to manufacturing delays. Roxane Labs discontinued acetylcysteine inhalation solution in April 2014. The product had previously been on shortage due to manufacturing delays. Hospira has acetylcysteine inhalation solution on shortage due to manufacturing delay. Fresenius Kabi (formerly APP) states the reason for the shortage was increased demand. - See more at: [link to www.ashp.org] FROM - 50% Rule [link to www.ashp.org] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 64673316 Romania 10/30/2014 08:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A couple of very interesting papers have come to my attention recently. The first one was published very recently in Clinical Endocrinology where they found that those who quit smoking had a 6-fold increase risk for autoimmune thyroid problems. There seems to be a complex interaction between smoking and the immune system in that the authors of the paper were speculating that “transition from current to ex-smoker may lead to limitation in activity, to chronic health conditions, to physical and psychological symptoms and to a higher hospital admissions“. Smoking is associated with a low prevalence of thyroid auto-antibodies, and autoimmune thyroid problems is a huge problem in the world today. The second paper is very fascinating, considering that anti-smoking activists tend to be intolerant and judgmental Authoritarian Follower types. I’m going to quote some excerpts here: Does insular stroke disrupt the self-medication effects of nicotine? This paper explores the relationship between insular stroke and the disruption of tobacco use. A functional analysis of the role of the insula in maintaining homeostasis suggests that the insula monitors hypoxia and applies dyspnea to motivate the individual to regulate breathing. From its’ early usage, nicotine has been used to treat respiratory disorders. It increases respiratory drive, promoting better breathing. Insular stroke likely interferes with this self-regulation. A new self-medication model is proposed for tobacco use. The effect on public policy is discussed. What is described as ‘‘craving” for nicotine may be no more than chronic mild dyspnea or air hunger. A stroke in the right insular cortex reduces the sensitivity to the perception of dyspnea [3]. These stroke patients would not be aware of their hypoxic state, and not motivated to continue treatment with nicotine. The apparently functional stroke patient will get lots of positive feedback from health care workers. But, the human system is still in serious trouble. [link to www.health-matrix.net] |
Remoh
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 59948382 United States 10/30/2014 09:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A new study looked at whether smoking or obesity takes more years off a person's life and some may find the results surprising. Researchers from the National Cancer Institute found that smokers actually live longer on average, than people dealing with obesity. They compared normal weight smokers to extremely obese non-smokers and found that obesity shortens life spans more than smoking. [link to www.news4jax.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56537535 Canada 10/30/2014 09:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | seriously? you guys are all a bunch of morans. Sure...fucking smoke up! Cause if ebola doesn't kill you off then lung cancer will. Darwinism at it's finest. Idiots. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61900276 Nicotine is one of the only naturally occurring substances that can stop a cytokine storm in its tracks, instantly. Most people that are attack by viruses/bacteria/fungi in a outbreak die due to the cytokine storm in the body. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3210150 Canada 10/30/2014 09:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't know what to believe. Been a smoker for a long time and have had a few instances of quitting for short periods (months at a time). What I notice when I quit is that I usually get sick within a few days or a week of quitting. I have been told that its my body expelling toxins or being able to expel the toxins because smoking supresses your bodies ability to expel these toxins. As with most addictions when you are "using" it brings a level of calm for the moment. I suppose its why, when people get stressed out they want to light up and it helps psychologically at least to calm them down. Much like a stiff drink might work after a rough day. Smoking smells terrible and I really notice it once I have stopped for a couple of weeks. Especially if you smoke in your car. I used to smoke in the house and it creates a yellow stain on everything not to mention the awful stale smell. Fortunately when I moved into the current house I have never smoked inside. Not sure if its quite as bad as cat pee, the previous owners had cats and they had their litter in the basement. Despite cleaning the floor several times including the use of ammonia , bleach and other heavy cleaners.... We can still smell once and a while... thank god its rare that we can smell it. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 63708777 United States 10/30/2014 09:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What about weed? Does smoking weed do anything to cure ebola? not a huge nicotine fan... buuuuuuuuttttt.... definitely THC. :) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64674000 You should Google this stuff for yourself and think it through, lest someone give you bad information. Having said that, here's what I found. Notice where it says CBD's? That's primarily in Indica and not Sativa. You're welcome. :) Weed Protects You From Ebola [link to sasquatchglass.com] “There is good scientific evidence that cannabinoids, and in particular Cannabidiol (CBD), may offer control of the immune system and in turn provide protection from viral infections (4). Cannabis has already been recognized to inhibit fungus and bacteria and can be considered a new class of antimicrobial because of the different mechanism of action from other antimicrobials. (1) |
nilla
User ID: 55722629 United States 10/30/2014 09:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1. Many lung cancers are metastasized from other sites in the body. So technically lung cancers will be categorized from their original origin. Whether or not smoking increases these cancers to spread to the lungs is an important question. 2. Maybe the hospital requires nicotine free employees because many many hirees may not disclose they smoke and drug test which may include nicotine monitoring is the only way to get to the truth. Simple explanation... |
Just Trina
User ID: 64128831 United States 10/30/2014 09:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't plan on stopping smoking anytime soon..My father has smoked since he was 15 and is now 74 and has NEVER had any health problems nor is he on any medication. I'm 46 and have smoked off and on since I was 17.When people hear I have 2 children that are 26 and 28 they can't believe it and say I don't look old enough to have children that age and most people think me to be in my 20's or 30's. But...I only smoke about 1/2 pack a day or less, usually a pack will last me 2-3 days. People know their own bodies much better than any dr. Ever could. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 134216 United States 10/30/2014 09:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | seriously? you guys are all a bunch of morans. Sure...fucking smoke up! Cause if ebola doesn't kill you off then lung cancer will. Darwinism at it's finest. Idiots. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61900276 Eat your cereal you fucking idiot. You probably think you're enlightened and smart being on here. No doubt cigarettes may cause health problems but nicotine in small doses may have positive effects on your mind. But for the government flooding us with how bad smoking is it is a contradiction of everything they do. LOL actually I come here for laughs. When I'm on GLP I spend the majority of the time just shaking my head in disbelief at the sheer stupidity. I mean really...fucking SMOKING CIGARETTES as the cure for ebola...I think I've heard everything there is to hear in life now. Man, reading comprehension around here is abysmal. OP said *** NICOTINE *** - smoking is just a convenient well known form of nicotine ingestion. There are many other ways to get nicotine without smoking. NRT (Nicotine Replacement Therapies), Vaping, etc. |
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