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Azaziah
(OP) User ID: 64665082 United States 10/31/2014 07:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | well this is how water was stored in greek island thousand years ago and still now... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21792995 Not using solar pannels obviously but airmill to bring water on top of the island for later use. Good point. Another interesting thing is that storing water, behind a dam or at a height, is by far the most efficient energy storage method man has. Many times more efficient than a battery, for example. |
Azaziah
(OP) User ID: 64665082 United States 10/31/2014 07:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | lol just because you say you aren't adverstising doesn't mean you aren't. good on you for being a small businessman but politely fuck off Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42456912 Just trying to give back a little... sorry if it lands the wrong way for you, AC. Funny how the interweb makes people real brave about insults and curses... ah well. You look like a pussy, I think I will just rob your and take your shit. Okay. When you see the sign that says: If You Can Read This You Are in Range. Just smile and wave... |
Azaziah
(OP) User ID: 64665082 United States 10/31/2014 08:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, this is a great idea. I see this post as WAY more information sharing than advertising. Thanks for that. I think I could make one of these. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33538514 If you don't mind my asking, how would you get the initial gravity feed from a source such as the river/stream you made this for? In our case, the river itself is about 5 feet below the riverbank. I have a $20 'on demand' diaphragm pump (the type used in RV and boats for potable water - see Ebay or Amazon). This pulls 1 - 2 amps at 12 volts, so It will be hooked to a 30 watt solar panel. This will easily pump water about 15 feet vertically. The pumped water will be caught in a 55 gallon blue plastic barrel at the river's edge. A hose bib installed near the bottom of the barrel will provide the gravity feed to the first WaterBoy. Note: A blue (any color, as long as it is not translucent) barrel is important, because sunlight will cause bacteria to grow inside the barrel, and quickly. Do NOT use the common white plastic barrels for that reason. Interestingly, if you have standing water or a river / creek that you can wade into, you could simply drill a few 1/2" holes in the side of a 5 gallon bucket, near the bottom. Place the WaterBoy mechanism in the bucket and then set the whole thing in the water so it floods roughly to the midpoint. This will rotate the solar panel into position and pump water directly from the creek. I have not done it, yet, but you could also skip the bucket and simply float the WaterBoy on a piece of foam or something and use the supply hose as a tether... Lotta options... |
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Azaziah
(OP) User ID: 64665082 United States 10/31/2014 08:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm a science dummy so don't laugh. But could you adapt this to use as a pump for your central heating when there's no mains electric to run it? Quoting: Tess. I don't know the type of heating you are using, but I think the short answer is no. Completely different type of pumping. Here in the shop, we have PEX tubing buried in the concrete floor. A solar-driven thermosiphon heats water and it circulates through the concrete. The only moving parts are the valves, and it requires no power whatsoever to operate. It doesn't eliminate the need for conventional heating in the middle of winter, but it comes close. |
Azaziah
(OP) User ID: 64665082 United States 10/31/2014 08:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How high can this pump? Could it be used to transfer water up to a tower-mounted gravity tank? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58776263 not very high. I have gotten 7 feet with decent flow. I know we get 25 gallons an hour at 4' head. If you purpose is to pump to a height with low voltage, you want a diaphragm pump, probably. It could be done with a pump and bucket set 7 feet above each other. For a 21 foot water tower you would need 3 pumps. Your biggest problem is your water source. I'm not sure I would want to be dependent upon a bunch of little water fountain pumps for my water supply though. True. The system can be staged at increasing heights, and theoretically you have no limit (friction losses reset at each pump). You probably would want a common back-flow preventer so the water does not 'fall' back down if the sun goes away... Regarding the pump itself, yes, it is a 'little water fountain pump'. But it is oil-free, sealed, rated for constant duty (30,000 hours), and you can replace it in a few minutes with a screwdriver. It would be wise to have a couple spares. They are less than $15 each. |
Azaziah
(OP) User ID: 64665082 United States 10/31/2014 08:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To the post above, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33538514 I don't know what a water fountain pump is, but we boaters rely on bilge pumps to keep our boats from sinking. That's what I would use in this set-up. Exactly! The pumps are nearly identical, except for power and capacity. Submersible, impeller driven, sealed shaft. The pump in the WaterBoy is about 1/4 the size of a typical marine bilge pump. |
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also known at WA User ID: 65831434 United States 01/01/2015 05:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | :whiteangelbump: Isaiah 5:20 KJV Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Thread: Being Prepared - Updated Basic Food List On Page One |