JESUS = Caesarion – the son of Cleopatra & Julius Caesar

The first part about Jesus starts at around the 10 minute mark in this video.



Last Edited by Lamplite on 11/23/2014 08:57 AM

This part starts with Moses and how they changed the real identity of the characters in the bible to hide their connection.

This video I tend to agree with one, it explains how the ritual of Julius Caesar funeral and that of Jesus's death (same initials) are almost identical. Right down to how a model of Julius was made and erected on a Cross. Some people still worship this event exactly how it was originally done and it is clear they are really paying homage to Julius Caesar.

Summary:

They claim Jesus was really Cesarean, the son of Julius Caesar by Cleopatra who sent her son into hiding and he was taken away to prevent his death by trusted aids of Cleopatra to India. They explains how Cesarean changed his name to one that meant Jesus and how he wanted to immortalize his father and change the Roman Empire into the Holy Roman Empire staring his father as the secret hero.

This makes sense in that Jesus said he would be put to death well before he even went to Jerusalem. It also lines up with his statement "the father and son are one" because in this, they are indeed one and the same as Cesarean is really playing the role of his father and speaking his words.
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The woman in revelations is mary m fleeing from the dragon that seeks to devour her offspring

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Utterly fascinating and thought provoking

While I neither "believe" or "disbelieve" the assertion, it gave me much reason to ponder history

Why do people even look up to the romans? They were scumbags if you take the icing off..

1 Kings 1:36 And Benaiah the son of Jehoiada answered the king, and said, Amen: the LORD God of my lord the king say so too.

Archaeology experts have found absolutely no evidence what so ever that Hebrew Jews lived as slaves in Egypt or of their exodus from Egypt...... The plain truth is that Moses didn’t lead Hebrew slaves out of Egypt anymore then Chilton Heston did..... There is not one shred of archeological evidence for the existence of Moses or of any of the bible’s main cast of Hebrew characters – from Abraham to Jacob to King David to King Solomon...... There is however plenty of evidence for the existence of Egyptian pharaohs who these biblical characters are based on.....

Evidence shows that the ancestral patriarch of the Hebrew Jews is Amenemhet the first and that his biblical name is Abraham. Since pharaoh Amenemhet worshipped the god Amen, are Amen and the biblical god the same god?

Since Yakubher is the Aramean name for Jacob, Egyptology experts interpret this as factual evidence that the biblical Jacob and the hyksos king Yakubher were one of the same,

Moses closely matches Thutmosis the third, even the names Moses and Thutmosis are almost identical.

King David reigned for 50 years, Egyptian history reveals that pharaoh Psusennes also ruled Canaan for 50 years at the same time as the biblical king David – both battled the same enemy called the sea people or philistines.

Pharaoh Siamun and King Solomon reigned at exactly the same time and fought the same enemies in Canaan called the Matani, the Hittites and the Philistines.

(Jacob: 1758 – 1611 BC, King Yakubher reign: 1655 – 1646 BC)

(King David reign: 1012 – 962 BC, Psusennes reign: 1039-991 BC)

(Moses: 1527 – 1407 BC, Thutmose the third reign: 1479 - 1425 BC)

(Abraham: 2055 – 1880 BC, Amenemhet the first reign: 1991 – 1962 BC)

(King Solomon reign: 970 – 931 BC, Siamun reign: 978 – 959 BC)
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Besides Pharaoh Amenemhet and Biblical Abraham living at the same place at the same time, there is evidence connecting biblical Abraham to pharaoh Amenemhet the first. According to Egyptian history pharaoh Amenemhet the first was not of royal blood and his family origin is unknown, Egyptology experts believe he seized the throne of Egypt after murdering Pharaoh Mentuhotep.

Jacob takes his Hebrew clan and migrates from Canaan into Egypt, this Hebrew migration into Egypt closely parallels Egyptian history when the Semitic hyksos migrants overthrew the Egyptian pharaohs and seized the throne of Egypt. One of the Semitic hyksos leaders who became king of Egypt was Yakubher (Jacob)

Historical records show that the Semitic hyksos kings ruled Egypt for over a hundred years. The Egyptian people rebuild against these Semitic kings and pushed them into northern Egypt. By 1500 BC a peace agreement was reached between the Egyptians and the Semitic hyksos, which allowed the hyksos people to leave Egypt peaceably and move to Palestine and Jerusalem in the Egyptian controlled land of Canaan. Their gradual and peaceful migration closely matches the bible story of the Semitic Hebrew exudes from Egypt into Canaan in 1447 BC.

An Egyptian pharaoh ordering the deaths of all Hebrew baby boys, the Hebrew mother of baby Moses tries to save him by hiding him in the Nile River. When baby Moses is found by the princess daughter of the Egyptian pharaoh, the princes decides to raise him as her own son. Moses now has two mothers – a royal Egyptian princess mother and a none royal Hebrew mother. Thutmosis the first and his princess daughter was Hatshepsut. Egyptian history verifies that princess Hatshepsut married her brother named pharaoh Thutmosis the second, but when Hatshepsut couldn’t produce the male air to the throne, her brother husband chose a none royal mistress named Isis to produce the male air and named their son Thutmosis the third, the bible story of Moses closely matches the factual Egyptian story of Thutmosis the third.

In the bible story Moses gives up his big chance to become the richest most powerful ruler in the ancient world to become a lowly poverty stricken Hebrew laborer, but wouldn’t becoming ruler of Egypt and Canaan been the most intelligent way to help his fellow Hebrews? The historical facts show that’s exactly what Thutmosis the third did. Once he grew up to become pharaoh of Egypt, Thutmosis the third organized military campaigns with his mighty armies and chariots and defeated the enemies of the Hebrew hyksos who had settled in Canaan.
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The historical facts show that the last pharaoh of Egypt was Ptolemy the 15th who was nicknamed caesarian or little Caesar. Born in 47 BC caesarian was the son of two of the most famous parents in world history – Roman ruler Julius Caesar and Egyptian pharaoh Cleopatra. When mother caesarian Cleopatra proclaimed herself to be the reincarnation of the virgin goddess Isis, caesarian became the son of a virgin mother goddess, when caesarian’s father Julius Caesar was elevated to the status of god by the Roman senate, caesarian was recognised as the son of god and air to god’s kingdom the Roman Empire. Caesarian was also recognised as the sun of god in Egypt after his mother named him ruling Pharaoh of Egypt. Cleopatra declared caesarian to be the King of kings, at the age of thirteen during the donations of Alexandria ceremony in 34 BC.

The face of history suddenly changed when Julius Caesar was stabbed to death by his most trusted men, Octavian the adopted son of Julius Caesar swiftly seized power as the new Roman emperor. After Caesar’s death Cleopatra became romantically involved with married commander from Caesar’s army named Mark Antony. Mark Antony and Cleopatra parented three children, a twin boy and girl followed by a second boy, since caesarian was Julius Caesar’s son and was rightful air to the throne to the Roman Empire, Cleopatra feared for his safety. When Octavian’s mighty Roman army invaded Egypt, Cleopatra arranged for caesarians safe passage out of Egypt with her most trusted servants. Historians confirm that Cleopatra sent caesarian to India, there are no historical records for caesarian’s fait, despite false rumours of his capture.

Cleopatra’s trusted servants who travelled with caesarian, became the boy’s parent guardians but who exactly were these parent guardians who Cleopatra intrusted her son to - were their names Merry and Joseph by any chance? While caesarian fled from Egypt with his parent guardians, Cleopatra and Mark Antony’s three children were placed in their care of Antony’s wife, after suffering a crushing defeat against Octavian’s evading army, Mark Antony committed suicide by falling on his own sword, the devastated Cleopatra also committed suicide by a self inflicted poisonous snake bite. While travelling undercover through Egypt with his parent guardians, caesarian was forced to hide his identity and change his name. The Egyptian name for Jesus is ‘Esue’ (spelling?) which means the son of Isis, it can be found in Egyptian hieroglyphics.
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Historically a series of powerful invaders the philistines, the Babylonians and Persians conquered the land of Canaan which the Hebrew people called Israel, the Hebrew tribes of Manesseh and Dan joined forces and became the Macedonians or Macedanians (Manasseh + Dan = Macedanians) They fled to Greece where they wore white kilts like the Egyptian pharaohs, played goat skinned bagpipes, adopted the Greek culture and settled along the River Danube which they named after the tribe of Dan.

By 322 BC their leader Alexandria the Great reconquered Egypt and appointed his general Ptolemy I as the new Hebrew pharaoh of Egypt. Cleopatra was the last in a succession of Hebrew Ptolemy Kings, although Cleopatra is considered to be the last of the Egyptian pharaohs, author Ralph Ellis claims that Jesus was the last of the Hebrew pharaohs of Egypt. Must read ‘Jesus, Last of the Pharaohs: The True History of Religion Revealed’
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Op, you should probably leave the links you are paste this info from

Can't link to were it came from.

It is some of the wording from the videos above.

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A 7-week old Caesarean section scar and linea nigra visible on a 31-year-old mother.
Cesarean section is recommended when vaginal delivery might pose a risk to the mother or baby. C-sections are also carried out for personal preference but this is not recommended. Planned caesarean sections also known as elective caesarean sections should not be scheduled before 39 weeks gestational age unless there is a medical reason to do so

Yes, I am a peasant. Does my presence bother you?

Well, according to Wikipedia "Caesarion" is meant to be spelt with an "o"

I changed it just for you ... happy now?

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Last Edited by Lamplite on 11/23/2014 02:24 AM

I'm beginning to find what I am looking for?

There are many passages in the bible with seem to hint that the Hebrews of the bible were really Babylonian. The bible states they worshiped the Queen of Heaven and ate cakes to honour her and the bible goes on about how they were not being allowed to worship Baal. Like worshiping Baal is what came naturally to these people. Baal, was their God, and then suddenly they were no longer allowed to worship Baal.

Is this like the Romans worshiping Zeus and then suddenly there's a political change and the statues are pulled down and they're no longer allowed to worship Zeus and they must worship Jesus?

"It was the sun-god of Heliopolis whom the Hyksos conquer-
ors identified with their own supreme Baal." [link to archive.org]

"The Hyksos" is the line from which the Queen of England descends. So it seems these people have been in power a very long time.

They conquered Egypt and become Pharaohs and then they did indeed exit Egypt and go into the land of Israel. They were not slaves however and their exit was peaceful. Some remained however and married into the Egyptian family trees so they could remain in power there.

Does anybody know about this?
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Queen Elizabeth 2 Genealogy chart

English/Scottish/Irish Kings

Viking Kings

Ptolemy King

King Solomon (Siamun)

King David (Psusennes 1)

Moses (Thutmose)

Hyksos Kings

Abraham (Amenemhet 1)
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even the icing was pretty icky

looking for thoughtful answers.

Lamplite, your post's theory is something I never came across before. If it were, it would be interesting .... and it would also make Jesus a little older than previously thought.

I love this thread! Finally, the pieces make sense.

I'd like an elaboration on the Baal issue, which brings us to modern day flesh sacrifice in all the Abrahamic religions.

Your Judge, Jesus Christ, offers His own shed blood in payment for your sins. When He rose from the dead, He proved His credibility.

Jesus raising the dead was nothing but a cheap conjuring trick.

First Jesus used this trick on his friend, Lazarus of Bethany and later on himself.

Mary . . . her sister Martha . . . brother Lazarus:

Jesus had a close relationship with this family

When Jesus heard that, He said, "This sickness is not unto death, but for the glory of God, that the Son of God may be glorified through it." Now Jesus loved Martha and her sister and Lazarus. So, when he heard that he was sick, he stayed two more days in the place where he was.

These things He said, and after that He said to them, "Our friend Lazarus sleeps, but I go that I may wake him up." Then His disciples said, "Lord, if he sleeps he will get well." However, Jesus spoke of his death, but they thought that he was speaking about taking rest in sleep. Then Jesus said to them plainly, "Lazarus is dead. And I am glad for your sakes that I was not there, that you may believe. Nevertheless let us go to him."


There was a poison near this area where they were called grayanotoxin it is made from Rhododendron and was spoken of in the movie Sherlock Holmes which all but exposes this scam. This drug puts someone into a deep sleep where they appear dead but they're not. Days[?] later they revive.

After Jesus uses this trick to get followers to believe he can raise the dead, he then uses it on himself and again three days later wakes from a fake death.

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There is no doubt that Josephus, who is Paul, included the son of Caesar into his character sketch of the Biblical Jesus. Arius Didymus was a pen name that he and Lucius Plutarchus used. Arius was the teacher of Octavian Augustus who recommended Octavian have Caesar's son assassinated in Alexandria, Egypt.

But remember that the main historical person behind Jesus, was Josephus Harod friend of Flavius' rival Azizus Monobaz, husband of Drusilla of the Herod family.

Azizus is linked to the family of Cleopatra and Mark Antony.

And here:
[link to caesarsmessiahdebunked.com]

A Critique of Joseph Atwill’s “Caesar’s Messiah”
[link to www.evidenceunseen.com]

Ceasar’s Messiah Conspiracy Theory is Easily Refuted
[link to www.logosapologia.org]

We know who Mary, Martha, and Lazarus is too.

Why? Because the father of Martha was Simon of Bethany. This corresponds to Simon of the Boethian school of Alexandria.

That would make Mary, Miriamne I, wife of Herod. But Mary is a combination of people. Queen Helena is also part of the Mary sketch written by Josephus.

Lazarus was a combination of Miriamne's brother and her son who was assassinated by Herod in order to favor his family members allied with Rome. Miriamne's side was allied with Parthia.