The Pre-tribulation Rapture is Jesuit authored FALSE DOCTRINE!

Fun to watch religionTards discuss at lenght something that does not exist.
Even a lot of religiontards don't believe in the "rapture",
I never did, and its like a laser light pointer driving a cat
crazy chasing it, "pre" trib or "post" trib?
How about in the middle trib?
If god does exist (an open question) the bible clearly states that he/she is no respecter of persons, the main argument of the "pre" trib bunch being that god would not put his people through that.
When he put Job through all kinds of trouble to win a bar bet with Satan.
And made Moses wander in the desert for 40 years, him dying right before he reached it.
And people wonder why I am Agnostic

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Thanks for the exposing of the Jesuit lie.

Jesuit Francisco Rivera invented this lie and the entire Christian world knew it as a lie.

It was not until Cyrus Scofield in error added it to his study notes did the lie spread though the protestant world.

Before than, every Commandment keeping Christian knew it to be a lie of Rome to take eyes off her.

Sadly , it has worked.

If you are truly seeking GOD, he will reveal it to you. I had a lot of questions concerning pre-trib, post- trib...

And I found the answer in the Bible. If you truly are seeking, the answers are in "The feast days" starting in Leviticus 23.

There are 7 feast days, four of which are fulfilled.
I'm not going to type a wall of text, but for all who wish to know GOD more, start with this video.

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I did not comment. But those the Lord is pleased with will not suffer wrath but instead sing.. right here upon the earth.

If one thinks it would take more than a day for God to pull the rug out from under the earth after satan has had his way with Gods own children, much less 15 mins, then they just aren't paying enough attention to the letter that has been written.

And no I am not going to spoon feed scripture. Especially when so many teach that God will be like moloch burning and torturing flesh men in His wrath. Many might consider who it is they think they built up in their minds.

God is not going to torture people in flesh or spirit even for days or even years on end. Sorry...


Jeremiah 19

5 They have built also the high places of Baal, to burn their sons with fire for burnt offerings unto Baal, which I commanded not, nor spake it, neither came it into my mind:

6 Therefore, behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that this place shall no more be called Tophet, nor The valley of the son of Hinnom, but The valley of slaughter.

7 And I will make void the counsel of Judah and Jerusalem in this place; and I will cause them to fall by the sword before their enemies, and by the hands of them that seek their lives: and their carcases will I give to be meat for the fowls of the heaven, and for the beasts of the earth.

8 And I will make this city desolate, and an hissing; every one that passeth thereby shall be astonished and hiss because of all the plagues thereof.

Yes exactly. I'm not posting a link, just my evidence that we will be protected through the tribulation as Noah and his family were. As lot and his family were.

^ that's all spiritual and you better duck and seek wisdom.

Cause the sword of the Lord cuts both ways.

Everything that we need is foreshadowed in the feasts and fasts. Three of these feasts have not been fulfilled yet. The feast of trumpets heralds in the final blast of the shofar's that will in the end be the blasts heard around the world. The eastern gate will close its opening marked by Christ setting foot on the Mount of Olives which stands directly in front of the eastern gate. The High Priest is the only one who can open that gate and only on the true and correct day of Sabbath. Scripture shows us that the battle of Armageddon is in full swing when this happens we are not reserved for a pretribulational rapture we are preserved from the wrath and He will take care of His own.

You are wrong about the the rapture being at the 7th trumpet. You forgot to read your bible. It is after the Great Tribulation has begun. Paul is quite specific about when it is occurs. The antichrist must first be announced. From biblegateway.com 2 Thessalonians 2The Great Apostasy
Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, 2 not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come. 3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, 4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.

Your interpretation of the scripture is rudimentary and lacks spiritual understanding.

Because the Christians are mistranslating and quoting scripture incorrectly, Jesus Christ Himself is appearing to people world wide. I personally now some of these folks.
Jesus Christ Himself is telling us THERE WILL BE A SUDDEN TAKING OUT...there will be a "rapture".
Here is a fellow who had a visitation from the Lord recently where Jesus stressed we must warn people to repent and be ready as He is coming very suddenly to take His Bride out before the Tribulation.
Please don't argue with Jesus Christ. You shall be dearly sorry to do so!
"After my experience, the LORD told me To preach more on the subject of Heaven and Hell, HE also told me to focus on my assignment, not to be distracted, to continue sharing my experiences with people, weather anyone believes or not! The true believers will believe, they will know these experiences are from HIM! John:10:27: “My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me”. The LORD said:”Tell My People to repent absolutely and prepare for the RAPTURE; For I AM coming QUICKLY”

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Brother Mmusi is allowed visitations almost daily from Jesus. Much scripture is posted as well, often cited by Jesus Himself.
Another servant who has been told directly by Jesus that the rapture is about to happen is Susan Davis. Look up her free book online "Marriage Supper of the Lamb" It is very heavy with scripture and Jesus is coming to rapture the waiting ,holy bride. PREPARE YE THE WAY OF THE LORD

The pre trib rapture is correct. We worked very hard with Schofield and your media to make you buy into it.

Stupid G-yim.

How many toots of the horns (trumps) did it take for the walls of Jericho to fall down flat?

So will it be for the end times Babylon.

The servants of God were right there as the walls of Jericho came tumbling down.

Whether it is True or not,

it involves people doing nothing.

They are taken. They are raptured. They are gone.

I can't make myself do that, no matter what you say, even if I wanted to.

If it is True, Christ does it.

How do you think I am going to be deceived, but you, of course, will not?

I believe the Rapture is true.
I don't know it is true. I hope it is true.
If it is not true, and I go on to live or die, whatever... either way.. I'm fine.

So how do you say I am going to be deceived?

Speak truth.

Methhinks thou thinkest the greatest of thyself.

excellent wrap up

get it on!

The more men attack and condemn it

the more I believe it must be true.

Not true.
Invented by fundalmentalist cristians in the late 1800's.
It was a gimmick designed to make people feel better about
the apocalypse they were preaching about from the book of revelation.
"rapture" is not in the new or old testament

The rapture is a flesh event. The bible does not mince words.
From biblehub.com Matthew 24:The Abomination of Desolation
(Mark 13:14-23; Luke 21:20-24)

15When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) 16Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: 17Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: 18Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes. 19And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! 20But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: 21For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened. 23Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. 24For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. 25Behold, I have told you before.

Flesh is saved. Now read from biblehub.com 1Corinthians 15:50 50Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. So, flesh is saved but cannot enter the Kingdom. Why would one be left in the field and another taken if it is at the 7th trumpet? It doesn't happen then. It can't. From Revelation 11The Seventh Trumpet
15And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

Chronologically, the rapture happens after the 6th seal is opened. It happens at the DAY OF THE LORD just like Paul said in 2Thessalonians 2. From Revelation 6 biblehub.com12And I beheld, when He had opened the sixth seal and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became like blood; 13And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. 14And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. 15And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every slave {bondman}, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains, 16And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of Him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb; 17For the great day of His wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?
Then the 144,000 are sealed and the multitude is taken out. Chronologically, it is right after the day of the Lord starts and before the 7th seal is opened and NOT, I REPEAT, NOT!!!! AT THE 7TH TRUMPET!!!!!!! From biblehub.com Revelation 7 9After this I beheld and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands, 10And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God Who sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb. 11And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four living creatures {beasts}, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God, 12Saying, Amen! Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honor, and power, and might, be unto our God forever and ever. Amen.
13And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, Who are these who are arrayed in white robes? And from where did they come {whence came they}? 14And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they who came out of the great tribulation,( NOTE IT SAYS OUT OF THE GREAT TRIBULATION, NOT BEFORE AND NOT AFTER) and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. Note also they are still referred to as all nations, etc, and not unified under the Kingdom of God at the 7th trumpet.

There are SO many words banned on this site.
You can't even talk about the guy who sacks groceries
if you use the wrong word.

Pre-trib has you looking for Christ to come back first instead of the rise of the Deceiver. This is the danger in its belief. Do you see how looking the wrong way at the wrong time and where the concern is?

Any understanding one has of what is written belongs to God, so to say one mans is rudimentary while elevating ones own is just down right silliness.

The trump of God is the last which is also the 7th.

And satan will elevate himself as God, not announce that he is satan. If you're looking for an evil satan well you might just get one in all the mind games that will be played and then bow your knee to satan when he steps in to save the day.

The only time when satan will be fully revealed in the eyes of all mankind is when Christ comes like a thierf in the the night and rips the blinders off everyones eyes like a bandaid stuck to a scab.

Why does Christ come like a thief, and why is it in the night? Because satan is of the darkness and the world will think Christ has already returned. Talk about having the rug pulled out from under someone by a thief in the night..

The more Hollywood portrays it, the more I KNOW it is false.

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And what happens when you have an inclination that this entity that has come back claiming to be God whom everyone if following his angels off into portals is not who he says he is?

What are you going to do at that point with pieces from the armor of God (mostly His Wisdom aka Oil) missing when confronted with a supernatural angel that is about 1000% craftier than you.. when even strong delusion sent by God will abound???

What are you going to do not having your mind already sealed up with the Truth?

Every man insists he knows.

Every man insists the other is false.



You don't know. I don't know. We don't know.

We think we know. We believe. We have opinions.


Why does no one ever say I don't know?

Where is anyone ever sayind we don't know

so let's be go on serving and looking for our Master

that's because you are one of the deceived Newton. Hollywood has produced numerous movies about the bible itself as well as certain events in the bible....are they false too?..... of course not, and neither is the pre-trib rapture event.

Smoke a big fat one dude. You will see the light and much more.

This is going to be an amazing thread!
Blessings, friend.
Bump to read it all!

Unfortunately your wrong..

Matthew 5:37 But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.

There are some on which the following will fully apply..

2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

There will be NO rapture.