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Can everyone really not see what is about to happen to America?

 
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Obama phones aren't actually real...dumbass. I bet you are an Evangelist or a Pentocostal
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Our economy hinges on maintaining the petrodollar system. A devalued dollar means hyperinflation. The good news is we will be competitive with third world counties and we will bring back manufacturing jobs from China. The bad news is we will be living like the Chinese 30 years ago where the price of manufactured goods are out of reach for most.
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Now I get it:

MOVE FORWARD,YES WE CAN do the opposite.
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Obama phones aren't actually real...dumbass. I bet you are an Evangelist or a Pentocostal
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Gee I know some one who got a obongo phone. So that wasn't "actually real"?
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Hi. Here is the real scoop. Dollar is doomed. Central banks are now trading sdr's (standard drawing rights), instead of dollars. The world bank group, and the IMF are finalizing a "basket" of currencies including the dollar that will be used much like sdr's are used internationally. Much like the Euro, this currency would lower transaction costs between countries. The basket would include: the dollar the yen the mark the pound and the remembe and the Swiss franc. This would benefit tremendously thise additional currencies while hurting the dollar while maintain status quo for ourselves western and Asia trading nations.

The downside is the USA would suffer "declining terms of trade." If you travel overseas much especially in third world countries you will notice that dollar for dollar you are still paying MORE money eating out than in the USA. Look at the Big Mac index to get an idea for this concept - the idea is buying power. We will lose buying power and as Obola mentioned early on we will have to adjust our lifestyles tremendously.

Everything I said above is validated in international business journals and the financial times. Good luck dollartards.
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Great post! What is the best way to protect purchasing power for the millions of boomers holding dollar assets? PM's? Real estate?
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Thread: Economic collapse is inevitable

It will require NO EFFORT of some sinister group.to collapse the system. It will happen without anyone’s help. The US debt structure never paying anything off is the same fatal flaw. The economy will collapse regardless of the desire of any group. Yes these structural flaws could be fixed right now. But that requires government changing and letting go of some power. Hence, the collapse in inevitable.

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Hi. Here is the real scoop. Dollar is doomed. Central banks are now trading sdr's (standard drawing rights), instead of dollars. The world bank group, and the IMF are finalizing a "basket" of currencies including the dollar that will be used much like sdr's are used internationally. Much like the Euro, this currency would lower transaction costs between countries. The basket would include: the dollar the yen the mark the pound and the remembe and the Swiss franc. This would benefit tremendously thise additional currencies while hurting the dollar while maintain status quo for ourselves western and Asia trading nations.

The downside is the USA would suffer "declining terms of trade." If you travel overseas much especially in third world countries you will notice that dollar for dollar you are still paying MORE money eating out than in the USA. Look at the Big Mac index to get an idea for this concept - the idea is buying power. We will lose buying power and as Obola mentioned early on we will have to adjust our lifestyles tremendously.

Everything I said above is validated in international business journals and the financial times. Good luck dollartards.
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Great post! What is the best way to protect purchasing power for the millions of boomers holding dollar assets? PM's? Real estate?
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either of those choices would be fine, as long as nobody takes your PMs or your land. keep it hush-hush and be able to defend if needed.

follow what the elite do when collapse happens - they buy up land, resources, and ideas/corporations for pennies on the dollar. tangible assets are best(nothing equivalent to a paper IOU)
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Obama phones aren't actually real...dumbass. I bet you are an Evangelist or a Pentocostal
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Gee I know some one who got a obongo phone. So that wasn't "actually real"?
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[link to www.obamaphone.com]

20 million financially-strapped Americans now have a free cell phone and minutes, thanks to this important federal program.

Epic failure, AC. They are quite real and a result of Caesar Barry's socialist agenda.
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Obama phones aren't actually real...dumbass. I bet you are an Evangelist or a Pentocostal
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Gee I know some one who got a obongo phone. So that wasn't "actually real"?
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[link to www.obamaphone.com]

20 million financially-strapped Americans now have a free cell phone and minutes, thanks to this important federal program.

Epic failure, AC. They are quite real and a result of Caesar Barry's socialist agenda.
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Thanks NoD! Armstrong's ability to speak over the noise is very insightful IMO.
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Trillion dollar economies don't collapse they adjust.
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that would be only if this economy was not trillions IN DEBT!


look at it this way.....that economy is BROKE or worse.....running in the red....so yup it is actually worthless.


so why can it not collapse.....?
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I LIVED the first depression, and DON'T want to live through another !

Men with ten mile stare; bread/eggs $.12 a loaf/dozen; 20 firecrackers, all the way from China ... ONE penny !

The rich/elite of the town who stared right through you, like you were NOT THERE, even though the belonged to the same church !

Hunting for meat for the table; having a BIG garden; Mother slaving over hot canning jars in August and September. AND, wearing you brothers hand-me-downs.

It is RIGHT ON our door step, but most deny it, for the FEAR it engenders !

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eagle, bad as that was, people don't grow things now, people can't cook and don't hunt. They got zero skills in those areas, they only riot and loot, and look to the government for food and shelter. This time is really going to suck.
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Not true ...

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America, unless you repent, destruction comes soon. Chose wisely and walk in the light.
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1. When will this supposedly start?

2. How will it supposedly start?

3. What should we do to prepare if ever this actually were to happen?
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1. Around April/May/June next year - 2015

2. The oil price will start going through the roof due to "expensive oil" having been shut down and supply then reaching it's ceiling again.

3. Already start using your own currency as far as possible. A suggestion would be similar to "Minuto's", but everyone carves thier own coins from wood. The coin is worth the labour/time it took to carve. E.G., you spend an hour carving a coin, you mark it worth "1 hr". You start by insisting you wish to be paid in this currency for some of the work you do. You insist on paying someone who has done an odd job for you in this currency. Soon, everyone in the area will happily use this "money", and you have released yourselve's from Rothschilds worthless bits of coloured paper.

Anyone and everyone can either physically make thier own money, or "earn" it by being paid in it for work they do - either way, an hour, is an hour, is an hour. Irrespective of whether you sat for an hour and carved the coin, or whether you mended some-one's plumbing for an hour and they gave you a "coin" which you can spend elsewhere for it. The "hours value" is inherent in the "coin", the labour was spent to make it, so that coin genuinely has an hours labour embodied in it.

If a scum thief starts using a machine to make 80 coins a day instead of 8, and marking them as 1 hr instead of 1/10 of an hour, or "counterfitting" some-one elses "coin", then they are treated as any scum - simply ostracised from the community and everyone refuses thier coins for trade - thier plumbing simply stays broken and they find thier own food, while everyone else trades fairly and lives comfortably and peacefully.

When the economy collapses, your currency will still have the same value - it is fixed to labour, so is not subject to inflation, or any fictitious, fanciful, imaginined or arbitrary value.
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Well, they do very much when the dollar collapses first.
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The dollar won't collapse because the dollar is backed by the new coin of the realm technology and military might not the old coin of the realm petro dollar.
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What military might?? The USSA is on a very long losing streek..Korea, vietnam, iraq, afganistan, iraq again....
Hell, the vietcong beat the worlds biggest and badest with sks's, ak47's, rpg's, riceballs, bicycles, all while wearing PJ's...vs. b52's, helo's, unlimited bombs, troops and all the high tec of the day....Go figure
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Utter bullshit. No doubt you have heard that from the libtards running shit, but the opposite is the truth.

For starters, the VC were totally destroyed in the Tet offense--never to be more than a terror tool for the north after. In fact, Tet resulted in the biggest land victory for the US since WW2. The north was so shook up that it could barely do anything until '72. Somehow or another it was presented to America as a defeat. Check out the facts. The US military was not defeated there--the Dems surrendered by cutting supplies to the south after we had withdrawn all but a few small units. The south was stabbed in the back.

It's strange in how people will believe any kind of conspiracy, but they don't investigate the most important of events--military campaigns. You all believe bullshit that the likes of John Kerry pump you with--not a good scene for republic.
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WTF?? The USSA tucked its tail and ran..doesnt matter the facts, and tet was the blow that WON that war for the north.
A win is a win no matter how it happened...Now you tell me of just one win for the west since ww2...What about korea?? Iraq??? Afganistain??? With out the will to win and RIGHT on your side...YOU LOSE!!! History proves this....
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Full On Mary Jane Legalization in the
States of Strategic Importance...

Is major action planned for these areas
while the peeps are zoned out ?

**********************

" oh wow man, did you just see that ?"

"yeah man, that shit was like, straight out of 'call for duty 13' pass me the box of fruit loops and spark up a bowl dude"

"hey, did you hear that?"
" yeah man, what the fuck was that ?"
" I don't know man, but all the houses up the block are wasted"
" lol, fucking sweet, here, hit this and crank up the tunes"
" dude, this shits the bomb"

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Where it will be of most importance, most of the masses
will be shit faced or asleep when the SHTF !


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Trillion dollar economies don't collapse they adjust.
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Well, they do very much when the dollar collapses first.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64803995


The dollar won't collapse because the dollar is backed by the new coin of the realm technology and military might not the old coin of the realm petro dollar.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63706883


Obama neutered the American military.
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for such a smart avatar you are dumb as fuck.
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Care to add just why you think I'm dumb, anonymous coward?
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He cant, your spot on he was one of those you modestly made mention of in your title. There are no so blind as thospeacee who refuse to see! Good job OP!
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Is not this forum everyone seeing what is happening and about to happen to America all day every day?
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We've had collapses before... what makes this so different? (I agree w you that one is coming, but would like to keep the conversation going)
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The massive preparation that our government has undertaken has convinced me that, by their actions, they believe this coming collapse will make all previous collapses look like a kindergarten picnic. The have militarized law enforcement and stockpiled enough supplies and ammunition to fight a decade long war. They have seized control of the media, green lighted legislation to strip the rights of anybody they deem a threat. This controlled takeover is reminiscent of the Nazi parties 1930's takeover of Germany.
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In essence then doesn't it mean that the bondholders of this debt get to take over the assets of the borrower by default? In clearer terms - America ceases to exist as a sovereign nation and gets taken over by - in this case - China? We the citizens will be dealing with a regime change - new government, laws, etc. And goodbye to the Constitution. Is that why Obama is being so brazen with his executive orders. In the end it won't matter who is or isn't a US citizen sice it no longer will exist as a nation? Just asking.
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Just a matter of when at this point. I expect more riots next summer. Location will be everything....
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I dunno if it'll take that long. Obama, Holder, and their BFF Reverend Al have orchestrated riots in 153 American and Canadian cities. If they are able to "Ferguson" those cities, the Country will be all over, done, kaput. Just my humble opinion which, as Obama is so fond of proving, isn't worth a tinker's damn.
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OP is correct... clappa
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If you want to see what the future might hold do a Google search for grocery prices in Barrow Alaska.
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We've had collapses before... what makes this so different? (I agree w you that one is coming, but would like to keep the conversation going)
 Quoting: SeaCharger


The massive preparation that our government has undertaken has convinced me that, by their actions, they believe this coming collapse will make all previous collapses look like a kindergarten picnic. The have militarized law enforcement and stockpiled enough supplies and ammunition to fight a decade long war. They have seized control of the media, green lighted legislation to strip the rights of anybody they deem a threat. This controlled takeover is reminiscent of the Nazi parties 1930's takeover of Germany.
 Quoting: NewtonsOwn


In essence then doesn't it mean that the bondholders of this debt get to take over the assets of the borrower by default? In clearer terms - America ceases to exist as a sovereign nation and gets taken over by - in this case - China? We the citizens will be dealing with a regime change - new government, laws, etc. And goodbye to the Constitution. Is that why Obama is being so brazen with his executive orders. In the end it won't matter who is or isn't a US citizen sice it no longer will exist as a nation? Just asking.
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...but, wouldn't the Federal Reserve be the largest holder of U.S. debt? Meaning that they could never be removed and in fact own the U.S.
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POOF



funny monopoly money is worthless and they know it...





as the masses went crazy at walmarts across the country for slave day friday



for five dollas off


imagine how these sportshoppers will act when food is the prize



smartphones are not smart enough to createfood


maybe a neighborhood can buy a 3D printer for food, they love plastic so much...


eating it in margarine
that flys won't touch


stealing from themselves to buy some special Chinese plastic



to give the toxic gift, in all ways, to their children or loved ones



WAKE uP




Depends stock or products will not cover what is ahead



only the finest in spirit are even close to preparation, and even then, it topples hard Zion/Babylon
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Thread: Economic collapse is inevitable

It will require NO EFFORT of some sinister group.to collapse the system. It will happen without anyone’s help. The US debt structure never paying anything off is the same fatal flaw. The economy will collapse regardless of the desire of any group. Yes these structural flaws could be fixed right now. But that requires government changing and letting go of some power. Hence, the collapse in inevitable.

- - Martin Armstrong

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Thanks. Always, like hearing Martin's thoughts.


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Trillion dollar economies don't collapse they adjust.
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Well, they do very much when the dollar collapses first.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64803995


The dollar won't collapse because the dollar is backed by the new coin of the realm technology and military might not the old coin of the realm petro dollar.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63706883


Obama neutered the American military.
 Quoting: Squidbillie Girl


Obama by himself - if the military was doing it's job - would have zero ability to neuter the military.
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Full On Mary Jane Legalization in the
States of Strategic Importance...

Is major action planned for these areas
while the peeps are zoned out ?

**********************

" oh wow man, did you just see that ?"

"yeah man, that shit was like, straight out of 'call for duty 13' pass me the box of fruit loops and spark up a bowl dude"

"hey, did you hear that?"
" yeah man, what the fuck was that ?"
" I don't know man, but all the houses up the block are wasted"
" lol, fucking sweet, here, hit this and crank up the tunes"
" dude, this shits the bomb"

************************

Where it will be of most importance, most of the masses
will be shit faced or asleep when the SHTF !


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Wrong. Cannabis is curative, purifying, and helps you think more clearly and cognitively. It helps shed the many cumulative scales of filth that have been forced on the masses to block our spiritual and mental acuity. Don't believe the propaganda. Fluoride, GMOs, mainstream media, chemical pesticides, alcohol, processed sugar, and pharmaceuticals have made people blind, stupid, and robot-like, easily controlled by evil forces. Cannabis melts all this away and makes you a real human again--when used properly, of course.
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Well, they do very much when the dollar collapses first.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64803995


The dollar won't collapse because the dollar is backed by the new coin of the realm technology and military might not the old coin of the realm petro dollar.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63706883


Obama neutered the American military.
 Quoting: Squidbillie Girl


Obama by himself - if the military was doing it's job - would have zero ability to neuter the military.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65702922


Exactly. The American military should have arrested that illegal, criminal thug a long time ago. But they are rejecting the oath they took, and are thus just as guilty as the thug himself.
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The value of the US dollar is determined in large part by the fact that oil is sold in US dollars. If that trade shifts to a different currency, countries around the world won't need all their US money. The resulting sell-off of US dollars would weaken the currency dramatically.

So here's an interesting thought experiment. Everybody says the US goes to war to protect its oil supplies, but doesn't it really go to war to ensure the continuation of the petrodollar system?

The Iraq war provides a good example. Until November 2000, no OPEC country had dared to violate the US dollar-pricing rule, and while the US dollar remained the strongest currency in the world there was also little reason to challenge the system. But in late 2000, France and a few other EU members convinced Saddam Hussein to defy the petrodollar process and sell Iraq's oil for food in euros, not dollars. In the time between then and the March 2003 American invasion of Iraq, several other nations hinted at their interest in non-US dollar oil trading, including Russia, Iran, Indonesia, and even Venezuela. In April 2002, Iranian OPEC representative Javad Yarjani was invited to Spain by the EU to deliver a detailed analysis of how OPEC might at some point sell its oil to the EU for euros, not dollars.

This movement, founded in Iraq, was starting to threaten the dominance of the US dollar as the global reserve currency and petro currency. In March 2003, the US invaded Iraq, ending the oil-for-food program and its euro payment program.

There are many other historic examples of the US stepping in to halt a movement away from the petrodollar system, often in covert ways. In February 2011 Dominique Strauss-Kahn, managing director of the International Monetary Fund (IMF), called for a new world currency to challenge the dominance of the US dollar. Three months later a maid at the Sofitel New York Hotel alleged that Strauss-Kahn sexually assaulted her. Strauss-Kahn was forced out of his role at the IMF within weeks; he has since been cleared of any wrongdoing.

War and insidious interventions of this sort may be costly, but the costs of not protecting the petrodollar system would be far higher. If euros, yen, renminbi, rubles, or for that matter straight gold, were generally accepted for oil, the US dollar would quickly become irrelevant, rendering the currency almost worthless. As the rest of the world realizes that there are other options besides the US dollar for global transactions, the US is facing a very significant – and very messy – transition in the global oil machine.
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Notice all the tanks that are showing up everywhere ? Like Ferguson and buffalo for the snow and all over the highways. Remember what NWO dirt bag Kissinger said? That life should be so miserable that America wilk beg for the army to show up? Look at how Obama and holder are trying to incite rioting? Look at how black kids just beat a white man to death with a hammer? That's just the beginning. This is the last Christmas America will have before martial law. OP is right. Wakeup and get right with Jesus Christ. You won't get a second chance if you die without Him.
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