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Kai (VALIS)
User ID: 19402590 United States 12/04/2014 04:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Theme would be so boring without variations...with out disharmony. Quoting: Kai (VALIS) It's just about tuning the disharmony away from violence and toward a game with no casualties. This world isn't mean't to be anything other than disharmony Always has been. If no disharmony it will cease to exist. We know. That's why we like it here. Never ending video game. Until you wake up I always just go back in. I like it in here. - The Spider Kid |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65750358 Canada 12/04/2014 04:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65750358 I intuitively know Wiccan Teaching without having to study them An Intuit Indiah eh? Some think I was Blavatsky, others think I was Hitler or King Herod Any at rate I just know things without having to study them It's because you are a scripted bot in a program. Bleep Bleep |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65750358 Canada 12/04/2014 04:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65750358 This world isn't mean't to be anything other than disharmony Always has been. If no disharmony it will cease to exist. We know. That's why we like it here. Never ending video game. Until you wake up I always just go back in. I like it in here. You must be a masochist |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 45107896 United States 12/04/2014 04:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Theme would be so boring without variations...with out disharmony. Quoting: Kai (VALIS) It's just about tuning the disharmony away from violence and toward a game with no casualties. This world isn't mean't to be anything other than disharmony Always has been. If no disharmony it will cease to exist. We know. That's why we like it here. Never ending video game. Has human progression not been the attempt to escape the prospect of their own disharmony and the disharmony of themselves with their immediate collective contemporaries (family, community, class)? |
Open Your Eyes OYE
User ID: 19607339 United States 12/04/2014 04:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Some think I was Blavatsky, others think I was Hitler or King Herod Any at rate I just know things without having to study them It's because you are a scripted bot in a program. Bleep Bleep Could be Last Edited by Open Your Eyes OYE on 12/04/2014 04:20 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65750358 Canada 12/04/2014 04:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45107896 So you believe all of those things are the same? There is no difference any way? Or all difference is purely physical/geometrical and there is no 'meaning' beyond the physical orientations and interactions of substance? More like they are all variations on the same thing. Infinite space creates infinite variables and possibilities or versions. But they all have the same solution: merger of duality through wise mind, understanding, mutual empathy. Hm, there is some iffiness about what you just said. 'they are all variations on the same thing' what do you mean? You are not really answering my questions well enough, I am sorry. How is Good and Evil 'the same' and also 'solved with understanding and mutual empathy', if they are both the same, meaning nothing really matters, all is permitted so to speak, why is a solution needed, and what is a solution solving? and what is the point? And where does mutual empathy fit in in regards to Evil and chaos and dark side? And a lot more questions, but if you dont impress me with your reply I cant bother to talk to you any more. Not what I meant. Good/evil is a duality. It is the same as Light/dark. Each is a dualist approach to discerning meaning from intention/action/consequence. Each has its purpose: to create discord, thus creating individuality. However, they are illusions in the sense that nothing is so simple as a duality. This place is infinitely complex. Sorry but this place is predictable as fuck |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65750358 Canada 12/04/2014 04:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Some think I was Blavatsky, others think I was Hitler or King Herod Any at rate I just know things without having to study them It's because you are a scripted bot in a program. Bleep Bleep Could be Why else would you be scripted to know stuff? Who or what is feeding you the information Mr. Einstein? |
Open Your Eyes OYE
User ID: 19607339 United States 12/04/2014 04:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Open Your Eyes OYE Some think I was Blavatsky, others think I was Hitler or King Herod Any at rate I just know things without having to study them It's because you are a scripted bot in a program. Bleep Bleep Could be Why else would you be scripted to know stuff? Who or what is feeding you the information Mr. Einstein? Because I am on Earth for a purpose And the information I have is necessary for that purpose Last Edited by Open Your Eyes OYE on 12/04/2014 04:22 PM |
Kai (VALIS)
User ID: 19402590 United States 12/04/2014 04:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Theme would be so boring without variations...with out disharmony. Quoting: Kai (VALIS) It's just about tuning the disharmony away from violence and toward a game with no casualties. This world isn't mean't to be anything other than disharmony Always has been. If no disharmony it will cease to exist. We know. That's why we like it here. Never ending video game. Has human progression not been the attempt to escape the prospect of their own disharmony and the disharmony of themselves with their immediate collective contemporaries (family, community, class)? Sometimes. It's the whole convergence/singularity concept. Some people want it. Some people don't. Personally I'd like both. Shared perception while maintaining individuality. Interact peacefully with other entities and engage in non-harmful combat with those who like that sort of thing. - The Spider Kid |
Kai (VALIS)
User ID: 19402590 United States 12/04/2014 04:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Kai (VALIS) More like they are all variations on the same thing. Infinite space creates infinite variables and possibilities or versions. But they all have the same solution: merger of duality through wise mind, understanding, mutual empathy. Hm, there is some iffiness about what you just said. 'they are all variations on the same thing' what do you mean? You are not really answering my questions well enough, I am sorry. How is Good and Evil 'the same' and also 'solved with understanding and mutual empathy', if they are both the same, meaning nothing really matters, all is permitted so to speak, why is a solution needed, and what is a solution solving? and what is the point? And where does mutual empathy fit in in regards to Evil and chaos and dark side? And a lot more questions, but if you dont impress me with your reply I cant bother to talk to you any more. Not what I meant. Good/evil is a duality. It is the same as Light/dark. Each is a dualist approach to discerning meaning from intention/action/consequence. Each has its purpose: to create discord, thus creating individuality. However, they are illusions in the sense that nothing is so simple as a duality. This place is infinitely complex. Sorry but this place is predictable as fuck I didn't say it wasn't predictable. I said it was complex. And you gotta admit, every once in a while something new comes along. - The Spider Kid |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65750358 Canada 12/04/2014 04:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why else would you be scripted to know stuff? Who or what is feeding you the information Mr. Einstein? Because I am on Earth for a purpose How do you know you are on this so-called Earth? Purpose only comes from EGO which always is looking for meaning when there is none This projection is meaningless shit other than to experience a certain role (at best) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65750358 Canada 12/04/2014 04:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why else would you be scripted to know stuff? Who or what is feeding you the information Mr. Einstein? Because I am on Earth for a purpose How do you know you are on this so-called Earth? Purpose only comes from EGO which always is looking for meaning when there is none This projection is meaningless shit other than to experience a certain role (at best) |
Tampa Heather
(OP) User ID: 64674015 United States 12/04/2014 04:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Open Your Eyes OYE I told you to spill it If you don't share it, you are just as 'bad' as the dark side Because you are not teaching to those willing to listen to you, you seem to want to only using the information for your own personal power It's not that simple. Everything must be done with moderation, lest we do more damage to the connection. :( I assume this is why most just keep their mouth shut... Oh well...I tried, I'm not giving up...just taking a break... Heather - I made a discovery less than a year ago that blew my mind. It has had a profound effect on who I am. I did some searching on google to see if anybody had discovered it and written about it in the form that I discovered and was shocked that it was not out there anywhere on the net. It is something that is not hidden really, but is probably more accessable if you like numbers. There is some mention of it in the bible though not in the form which I discovered. I am trying to figure out how it fits together and purpose of the biblical reference. It is truely something almost anybody could see if I told them, yet no one does it seems as no one has mentioned it. It is hard to explain without telling all. I feel that I must not share this secret until I have a better overall understanding of why it exists and what the purpose of its existence is as well as how it can and should be used. My inner conscience tells me I must keep it a secret for now even though I would love to share. It could be good for mankind or perhaps it could be dangerous, I don't know yet. I don't know why I am sharing this with you, but perhaps there is some connection or maybe not. It feels like you're close...keep digging...and if you want to PM me a direct question I will answer if I'm allowed... Keep your head up my friend :) What doesn't kill me only makes me stronger... |
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Kai (VALIS)
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 65750358 Canada 12/04/2014 04:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45107896 Hm, there is some iffiness about what you just said. 'they are all variations on the same thing' what do you mean? You are not really answering my questions well enough, I am sorry. How is Good and Evil 'the same' and also 'solved with understanding and mutual empathy', if they are both the same, meaning nothing really matters, all is permitted so to speak, why is a solution needed, and what is a solution solving? and what is the point? And where does mutual empathy fit in in regards to Evil and chaos and dark side? And a lot more questions, but if you dont impress me with your reply I cant bother to talk to you any more. Not what I meant. Good/evil is a duality. It is the same as Light/dark. Each is a dualist approach to discerning meaning from intention/action/consequence. Each has its purpose: to create discord, thus creating individuality. However, they are illusions in the sense that nothing is so simple as a duality. This place is infinitely complex. Sorry but this place is predictable as fuck I didn't say it wasn't predictable. I said it was complex. And you gotta admit, every once in a while something new comes along. Complex..hardly.. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 45107896 United States 12/04/2014 04:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45107896 So you believe all of those things are the same? There is no difference any way? Or all difference is purely physical/geometrical and there is no 'meaning' beyond the physical orientations and interactions of substance? More like they are all variations on the same thing. Infinite space creates infinite variables and possibilities or versions. But they all have the same solution: merger of duality through wise mind, understanding, mutual empathy. Hm, there is some iffiness about what you just said. 'they are all variations on the same thing' what do you mean? You are not really answering my questions well enough, I am sorry. How is Good and Evil 'the same' and also 'solved with understanding and mutual empathy', if they are both the same, meaning nothing really matters, all is permitted so to speak, why is a solution needed, and what is a solution solving? and what is the point? And where does mutual empathy fit in in regards to Evil and chaos and dark side? And a lot more questions, but if you dont impress me with your reply I cant bother to talk to you any more. Not what I meant. Good/evil is a duality. It is the same as Light/dark. Each is a dualist approach to discerning meaning from intention/action/consequence. Each has its purpose: to create discord, thus creating individuality. However, they are illusions in the sense that nothing is so simple as a duality. This place is infinitely complex. Ah, yes! We have arrived at a disagreement. I think Good, is ultimate primary. And the ultimate value in relation to a being who shares 'family', and then although the world is a mess right now, community and species in general. So yes, lets focus on one of the dualistic approaches, or the more important ones, instead of being so general as to compare them so easily and lump them together. The true nature of light, as in EM radiation, and dark, is hardly a good comparison, but if you mean the concept of light and dark, as in good and evil, well then we are just speaking about good and evil, which I believe is one of the most important concepts to human and humanity. If you know of another very important dual concept, please state it and we can discuss it. Positive and negative, again, if not speaking about magnetic, this is related to good and evil, so lets just stick to one, unless you have other separate ones. Is creating individuality the highest purpose? Obviously in a sense, for the individual, the nature of being, is solely dependent on the very tautological concept of an individual manning its way through its being through the realm it finds itself thrust into being, in. But, this says nothing about the potential value systems and powers regarding the creating of the realm, the shaping of the realm, the shaping of the individual, the shaping of individuals, for better and for worse, and why. |
Open Your Eyes OYE
User ID: 19607339 United States 12/04/2014 04:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why else would you be scripted to know stuff? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65750358 Who or what is feeding you the information Mr. Einstein? Because I am on Earth for a purpose How do you know you are on this so-called Earth? Purpose only comes from EGO which always is looking for meaning when there is none This projection is meaningless shit other than to experience a certain role (at best) Your advice encourages no progress |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 65750358 Canada 12/04/2014 04:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why else would you be scripted to know stuff? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65750358 Who or what is feeding you the information Mr. Einstein? Because I am on Earth for a purpose How do you know you are on this so-called Earth? Purpose only comes from EGO which always is looking for meaning when there is none This projection is meaningless shit other than to experience a certain role (at best) Your advice encourages no progress Progress implies movement when there is no space to go anywhere You just go from point a to point b ad infinitum To encourage is to discourage |
Kai (VALIS)
User ID: 19402590 United States 12/04/2014 04:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Kai (VALIS) More like they are all variations on the same thing. Infinite space creates infinite variables and possibilities or versions. But they all have the same solution: merger of duality through wise mind, understanding, mutual empathy. Hm, there is some iffiness about what you just said. 'they are all variations on the same thing' what do you mean? You are not really answering my questions well enough, I am sorry. How is Good and Evil 'the same' and also 'solved with understanding and mutual empathy', if they are both the same, meaning nothing really matters, all is permitted so to speak, why is a solution needed, and what is a solution solving? and what is the point? And where does mutual empathy fit in in regards to Evil and chaos and dark side? And a lot more questions, but if you dont impress me with your reply I cant bother to talk to you any more. Not what I meant. Good/evil is a duality. It is the same as Light/dark. Each is a dualist approach to discerning meaning from intention/action/consequence. Each has its purpose: to create discord, thus creating individuality. However, they are illusions in the sense that nothing is so simple as a duality. This place is infinitely complex. Ah, yes! We have arrived at a disagreement. I think Good, is ultimate primary. And the ultimate value in relation to a being who shares 'family', and then although the world is a mess right now, community and species in general. So yes, lets focus on one of the dualistic approaches, or the more important ones, instead of being so general as to compare them so easily and lump them together. The true nature of light, as in EM radiation, and dark, is hardly a good comparison, but if you mean the concept of light and dark, as in good and evil, well then we are just speaking about good and evil, which I believe is one of the most important concepts to human and humanity. If you know of another very important dual concept, please state it and we can discuss it. Positive and negative, again, if not speaking about magnetic, this is related to good and evil, so lets just stick to one, unless you have other separate ones. Is creating individuality the highest purpose? Obviously in a sense, for the individual, the nature of being, is solely dependent on the very tautological concept of an individual manning its way through its being through the realm it finds itself thrust into being, in. But, this says nothing about the potential value systems and powers regarding the creating of the realm, the shaping of the realm, the shaping of the individual, the shaping of individuals, for better and for worse, and why. Man...I want to get into this but I have to do go do some work. Can you repost this on my Terminal Question thread and we can play later? - The Spider Kid |
Open Your Eyes OYE
User ID: 19607339 United States 12/04/2014 04:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How do you know you are on this so-called Earth? Purpose only comes from EGO which always is looking for meaning when there is none This projection is meaningless shit other than to experience a certain role (at best) Your advice encourages no progress Progress implies movement when there is no space to go anywhere You just go from point a to point b ad infinitum To encourage is to discourage What would be your advice then? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 45107896 United States 12/04/2014 04:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65750358 This world isn't mean't to be anything other than disharmony Always has been. If no disharmony it will cease to exist. We know. That's why we like it here. Never ending video game. Has human progression not been the attempt to escape the prospect of their own disharmony and the disharmony of themselves with their immediate collective contemporaries (family, community, class)? Sometimes. It's the whole convergence/singularity concept. Some people want it. Some people don't. Personally I'd like both. Shared perception while maintaining individuality. Interact peacefully with other entities and engage in non-harmful combat with those who like that sort of thing. What human desires themselves to be disharmonious, imagining the nature of a self being disharmonious, being physically sick, diseased, dying. A body is a very complex order. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65750358 Canada 12/04/2014 04:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65750358 How do you know you are on this so-called Earth? Purpose only comes from EGO which always is looking for meaning when there is none This projection is meaningless shit other than to experience a certain role (at best) Your advice encourages no progress Progress implies movement when there is no space to go anywhere You just go from point a to point b ad infinitum To encourage is to discourage What would be your advice then? Lie to them as a good scriptwriter would do Tell them there is purpose and meaning Tell them there is free will It's the only way Can't be done any other way I'm afraid |
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Kai (VALIS)
User ID: 19402590 United States 12/04/2014 04:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Has human progression not been the attempt to escape the prospect of their own disharmony and the disharmony of themselves with their immediate collective contemporaries (family, community, class)? Sometimes. It's the whole convergence/singularity concept. Some people want it. Some people don't. Personally I'd like both. Shared perception while maintaining individuality. Interact peacefully with other entities and engage in non-harmful combat with those who like that sort of thing. What human desires themselves to be disharmonious, imagining the nature of a self being disharmonious, being physically sick, diseased, dying. A body is a very complex order. I think in most cases it is an unconscious symptom of the ego's desire for growth. - The Spider Kid |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65750358 Canada 12/04/2014 04:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Has human progression not been the attempt to escape the prospect of their own disharmony and the disharmony of themselves with their immediate collective contemporaries (family, community, class)? Sometimes. It's the whole convergence/singularity concept. Some people want it. Some people don't. Personally I'd like both. Shared perception while maintaining individuality. Interact peacefully with other entities and engage in non-harmful combat with those who like that sort of thing. What human desires themselves to be disharmonious, imagining the nature of a self being disharmonious, being physically sick, diseased, dying. A body is a very complex order. It's all in the mind. Disharmony is nothing without harmony The body only has the APPEARANCE of complex order ;) |
Kai (VALIS)
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 65750358 Canada 12/04/2014 04:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Who is fucking with my typing Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65750358 Mister Ununited Kingdumb? It's kinda funny Looks like they want to play too. :) I like playing I miss my sandbox :( ...ahh...but can you play nice? Sometimes |