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So Much For That Patriotic American Entrepreneurialism.....GOOD LUCK GETTING A FUCKING MORTGAGE IF YOUR SELF - EMPLOYED

 
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t's never been easy to get a mortgage if you're self-employed. But a recent analysis of mortgage data shows just how much harder it is.

Getting lenders to quote you a rate is tougher if you don't work for someone else, according to a report Thursday from real estate researcher Zillow.

Though they typically have higher incomes, put more money down and buy bigger homes, self-employed online mortgage shoppers got just six loan quotes from lenders for every 10 offered to borrowers who aren't self-employed, Zillow found.

"That's the first battle," said Erin Lantz, vice president of mortgages at Zillow."The second battle is actually getting through all the paperwork."

Read More Unsteady incomes keep millions behind on bills
Regardless of their employment status, mortgage applicants today need to be prepared for a time-consuming paper chase. For a salaried worker, a batch of W-2 forms, pay stubs and bank statements will get the ball rolling. For the self-employed, the work has just gotten started.

"For a self-employed borrower, we have to look at two years of tax returns and if they're incorporated we have to look at a corporate return," said Amy Tierce, a regional vice president for Wintrust Mortgage in Boston. "So we're looking at way more a paperwork for the self employed borrower than we are for the salaried borrower. It can feel very onerous to keep supplying stuff."

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Just find a nice Jewish landlord and keep renting.
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now is a very good time to be "mobile" anyhow
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Or an Artist ... a thinker / self scholar ... an independant writer , reader of worthwhile intellectual stuff , an individual ...

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Ya, I'm totally not happy to annouce that I have no future ...
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Maybe the problem is not that you are self-employed.

Maybe the problem is that you wrote the word "your" on the mortgage application when you should have used "you're" or "you are" and they saw right through that.

Busted.
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Maybe the problem is not that you are self-employed.

Maybe the problem is that you wrote the word "your" on the mortgage application when you should have used "you're" or "you are" and they saw right through that.

Busted.
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Maybe the problem is not that you are self-employed.

Maybe the problem is that you wrote the word "your" on the mortgage application when you should have used "you're" or "you are" and they saw right through that.

Busted.
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The day I give a fuck , I'll let you know.
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Try living in the country.

If they can not find a equally priced house that has sold in the last six months then your screwed also.

We we denied because we live in an area where there are century farms..there fore they haven't sold in 3 or 5 generations. They are large spreads and with little other houses in between.

How is that my issue. and they wanted 2 years of taxes. My other half works at a major brewery and makes over six figures with no credit card debt and excellent credit score...still took months.

We wanted to refinance for a new project...I can't wait until it's up and going billboards will go up saying how unfriendly the local community back really are!

Screw the banks they f'ed us all and now you almost have to beg borrow and steal to get a loan.
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Self-employed and work with buyers and lenders on daily basis. Just did a va stream line re-fi in days, no problem. And doing another in the new year on primary residence which will wrap up he-loc and $$ out...shouldn't be a problem either.

Good credit and income are key. Only thing that held me up is tax filing...tounge

Screw the IRS, but if we want to play we have to pay.....
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Try living in the country.

If they can not find a equally priced house that has sold in the last six months then your screwed also.

We we denied because we live in an area where there are century farms..there fore they haven't sold in 3 or 5 generations. They are large spreads and with little other houses in between.

How is that my issue. and they wanted 2 years of taxes. My other half works at a major brewery and makes over six figures with no credit card debt and excellent credit score...still took months.

We wanted to refinance for a new project...I can't wait until it's up and going billboards will go up saying how unfriendly the local community back really are!

Screw the banks they f'ed us all and now you almost have to beg borrow and steal to get a loan.
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It's actually 3 equal lists and 3 solds for comparison purposes. They can increase the mileage and aging for rural but if the comps are not there...they are not there....sucks.
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And one more thing; if your incorporation is not benefiting you...tax wise or law suit wise...as a self employed...quit it.

Unless you are making upwards of 300k as inc. , LLC, s corp. etc it is really not to your advantage unless you are using it to protect assets from lawsuits.

You basically have the same write offs as self employed it just goes to the FED with pink flag vs red flag for audit.

Just my 2 cents and it ain't worth 1.
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I get that...but small community backs are suppose be there for the community. We had done business with out bank for nearly 20 years and then they were bought out by Great Southern back...they BLOW

Went with quicken and got it no problem

by they was the did increase the range from 3.5 miles to 7 there are farms here that 3 would take up the 7 miles and are century farms that haven;t sold in a century..get it?!
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With an 80% CASH down payment in hand, my regional Arvest (the Walton family) would not give me a loan of the 20% needed to pay for a house.

It took a powerful person locally to call her personal banker and insist on giving me a loan, with a bank I had no account with. That was three months ago and the loan, and house, is now paid off.

But the Walmart Family bank, Arvest, where I do business for three years would not give me a lousy $20K loan. What bank wouldn't want to be first lien holder on a house that was 80% paid off?!?

Made no sense. Yes, self-employed and everything, everything is paid for outright, no debt. And we get penalized for this.
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Don't worry, guys. I see an entrepreneurial Jew coming up with a solution. You won't like the interest and terms, but it will be offered at some point.
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We would have the same problem when we were self employed.

Even when working part time (weekends)at a the major brewery, then went full time and worked 7 days a week for 4 years the local banks still hemmed and hawed at loaning

When the shit hits the fan they will be remembered!!
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I get that...but small community backs are suppose be there for the community. We had done business with out bank for nearly 20 years and then they were bought out by Great Southern back...they BLOW

Went with quicken and got it no problem

by they was the did increase the range from 3.5 miles to 7 there are farms here that 3 would take up the 7 miles and are century farms that haven;t sold in a century..get it?!
 Quoting: Space Billie 65464141


Yes I do, I do broker price comparison's on a daily basis to supplement our income. Some times a property simply can't be comp'ed. Than it is time for a real appraisal.

Try doin fa 10 mil property in Annapolis Maryland in today's economy...lol!
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[link to www.cnbc.com]


t's never been easy to get a mortgage if you're self-employed. But a recent analysis of mortgage data shows just how much harder it is.

Getting lenders to quote you a rate is tougher if you don't work for someone else, according to a report Thursday from real estate researcher Zillow.

Though they typically have higher incomes, put more money down and buy bigger homes, self-employed online mortgage shoppers got just six loan quotes from lenders for every 10 offered to borrowers who aren't self-employed, Zillow found.

"That's the first battle," said Erin Lantz, vice president of mortgages at Zillow."The second battle is actually getting through all the paperwork."

Read More Unsteady incomes keep millions behind on bills
Regardless of their employment status, mortgage applicants today need to be prepared for a time-consuming paper chase. For a salaried worker, a batch of W-2 forms, pay stubs and bank statements will get the ball rolling. For the self-employed, the work has just gotten started.

"For a self-employed borrower, we have to look at two years of tax returns and if they're incorporated we have to look at a corporate return," said Amy Tierce, a regional vice president for Wintrust Mortgage in Boston. "So we're looking at way more a paperwork for the self employed borrower than we are for the salaried borrower. It can feel very onerous to keep supplying stuff."

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The model customer (debt slave) that is desired by a lender is not a self employed person.

In the lenders view, you must be a round peg in a round hole.

A square peg doesn't cut it.
"One person with courage is a majority." - Thomas Jefferson

"You’ve heard that we are what we eat. But we also are what we think".

“Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views."
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It is also year end; so old loan products and funds for them are maxed and new ones are getting ready to emerge.
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Space Billie... That is funny. When we see a buyer with quicken we cringe...tounge

Good for you for checking all options.
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[link to www.cnbc.com]


t's never been easy to get a mortgage if you're self-employed. But a recent analysis of mortgage data shows just how much harder it is.

Getting lenders to quote you a rate is tougher if you don't work for someone else, according to a report Thursday from real estate researcher Zillow.

Though they typically have higher incomes, put more money down and buy bigger homes, self-employed online mortgage shoppers got just six loan quotes from lenders for every 10 offered to borrowers who aren't self-employed, Zillow found.

"That's the first battle," said Erin Lantz, vice president of mortgages at Zillow."The second battle is actually getting through all the paperwork."

Read More Unsteady incomes keep millions behind on bills
Regardless of their employment status, mortgage applicants today need to be prepared for a time-consuming paper chase. For a salaried worker, a batch of W-2 forms, pay stubs and bank statements will get the ball rolling. For the self-employed, the work has just gotten started.

"For a self-employed borrower, we have to look at two years of tax returns and if they're incorporated we have to look at a corporate return," said Amy Tierce, a regional vice president for Wintrust Mortgage in Boston. "So we're looking at way more a paperwork for the self employed borrower than we are for the salaried borrower. It can feel very onerous to keep supplying stuff."

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Don't let the blacks hear that the word slave is used.. They will instantly presume the Romans sailed to africa, caught their ancestors and took em back to fight for the white and they DEMAND REPARATIONS
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Self employed, there isn’t that much paperwork they look at my W-2, my tax return and my K-1 and bank statements as well as 2 years of corporate tax record. None of that should be hard to give, the only annoying part would be if you have money deposited into your bank account that doesn’t correlate with any of these you have to prove what it’s from.

I’ve gotten 4 mortgages over the last 8 years and it’s never more then a quick visit with me dropping off paperwork and then calling me telling me they lost half of it so drop it off again and then they’re all good .

Something about mortgage lenders and losing paperwork, all 4 of my mortgages were the same routine. If you are newly self employed they are unlikely to lend until you can show at least two years of success which isn’t unreasonable considering you are asking them for hundreds of thousands to front you

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