What Jesus went through from A medical perspective | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62955156 United States 12/25/2014 09:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In the early morning, battered and bruised, dehydrated, and worn out from a sleepless night, Jesus was taken across Jerusalem to the Praetorium of the Fortress Antonia, the seat of government of the Procurator of Judea, Pontius Pilate. We are familiar with Pilate's action in attempting to shift responsibility to Herod Antipas, the Tetrarch of Judea. Jesus apparently suffered no physical mistreatment at the hands of Herod and was returned to Pilate. It was then, in response to the outcry of the mob, that Pilate ordered Barabbas released and condemned Jesus to scourging and crucifixion. Preparations for Jesus' scourging were carried out at Caesar's orders. The prisoner was stripped of His clothing and His hands tied to a post above His head. The Roman legionnaire stepped forward with the flagrum, or flagellum, in his hand. This was a short whip consisting of several heavy, leather thongs with two small balls of lead attached near the ends of each. The heavy whip was brought down with full force again and again across Jesus' shoulders, back, and legs. At first the weighted thongs cut through the skin only. Then, as the blows continued, they cut deeper into the subcutaneous tissues, producing first an oozing of blood from the capillaries and veins of the skin and finally spurting arterial bleeding from vessels in the underlying muscles. The small balls of lead first produced large deep bruises that were broken open by subsequent blows. Finally, the skin of the back was hanging in long ribbons, and the entire area was an unrecognizable mass of torn, bleeding tissue. When it was determined by the centurion in charge that the prisoner was near death, the beating was finally stopped. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 62955156 United States 12/25/2014 09:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As Jesus slowly sagged down with more weight on the nails in the wrists, excruciating, fiery pain shot along the fingers and up the arms to explode in the brain. The nails in the wrists were putting pressure on the median nerve, large nerve trunks which traverse the mid-wrist and hand. As He pushed himself upward to avoid this stretching torment, He placed His full weight on the nail through His feet. Again there was searing agony as the nail tore through the nerves between the metatarsal bones of this feet. At this point, another phenomenon occurred. As the arms fatigued, great waves of cramps swept over the muscles, knotting them in deep relentless, throbbing pain. With these cramps came the inability to push Himself upward. Hanging by the arm, the pectoral muscles, the large muscles of the chest, were paralyzed and the intercostal muscles, the small muscles between the ribs, were unable to act. Air could be drawn into the lungs, but could not be exhaled. Jesus fought to raise Himself in order to get even one short breath. Finally, the carbon dioxide level increased in the lungs and in the blood stream, and the cramps partially subsided. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62955156 United States 12/25/2014 09:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Apparently, to make doubly sure of death, the legionnaire drove his lance between the ribs, upward through the pericardium and into the heart. John 19:34 states, "And immediately there came out blood and water." Thus there was an escape of watery fluid from the sac surrounding the heart and the blood of the interior of the heart. This is rather conclusive post-mortem evidence that Jesus died, not the usual crucifixion death by suffocation, but of heart failure due to shock and constriction of the heart by fluid in the pericardium. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 63893074 United States 12/26/2014 01:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, why the Father allow His holy son to suffer like that? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18420867 God, indeed, work in mysterious ways. In the eyes of God, the one who suffer is receiving a gift. Maybe, because suffering is the only way to grow up spiritually. He suffered every penalty for sin . Even tho he never commited a sin This was done as a sacrifice for us . Key scripture to meditate on 5 But he was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was on him, and by his wounds we are healed. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 66245398 United States 12/26/2014 01:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, why the Father allow His holy son to suffer like that? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18420867 God, indeed, work in mysterious ways. In the eyes of God, the one who suffer is receiving a gift. Maybe, because suffering is the only way to grow up spiritually. There was a link on here somewhere (this website) that referred to some ancient codex's found in Egypt (I think). They referred to the descent of Jesus. Which is the opposite of what is happening now. Which is the ascent. Ascension and Descension. Falling from the light into the darkness (descent) Rising up from the darkness back into the light (ascension) It is tied to the new world that is about to open up to all of us. The ascent. The descent was necessary for all of us to be at this very moment of time. For what is happening right now to even be possible the descent was necessary... |
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User ID: 62423055 United States 12/26/2014 06:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sad thread. He loved us so much that he took the weight of everybodys sin, Past, Present and future upon himself who knew NO sin and then was seperated from his father which he had Never experienced to offer us a way of salvation. Pinned! Last Edited by MAGA !!! on 12/26/2014 06:33 PM “Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity.” ~Seneca PS: I Stole this from another member.... ;) |
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User ID: 63852464 United States 12/26/2014 06:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Great thread. I would love to see it again during Easter. Free speech is never free. Well I know it wasn't you who held me down Heaven knows it wasn't you who set me free So often times it happens that we live our lives in chains And we never even know we have the key - Eagles |
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User ID: 63831305 United States 12/26/2014 06:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I always wondered why they would break their legs..now I know. Thank you for this. You accept the love you think you deserve~~~ Love cannot live where there is no trust~~~ Truth has no temperature~~~ Love like it's never gonna hurt~~~ Have no regrets~~~ |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 66132327 United States 12/26/2014 06:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | more than once, if I try to find some place to fast after two days a snake will slither right up to me, just like in the video. black snake that looked just like that one. left no wilderness here to fast in, only way to really repel the death spell. dumb humans doomed themselves out of abject moronitude, what is the fucking point these people are nothing but mouth-anuses, all they care about is eating, stuffing their faces. Most un-spiritual people who have ever lived, truly. |
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User ID: 62423055 United States 12/26/2014 06:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the 'sweat like blood' was semen. Lust demons using full force of death spell. All systems go, the Son hasn't died. You are sick animal for saying that and you know it to be a lie. I would ban your ass for that if I could. Quote from above: the 'sweat like blood' was semen. “Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity.” ~Seneca PS: I Stole this from another member.... ;) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 66132327 United States 12/26/2014 07:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the 'sweat like blood' was semen. Lust demons using full force of death spell. All systems go, the Son hasn't died. You are sick animal for saying that and you know it to be a lie. I would ban your ass for that if I could. Quote from above: the 'sweat like blood' was semen. you didn't read the article did you? didn't think so. let me quote it for you. Gethsemane The physical passion of Christ began in Gethsemane. Of the many aspects of His initial suffering, the one which is of particular physiological interest is the bloody sweat. Interestingly enough, the physician, St. Luke, is the only evangelist to mention this occurrence. He says, "And being in an agony, he prayed the longer. And his sweat became as drops of blood, trickling down upon the ground" (Luke 22:44 KJV). It has always been called The Passion of Christ, the Passion play. How is Christ really taking on all the agony and sin ??? supposedly the strain of orgasm on an animal is so powerful, a healthy young horse can drop dead. What could possibly be more tormenting? What is it that Jesus heals with his stripes, but the evil passions of humans |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 45005050 United Kingdom 12/26/2014 07:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I died, returned, and.can say that I died a naughty bastard who'd do what he wanted to, when he wanted, to an absolute true believer in Jesus, the Creator, and the glory of the after life. Sinner to follower - and all who knew me before don't recognise the person I've become at all. Our Most Blessed Jesus, love you Bro. |
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User ID: 62423055 United States 12/26/2014 07:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the 'sweat like blood' was semen. Lust demons using full force of death spell. All systems go, the Son hasn't died. You are sick animal for saying that and you know it to be a lie. I would ban your ass for that if I could. Quote from above: the 'sweat like blood' was semen. you didn't read the article did you? didn't think so. let me quote it for you. Gethsemane The physical passion of Christ began in Gethsemane. Of the many aspects of His initial suffering, the one which is of particular physiological interest is the bloody sweat. Interestingly enough, the physician, St. Luke, is the only evangelist to mention this occurrence. He says, "And being in an agony, he prayed the longer. And his sweat became as drops of blood, trickling down upon the ground" (Luke 22:44 KJV). It has always been called The Passion of Christ, the Passion play. How is Christ really taking on all the agony and sin ??? supposedly the strain of orgasm on an animal is so powerful, a healthy young horse can drop dead. What could possibly be more tormenting? What is it that Jesus heals with his stripes, but the evil passions of humans Like I said: You are sick animal for saying that and you know it to be a lie. I would ban your ass for that if I could...for a second time. “Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity.” ~Seneca PS: I Stole this from another member.... ;) |