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What Jesus went through from A medical perspective

 
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The physical passion of Christ began in Gethsemane. Of the many aspects of His initial suffering, the one which is of particular physiological interest is the bloody sweat. Interestingly enough, the physician, St. Luke, is the only evangelist to mention this occurrence. He says, "And being in an agony, he prayed the longer. And his sweat became as drops of blood, trickling down upon the ground" (Luke 22:44 KJV).

Every attempt imaginable has been used by modern scholars to explain away the phenomenon of bloody sweat, apparently under the mistaken impression that it simply does not occur. A great deal of effort could be saved by consulting the medical literature. Though very rare, the phenomenon of hematidrosis, or bloody sweat, is well documented. Under great emotional stress, tiny capillaries in the sweat glands can break, thus mixing blood with sweat. This process alone could have produced marked weakness and possible shock.
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In the early morning, battered and bruised, dehydrated, and worn out from a sleepless night, Jesus was taken across Jerusalem to the Praetorium of the Fortress Antonia, the seat of government of the Procurator of Judea, Pontius Pilate. We are familiar with Pilate's action in attempting to shift responsibility to Herod Antipas, the Tetrarch of Judea. Jesus apparently suffered no physical mistreatment at the hands of Herod and was returned to Pilate. It was then, in response to the outcry of the mob, that Pilate ordered Barabbas released and condemned Jesus to scourging and crucifixion.

Preparations for Jesus' scourging were carried out at Caesar's orders. The prisoner was stripped of His clothing and His hands tied to a post above His head. The Roman legionnaire stepped forward with the flagrum, or flagellum, in his hand. This was a short whip consisting of several heavy, leather thongs with two small balls of lead attached near the ends of each. The heavy whip was brought down with full force again and again across Jesus' shoulders, back, and legs. At first the weighted thongs cut through the skin only. Then, as the blows continued, they cut deeper into the subcutaneous tissues, producing first an oozing of blood from the capillaries and veins of the skin and finally spurting arterial bleeding from vessels in the underlying muscles.

The small balls of lead first produced large deep bruises that were broken open by subsequent blows. Finally, the skin of the back was hanging in long ribbons, and the entire area was an unrecognizable mass of torn, bleeding tissue. When it was determined by the centurion in charge that the prisoner was near death, the beating was finally stopped.
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Horrible......
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If the people back then were as dramatic and exaggerated as much as those today then who knows what happened.

One guy saw a shark and told the world there were sea monsters out there.
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As Jesus slowly sagged down with more weight on the nails in the wrists, excruciating, fiery pain shot along the fingers and up the arms to explode in the brain. The nails in the wrists were putting pressure on the median nerve, large nerve trunks which traverse the mid-wrist and hand. As He pushed himself upward to avoid this stretching torment, He placed His full weight on the nail through His feet. Again there was searing agony as the nail tore through the nerves between the metatarsal bones of this feet.

At this point, another phenomenon occurred. As the arms fatigued, great waves of cramps swept over the muscles, knotting them in deep relentless, throbbing pain. With these cramps came the inability to push Himself upward. Hanging by the arm, the pectoral muscles, the large muscles of the chest, were paralyzed and the intercostal muscles, the small muscles between the ribs, were unable to act. Air could be drawn into the lungs, but could not be exhaled. Jesus fought to raise Himself in order to get even one short breath. Finally, the carbon dioxide level increased in the lungs and in the blood stream, and the cramps partially subsided.
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The common method of ending a crucifixion was by crurifracture, the breaking of the bones of the leg. This prevented the victim from pushing himself upward; the tension could not be relieved from the muscles of the chest, and rapid suffocation occurred. The legs of the two thieves were broken, but when the soldiers approached Jesus, they saw that this was unnecessary.

Apparently, to make doubly sure of death, the legionnaire drove his lance between the ribs, upward through the pericardium and into the heart. John 19:34 states, "And immediately there came out blood and water." Thus there was an escape of watery fluid from the sac surrounding the heart and the blood of the interior of the heart. This is rather conclusive post-mortem evidence that Jesus died, not the usual crucifixion death by suffocation, but of heart failure due to shock and constriction of the heart by fluid in the pericardium.
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So basically what you have done is medically prove that what the bible said happened to Jesus really happened....which means the rest of the bible which tells of his life and teachings also happened.
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So, why the Father allow His holy son to suffer like that?

God, indeed, work in mysterious ways.

In the eyes of God, the one who suffer is receiving a gift. Maybe, because suffering is the only way to grow up spiritually.
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Oh Lord Jesus , how much you love us....how much, so sad
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So, why the Father allow His holy son to suffer like that?

God, indeed, work in mysterious ways.

In the eyes of God, the one who suffer is receiving a gift. Maybe, because suffering is the only way to grow up spiritually.
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He suffered every penalty for sin . Even tho he never commited a sin

This was done as a sacrifice for us .

Key scripture to meditate on

5 But he was pierced for our transgressions,
he was crushed for our iniquities;
the punishment that brought us peace was on him,
and by his wounds we are healed.
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So, why the Father allow His holy son to suffer like that?

God, indeed, work in mysterious ways.

In the eyes of God, the one who suffer is receiving a gift. Maybe, because suffering is the only way to grow up spiritually.
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There was a link on here somewhere (this website) that referred to some ancient codex's found in Egypt (I think).

They referred to the descent of Jesus.

Which is the opposite of what is happening now. Which is the ascent.

Ascension and Descension.

Falling from the light into the darkness (descent)

Rising up from the darkness back into the light (ascension)

It is tied to the new world that is about to open up to all of us. The ascent. The descent was necessary for all of us to be at this very moment of time. For what is happening right now to even be possible the descent was necessary...
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He had 1000 years of peace in heaven, after his experience as Jesus Christ of Nazareth on Earth.

The Holy Lord compensated His son after the heavy years of cross.
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This should be pinned
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Sad thread. He loved us so much that he took the weight of everybodys sin, Past, Present and future upon himself who knew NO sin and then was seperated from his father which he had Never experienced to offer us a way of salvation.

Pinned!

Last Edited by MAGA !!! on 12/26/2014 06:33 PM
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Great thread. I would love to see it again during Easter.
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Cool story brah.
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So basically what you have done is medically prove that what the bible said happened to Jesus really happened....which means the rest of the bible which tells of his life and teachings also happened.
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I always wondered why they would break their legs..now I know. Thank you for this.
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the 'sweat like blood' was semen. Lust demons using full force of death spell.

All systems go, the Son hasn't died.
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"When we make mistakes, it's evil. When God makes mistakes, it's nature."
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stupthrd
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more than once, if I try to find some place to fast after two days a snake will slither right up to me, just like in the video. black snake that looked just like that one.

left no wilderness here to fast in, only way to really repel the death spell. dumb humans doomed themselves out of abject moronitude, what is the fucking point these people are nothing but mouth-anuses, all they care about is eating, stuffing their faces. Most un-spiritual people who have ever lived, truly.
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the 'sweat like blood' was semen. Lust demons using full force of death spell.

All systems go, the Son hasn't died.
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You are sick animal for saying that and you know it to be a lie. I would ban your ass for that if I could. Quote from above: the 'sweat like blood' was semen.
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Go to another thread.....leave.
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This movie, Last Tempation of Christ had a really good soundtrack. Peter Gabriel is so good.

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Pretty cool for a dude that never existed.
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the 'sweat like blood' was semen. Lust demons using full force of death spell.

All systems go, the Son hasn't died.
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You are sick animal for saying that and you know it to be a lie. I would ban your ass for that if I could. Quote from above: the 'sweat like blood' was semen.
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you didn't read the article did you? didn't think so.

let me quote it for you.

Gethsemane

The physical passion of Christ began in Gethsemane. Of the many aspects of His initial suffering, the one which is of particular physiological interest is the bloody sweat. Interestingly enough, the physician, St. Luke, is the only evangelist to mention this occurrence. He says, "And being in an agony, he prayed the longer. And his sweat became as drops of blood, trickling down upon the ground" (Luke 22:44 KJV).




It has always been called The Passion of Christ, the Passion play.

How is Christ really taking on all the agony and sin ???

supposedly the strain of orgasm on an animal is so powerful, a healthy young horse can drop dead. What could possibly be more tormenting? What is it that Jesus heals with his stripes, but the evil passions of humans
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I died, returned, and.can say that I died a naughty bastard who'd do what he wanted to, when he wanted, to an absolute true believer in Jesus, the Creator, and the glory of the after life.

Sinner to follower - and all who knew me before don't recognise the person I've become at all.

Our Most Blessed Jesus, love you Bro.
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Someone should imbed this video on YouTube called ( all for love Hillsong ) it's a video of Christ's sufferings plus a awesome song that brings tear to your eye . God bless whoever imbeds it, and God bless you who pinned this
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the 'sweat like blood' was semen. Lust demons using full force of death spell.

All systems go, the Son hasn't died.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66132327



You are sick animal for saying that and you know it to be a lie. I would ban your ass for that if I could. Quote from above: the 'sweat like blood' was semen.
 Quoting: AdHocBOHICA


you didn't read the article did you? didn't think so.

let me quote it for you.

Gethsemane

The physical passion of Christ began in Gethsemane. Of the many aspects of His initial suffering, the one which is of particular physiological interest is the bloody sweat. Interestingly enough, the physician, St. Luke, is the only evangelist to mention this occurrence. He says, "And being in an agony, he prayed the longer. And his sweat became as drops of blood, trickling down upon the ground" (Luke 22:44 KJV).




It has always been called The Passion of Christ, the Passion play.

How is Christ really taking on all the agony and sin ???

supposedly the strain of orgasm on an animal is so powerful, a healthy young horse can drop dead. What could possibly be more tormenting? What is it that Jesus heals with his stripes, but the evil passions of humans
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66132327


Like I said:

You are sick animal for saying that and you know it to be a lie. I would ban your ass for that if I could...for a second time.
“Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity.” ~Seneca

PS:
I Stole this from another member.... ;)





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